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Ok, I have the Evo completely rooted.
I want to be able to back up my applications, settings for those applications, as well as standard settings on my phone.
Titanium Backup - I can backup apps, however system info seems to break / cause force closes among different roms. It is hard to tell what is important and what isn't. I want settings such as default ringtone / configured desktop widgets and folders / wifi settings / lock pattern etc. to be backed up and restored easily.
Nandroid - Nandroid backups are almost perfect, except that they don't work w/ different roms. I want it to do exactly what it does.. copy everything as is.. but while retaining the functionality of the rom I choose. I get that this is not what it is supposed to do, I'm just giving it as an example as to what I would like in a back up app.
So basically, I want to be able to easily switch between roms (I use Avalaunch Froyo most of the time, 2.1 for photos/recording etc, and will probably use new Froyo builds coming soon) and maintain all the OS settings and App settings. So far I haven't been able to find what I need. Can someone point me in the right direction?
ive always has this question as well...
I am not sure how often you switch between ROM's, but I switch every other day or so. When I switch I make a NANDROID before hand then when I get to the new ROM I delete the old one off the SD card. I know that isnt an answer to you question. It is just what I do and it works for me. If there is a program that would back up all of it would be amazing.
Titanium backup. Available in the android market. Only works on rooted phones.
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Titanium backup. Available in the android market. Only works on rooted phones.
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Not to sound like a douche, but I'm fairly certain you didn't even read the post.
Check out my sig. All your answers should be in my guide. If you have any questions or think it's missing something feel free to leave a comment in that thread.
I checked it out, and it just isn't specific enough. It is good though.
As a previous poster said, I change my rom every few days and do Nandroid backups.. but with the new froyo source released, I'm sure a flood of good roms will come out, and while I try them out, I don't want to have to configure my basic settings each time, such as where I like my widgets, enabling swype keyboard, or disabling default SMS and setting all the options in handcent, etc.
Trust me, it takes over an hour each time. As more cool apps come out, it'll take more time to configure. Also, since Sprint is awesome and lets you upgrade every year now by being a premier customer, I plan on sticking w/ android and want to be able to have a smooth transition when I get my next phone.
Titanium Backup seems like it can get the job done, and maybe I just need a specific listing of which system data file is for what. I tried to copy just the things that seemed necessary, and I still got force closes on things such as trying to open my sound settings.
Most of the system items highlighted in Green in Titanium are of important settings/databases. Also, I can confirm that if you back up the "[DESKTOP]HTC Sense 1.00" entry, then your sense Desktop (meaning icon locations and widget placements) will be restored to where you had them.
If you are not running Sense though, and instead using a custom launcher like ADW, helix, launcher pro, etc...Then I can only guess that if you back up those using the App+Data option that it will also remember icon/widget placements, but that is only an assumption. I have limited experience with those launchers.
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I checked it out, and it just isn't specific enough. It is good though.
As a previous poster said, I change my rom every few days and do Nandroid backups.. but with the new froyo source released, I'm sure a flood of good roms will come out, and while I try them out, I don't want to have to configure my basic settings each time, such as where I like my widgets, enabling swype keyboard, or disabling default SMS and setting all the options in handcent, etc.
Trust me, it takes over an hour each time. As more cool apps come out, it'll take more time to configure. Also, since Sprint is awesome and lets you upgrade every year now by being a premier customer, I plan on sticking w/ android and want to be able to have a smooth transition when I get my next phone.
Titanium Backup seems like it can get the job done, and maybe I just need a specific listing of which system data file is for what. I tried to copy just the things that seemed necessary, and I still got force closes on things such as trying to open my sound settings.
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If you are going to be going back and forth between Froyo and Sense 2.1, don't bother trying to back up your account/widget/home configuration. It's different between the two and could mess things up. Also, many people put out roms that are zipaligned or deodexed, you might not want to restore stock apps on top of those.
I'd recommend doing two things.
1. Use a nandroid backup to save a "snapshot" of your current rom so that you can easily go back to it (with all of your settings intact).
2. Use Titanium Backup to just get your user apps and information when you want to move to a new rom. Setting things back up can take a little time, but it's better than wondering why you're getting force-closes or wakelock problems. This will keep all of your user app settings (like Handcent or Swype) but you will just need to enable them in your settings menu.
UPDATE - deleted old post...
So I just finished Rooting my phone and putting a new rom.
I used the following root guide:
[TUTORIAL] EVO Full Root|OTA Root|Nand Backup/Restore|Flashing|for n00b's + videos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721055
Now I realized all my phone contacts are gone....
I wished he had put a disclaimer about that.
and what sucks is, I dont have a backup to those contact # either so im screwed.
