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I'm new to Android and I see that every time I get a callthe Amazon mp3 Store and the Voice Dialler app have started. I haven't been able to find any settings in the apps themselves or the system settings to disable this. I can understand voice dialler starting with the phone app, but why in the world is the Amazon mp3 store linked to it? I'm hoping someone knows the mechanism by which one app causes another app to startup in Android.
If you use startup auditor you can select what you want to run at startup, but there is also a button to not let it run, even after startup. Are you on the stock rom? Go root and download one of the many good roms they have alot of the useless sprint crap taken out. (has ANYONE actually used the amazon store to buy an mp3? I mean, we have mp3 download on the market which is like a pirates wet dream) lol
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If you use startup auditor you can select what you want to run at startup, but there is also a button to not let it run, even after startup. Are you on the stock rom? Go root and download one of the many good roms they have alot of the useless sprint crap taken out. (has ANYONE actually used the amazon store to buy an mp3? I mean, we have mp3 download on the market which is like a pirates wet dream) lol
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i have used them before i like it, the pirate stuff sometimes does not have what im looking for
rekphiv said:
If you use startup auditor you can select what you want to run at startup, but there is also a button to not let it run, even after startup. Are you on the stock rom? Go root and download one of the many good roms they have alot of the useless sprint crap taken out. (has ANYONE actually used the amazon store to buy an mp3? I mean, we have mp3 download on the market which is like a pirates wet dream) lol
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Thanks. That's what I was looking for. I am on the stock ROM, but I'm still in the 30 day trial period and haven't decided if I will keep the Evo. I was able to tweak most settings to get a pretty good enough battery life that the stock ROM doesn't trouble me that much. I just needed a way to stop some of these programs from running. Besides, the voice dialler starting up problem would be there I'm assuming even with some of the tweaked ROMs since that's an Android component.
BTW do you know how exactly startup auditor works? What settings file does it alter to prevent this? Does anyone have a pointer to some Android OS docs on how exactly this starting up of processes automatically works? I hope startup auditor is not doing something silly like staying resident and then killing the processes you don't want?
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Thanks. That's what I was looking for. I am on the stock ROM, but I'm still in the 30 day trial period and haven't decided if I will keep the Evo. I was able to tweak most settings to get a pretty good enough battery life that the stock ROM doesn't trouble me that much. I just needed a way to stop some of these programs from running. Besides, the voice dialler starting up problem would be there I'm assuming even with some of the tweaked ROMs since that's an Android component.
BTW do you know how exactly startup auditor works? What settings file does it alter to prevent this? Does anyone have a pointer to some Android OS docs on how exactly this starting up of processes automatically works? I hope startup auditor is not doing something silly like staying resident and then killing the processes you don't want?
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Okay Startup Auditor isn't quite as good as I thought. It seems to work mostly but I still see the Amazon mp3 store starting up sometimes. It's really irritating. I'm glad I didn't decide to purchase the app right away and waited for some time. I'll try mailing the deveoper and see if he can do something.
By the way in case folks are interested, the way it seems to work is by intercepting the Android OS events for various things like new call, new messages etc. I guess it then somehow doesn't pass these events to the apps you don't want. I'll need to hit up some Android developer docs to read up on its event system.
So far I have been largely impressed by Android OS. I really, really like the level of customization - the importance of which cannot be overstated. I'm not out to start a flamer thread, but there are lots of things that Android, given the proper hardware, does better. However, there are still a couple things that I'm missing before I can declare my Desire fully ready for the stresses of the day.
I'm fairly addicted to podcasts - I listen to then pretty much every day, most of the day while at work. I know there are several apps where I can download podcasts right from the phone as well a few iTunes hop-on software packages. The goal is to get as much like what I can do in iTunes as possible. Say I have an audiobook that gets interrupted or that I want to supplement with some music. Is there a music program that can decipher between normal audio files and ones that are tagged as being audiobooks? Meaning that when you stop it in order to play another audio file, does it pick up where you left off? Also, I have 29 gigs of podcasts that I have not yet listened to. This is where the need for a simple, elegant media program on my desktop comes in. I'd like to be able to individually select which episodes of each podcast I'd like to sync with my Desire or have the option of just syncing everything in that specific podcast that has not yet been listened to. So basically, the same sorting capabilities of iTunes. That's the first thing that is missing.
