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Hit post #11 for a walkthrough on replacing the earpiece.
Funny but kinda looking for serious replies as it is quite important
Nokia AAC-0510 seems working. (Chinese) http://www.itfunz.com/thread-84490-1-1.html
Somewhere on this forum is a link to a Russian blogger who pulled one apart and (apparently) swapped out speakers.
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Just to report back i received the k850i earpiece today and successfully replaced it with the original one from the Defy, works perfectly and no modding at all except flattening the terminals slightly, its a very snug fit but is working fine and is much clearer than the original one in terms of call quality. Maybe the mods could sticky this or something incase anyone else has the earpiece problem. Total cost of repair £1.99 for earpiece and about 30minutes of my time !! much better than sending to motorolla for weeks on end in my opinion.
Cheers
Wizard123
That is great info to know! I am more confident in getting a Defy now knowing I can fix it on my own.
Any guide with pictures for us?
well done wizard123
i hope i will never have to do what you did with your speaker but... who knows?
yes a detailed guide with picture and tools-to-use would be a nice idea - really useful for all the people who void the warranty
A quick question...
What's the waterproofing situation like? Is there a membrane between the earpiece and the outside world or is it built into the Defy earpiece?
No problem guys, i hope you never have the issues but i know it did hit alot of people including me and motorolla claim mines was out of warranty being only 3 months old ?! but hey i dont have time to argue or mess about as i need my phone.
I will try to get some pictures up but in the meantime follow these steps it is so so simple :
1. Remove battery & SIM card
2. Remove the 7 screws from around the phone casing and the 2 silver screws underneath the back cover. ( You will need very small torx bits )
3. Separate the two halfs of the casing, ( very stiff and fiddly but dont be affraid to use a little force )
4. Carefully lift off the 2 connectors on the main PCB board and lift it out ( careful not to lose the yellow rubber washers )
5. Use a small pair of pliers or long nosed pliers to gently grib either side of the earpiece and slowly wiggle side to side untill it comes loose and lifts out ( This takes patience as it is very well glued in but does free off )
6. Take your new K850i earpiece and place into the slot with the two springy copper terminals facing up towards the top of the phone ( you dont HAVE to but i did flatten the terminals a little bit so not to bend the PCB board when you place it back in ) having the springy terminals on these earpieces placed the correct way up creates a very solid connection to the board too unlike the original earpieces which dont have any at all just flat terminals.
7. Return the PCB board back into position and reattach the 2 connectors removed in step 4.
8. Return the casing back into place and install all the screws ( dont forget the 2 SILVER screws FIRST, these hold the PCB board down to the casing and hold the connection solid to the earpiece )
9. Place SIM card and battery back in and boot up your fresh earpieced Defy
Pictures to follow soon hopefully
Cheers
Wizard123
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Have attached some pictures to reference, hope they help
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A quick question...
What's the waterproofing situation like? Is there a membrane between the earpiece and the outside world or is it built into the Defy earpiece?
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There IS a tiny tiny membrane between the earpiece and the casing and does appear that it would still be waterproof but i have yet to test that and not sure if i will as it is a BIG BIG risk lol ( maybe though hmmm )
Thanks for that.
So the membrane stayed with the handset casing through the procedure?
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having the springy terminals on these earpieces placed the correct way up creates a very solid connection to the board too unlike the original earpieces which dont have any at all just flat terminals.
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That's interesting. Maybe the failures are caused by poor connections in the first place. Perhaps a pre-emptive strike with some electrically conductive paint would save the day. It's claimed to function as an adhesive.
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No problem guys, i hope you never have the issues but i know it did hit alot of people including me and motorolla claim mines was out of warranty being only 3 months old ?! but hey i dont have time to argue or mess about as i need my phone.
I will try to get some pictures up but in the meantime follow these steps it is so so simple :
1. Remove battery & SIM card
2. Remove the 7 screws from around the phone casing and the 2 silver screws underneath the back cover. ( You will need very small torx bits )
3. Separate the two halfs of the casing, ( very stiff and fiddly but dont be affraid to use a little force )
4. Carefully lift off the 2 connectors on the main PCB board and lift it out ( careful not to lose the yellow rubber washers )
5. Use a small pair of pliers or long nosed pliers to gently grib either side of the earpiece and slowly wiggle side to side untill it comes loose and lifts out ( This takes patience as it is very well glued in but does free off )
6. Take your new K850i earpiece and place into the slot with the two springy copper terminals facing up towards the top of the phone ( you dont HAVE to but i did flatten the terminals a little bit so not to bend the PCB board when you place it back in ) having the springy terminals on these earpieces placed the correct way up creates a very solid connection to the board too unlike the original earpieces which dont have any at all just flat terminals.
