Poor multitasking performance after SHIELD experience 5.1 - Shield Android TV General

Hi guys.
When Nougat was introduced to the Shield, it was awesome, mainly because I could switch between YouTube and Kodi (yea, that's all I use the shield for).
But right after the SHIELD experience 5.1 update, multitasking became much slower.
I double-tap on my menu button, the recents page comes up. When I click the app, there is a brief blank screen before the app shows up. It feels like it has to flush down all the memory before taking in for the next app.
Sometimes, the brief blank screen appears before the recents page comes up.
I am pretty sure it was zippy before this update. Can anyone comment on this? My unit is completely stock and if you guys dont see this prob, I might just wanna go for a factory reset.
Thanks!

How long did it blank? As I don't feel any lag, also Kodi and youtube. But after 5.1 everytime after reboot my personal home screen app order will lost, this drive me crazy.

DummyPLUG said:
How long did it blank? As I don't feel any lag, also Kodi and youtube. But after 5.1 everytime after reboot my personal home screen app order will lost, this drive me crazy.
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For a good 4-5secs. You can't miss it. You don't see it?

it is highly recommended to do a factory reset after every update just to start fresh clean but you can try first clearing data of those apps but im pretty sure that would be useless as the main multitasking point is system related.
That way you can isolate common issues and if problem persist continue with troubleshooting and contacting a Nvidia rep.
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MasK said:
For a good 4-5secs. You can't miss it. You don't see it?
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not even 1 second

Thanks guys.
Definitely gonna factory reset it. Not gonna loose much. Just need to install Kodi and I'm all set!
On the side note, have ya guys used any better 3rd party YouTube apps for the AndroidTV? The stock one is terrible. I hate the on-screen display. It covers the whole screen. It's impossible to pause the video to read some info on screen. Can't they just have a small bar at the bottom instead?

MasK said:
Thanks guys.
Definitely gonna factory reset it. Not gonna loose much. Just need to install Kodi and I'm all set!
On the side note, have ya guys used any better 3rd party YouTube apps for the AndroidTV? The stock one is terrible. I hate the on-screen display. It covers the whole screen. It's impossible to pause the video to read some info on screen. Can't they just have a small bar at the bottom instead?
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Kodi youtube plugin?

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Kodi youtube plugin?
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I think I tried that before. The UI seems unpolished it seems.
Also, if I want to switch between a running movie in Kodi and YouTube, I'll have to exit the movie first before running the plugin.
If I use another app, I can quickly multi-task using the recents button.
First world problems I guess

there is also smart youtube on play store and you can also always sideload handheld versions.
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A quick update. Did a factory reset and my multitasking lag is gone!
Totally worth it

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Loving this phone, just a couple of things though...