I know there are hundreds of these task killer programs; some more thorough than others. This is where the iPhone exceeds (now) - but webOS even more so. I've found something that is a push in the right direction; QuickDesk Beta. But I need something like that that can also be brought up in the lock screen. More importantly though, there needs to be some kind of widget that can be placed within QuickDesk that displays all the programs currently open (even if they're in a static state), so you can easily 'x' whichever ones you'd like to close out of. I'm talking actual apps, not background services or mods of that type. WebOS is pretty much the benchmark for mobile task management, so I'd love to come as close to it as possible. This is the second thing that's missing, or maybe that I'm just not aware of yet. Any suggestions / ideas?
I'm running DeFroST 2.0b
One more quick question: I installed DeFroST 2.0b over 2.0a. After I had done this, I reinstalled the baseband version update, cause the echo came back. It's great now, but I'm wondering if there is anything about that procedure that is prone to cause problems. I know you should factory reset / clear cache before a ROM install, but I really didn't want to re-enter all my info / re download all my apps. I understand Google does a backup of your personal information on Froyo, I'm just not sure to what extent. Anyway... just curious.
Thanks to richardtrip and everyone involved in the making of the DeForST ROM - It's great! Definitely a cause worth donating to.
regarding what you said about task killers - there has been hundreds of threads about it already and still people dont understand that YOU SHOULDNT USE a task killer on android system.
http://androidspin.com/2010/05/25/why-you-dont-need-a-task-killer-app-with-android/
well, i need to from time to time. mainly for the browser.
For podcast have a look at Google Listen, might not do all you want but a good place to start.
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I'm also a bit of a podcast nut, I've tried most of the podcatching apps and found doggcatcher to be the best. Listen is pretty good for a free one.
By the way is that baseband update a fix for everyone that has the echo problem? That echo is the only reason I am still using Pays Eclair rom...
As for task managers, I think there is a place for them on older devices where ram is limited. You don't need one on the desire though.
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I'm also a bit of a podcast nut, I've tried most of the podcatching apps and found doggcatcher to be the best.
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I looked for doggcatcher but the only one I see is for a $6.99 one, not free....
I didn't say doggcatcher was free.
For syncronising your media whit your phone, you could try doubletwist.
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I didn't say doggcatcher was free.
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Yes, sorry, I misread it.... thanks. Didn't realise LISTEN was a program too...
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regarding what you said about task killers - there has been hundreds of threads about it already and still people dont understand that YOU SHOULDNT USE a task killer on android system.
http://androidspin.com/2010/05/25/why-you-dont-need-a-task-killer-app-with-android/
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You do if you want to kill tasks. Are you saying no apps are badly written? Google for a bit, or read comments for various apps on the market-place.
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regarding what you said about task killers - there has been hundreds of threads about it already and still people dont understand that YOU SHOULDNT USE a task killer on android system.
http://androidspin.com/2010/05/25/why-you-dont-need-a-task-killer-app-with-android/
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They reason they don't understand it is that your link doesn't explain it. And the blog from google essentially says the OS just kills it when there is no memory left. If the OS can do it we can do it (and some of them do run in the background)
Thanks for all the suggestions and tips, guys. I guess it's not so much an app killer that i want, but rather, a nice looking way of seeing everything that's open. I dunno, I guess my thinking a little too conventional for the Android world. Google listen can't seem to find anything I'm looking for. And Doubletwist, while a great idea, is honestly the buggiest, slowest, something that should be labeled as being in alpha stages that I've ever seen. It is a step in the right direction though. I'll definitely check out doggcatcher. I'm loving the XDA app, btw!
