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Google Backup? Wow...

So I enabled this on CM6 not too long ago, I recently wiped and updated to the latest version of it, and low and behold all my applications started getting installed from the Market on their own... How does this work, and is my data going to be there as well?

I do not believe it restores data
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It only restore the Market-downloadable applications. Your data (unless on an SD card) will not be restored.

Yea, no data was restored... kinda crappy... oh well, better than nothing.

fldash said:
Yea, no data was restored... kinda crappy... oh well, better than nothing.
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TI Backup is much better and much more versatile. Worth the money.

You just sparked my interest. What are you talking about? I've googled it but haven't found anything yet. Searched in market too.

herbthehammer said:
You just sparked my interest. What are you talking about? I've googled it but haven't found anything yet. Searched in market too.
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Titanium Backup:
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
HOWEVER, must have root.
MUST.
Your adventure may just be beginning.

What Google Backup are you talking about?

Oh. If that's what you're talking about then I'll pass.

Google backup restores wifi profiles too.
But I love titanium and did purchase the full version.
Swyped on my EVO

I use Titanium Backup because it backs up my settings, apps, data, preferences, WiFi networks, Bluetooth pairings, Cyanogenmod Settings, etc.
Really, all I do after a wipe is to skip to the home screen, open market, add my Google Account, download Titanium Backup, and go to Menu>Batch>Restore everything

It's a Google backup feature...enabled in cm roms only...it's actually quite nice if you are flashing roms everyday
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Is there anyway to get rid of the backup feature, it's pretty pointless without data and I'd rather restore my apps with Titanium...
I just wiped and reflashed and when it asked if I wanted to use Google backup, I unchecked the box, but it started downloading everything anyway...
Nevermind, I found it...

So as far as I understand it, this is part of the ASOP. So way did htc/sprint take it out?
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Any body able to get an apk, to enable this on non cm roms?

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Oh. If that's what you're talking about then I'll pass.
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Titanium is awesome and worth every penny for the paid version if you switch roms frequently. If you don't mind a little extra button mashing the free version works well.
It saves data and the version of the app your backing up. Which is really useful if you don't want the updated version of any particular app.

Titanium Backup. Has anyone lost faith in it?

I'm hating it with a passion and I don't know if its something that I may be missing. I purchased the full version and use it to ''Backup Apps + Data'' since I know that backing up system data screws up your phone.
Everytime I switch ROMs I run ''restore apps + data'' and upon completion I run into a ton of force closes and terrible lag issues. I also notice that the lag happens when I'm browsing on 4g. (the force closes happen all the time with almost all the apps)
I end up downloading all my apps all over again and losing my achievements and progress in games. I beat Angry Birds in like 2 days and now I have to do it again.
By the way I always download the busybox in the problems link in titanium backup. I always wipe dalvik and factory reset in between ROMs.
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I only get problems when I restore system apps, If I just restore user apps there is no problem. dont restore system data, it will overwrite the good new stuff in the new rom you just flashed and frankenstein it into both the old and the new, hence yhe fc's

sounds like you're restoring something you shouldn't. Don't just do a batch restore, make sure that you're only restoring the apps you want.
Different roms work with different version of wireless tether, spare parts, etc. Just as ZJ mentioned, you restore something that a new rom changed and it could cause problems.

Also, be careful switching between Sense and AOSP Roms, even with just user apps. People have had problems with that. But going from AOSP rom to AOSP rom, I've never had a problem. (I have the paid version, and I switch back and forth constantly.)

I wouldn't say that I've lost faith in TB, but I have never really been a big fan of it. The only things I b/u with TB is Angry Birds, and bookmarks. Everything else I b/u to Astro, or just re-d/l from the market. I try to do a clean install from the market whenever switching ROMS to avoid any data issues.

I use it every time I do a rom to restore all my apps and certain system data. The green things are typically OK to restore to any LIKE rom (sense or ASOP)
Restore like sms messages, bluetooth, wireless, etc.
Don't restore the red stuff.