7. Return the PCB board back into position and reattach the 2 connectors removed in step 4.
8. Return the casing back into place and install all the screws ( dont forget the 2 SILVER screws FIRST, these hold the PCB board down to the casing and hold the connection solid to the earpiece )
9. Place SIM card and battery back in and boot up your fresh earpieced Defy
Pictures to follow soon hopefully
Cheers
Wizard123
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Great guide there - may well help quite a few people
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Thanks for that.
So the membrane stayed with the handset casing through the procedure?
That's interesting. Maybe the failures are caused by poor connections in the first place. Perhaps a pre-emptive strike with some electrically conductive paint would save the day. It's claimed to function as an adhesive.
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Yes only the earpiece came away from the casing using the method i applied but again i can't swear by the membrane as it could possibly be different with other variants of the phone ( although i doubt it ).
And plus for me atleast, i'd rather have a working phone than a waterproof phone ( just me though )
I am nearly certain its an actual defect with the earpieces because if you blow the earpiece with some canned air it will function for 5-10 seconds before going off again.
I do think there may be a problem with both the connections and earpieces though as the way the oem connections are designed in the Defy for the earpiece contacts are piss poor, excuse my french lol.
Well, I'm sending my Defy in for repair today, after my earpiece started playing-up intermittently over the weekend. I tried to insist on a replacement but Motorola's support team were adamant that a repair is my only option under the terms of my warranty. Ah, well. I've got a spare phone.
That said, I will likely "paint" the earpiece connections upon its return and it's good to know that the K850i part works. I may buy a couple as a precaution.
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Well, I'm sending my Defy in for repair today, after my earpiece started playing-up intermittently over the weekend. I tried to insist on a replacement but Motorola's support team were adamant that a repair is my only option under the terms of my warranty. Ah, well. I've got a spare phone.
That said, I will likely "paint" the earpiece connections upon its return and it's good to know that the K850i part works. I may buy a couple as a precaution.
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That sucks man sorry to hear that, it seems to be not if it will happen but when it will happen with these earpieces, yep motorola sucks for customer support to be fair. I hope your phone comes back ok though, alot of people have had it repair only for it to fail again a few weeks later.
Can I just double check which seller you got yours from as I've had a look on ebay & the three that are for sale look different styles - unless the pics are not of actual items?
Cheers
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Can I just double check which seller you got yours from as I've had a look on ebay & the three that are for sale look different styles - unless the pics are not of actual items?
Cheers
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The actual one i used is this one :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300370841729&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
There is an actual motorola one that has the same terminals as the original but ( my opinion i would not trust another earpiece from them ) :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220640434368&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
I wouldnt worry too much if they look slightly different aslong as they are for the k850i as it will most likely be because they are from different manufacturers
Hope that helps
That's great thanks very much
Might just order one to keep as you never know when it'll stop working.
I had my earpiece replaced by the company, you should really send it to motorola and don't mess around with the device.
hey guys, im in urgent need of a xperia play logic board, because my sim card slot is damaged due to a bent pin, can anyone that is striping their play and selling parts please pm me
Wouldn't it be far easier to just wire up the bent pin directly?
what do you mean? the actual pin is acctually like fullly bent and riped off.
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what do you mean? the actual pin is acctually like fullly bent and riped off.
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I mean that you would make and attach a wire or something else to make the connection because it would actually be easier and cheaper than taking the whole phone apart and anyone with a soldering iron could do it. Now, that I have seen that the sim contacts are actually on a module, I see that you can just buy that module and not replace the entire motherboard.
sure? because its the sd card module that comes apart, not the sim slot, and if im to soder a wire, it means i need to unsoder the metal plate thats repaining the sim like the cop covering.
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sure? because its the sd card module that comes apart, not the sim slot, and if im to soder a wire, it means i need to unsoder the metal plate thats repaining the sim like the cop covering.
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I see. I thought they were on the same module considering their proximity. If it means avoiding buying a new motherboard, I'd rip the plate off before I bought another.
hmm true true, would you know where to buy a new logic board?
Logic board? This isn't Apple dude. We don't use made-up names for parts to sound cool.