Anyways my question is: Once I have all my contacts and I wish to change ROM.
Will I lose all my datas?
If I download a game app - IE - Tower Defense - will it keep game saved, unlocked maps, etc etc?
if it doesn't, how do I transfer contacts, game saved to the next Rom when I wipe (I assume wipe = format which it deletes everything).
I already forsee im gonna test all the roms out there but I HATE to re-put all my contacts over and over again...
im already mad I lost half of my contacts I wont be able to retreive.
with that said - I guess I have few more question than.
WHAT IS Nand Backup? what does it do?
What is Titanium Backup? what does it do?
Do I need 1 or both?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
In the op there is a link to google docs spread sheet that compares the most popular roms comparing there performance, battery life, extra features, what features it has working, ect.
nief1313 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
In the op there is a link to google docs spread sheet that compares the most popular roms comparing there performance, battery life, extra features, what features it has working, ect.
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Thanks for the link but it doesnt answer some of my other questions.
what kind of pre-loaded apps comes with each one?
you will have to individually check out their threads to find out what they have included/excluded, but for most of the ROMs, they generally include all the stock stuff(sometimes removed sprint apps or an easy way of removing them) and a few include an app for rom specific updates/changing profiles. besides that most of them dont preinstall any extra apps.
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you will have to individually check out their threads to find out what they have included/excluded, but for most of the ROMs, they generally include all the stock stuff(sometimes removed sprint apps or an easy way of removing them) and a few include an app for rom specific updates/changing profiles. besides that most of them dont preinstall any extra apps.
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This man speaks the truff.
Most roms are pretty identical, just check them out and view which one you would like the most.
I suggest making a nandroid backup of what you have now and then installing different roms and testing them out. Find the one thats fits you and stick with it.
Evio is my current rom, it seems to be the only one where the cache is on the /cache partition instead of the data partition, and everything is working, he adds a few apps but you can wipe it to get the full 427MB for apps. also u can uninstall any sprint apps you dont want with titanium backup.
BTW good luck on the 60 fps, expect 50-55fps.
Use the evo kitchen. Search for it. Lets you make one to your liking.
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UPDATE - check first post for my new issues. Thanks to the previous posts answering my other concerns.
for starters save all contacts to gmail that will help you to avoid having to re-enter your contacts everytime, when you link your gmail to your phone it will pull your contact. since u already lost em id recommend going to gmail now and adding them manually, had my mom do this in the begining when she 1st got her moment, and i found out after the fact on my hero.
Nandroid is a full back up of your phones current state (rom wise). so when you have one set up the way you like it make a nandroid so when you decide to jump to another rom or you flash a soemthing you dont like you can revert back to your previous state. its like system restore for windows but 20x better.
Titanium backup lets you back up apps uninstall apps etc etc, it does alot, too much for me to explain, i say check out their site. also titanium back up is the one you would need if u wanted to back up apps and restore them on another rom.
Titanium back up was how i was able to keep my free copy of lets golf xD
I'm hating it with a passion and I don't know if its something that I may be missing. I purchased the full version and use it to ''Backup Apps + Data'' since I know that backing up system data screws up your phone.
Everytime I switch ROMs I run ''restore apps + data'' and upon completion I run into a ton of force closes and terrible lag issues. I also notice that the lag happens when I'm browsing on 4g. (the force closes happen all the time with almost all the apps)
I end up downloading all my apps all over again and losing my achievements and progress in games. I beat Angry Birds in like 2 days and now I have to do it again.
By the way I always download the busybox in the problems link in titanium backup. I always wipe dalvik and factory reset in between ROMs.
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I only get problems when I restore system apps, If I just restore user apps there is no problem. dont restore system data, it will overwrite the good new stuff in the new rom you just flashed and frankenstein it into both the old and the new, hence yhe fc's
sounds like you're restoring something you shouldn't. Don't just do a batch restore, make sure that you're only restoring the apps you want.
Different roms work with different version of wireless tether, spare parts, etc. Just as ZJ mentioned, you restore something that a new rom changed and it could cause problems.
Also, be careful switching between Sense and AOSP Roms, even with just user apps. People have had problems with that. But going from AOSP rom to AOSP rom, I've never had a problem. (I have the paid version, and I switch back and forth constantly.)
I wouldn't say that I've lost faith in TB, but I have never really been a big fan of it. The only things I b/u with TB is Angry Birds, and bookmarks. Everything else I b/u to Astro, or just re-d/l from the market. I try to do a clean install from the market whenever switching ROMS to avoid any data issues.