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So far I have been largely impressed by Android OS. I really, really like the level of customization - the importance of which cannot be overstated. I'm not out to start a flamer thread, but there are lots of things that Android, given the proper hardware, does better. However, there are still a couple things that I'm missing before I can declare my Desire fully ready for the stresses of the day.
I'm fairly addicted to podcasts - I listen to then pretty much every day, most of the day while at work. I know there are several apps where I can download podcasts right from the phone as well a few iTunes hop-on software packages. The goal is to get as much like what I can do in iTunes as possible. Say I have an audiobook that gets interrupted or that I want to supplement with some music. Is there a music program that can decipher between normal audio files and ones that are tagged as being audiobooks? Meaning that when you stop it in order to play another audio file, does it pick up where you left off? Also, I have 29 gigs of podcasts that I have not yet listened to. This is where the need for a simple, elegant media program on my desktop comes in. I'd like to be able to individually select which episodes of each podcast I'd like to sync with my Desire or have the option of just syncing everything in that specific podcast that has not yet been listened to. So basically, the same sorting capabilities of iTunes. That's the first thing that is missing.
I know there are hundreds of these task killer programs; some more thorough than others. This is where the iPhone exceeds (now) - but webOS even more so. I've found something that is a push in the right direction; QuickDesk Beta. But I need something like that that can also be brought up in the lock screen. More importantly though, there needs to be some kind of widget that can be placed within QuickDesk that displays all the programs currently open (even if they're in a static state), so you can easily 'x' whichever ones you'd like to close out of. I'm talking actual apps, not background services or mods of that type. WebOS is pretty much the benchmark for mobile task management, so I'd love to come as close to it as possible. This is the second thing that's missing, or maybe that I'm just not aware of yet. Any suggestions / ideas?
I'm running DeFroST 2.0b
One more quick question: I installed DeFroST 2.0b over 2.0a. After I had done this, I reinstalled the baseband version update, cause the echo came back. It's great now, but I'm wondering if there is anything about that procedure that is prone to cause problems. I know you should factory reset / clear cache before a ROM install, but I really didn't want to re-enter all my info / re download all my apps. I understand Google does a backup of your personal information on Froyo, I'm just not sure to what extent. Anyway... just curious.
Thanks to richardtrip and everyone involved in the making of the DeForST ROM - It's great! Definitely a cause worth donating to.
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Please do me and your phone a favour and never use a task killer!!!
Slows down your phone, kills your battery and gives you a unstable android os!
Sent from my HTC Desire
I can pretty confidently say that I won't even both with task killers now. So I will do you that favor.
If you are on your homescreen and keep the home button pressed you either see recently used programs or running programs (don't remember which one of the two it was)
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If you are on your homescreen and keep the home button pressed you either see recently used programs or running programs (don't remember which one of the two it was)
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recently used.
Certainly agree about Doubletwist. Nice idea, not ready.
Multitasking should be nice and easy, on WP7 it isn't. I don't know whose idea it was to make the screenshots so big, it's a waste of space. I think they should've done multitasking the way they do tabs in IE9.
I also noticed that you can only swipe one app at a time in the multitasking view, so if you want the 5th app, you have to swipe 5 times. I find that very inefficient which is not the goal of multitasking. It wastes time...
Where is the little red x in the top right hand corner to close apps in multitasking view. Instead you have to swipe over to the app, open it hit back and then hold back to get back into multitasking view. What a waste of time...
Anyone else think this multitasking blows?
::missing the days of WM6 task manager::
Going to install Mango today. I'll report my impressions then Hope that it's still rocking
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Multitasking should be nice and easy, or WP7 it isn't. I don't know whose idea it was to make the screenshots so big, it's a waste of space. I think they should've done multitasking the way they do tabs in IE9.
I also noticed that you can only swipe one app at a time in the multitasking view, so if you want the 5th app, you have to swipe 5 times. I find that very inefficient which is not the goal of multitasking. It wastes time...