Anyway, if you check your local craigslist you might be able to find people selling broken ones for parts. Or perhaps Ebay. I've bought replacement parts for a LOT of electronics on Ebay.
And as CZroe said, you could probably just replace the module instead of the whole board, or if it's not part of a module, solder a small piece of wire.
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alright, ill see, i dont think theres a craiglist in australia? haha but ill see, ill probably be going with sodering a wire onto the connectors.
Thanks anyway. and motherboard haha sorry.
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Logic board? This isn't Apple dude. We don't use made-up names for parts to sound cool.
Anyway, if you check your local craigslist you might be able to find people selling broken ones for parts. Or perhaps Ebay. I've bought replacement parts for a LOT of electronics on Ebay.
And as CZroe said, you could probably just replace the module instead of the whole board, or if it's not part of a module, solder a small piece of wire.
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"Logic board" is actually a pretty old name for any circuit board containing logic circuitry and components (doesn't need to be a "printed" circuit board or "PCB"). I hear it more often when talking about devices and "motherboard" more often when talking about PCs. I hear mainboard more often with older large appliances (think: "TV" or "arcade machine"). "Backplane" or "planar board" were actually really common ways to refer to a PC motherboard at one time!
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"Logic board" is actually a pretty old name for any circuit board containing logic circuitry and components (doesn't need to be a "printed" circuit board or "PCB"). I hear it more often when talking about devices and "motherboard" more often when talking about PCs. I hear mainboard more often with older large appliances (think: "TV" or "arcade machine"). "Backplane" or "planar board" were actually really common ways to refer to a PC motherboard at one time!
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Mainboard ive always called it
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haha, i call it motherboard haha but yehs, so you rekon sodering a piece of wire or something wouldnt hurt it?
Provided you do a fine enough solder job, and it's conductive enough, I assume it would work.
On my old iPod mini, the molex connector for the button panel broke because those models had a defect in the design. I had to use a large magnifying glass on a stand (like what wristwatch repair guys use) and a sewing needle attached to a soldering iron to fix it.
You may need to do something similar.
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outch, thats going to be painful.. you think repair shops will be able to repair it?
Possibly, but in my experience repair can be expensive.
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what was your problem? how much it costed?
That fix I did on my iPod mini was quoted at over 100 dollars at a repair shop, for both parts and labor. I fixed it myself without any replacement parts in an hour.
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wow... but the thing is im scared of burning any of the parts with the sodering iron. and what wire would i need?
I'd take a wire of similar width to the pin, and flatten it so it's the same shape and size.
If you do the soldering a little bit at a time, and don't hold the iron on too long, it should be ok.
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alright, thanks for the tip, so basically all i need is a sodering iron, piece of wire and side cutters to shape the wire?
I was uncomfortable on how close the usb connector sat with the S3 installed in the Infuse car dock. You could actually scratch the S3 bezel if you weren't careful inserting the phone into the dock. This is because the bottom of the Infuse is flat and the S3 is rounded, it makes the S3 sit ever so slightly closer to the usb connector. I took apart the dock and lengthen the "channel", trimmed the retention plate, and removed the middle retention clip that holds the rear cover on. End result is it opens up about 1.0-1.5mm more then normal making ample clearance for the S3
Attached are pictures of the modified dock..
How hard was it to remove the sliding part from the rest of the dock? I am planning to take it apart soon (after my microUSB extension cable comes in) but didnt want to try it until I knew the cable worked. It seems like it would just pop off, but I didnt want to apply too much force yet.
I just need the bottom part to maintain charging and audio out. I plan on hiding it under the dash and just using the extension cable.
Appreciate the info.
the_buzz_man
the_buzz_man said:
How hard was it to remove the sliding part from the rest of the dock? I am planning to take it apart soon (after my microUSB extension cable comes in) but didnt want to try it until I knew the cable worked. It seems like it would just pop off, but I didnt want to apply too much force yet.
I just need the bottom part to maintain charging and audio out. I plan on hiding it under the dash and just using the extension cable.
Appreciate the info.
the_buzz_man
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Getting the back cover off without breaking it is a bit tricky. There aren't any screws at all and is held in by only clips. I used two really small flay head screwdrivers and popped it up using the location of the Infuse speaker hole. I then wedged in a hobby knife it and used it to pry up all the edges until the rear popped off. Once off you'll need a #00 Philips screwdriver to remove the screws holding the retention plate on.