I use it every time I do a rom to restore all my apps and certain system data. The green things are typically OK to restore to any LIKE rom (sense or ASOP)
Restore like sms messages, bluetooth, wireless, etc.
Don't restore the red stuff.
Ok I will try some of those suggestions.
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GQ- I feel your pain. I only just recently started flashing roms and I experienced the exact problem you described.
I went from stock to CM6.1 At first it was nice and fast. After I did the batch Titanium restore it started to get really laggy!
Like someone suggested don't restore important system related stuff (such as system settings) I actually ended up using MyBackUp Pro because it seemed to restore with less stability issues.
Another good idea IMO is to d/l a screen saver app. You can find them in the market. Take a pic of each of your home screens so that you can copy them exactly when you flash your new ROM. Just a lil something I personally do...
Does titanium not work well with an Apps2Sd?
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GQ- I feel your pain. I only just recently started flashing roms and I experienced the exact problem you described.
I went from stock to CM6.1 At first it was nice and fast. After I did the batch Titanium restore it started to get really laggy!
Like someone suggested don't restore important system related stuff (such as system settings) I actually ended up using MyBackUp Pro because it seemed to restore with less stability issues.
Another good idea IMO is to d/l a screen saver app. You can find them in the market. Take a pic of each of your home screens so that you can copy them exactly when you flash your new ROM. Just a lil something I personally do...
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I'm very anal about my home screen and have it set up the same way regardless of what ROM I use. It's easy for me to remember because I prefer using 3 screens. I just notice lag when scrolling through my apps or random force closes on apps I use often. Like you mentioned before I only do a batch backup of installed apps and then I restore apps + data only (not system data).
The mistake I was probably making was having the restore overwrite the newer/existing versions of the same app that came with the ROM I just flashed.
I have noticed when I do a titanium full batch app & all data restore my emails will not auto sync. I have to open and refresh to get it to work.
So I've been using mikfroyo for a bit now, then I wanted to try and switch to CyanogenMod 6.6.1(i think?)
Regardless, I did all the main steps...backing up all the apps...nandroid backup...wipe of everything...install ROM however a few issues arose that I wanted to address when I flashed Cyanogen..these issues all caused me to restore my mikfroyo..
1. When I try and restore all my apps and data with Titanium, it asks me to install EACH AND EVERY app that I ever downloaded before. Is there a way I can just auto accept them all? Am I pressing the right buttons for backing up and restoring? I usually run the batch operation "Backup all user apps + system data" and when restoring I always select "Restore all apps with data"
2. I could not post my original wallpaper that I had from mikfroyo, it would either use a random cyanogen themed wallpaper, or the screen would just go blank
3. All my saved game data was officially gone. Honestly this was the biggest issue, playing a game where you level up for months just to see it all go to waste is just demoralizing.
If anyone has the answers to these issues I'd be very grateful. I'd really like to explore beyond the world of MikFroYo!
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R1pTheJacka said:
So I've been using mikfroyo for a bit now, then I wanted to try and switch to CyanogenMod 6.6.1(i think?)
Regardless, I did all the main steps...backing up all the apps...nandroid backup...wipe of everything...install ROM however a few issues arose that I wanted to address when I flashed Cyanogen..these issues all caused me to restore my mikfroyo..
1. When I try and restore all my apps and data with Titanium, it asks me to install EACH AND EVERY app that I ever downloaded before. Is there a way I can just auto accept them all? Am I pressing the right buttons for backing up and restoring? I usually run the batch operation "Backup all user apps + system data" and when restoring I always select "Restore all apps with data"
2. I could not post my original wallpaper that I had from mikfroyo, it would either use a random cyanogen themed wallpaper, or the screen would just go blank
3. All my saved game data was officially gone. Honestly this was the biggest issue, playing a game where you level up for months just to see it all go to waste is just demoralizing.
If anyone has the answers to these issues I'd be very grateful. I'd really like to explore beyond the world of MikFroYo!
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1) Sadly no
2) I don't understand this question?
3) If you saved with Titanium this shouldn't be an issue
1) there is a way to not have to install all apps automatically but you have to purchase the paid app of titanium backup.
2) which wallpaper are you trying to use??? I also don't understand this question.
3) with titanium backup it saves the data for the apps you backup. Bit you need to make sure that you choose the correct batch to backup.