Ok I will try some of those suggestions.
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GQ- I feel your pain. I only just recently started flashing roms and I experienced the exact problem you described.
I went from stock to CM6.1 At first it was nice and fast. After I did the batch Titanium restore it started to get really laggy!
Like someone suggested don't restore important system related stuff (such as system settings) I actually ended up using MyBackUp Pro because it seemed to restore with less stability issues.
Another good idea IMO is to d/l a screen saver app. You can find them in the market. Take a pic of each of your home screens so that you can copy them exactly when you flash your new ROM. Just a lil something I personally do...

Does titanium not work well with an Apps2Sd?

SantinoInc said:
GQ- I feel your pain. I only just recently started flashing roms and I experienced the exact problem you described.
I went from stock to CM6.1 At first it was nice and fast. After I did the batch Titanium restore it started to get really laggy!
Like someone suggested don't restore important system related stuff (such as system settings) I actually ended up using MyBackUp Pro because it seemed to restore with less stability issues.
Another good idea IMO is to d/l a screen saver app. You can find them in the market. Take a pic of each of your home screens so that you can copy them exactly when you flash your new ROM. Just a lil something I personally do...
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I'm very anal about my home screen and have it set up the same way regardless of what ROM I use. It's easy for me to remember because I prefer using 3 screens. I just notice lag when scrolling through my apps or random force closes on apps I use often. Like you mentioned before I only do a batch backup of installed apps and then I restore apps + data only (not system data).
The mistake I was probably making was having the restore overwrite the newer/existing versions of the same app that came with the ROM I just flashed.

I have noticed when I do a titanium full batch app & all data restore my emails will not auto sync. I have to open and refresh to get it to work.

[Q] Major lag from touch screen suddenly

Hello.
I have posted this in the forums at Android Central and only got one response. I've had my phone since Feb of this year. Since 11/2 there is major lag. No issues on 11/1. Taps on the home screen are continuously being read as long presses. My lock screen is really laggy, as are home screens and most apps. Bad piggies for whatever reason is working just fine. Most other apps including the keyboard are very laggy. It just seems to be very slow to respond to touch all of a sudden. My phone is rooted stock GB. At AC, I was told an app was hogging RAM. I downloaded Memory Useage from the google play store but it doesn't seem to make a difference. I'm still getting that lady after killing and uninstalling apps. The lag is still there with the native launcher so I really don't think it has anything to do with GO Launcher. I used TiB to revert GOL back to the previous version. I also uninstalled GOLocker as well. I've done a soft reset but it didn't help.
Is there a way to see my Play update history so I can see which apps installed that night? I've always had the occasional lag but it wasn't ever really a big deal. This is greatly interfering with my use of the phone. I am lucky to type a word before the keyboard disappears. Low resources makes sense but I just can't figure out what app is hogging them.
Any help is greatly appreciated. I'm thinking of resting back to unrooted GB to upgrade to stock ICS.

The first app in the my apps list is the most recent one. So start uninstalling from the top.. Now if you had installed an app say 2 months ago, uninstalled it a month ago and then reinstalled it today then it won't show at the top of the list. It will be still at that same spot where it was 2 months ago. So keep in mind if you reinstalled some app.
Also you should uninstall apps from applications in settings so you can clear cache and data for that app. Or you restart after each uninstall.
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BluesRulez said:
The first app in the my apps list is the most recent one. So start uninstalling from the top.. Now if you had installed an app say 2 months ago, uninstalled it a month ago and then reinstalled it today then it won't show at the top of the list. It will be still at that same spot where it was 2 months ago. So keep in mind if you reinstalled some app.
Also you should uninstall apps from applications in settings so you can clear cache and data for that app. Or you restart after each uninstall.
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Thanks but my only options are Sort by Size and Sort Alphabetically. Are you talking about the applications list in Settings? Or is there a better place to uninstall? I know I can go into TiB as well.