I've had this phone for a week now and loving the screen, form-factor, games and general ICS+Sense 4 functionality. I think I may have been lucky with mine as I haven't had any screen jitters, ripple effects, yellow blocks, loose glass or issues in general.
Having said that, I have a few gripes and wondering if other people feel the same way or know if there is a workaround to fix these little niggling issues... In particular:
Changing a music track when browsing the web (or doing anything else for that matter)
I cue up a bunch of songs on shuffle, then start browsing the web. A song comes on that I don't like. I have to either switch to the home page or the music app to skip the current track. Why aren't there "next" or "previous" buttons in the status pulldown menu? I can pause... but nothing else... frustrating that I have to switch apps just to change tracks.
Bringing the phone out of standby
So the size of the phone is great an all but the power button is a little frustrating to push. It's angled toward the front, and normally my hand will be behind the phone, making it an effort to try to hit the button. It's also not very pronounced making this even harder. It would be great if there was an easier way to bring it out of standby like with the capacitive home button or the volume rocker somehow...
Useless included apps can't be uninstalled
There are a few apps that HTC have included in their stock ROM. Why can I not uninstall these?! All these apps do at the moment is make it more difficult for me to locate the icons of the actual apps I want to use in the apps menu.
Anyone else feel the same way about any/all of the above?
That's it from me for now, VERY happy with the phone and can't wait to see what the XDA Devs can do with this beast!
1) Try a different music player, Poweramp or such.
2) Should be available on custom roms
3) Go into apps in settings then from there you can disable unwanted items. Alternatively root and delete using Titanium or Root explorer.
Slingsh0t85 said:
Useless included apps can't be uninstalled[/U]
There are a few apps that HTC have included in their stock ROM. Why can I not uninstall these?! All these apps do at the moment is make it more difficult for me to locate the icons of the actual apps I want to use in the apps menu.
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I wondered about this as well.
I haven't got my phone yet but whenever I see a screenshot of the apps I see Crappy Birds and Amazon mp3.
I sure hope that crappy crap game isn't in the ROM by default...
No but there's another annoying game along other stuff called "Teeter" on the phone. They better get paid a crapload of money for this bloatware to be installed on their devices.
Noticed the power button to wake myself: Angle is really not that well placed.
I don't like another thing: Being able to change volume without unlocking the screen always causes me to do just that: The volume rocker is too big to miss it when holding the phone in the hand normally.
Apart from that: Incredible phone!
"I cue up a bunch of songs on shuffle, then start browsing the web. A song comes on that I don't like."
Why did you cue up a song you didn't like
Traniz said:
I wondered about this as well.
I haven't got my phone yet but whenever I see a screenshot of the apps I see Crappy Birds and Amazon mp3.
I sure hope that crappy crap game isn't in the ROM by default...
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Neither Angry Birds or Amazon MP3 were preinstalled on mine.
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Traniz said:
I wondered about this as well.
I haven't got my phone yet but whenever I see a screenshot of the apps I see Crappy Birds and Amazon mp3.
I sure hope that crappy crap game isn't in the ROM by default...
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2weiklang said:
No but there's another annoying game along other stuff called "Teeter" on the phone. They better get paid a crapload of money for this bloatware to be installed on their devices.
Noticed the power button to wake myself: Angle is really not that well placed.
I don't like another thing: Being able to change volume without unlocking the screen always causes me to do just that: The volume rocker is too big to miss it when holding the phone in the hand normally.
Apart from that: Incredible phone!
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Teeter is an HTC game and has been included on just about everyone of their phones for the last five years.
It's fun, try it

DARKSIDE v7 - Apps not being killed...

I am on TDJ's Darkside Venom v7 and I have looked everywhere trying to find a solution... I don 't know if I'm crazy but my apps (i.e. YouTube, FlipBoard, XDA, Play Store, etc...) won't kill themselves after hours of not being opened back up. They stay in the exact same state I left them when I clicked home or closed the app. I never had this issue before because the Android OS has been pretty good at killing unused apps however on this ROM this hasnt been happening. I am new to the whole rooting thing and have learned quite a bit however still a newb none the less..
I've searched the whole thread however still running a blank...
Does anyone have any advice??
Thanks in advance.
pressing home will keep it open. You need to press back to exit it. The OS does not feel the need to close them because we have 1gb of RAM. You can always swipe the screens from the recent list.
Teo032 said:
pressing home will keep it open. You need to press back to exit it. The OS does not feel the need to close them because we have 1gb of RAM. You can always swipe the screens from the recent list.
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Touché.
That'll work!

Asphalt 8 is out and supports shield!