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1) that is a limitation of the free version sadly. Titanium is one of the few apps I can honestly say was worth paying for & now it's actually on the market unlike the way I had to buy it
2) all old wallpapers will be gone from that directory sorry :/
3) you just wiped EVERYTHING! However, with titanium you'll be able to restore game data hopefully
sorry for being undescriptive about number 2, but what i mean is that when i used mikfroyo i just had a wallpaper of a hot girl, and when i switched to CMod it automatically set the wallpaper as soemthing from CMod of course, but when i tried to set it back to ANYTHING else of mine the wallpaper would either switch to another CMod wallpaper, or the wallpaper would just be black
also i hear a lot about mybackup as an alternative, can anyone confirm that my issues wont occur using this app as opposed to titanium? (saved data/installing each and every app one by one)
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sorry for being undescriptive about number 2, but what i mean is that when i used mikfroyo i just had a wallpaper of a hot girl, and when i switched to CMod it automatically set the wallpaper as soemthing from CMod of course, but when i tried to set it back to ANYTHING else of mine the wallpaper would either switch to another CMod wallpaper, or the wallpaper would just be black
also i hear a lot about mybackup as an alternative, can anyone confirm that my issues wont occur using this app as opposed to titanium? (saved data/installing each and every app one by one)
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I used MyBackup Root and it was pretty seamless to me. I've never used titanium so I don't know how to compare it. MyBackup Root does APK's and their data though, and it's all automatic
Faux or Bullet included with Juggs 4.1? If you have a preference, tell please me why...
I switched over from bullet after running it a week to fauxs and i must say battery and speed of phone went up so far im diggin it apps open faster and reboot is cut in half if anything
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You really should try both out for a few days and find out yourself. There are not too many options out at the moment so trying things out to get a feel for them is best. Also, go and read what has been done to the kernal and read their threads. I understand that you want to get the best of the best right now, but understanding what you're doing to your phone and the differences between the kernals / roms is one of the things XDA is about.
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I switched over from bullet after running it a week to fauxs and i must say battery and speed of phone went up so far im diggin it apps open faster and reboot is cut in half if anything
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Hi Funziebear, Which Faux kernal are you using? Also which modem? Did you lose or gain any functionality between the two kernels?
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You really should try both out for a few days and find out yourself. There are not too many options out at the moment so trying things out to get a feel for them is best. Also, go and read what has been done to the kernal and read their threads. I understand that you want to get the best of the best right now, but understanding what you're doing to your phone and the differences between the kernals / roms is one of the things XDA is about.
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Hi Tri4life, thanks for the reply. I've been reading/researching for months before posting. I have only tried Juggs with the Bullet kernel though because to be quite honest, in my line of work and with all the things I have going on, flashing constantly and having my phone off/on is just not something I can do... I'd love to have an extra GS2 to experiment with, but unfortunately I can't flash and test drive a lot, I need my phone up and running as much as possible being a SQL/Oracle DBA on call basically 24/7 for a major group of hospitals.
If I can figure out a way to quickly restore my apps and settings after a ROM or kernel flash, then maybe I can do this more often, but from what I'm reading folks are saying that's hit or miss, so I've been mostly doing all my app installs and customization from scratch after a flash to a new ROM.. which takes me hours to do..
So basically I'm looking to go with some of the common successful configurations users have had luck with on here.
Faux for me! So smooth and getting 1d battery on it. Bullet doesnt come close i was getting 10 hours on that thing!
Rekzer said:
Faux for me! So smooth and getting 1d battery on it. Bullet doesnt come close i was getting 10 hours on that thing!
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Thanks for the reply Rekzer! Which Faux kernal are you using? Also which modem? Did you lose or gain any functionality between the two kernels?
FSUSeminole said:
Hi Tri4life, thanks for the reply. I've been reading/researching for months before posting. I have only tried Juggs with the Bullet kernel though because to be quite honest, in my line of work and with all the things I have going on, flashing constantly and having my phone off/on is just not something I can do... I'd love to have an extra GS2 to experiment with, but unfortunately I can't flash and test drive a lot, I need my phone up and running as much as possible being a SQL/Oracle DBA on call basically 24/7 for a major group of hospitals.
If I can figure out a way to quickly restore my apps and settings after a ROM or kernel flash, then maybe I can do this more often, but from what I'm reading folks are saying that's hit or miss, so I've been mostly doing all my app installs and customization from scratch after a flash to a new ROM.. which takes me hours to do..
So basically I'm looking to go with some of the common successful configurations users have had luck with on here.
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Maybe something that might help. I use Titanium backup Pro and Adw Launcher EX. I spent a lot of time gettings things right on ADW and now that I have it I backup its settings. ( this is also placement of items on homescreen ). I then use Titanium to back that up as well as all my other user apps + data. Everything is stored on my sd card. If I plan on formatting I just move my titanium backup folder to a desktop. Then format, mount, and re add to the sd. I have a folder with a few .apks to install first without adding an account. For example the titanium backup. So essentially, everytime I try out a new rom I just install titanium, have it restore my apps and their data. Then I add my account. I will clean this post up later, but it really makes things nice and allows me to install new roms in under 10 mins and keep all my previous settings.