Where is the little red x in the top right hand corner to close apps in multitasking view. Instead you have to swipe over to the app, open it hit back and then hold back to get back into multitasking view. What a waste of time...
Anyone else think this multitasking blows?
::missing the days of WM6 task manager::
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Yeah, the swipe thing kinda sucks. You don't need to close no apps though. Just keep in mind how the so called multitasking works. There is actually NOTHING running in the background. Apps you leave remain in a frozen state until you revive them (or not).
this means that a ringer app must like in w7.0 run and the akku power goes low over night?
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this means that a ringer app must like in w7.0 run and the akku power goes low over night?
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ahlMAR said:
this means that a ringer app must like in w7.0 run and the akku power goes low over night?
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If you are referring to an alarm app, in Mango it would schedule a task / background agent that will be invoked when the necessary time comes. It won't have to run in the background and use any battery.
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Yeah, the swipe thing kinda sucks. You don't need to close no apps though. Just keep in mind how the so called multitasking works. There is actually NOTHING running in the background. Apps you leave remain in a frozen state until you revive them (or not).
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Currently.
That's what's changing. It is real multitasking in mango but the apps need to be built to utilise it (which they're not at the moment, because we've only just started to build for it).
Whoops.
Casey
i keep pressing the start button for multitasking lol
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Currently.
That's what's changing. It is real multitasking in mango but the apps need to be built to utilise it (which they're not at the moment, because we've only just started to build for it).
Casey
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No its not. There is support for background tasks (periodic or scheduled) which have limitations on how often they can run and their CPU usage. There is also some special support for background file transfers and audio, not sure what else.
Your apps will definitely not continue to run in the background.
As someone said above, there is no true background multitasking. Your apps freeze in the background, and they now have the ability to instantly resume (rather than having to restart completely or take a few seconds to resume) when re-programmed to do so.
There are also special tasks that applications can take advantage of, but it is very restricted, and then you also have your background tasks, which is kinda like "services" on a Windows PC. The background tasks sit in the background and can do certain things, and that can be managed from the settings menu, but they too are still rather limited.
Holding "back" on your phone is just a list of recent applications, it's not something that shows you what is running in the background (because nothing is). Because of that, there is no need for a close button since there is nothing to close really.
I agree the way they do it in IE is more elegant. I also would like the ability to swipe away something. I know that since most of the time something isn't actually running, there is no need, but since it only keeps the last few tasks, I could then potentially keep something open all day by swiping away other cards first.
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No its not. There is support for background tasks (periodic or scheduled) which have limitations on how often they can run and their CPU usage. There is also some special support for background file transfers and audio, not sure what else.
Your apps will definitely not continue to run in the background.
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Ah ok. Thanks. Must have gotten mixed up between what we can actually do!
I think it would be better if the swipe could make us roll more than one app at a time. Just like in IE; if you want to go down, really down on the page, just swipe up fast.
Oh crap.. dont know how it's called or how to explain in a decent way.
Anyway, I hate having to swipe one app at a time, and I think there is no need to show "Start" in cards.
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I think it would be better if the swipe could make us roll more than one app at a time. Just like in IE; if you want to go down, really down on the page, just swipe up fast.
Oh crap.. dont know how it's called or how to explain in a decent way.
Anyway, I hate having to swipe one app at a time, and I think there is no need to show "Start" in cards.
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I've noticed that if you swipe really gently, you can get it to scroll across multiple tasks. It seems really sensitive, and maybe that' just a bug. Sometimes it'll go one at a time, and sometimes it'll swipe across 2 or 3 apps with just the right amount of pressure.
Has anyone here played with the HP TouchPad yet? They use a card like system for multi-tasking too and it has some good ideas. To close a task, you flick the card upwards off the screen and it's killed. I think something like this would work well for WP7.
Also, I'm with everyone else who doesn't like how you can't scroll smoothly across several tasks. I wanna be able to flick across the list quickly.