Here are some more pics of the modifications.
First pic: Lengthen channel and trimmed retention plate
Second pic: This is how much it opened with out any mods.
Third pic: This is how much it opens after the mods.
Good work, I've taken this apart before on the D710 mount I used previously for my Skyrocket and before I got an Infuse mount for the SIII since everyone was raving about them, but I also noticed that it was a little too close for comfort.... I've just been very careful putting it in, but as much as I drive, it's not something I'll be able to protect every time, so I know what my quick little Sunday project will be today!
I also flipped the Samsung logo around
Feel free to use any of these steps I made for the D710 dock modifications I did in order to get a Skyrocket to fit, it may help others with the disassembly of the back portion in order to get to the screws and the sliders:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24453360&postcount=52
Thanks for the tip! I couldn't get the screws loose, so I carefully dremeled the retention bracket in place. Works like a charm!
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First off, THANKS to vw671!! Soon as I get my dock, I will do this to spare my S3!
KryptosXLayer2 said:
Feel free to use any of these steps I made for the D710 dock modifications I did in order to get a Skyrocket to fit, it may help others with the disassembly of the back portion in order to get to the screws and the sliders
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Any link by chance? Searched your created threads and couldn't find it... and too lazy to search more
flawedlegacy said:
Any link by chance? Searched your created threads and couldn't find it... and too lazy to search more
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That's what I get for trying to post the link in the text on my phone! Sorry for being stupid..... Haha, here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24453360&postcount=52
lol, thanks!
sblees said:
Thanks for the tip! I couldn't get the screws loose, so I carefully dremeled the retention bracket in place. Works like a charm!
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I know what you mean...I had to go to the hardware store to buy a #00 screwdriver to get off the screws! I thought about doing exactly what you did, both will work.
happened to get mine moments ago.... anyone care to explain how to get the back part off exactly? I know you said two clips but where do I pry?
-also, how was the Samsung plate turned around? Already modding it, might as well do that!
EDIT: I GOT IT! -and will try to make a video!
Still interested in the Samsung plate though. tried same method with that and couldn't get it
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happened to get mine moments ago.... anyone care to explain how to get the back part off exactly? I know you said two clips but where do I pry?
-also, how was the Samsung plate turned around? Already modding it, might as well do that!
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Clip locations in attached pic.
To flip the Samsung logo around you have to get it off obviously. I used a single sided razor blade to pry it up. Then you have to trim two tabs off the back, you'll know which two when you try to put it back on.
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happened to get mine moments ago.... anyone care to explain how to get the back part off exactly? I know you said two clips but where do I pry?
-also, how was the Samsung plate turned around? Already modding it, might as well do that!
EDIT: I GOT IT! -and will try to make a video!
Still interested in the Samsung plate though. tried same method with that and couldn't get it
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The op mentioned to pry at the headphone jack but I pried it at the rectangle hole (not the usb hole).
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sblees said:
The op mentioned to pry at the headphone jack but I pried it at the rectangle hole (not the usb hole).
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I did NOT say pry it from the headphone jack.
I said:
"I used two really small flay head screwdrivers and popped it up using the location of the Infuse speaker hole."
Which is the rectangular hole.
yeah, i got that after pulling my head from my @&# and actually trying. Started from the sides and worked around. Not too bad. All I used was razor and screwdriver. Tried the Samsung plate and snapped the razor, lol.
So I just noticed your "dock" part doesn't have any writing on it. Mine says "LOCK" with a triangle showing to slide it up. odd...
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I did NOT say pry it from the headphone jack.
I said:
"I used two really small flay head screwdrivers and popped it up using the location of the Infuse speaker hole."
Which is the rectangular hole.
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Oh, I must have misunderstood. When you said speaker hole, my first thought was the 3.5mm hole.
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flawedlegacy said:
So I just noticed your "dock" part doesn't have any writing on it. Mine says "LOCK" with a triangle showing to slide it up. odd...
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haha...waiting for someone to notice that I scratched the front surface trying to pry open the back so I sanded down the front with 2,000 grit sandpaper. I was going to buffing it back to be polished but ended up liking the matte finish. The finish looks better in person than in the pic because a flash was used...the finish sort of matches the Pebble Blue's texture.
any chance of modding it to fit it with a slim case? someone mentioned heat gun in another thread to expand it a little. thoughts?
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any chance of modding it to fit it with a slim case? someone mentioned heat gun in another thread to expand it a little. thoughts?