cajunlibra said:
Thanks but my only options are Sort by Size and Sort Alphabetically. Are you talking about the applications list in Settings? Or is there a better place to uninstall? I know I can go into TiB as well.
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My apps list is in the play store..
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BluesRulez said:
My apps list is in the play store..
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Thanks. **Slaps forehead**

cajunlibra said:
Thanks. **Slaps forehead**
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This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.

cajunlibra said:
This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.
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Yeah
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cajunlibra said:
This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.
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Now I have removed all apps updated on 11/2 or overnight from the evening of 11/1. The only one I can't touch is Kies. I have frozen it with TiB but I'm still getting the super heavy lag. What can I do next? Do I need to just reset the whole device now and start from scratch?
This is really frustrating. I love my phone and haven't had it long enough to switch to something else. Are there any tests that I can perform to check on the screen itself?
I have also installed OS Monitor and the top apps using up the CPU are OS Monitor, SYstem, Google Play Movies & TV, Android System, gzip. THe % used varies from 0% up to 26% they may last only a second or two. Is there something wrong with my phone? I feel like I've exhausted finding a resource hog.

If you have a custom recovery installed then do a nandroid backup and flash a fresh install of something to test it. If its not broke in the test then you can restore tour backup and continue to troubleshoot. Honestly though its easy enough to just start fresh. I do it every few days/weeks on a new rom.
Heck at this point flash something ICS or even JB. I can't think of a reason to ever use a GB rom again.

someguyatx said:
If you have a custom recovery installed then do a nandroid backup and flash a fresh install of something to test it. If its not broke in the test then you can restore tour backup and continue to troubleshoot. Honestly though its easy enough to just start fresh. I do it every few days/weeks on a new rom.
Heck at this point flash something ICS or even JB. I can't think of a reason to ever use a GB rom again.
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Do you have a JB recommendation? I haven't created a nandroid backup because the only one I am aware of with with CWM and I have been told more than once that it isn't reliable on the E4GT so I just completed removed it from my phone. Are there any other methods for getting a nandroid backup?

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Do you have a JB recommendation? I haven't created a nandroid backup because the only one I am aware of with with CWM and I have been told more than once that it isn't reliable on the E4GT so I just completed removed it from my phone. Are there any other methods for getting a nandroid backup?
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Paranoid android 2.50. You can make a nandroid backup from el26 kernel with cwm of an pics rom.
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I'm currently using codename, great rom. I've only used my nandroid backups several times but they do work. Always just made my backup in whatever custom recovery I was using at the time. Can't remember what recovery I used on GB. Its been a while. Edit just use the el26 blues mentioned above
When switching between ROMs or experimenting I use SMS backup and restore and call log backup and restore from market. Its nice to have those old texts and call logs sometimes.

I use SMS Backup cuz I want to save my texts but I don't know if I need to save my call log.
Thanks for the recommendation. Paranoid Android looks pretty cool.
My external SD card is safe right? Does it need to be backed up as well?

cajunlibra said:
I use SMS Backup cuz I want to save my texts but I don't know if I need to save my call log.
Thanks for the recommendation. Paranoid Android looks pretty cool.
My external SD card is safe right? Does it need to be backed up as well?
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External SD never gets wiped during a rom flash. Even internal sd card doesn't.

What's your opinion on Triangle away? Is it safe to use on my e4gt? Just in case this doesn't work, I'll need to reset my count.
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cajunlibra said:
What's your opinion on Triangle away? Is it safe to use on my e4gt? Just in case this doesn't work, I'll need to reset my count.
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I have used once when I flashed jb tar and it worked. I prefer mobile Odin over desktop Odin to flash. Mobile Odin means no triangle.
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I use triangle away all the time, I never use mobile Odin. I think its more risky, not sure why, its all in my head

Thanks. One more question and hopefully we're done here.
I noticed that on the paranoid Android site, they no longer have OTAs. How do you get updates? Do you have to flash each time?
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Do any of you find it odd that bad piggies seems to be immune to this lag issue? I played it on my to work this morning. Other apps get bogged down. Thank you all for your help and advice.
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Custom roms typically require manual updates. Very few update automatically and i have never tried paranoid.
I'm not even sure what bad piggies is.