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I think it would be better if the swipe could make us roll more than one app at a time. Just like in IE; if you want to go down, really down on the page, just swipe up fast.
Oh crap.. dont know how it's called or how to explain in a decent way.
Anyway, I hate having to swipe one app at a time, and I think there is no need to show "Start" in cards.
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Also, I'm with everyone else who doesn't like how you can't scroll smoothly across several tasks. I wanna be able to flick across the list quickly.
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I think I found out how to make it scroll multiple tiles consistently. Simply do two swipes very quickly. Once it starts a smooth scroll you can also move back and forth easily without it snapping to each tile.
prjkthack said:
I think I found out how to make it scroll multiple tiles consistently. Simply do two swipes very quickly. Once it starts a smooth scroll you can also move back and forth easily without it snapping to each tile.
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Nice one! Now it got better.
So it's not a bug. It's a feature. Still, I dont like the "Start" card. It's useless.
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I think I found out how to make it scroll multiple tiles consistently. Simply do two swipes very quickly. Once it starts a smooth scroll you can also move back and forth easily without it snapping to each tile.
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Hmm yes that seems to work. It should really be like that all the time though.
Thanks for pointing that out, it's still flawed though. You shouldn't have to make two quick swipes to make it go quickly it should depend on the speed of the swipe.
The cards are also too big, I really hope they change it to the IE tab style which has easily has enough space for the 5 previous tasks we were doing.
Other than that Mango is snappier and everything which is great but they still have a ways to go, their multitasking interface is nothing to be proud of.
I would bet that in the final build (or perhaps sooner) the scrolling through the MT menu will change to only require one swipe as does everything else in the OS.
As far as the style, when I first saw it I was thinking the same thing. When you hold the back button, why not have it look like the tabs in IE with a little "x" in the corner?
Considering it freezes apps, there is no need to really kiil any. But, I do agree that it would serve a good purpose if you didn't want something pushed out of memory and wanted to keep a particular app around for awhile.
Regardless, I like the functionality and thinks it works well as intended.
And, let us remember people, THIS IS SPARTA!!! er... I mean, this is beta.
Things will be fixed, rerendered, optimized further, added, deleted, and so on. So, let's not get in too big a tizzy over what things look like right at this moment. I mean, ya gotta admit, for a beta, this thing is damn good.
I have to say this is the first gameloft game that I really like. The graphics run on high and so far it runs smooth.
Great looking game, but it does stutter/lag often on my Shield (especially when all the cars are on screen) I noticed that rebooting the device before playing helps. Does anyone else have this issue? I am sure that Tegra 4 can run this game easily, so maybe Gameloft needs to properly optimize it
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Great looking game, but it does stutter/lag often on my Shield (especially when all the cars are on screen) I noticed that rebooting the device before playing helps. Does anyone else have this issue? I am sure that Tegra 4 can run this game easily, so maybe Gameloft needs to properly optimize it
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My guess by the sounds of it is that you are unaware that android multitasks and have not ever bothered closing apps in the background.... That would explain why rebooting helps first as that would close background apps which would otherwise cause lag.
I actually blame android poorly labelling the "recent apps" button, it actually shows "running" apps, if you open recent apps and swipe an app to the left or right to remove it from the list it closes it (and a few more like steam, dropbox and facebook also run 24/7 but need closing from task manager). There are also android task killing apps and widgets which close all running apps with the exception of system ones and those you specify in a whitelist with 1 press.
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My guess by the sounds of it is that you are unaware that android multitasks and have not ever bothered closing apps in the background.... That would explain why rebooting helps first as that would close background apps which would otherwise cause lag.
I actually blame android poorly labelling the "recent apps" button, it actually shows "running" apps, if you open recent apps and swipe an app to the left or right to remove it from the list it closes it (and a few more like steam, dropbox and facebook also run 24/7 but need closing from task manager). There are also android task killing apps and widgets which close all running apps with the exception of system ones and those you specify in a whitelist with 1 press.