I have to say this is the first gameloft game that I really like. The graphics run on high and so far it runs smooth.
Great looking game, but it does stutter/lag often on my Shield (especially when all the cars are on screen) I noticed that rebooting the device before playing helps. Does anyone else have this issue? I am sure that Tegra 4 can run this game easily, so maybe Gameloft needs to properly optimize it
MRCANNADY said:
Great looking game, but it does stutter/lag often on my Shield (especially when all the cars are on screen) I noticed that rebooting the device before playing helps. Does anyone else have this issue? I am sure that Tegra 4 can run this game easily, so maybe Gameloft needs to properly optimize it
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My guess by the sounds of it is that you are unaware that android multitasks and have not ever bothered closing apps in the background.... That would explain why rebooting helps first as that would close background apps which would otherwise cause lag.
I actually blame android poorly labelling the "recent apps" button, it actually shows "running" apps, if you open recent apps and swipe an app to the left or right to remove it from the list it closes it (and a few more like steam, dropbox and facebook also run 24/7 but need closing from task manager). There are also android task killing apps and widgets which close all running apps with the exception of system ones and those you specify in a whitelist with 1 press.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
My guess by the sounds of it is that you are unaware that android multitasks and have not ever bothered closing apps in the background.... That would explain why rebooting helps first as that would close background apps which would otherwise cause lag.
I actually blame android poorly labelling the "recent apps" button, it actually shows "running" apps, if you open recent apps and swipe an app to the left or right to remove it from the list it closes it (and a few more like steam, dropbox and facebook also run 24/7 but need closing from task manager). There are also android task killing apps and widgets which close all running apps with the exception of system ones and those you specify in a whitelist with 1 press.
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Oh trust me, I'm a Android veteran, and know all about killing running task! I do kill all running processes before playing, but I still see some lag. It only seems to run best when the entire Shield is rebooted. I am pretty sure that this is an optimization issue with the game, as I dont have to reboot at all with all the other tegra 4 enhanced games that I have on my Shield.
I just wanted to see if i was the only person having this issue..thanks for replying
Drifting
Is it possible to partially drift with the Nvidia Shield like how you would with your phone? Each time I drift, it doesn't allow you to make a small drift, only large drifts.
ChrisFirerabbit said:
Is it possible to partially drift with the Nvidia Shield like how you would with your phone? Each time I drift, it doesn't allow you to make a small drift, only large drifts.
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What do you mean large drifts?
If you want to stop drifting just hit the "X" button again.
SiDCrAzY said:
What do you mean large drifts?
If you want to stop drifting just hit the "X" button again.
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Thanks, but if you played this with your standard phone, you use the gyroscope which allows you to either drift/ turn a little or a lot, when I say large drifts I am not referring to the length, sorry for the confusion. So is there anyway to control the turn while drifting?
Image of Over-steer
ChrisFirerabbit said:
Thanks, but if you played this with your standard phone, you use the gyroscope which allows you to either drift/ turn a little or a lot, when I say large drifts I am not referring to the length, sorry for the confusion. So is there anyway to control the turn while drifting?
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Oh okay, well I haven't tried it on a phone so I don't know what level of control the gyroscope gives you, but slightly moving the left joystick on the shield gives you control while you're drifting.
I haven't mastered it yet so I still have trouble with it doing what I want it to, but it definitely alters your drift direction.
SiDCrAzY said:
Oh okay, well I haven't tried it on a phone so I don't know what level of control the gyroscope gives you, but slightly moving the left joystick on the shield gives you control while you're drifting.
I haven't mastered it yet so I still have trouble with it doing what I want it to, but it definitely alters your drift direction.
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oh ok, thank you
MRCANNADY said:
Great looking game, but it does stutter/lag often on my Shield (especially when all the cars are on screen) I noticed that rebooting the device before playing helps. Does anyone else have this issue? I am sure that Tegra 4 can run this game easily, so maybe Gameloft needs to properly optimize it
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Use a live wallpaper that Uses the Unity engine, it seems to wake up the CPU/GPU after it goes to sleep which causes both to run at only 60% of the specs.
Nvidia said they were going to look into it, in the Nvidia Shield forums, but there is no ETA on when.
I use the "Andromeda Free Live Wallpaper" would love to put a link to the store but just created the account today so I'm restricted for the time being so search on the Google Play store.
miguelvp said:
Use a live wallpaper that Uses the Unity engine, it seems to wake up the CPU/GPU after it goes to sleep which causes both to run at only 60% of the specs.
Nvidia said they were going to look into it, in the Nvidia Shield forums, but there is no ETA on when.
I use the "Andromeda Free Live Wallpaper" would love to put a link to the store but just created the account today so I'm restricted for the time being so search on the Google Play store.
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I just saw this tip in the nvidia forums also. Thanks...works like a charm! Very little to no lag now.
I've had a lot of fun with this game as well.
But has anyone noticed any random crashing to homescreen? My first crash was when my battery was getting fairly low, so I was afraid that had something to do with it. But then even after recharging some I got more random crashes. I re-enabled wifi and haven't had a crash since...
That kind of makes me curious what is going on... but I haven't looked into it further yet, so don't mean to raise any alarms.
Throughout all this though it has not corrupted my save data or anything, at least as of yet *knock on wood*. I think it was Asphault 7 that one time I got a phone call in the middle of gameplay and it crashed the game and corrupted my save data >_> I had some backups though, but lost some progress.
~Troop
That's weird. I haven't seen any crashes yet but I haven't played it for extended periods of time yet either.
Really Glad that one good Racing game has the controller support.
Enjoyed playing the game a lot
All games that use onscreen controls should be updated to support joysticks/controlpads either shield/moga/ps3 etc. You know how much better it is to physical controls? Freakin' amazing.
tenchichrono said:
All games that use onscreen controls should be updated to support joysticks/controlpads either shield/moga/ps3 etc. You know how much better it is to physical controls? Freakin' amazing.
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Agree! it all ends up with the developer/publisher for the support.