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It would have to be an ultra thin case. I'm going to try this out.
http://www.bodyguardz.com/armor-car...-iii-verizon.html?dir=asc&order=sort_priority
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The seal is broke. Anyone managed to do this?
andacro said:
The seal is broke. Anyone managed to do this?
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When you say jack, are you referring to the plastic flap covering the port…?
If yes, then not the audio jack, but I have replaced the USB / Charging jack as it was cracked. Basically I ordered the new flap from this website – www.rounded.com
Then I pulled out the broken one and inserted the new flap – well I tried inserting it myself but didn’t have the right tool. So went to a normal phone repair shop and they inserted the new one for me free of cost in a few seconds. You might need a pointed but maybe blunt object to insert the rubber thingy attached to the flap into the socket.
Hope this helps.
Thank you for helping me! I mean the flap yes. I have tried to pull it out, but should I pull harder? It's kinda stuck, and I was afraid to snap the string. Now I can give my phone a prolonged life.
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Thank you for helping me! I mean the flap yes. I have tried to pull it out, but should I pull harder? It's kinda stuck, and I was afraid to snap the string. Now I can give my phone a prolonged life.
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Yes, it is a bit hard to pull out. But in my case yes - I just pulled harder and the string did snap! It left behind a part of the original rubber string inside the socket I think.
However the replacement flap that I ordered had a much smaller string, so it was easy to insert it back into the same socket, where a part of the old string was left behind.
Good luck.
Thank you. Thinking of using pliers at the bottom of the string. Maybe it wont snap then.
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Thank you. Thinking of using pliers at the bottom of the string. Maybe it wont snap then.
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Pictures. Or, it didn't happen...
Received the parts today. Changed the USB and audio cover. Used angeled tweezers, and managed to get out all of them by pulling and moving the tweezers downwards when the string stretched. Used the tweezers to insert them too.
Now I got two more years of use.
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Received the parts today. Changed the USB and audio cover. Used angeled tweezers, and managed to get out all of them by pulling and moving the tweezers downwards when the string stretched. Used the tweezers to insert them too.
Now I got two more years of use.
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Do you have the charging dock and a bluetooth headset?
That removes the need to [almost] ever open the flaps right?
Charging dock, but not a bluetooth headset. Don't know why the gasket on the audio jack cover fell off since I seldom use a headset. The USB cover gasket was worn because of all that use of Flashtool.
hello guys
can any one help me to find a website sells one m8 motherboard
also any body tried to replace it himself ?
my phone was droped in water ...
No one :|
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Eiad Ajam said:
hello guys
can any one help me to find a website sells one m8 motherboard
also any body tried to replace it himself ?
my phone was droped in water ...
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Well, it is doable, but still messy. Battery is placed UNDER the logic board which means you'll have to take it completely apart. It involves some heating, because both speaker covers are glued on with an adhesive, and only then you can start unscrewing the front. The logic board is connected with a staggering 10 (yes, ten) cables. After you remove the logic board, you'll have to be very careful with removing the battery, since it too is held in place with some adhesive to the back of the LCD screen.
Parts availability on the other hand is a different story. Battery should not be so hard to get I guess... I had to replace the logic board so I had all my berserker skills invested in finding that. Still very hard to get a logic board, at least for any other make than the Verizon. I was lucky to get my hands on with a little help from a friend that works at a HTC service center. Other than that, you'll just have to get creative I'm afraid.
Replacing the motherboard is pretty simple, the hardest part is actually getting to it. Removing the back is a pain in the butt.
You can buy all the parts you need at etradesupply.
The speaker grills come over easily. Then there are 2 phillips and 4 t4/5 screws. Pry it open(Watch some videos for some tips)
For the main motherboard I believe there are 6 ribbon cables attached to the main board, and another 3 attached to the sister board.
If you're technologically inclined and can use a screwdriver you should be fine.
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Replacing the motherboard is pretty simple, the hardest part is actually getting to it. Removing the back is a pain in the butt.
You can buy all the parts you need at etradesupply.
The speaker grills come over easily. Then there are 2 phillips and 4 t4/5 screws. Pry it open(Watch some videos for some tips)
For the main motherboard I believe there are 6 ribbon cables attached to the main board, and another 3 attached to the sister board.
If you're technologically inclined and can use a screwdriver you should be fine.
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thank you for your reply
my problem was i couldn't find any site selling the m8 motherboard
even etradesupply not have it