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Oh trust me, I'm a Android veteran, and know all about killing running task! I do kill all running processes before playing, but I still see some lag. It only seems to run best when the entire Shield is rebooted. I am pretty sure that this is an optimization issue with the game, as I dont have to reboot at all with all the other tegra 4 enhanced games that I have on my Shield.
I just wanted to see if i was the only person having this issue..thanks for replying
Drifting
Is it possible to partially drift with the Nvidia Shield like how you would with your phone? Each time I drift, it doesn't allow you to make a small drift, only large drifts.
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Is it possible to partially drift with the Nvidia Shield like how you would with your phone? Each time I drift, it doesn't allow you to make a small drift, only large drifts.
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What do you mean large drifts?
If you want to stop drifting just hit the "X" button again.
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What do you mean large drifts?
If you want to stop drifting just hit the "X" button again.
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Thanks, but if you played this with your standard phone, you use the gyroscope which allows you to either drift/ turn a little or a lot, when I say large drifts I am not referring to the length, sorry for the confusion. So is there anyway to control the turn while drifting?
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ChrisFirerabbit said:
Thanks, but if you played this with your standard phone, you use the gyroscope which allows you to either drift/ turn a little or a lot, when I say large drifts I am not referring to the length, sorry for the confusion. So is there anyway to control the turn while drifting?
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Oh okay, well I haven't tried it on a phone so I don't know what level of control the gyroscope gives you, but slightly moving the left joystick on the shield gives you control while you're drifting.
I haven't mastered it yet so I still have trouble with it doing what I want it to, but it definitely alters your drift direction.
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Oh okay, well I haven't tried it on a phone so I don't know what level of control the gyroscope gives you, but slightly moving the left joystick on the shield gives you control while you're drifting.
I haven't mastered it yet so I still have trouble with it doing what I want it to, but it definitely alters your drift direction.
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oh ok, thank you
MRCANNADY said:
Great looking game, but it does stutter/lag often on my Shield (especially when all the cars are on screen) I noticed that rebooting the device before playing helps. Does anyone else have this issue? I am sure that Tegra 4 can run this game easily, so maybe Gameloft needs to properly optimize it
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Use a live wallpaper that Uses the Unity engine, it seems to wake up the CPU/GPU after it goes to sleep which causes both to run at only 60% of the specs.
Nvidia said they were going to look into it, in the Nvidia Shield forums, but there is no ETA on when.
I use the "Andromeda Free Live Wallpaper" would love to put a link to the store but just created the account today so I'm restricted for the time being so search on the Google Play store.
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Use a live wallpaper that Uses the Unity engine, it seems to wake up the CPU/GPU after it goes to sleep which causes both to run at only 60% of the specs.
Nvidia said they were going to look into it, in the Nvidia Shield forums, but there is no ETA on when.
I use the "Andromeda Free Live Wallpaper" would love to put a link to the store but just created the account today so I'm restricted for the time being so search on the Google Play store.
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I just saw this tip in the nvidia forums also. Thanks...works like a charm! Very little to no lag now.
I've had a lot of fun with this game as well.
But has anyone noticed any random crashing to homescreen? My first crash was when my battery was getting fairly low, so I was afraid that had something to do with it. But then even after recharging some I got more random crashes. I re-enabled wifi and haven't had a crash since...
That kind of makes me curious what is going on... but I haven't looked into it further yet, so don't mean to raise any alarms.
Throughout all this though it has not corrupted my save data or anything, at least as of yet *knock on wood*. I think it was Asphault 7 that one time I got a phone call in the middle of gameplay and it crashed the game and corrupted my save data >_> I had some backups though, but lost some progress.
~Troop
That's weird. I haven't seen any crashes yet but I haven't played it for extended periods of time yet either.
Really Glad that one good Racing game has the controller support.