Which of the fauxs out used..I see 2.
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Maybe something that might help. I use Titanium backup Pro and Adw Launcher EX. I spent a lot of time gettings things right on ADW and now that I have it I backup its settings. ( this is also placement of items on homescreen ). I then use Titanium to back that up as well as all my other user apps + data. Everything is stored on my sd card. If I plan on formatting I just move my titanium backup folder to a desktop. Then format, mount, and re add to the sd. I have a folder with a few .apks to install first without adding an account. For example the titanium backup. So essentially, everytime I try out a new rom I just install titanium, have it restore my apps and their data. Then I add my account. I will clean this post up later, but it really makes things nice and allows me to install new roms in under 10 mins and keep all my previous settings.
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Yes, that is extremely helpful (especially the part about having the TBU.apk ready to install TBU without adding your account and going through the market) I actually paid for Titanium Backup Pro, so I have the full version and should be able to do this.... I've just heard folks saying that this doesn't always work...
As for launchers, I used to use LauncherPro, now I'm trying Go Launcher EX... mostly because I saw folks saying good things about it, it looks like it has more options (especially for theme-ing) and it has also been updated more recently than LauncherPro. I've never tried ADW Launcher Ex... Why do you prefer it over LauncherPro and Go Launcher?
Im using the 006r and havent had an issue it runs quick and smooth and battery is so far better than bullets , i use my phone a lot so better battery is a must the way apps open so fast on this is just a plus for me
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Yes, that is extremely helpful (especially the part about having the TBU.apk ready to install TBU without adding your account and going through the market) I actually paid for Titanium Backup Pro, so I have the full version and should be able to do this.... I've just heard folks saying that this doesn't always work...
As for launchers, I used to use LauncherPro, now I'm trying Go Launcher EX... mostly because I saw folks saying good things about it, it looks like it has more options (especially for theme-ing) and it has also been updated more recently than LauncherPro. I've never tried ADW Launcher Ex... Why do you prefer it over LauncherPro and Go Launcher?
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Regarding the launcher, its all about simplicity for me. Adw is just as quick and go launcher ( in my opinion ). Also everything I needed adw takes care of. For the most part I would say they are equal competitors, but I just don't need all the extra options or features that Go Launcher provides. But yes I used Go Launcher Ex and even recommend it to my friends. Keep in mind you can do the same backup with it and restore just like ADW. Oh, but one difference I believe is that Go Launcher stores the backups in a separate file and folder as its app. So using titanium wont back that up. It will just stay on your sd card or internal. Doing the normal wipes to install a new ROM wont remove it, but of course a format will. Just a heads up, and also I haven't used Go Launcher in over a month so they probably pushed out a lot of updates and changed that feature.
About Titanium backup. You will have to have both the TBU.apk and the TBUpro.apk to install. The pro key is installed after, else you will have to wipe TB's cache from application settings. Also, if the ROM does not come with a file manager app on it by default then you will have to push with adb the .apks over. Also I think you can just copy/paste them into the app folder as well.
edit- again, I can give you my exact steps when I get home tonight. Just typing quite fast here at work.
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Thanks for the reply Rekzer! Which Faux kernal are you using? Also which modem? Did you lose or gain any functionality between the two kernels?
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Im using 0.0.7, its the one that comes with the rom Dewizzed. I think from 0.0.6 to 7 it just changes from a tmobile boot image to a custom one. I tried 0.0.6u with Beastmod, and it boot looped, im not sure if it had issues with beastmod or what, and ended up using DeWizzed as my rom after that instead which i think is 0.0.7r.
Im using the original modem, as im a Telus user(no wifi calling here).
I believe both kernels have most of the same features, Bullet may have more governors IIRC.
I just did a battery calibration starting yesterday actually and im at 20% after 1 day 14 hours. Not heavy usage, but i find while i use was using it there wasnt much drain.
And as i said, its SO smooth.
"I have a folder with a few .apks to install first without adding an account. For example the titanium backup. So essentially, everytime I try out a new rom I just install titanium" ... Great idea.
I'm saving Titanium Backup (com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup-1) and ROM Manager (com.koushikdutta.rommanager-1) in a folder so that I can reinstall them quick without having to log in and grab them from the Google Market. Good thinkin'
u should flash around and see whats good for you...everyone's phone is different
ugotproblemz said:
u should flash around and see whats good for you...everyone's phone is different
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What he said. Each device is different. There is no best just best for you.
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