[REQ] WWE Network Fire TV apk

Hey guys, I am looking for the wwe network apk directly from the fire tv, I have a tronsmart s89-h android box, and cannot get the standard wwe network app to work, I am hoping that this will solve all my issues but i cannot find a way to get the apk anywhere. I would appreciate your help! thanks!
Sorry, I'm just heading off to work, but when I get home, I can pull the apk for you.
Let me guess. The issue you're having is with GPS, right? That was the problem I had before the FireTV version came out
Bloodflame said:
Sorry, I'm just heading off to work, but when I get home, I can pull the apk for you.
Let me guess. The issue you're having is with GPS, right? That was the problem I had before the FireTV version came out
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That would be amazing! and Yes i Believe the issue has come down to the device not having any kind of gps, Im assuming the fire tv does not have that check, plus it is much more suited for a tv, (landscape mode!)
Alright, as promised, here's the apk. Current version is 1.0.1
It's basically the same UI as the PS3 app, but I'll admit, it's a little buggy at times.
In any case, enjoy! http://www39.zippyshare.com/v/84400404/file.html
Edit: Well I tried this on a couple of my other devices, and it turns out this has a security check for the Amazon App Store, and you also need to have the app registered to your Amazon account. This may or may not work out for you afterall. I tried, man...
Bloodflame said:
Alright, as promised, here's the apk. Current version is 1.0.1
It's basically the same UI as the PS3 app, but I'll admit, it's a little buggy at times.
In any case, enjoy! http://www39.zippyshare.com/v/84400404/file.html
Edit: Well I tried this on a couple of my other devices, and it turns out this has a security check for the Amazon App Store, and you also need to have the app registered to your Amazon account. This may or may not work out for you afterall. I tried, man...
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So i was able to purchase/own the wwe network app from the online amazon store despite me not technically having a device it would run on, this box can also install the amazon app store no problem, though it obviously only sees the android wwe network app and not this one.. GOOD NEWS is that the app is working on my account! its def a bit wonky but i am hoping it is some stuff i can fix with some DPI xposed changes or something of the like, thanks so much very appreciated, and def works!!
Bloodflame said:
Alright, as promised, here's the apk. Current version is 1.0.1
It's basically the same UI as the PS3 app, but I'll admit, it's a little buggy at times.
In any case, enjoy! http://www39.zippyshare.com/v/84400404/file.html
Edit: Well I tried this on a couple of my other devices, and it turns out this has a security check for the Amazon App Store, and you also need to have the app registered to your Amazon account. This may or may not work out for you afterall. I tried, man...
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Where do I get a amazon app store at for I can register and use this apk.could someone please list a download link. Thanks
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xda23 said:
Where do I get a amazon app store at for I can register and use this apk.could someone please list a download link. Thanks
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Well, After some playing around, it isnt exactly usable. First off on the menu there is a about an inch or 2 white space on the bottom and right side of screen, i believe this can be fixed with some kind of dpi mod, but not totally sure. secondly, only the home screen loads images, ie, whats playing now, whats coming up, if u go to pay per views, it is just empty boxes with borders, none of the images load until you get to the actual video description, but you really have no idea what you are clicking. Lastly when playing a video (which does indeed work) with my tronsmart tsm-01 air mote i could not do anything but go back, i could not pause i could not get the menu up. i could not fast forward etc. only could go back. So while it is useable to watch summerslam, with no dvr feature thats really about it. maybe the dpi issue will fix everything who knows, I only played around with it for about 15 minutes as i headed to work, but its hardly worth it right now.
As far as getting the amazon app store. probably used more effort typing in this forum than to just simply google 'android app store' : http://bit.ly/uC6tic
penskyc said:
Well, After some playing around, it isnt exactly usable. First off on the menu there is a about an inch or 2 white space on the bottom and right side of screen, i believe this can be fixed with some kind of dpi mod, but not totally sure. secondly, only the home screen loads images, ie, whats playing now, whats coming up, if u go to pay per views, it is just empty boxes with borders, none of the images load until you get to the actual video description, but you really have no idea what you are clicking. Lastly when playing a video (which does indeed work) with my tronsmart tsm-01 air mote i could not do anything but go back, i could not pause i could not get the menu up. i could not fast forward etc. only could go back. So while it is useable to watch summerslam, with no dvr feature thats really about it. maybe the dpi issue will fix everything who knows, I only played around with it for about 15 minutes as i headed to work, but its hardly worth it right now.
As far as getting the amazon app store. probably used more effort typing in this forum than to just simply google 'android app store' : http://bit.ly/uC6tic
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i removed the amazon store check, tested the wwe app on my s5. all crunched up but i as able to navigate and play live streams
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ouya/general/wwe-network-t2798831