Enjoyed playing the game a lot
All games that use onscreen controls should be updated to support joysticks/controlpads either shield/moga/ps3 etc. You know how much better it is to physical controls? Freakin' amazing.
tenchichrono said:
All games that use onscreen controls should be updated to support joysticks/controlpads either shield/moga/ps3 etc. You know how much better it is to physical controls? Freakin' amazing.
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Agree! it all ends up with the developer/publisher for the support.
I dunno if other people feel the same way but don't you hate it that you have to scroll all the way to the left to press the clear all apps button? Is there a way to make that show up on the right instead?
Yes, bad design ...
I've submitted a request to google via settings/about phone/send feedback about this device to move the clear apps button to be placed next to screen shot and select options when you open up the recent screen.
It is annoying when if like me you have the habit of clearing apps down, although I read somewhere that Google would preferer you to not clear recent apps so they load quicker when next opened and that their learning adaptive battery preferences help snooze the apps in the background and learns when you are likely to use them next so it so they are ready for you. I'm sure if I'm wrong I'll be corrected about the info.
I mean, it's pointless having it there lol, it's like they sat down and asked each other, would would be the most inconvenient place to put this!
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I've submitted a request to google via settings/about phone/send feedback about this device to move the clear apps button to be placed next to screen shot and select options when you open up the recent screen.
It is annoying when if like me you have the habit of clearing apps down, although I read somewhere that Google would preferer you to not clear recent apps so they load quicker when next opened and that their learning adaptive battery preferences help snooze the apps in the background and learns when you are likely to use them next so it so they are ready for you. I'm sure if I'm wrong I'll be corrected about the info.
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What you read is apparently true actually. I saw the same answer when searching around.
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What you read is apparently true actually. I saw the same answer when searching around.
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Argh that's good, so I never dreamt about it Thanks for confirming
There is little to no reason to actually clear this list. It may help clear up some RAM, but the phone has so much that it truly does not matter.
Apps will go into suspended state after not being touched after some time.
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There is little to no reason to actually clear this list. It may help clear up some RAM, but the phone has so much that it truly does not matter.
Apps will go into suspended state after not being touched after some time.
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I know this but it's habbit for me and others alike, I just like them to be closed been doing it since I got my very 1st android a million years ago also it's a little OCD to clear things off, for me it is..... I sometimes get frustrated with myself because I'll clear an app that I've just been on and know I'm going back to it but still close it....
Left is weird for me as well
m1ckbr1t said:
I know this but it's habbit for me and others alike, I just like them to be closed been doing it since I got my very 1st android a million years ago also it's a little OCD to clear things off, for me it is..... I sometimes get frustrated with myself because I'll clear an app that I've just been on and know I'm going back to it but still close it....
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This is a bad habit, Google is doing you a favour by making it more difficult.
Clearing the apps will actually make the phone slower and waste more battery. Because it has to load every app from scratch, every time. Every app will take a few seconds longer to open, CPU will be stressed harder, doing tasks it already did a couple hours and would not need to do again if apps were not cleared up.
Obviously the CPU re-doing tasks will consume more battery and the phone will likely die before the end of the day and people will come here and complain about the battery being bad.
Apps being kept in memory is done for a reason and it is the best practice. It's how it's done in every OS, especially Linux.
In iOS, for instance, even if you clear the apps from the list, it won't actually clear everything from memory. and this is the best practice. If the app is misbehaving, go into settings and force kill it. Otherwise, you want the app to be in mem cache.
Do yourself a favour and drop this bad habit.
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Do yourself a favour and drop this bad habit.
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Agree. At first coming from my S8+, I missed clearing recents just out of habit to keep things organized when switching apps. Now however, I'm finding switching apps via swiping left/right on the bottom of the screen on the P6P to be super convenient. I hardly ever even open recents anymore, and if I need to remove a rarely used app from there it's much more practical to remove one with a swipe than all of them. Get out of the bad habit and save yourself some battery and loading time
The only time I ever clear an app from Recents is when a single app is giving me issues.
Agreed, I dropped this habit a while back as it really doesn't serve any purpose to clear them for the aforementioned reasons!