[Q] Backing Up N7 2

Hi All. First time poster. I've been an iOS guy since the 3GS, but over the last 6 months or so started to look at moving away from Apple due to their price structure. After picking up a N7 2 for a fraction of the cost of an rMini, I couldn't be happier and might never go back to Apple. I'm still getting use to the differences between the ecosystems and the differences in how things worked. It's amazing how many things are different.
The one nice thing I liked about Apple/iTunes/iOS was the way you could backup a device and when you restored it even GUI preferences were restored. So if you had a News folder all your news apps were in the folder in the same location on the screen.
I've done some searching, and I know there are some third party apps that do local backups but I haven't been able to find if there is anything, including the stock Google backup, that will do a backup to include system settings to the same level of detail as iTunes did. Can someone point me in the right directions? Does Titanium Backup do this? What all does the stock backup program backup? When you restore an Android device is it smart enough to redownload all the apps that were on the device? Is there a part of this question that I'm missing?

System settings don't get restored for the most part. This is due to it causing problems (especially when flashing ROMs). Homescreens can be saved if you use a third party launcher such as nova or apex. Titanium can backup system apps like settings and restore it, but that can cause major issues, so just avoid it. Stock backup can backup apps, photos, pretty much just core things. When restoring, there's an option to allow the device to restore all your apps.

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System settings don't get restored for the most part. This is due to it causing problems (especially when flashing ROMs). Homescreens can be saved if you use a third party launcher such as nova or apex. Titanium can backup system apps like settings and restore it, but that can cause major issues, so just avoid it. Stock backup can backup apps, photos, pretty much just core things. When restoring, there's an option to allow the device to restore all your apps.
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So what I'm hearing is that if you want to make sure that you get a good restore it's best to always start from scratch.

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So what I'm hearing is that if you want to make sure that you get a good restore it's best to always start from scratch.
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Not always. The restoring of apps is usually only an issue with restoring data of ones that were used on ICS and then you flashed a jb ROM. I've always restored app and data with titanium and never had an issue. Just don't do that with system apk's.
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Titanium Backup alternatives?

Ok I flashed a stock ruu.zip and restored full stock firmware
I have never seen this phone so smooth and fast
but...as I restored my apps with titanium backup everything was just as always.....scrolling doesn't feel 60fps, and I have a trained eye (play at 75hz on pc)
I always had this feeling of titanium f+k!ng up the rom, but this time is too obvious.
so, is there any alternative app for just user app backup/restore? something decent, updated and that just works
I restored 20 apps, I don't think that the problem is app quantity...or root itself
Thank you for your attention

I doubt that TiBu is the culprit. What might be happening is that you are experiencing corruption or issues related to migrating data from ROM versions using the wrong method, which is why TiBu offers different methods (XML vs 'snapshot') of backup and restore. I'm not sure from a technical standpoint why that would possibly affect your performance - perhaps someone else can explain, but I've never noticed any issue with TiBu at all.

Thank you very much for your comment
I have always kept backups not only changing roms, but also phones
For example. these backups are partially from nexus 5x and m9
Which method should I use to ensure a decent compatibility?

I've never had an issue with titanium either changing rooms from sense to aosp and back and phones. I would install one thing at a time and reboot after each install to figure out which package is causing the lag. Sounds tedious but it's the only way to figure where your issue is

I'm going to flash stock back and use titanium just for few necessary apps
let's see if I'm crazy or not
anyway, I think that mine is a very small problem that not anyone would notice....these stutters are veeery very small