Shortcut Missing after Isengard Installation

I installed Kodi 15.0 (Isengard) last night, mainly for the long-awaited reduction in jump-back and jump-ahead times. Used to be 30 seconds -- waaaay too much of a jump -- but now it's closer to the TiVo jump-back time of seven seconds. The jump time can be increased with additional clicks. Most excellent!
The only downside to upgrading that I've seen so far is that I seem to have lost my big blue Kodi shortcut that used to sit in the Recent Apps section at the top of the Fire TV homepage. The bummer is that the Kodi app is no longer available on Amazon, so I can't simply re-download and reinstall it. Anyone know why it disappeared, or more importantly, how to get it back?
I'll also mention that I installed FireStarter at the same time I installed Isengard, so it's possible FireStarter is to blame instead. Either way, FireStarter is still a good means of accessing Kodi quickly, but I do miss that big blue Kodi button on the Fire TV home screen.
Try this:
http://kodi.wiki/view/Amazon_Fire_TV#Launch_Kodi_from_an_Existing_App_on_the_FTV_Home_Screen
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Try this:
http://kodi.wiki/view/Amazon_Fire_TV#Launch_Kodi_from_an_Existing_App_on_the_FTV_Home_Screen
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Thanks for the link, but I tried the whole Llama replacement thing a while back, and the icon never stuck. After a few days, it reverted from the Kodi logo back to the original replacement app's logo.
Raymondo17 said:
Thanks for the link, but I tried the whole Llama replacement thing a while back, and the icon never stuck. After a few days, it reverted from the Kodi logo back to the original replacement app's logo.
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Did you try tubi instead of ikono? That worked for me earlier this week.
Raymondo17 said:
Thanks for the link, but I tried the whole Llama replacement thing a while back, and the icon never stuck. After a few days, it reverted from the Kodi logo back to the original replacement app's logo.
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AFAIK this happens only when the sacrificial app had itself an update. Just repeat the whole procedure to restore the icon.
So, just updating Kodi/SPMC installations automatically removes their recent app icons from the Fire TV home screen?
Axecaster said:
So, just updating Kodi/SPMC installations automatically removes their recent app icons from the Fire TV home screen?
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No, I meant an update for the sacrificial app not the sideloaded KODI.
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No, I meant an update for the sacrificial app not the sideloaded KODI.
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Ah, thanks for the clarification.

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