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Ok first off I do not need the whole lecture on Linux and how Android is supposed to work. I have had this phone for almost a year and you can say that all you want, but my results are different. I want a way or program to keep programs from automatically booting and running in the background. I have been using Go Launcher Ex and have Launcher Pro and SPB running in the background when they were never opened. No, I do not want to uninstall them as I have paid for them and like to keep them updating and check on them once in awhile to see the improvements. And that was just an example. There are also plenty of other apps running in the background I just do not need running all the time and automatically, and I will close them and they reload. So no lectures on how your phone is made to run like this, because I notice from my own personal use that when you close more programs the phone runs way smoother with less lag, no matter how it is "supposed" to work. So is there a program or something I can do or use to stop these programs from running automatically until I choose to run them? Please help.
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I don't want to remove them, just keep them from running when they aren't being used. I mean really, if you only use some of them say once a week, do they really need to be taking up RAM making your phone lag everyday. What happened to having control over what is running, it is YOUR phone right?
Can't you just freeze what you want and then unfreeze when you want to us them?
Hey, would that work??? I remember reading that you could freeze apps. What program was that? Interesting... but really, I found a bunch of threads on angry users because we don't have control over what starts. Why can't the program just be there, until you decide to start it?
I use My Backup Pro but I read that Titanium works too. As to why...there is a long list of questions that could follow that intro...we are stuck accepting it.
Yeah, I've heard they want to track us and all that crap. I found a program called "Autostarts" that claims it does what I am looking for. Paid the .94 cents and am about to check it out. Thanks for the idea though. Freezing and unfreezing something just to use it sounds like a pain, just don't want them running for no reason.
Both MyBackUp Pro and Titanium Pro will freeze apps (tried both and like Titanium best because you can see what is frozen in the list and MyBackup does not have this). Either way you must keep USB Debugging checked for them to work properly, but that's no problem. Every once and a while you may notice something not working properly and you have to unfreeze ("Defrost") some apps to stop the force closing if this happens...for instance one of them was preventing me from changing my ringtones (I suspect I froze one of the media apps or music player, etc). Also you can use Titanium to remove apps or bloatware but since it keeps a list of all apps removed (assuming you did a Titanium backup) you can reinstall it thru Titanium.
I have Titanium and LOVE it as a backup. I love the option to individually install and uninstall things. It gives you more choice/power over your device. But I'd hate to have to freeze things just to keep them from running when they shouldn't be. It's amazing with all these programmers and smart people out there, that there isn't one easy solution to this problem.
You could also go against your own rant and learn how to close apps correctly and stop blaming the system. I never have apps re-open, so I don't understand this phenomenon. If you're unwilling to solve your own problem, so am I.
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You could also go against your own rant and learn how to close apps correctly and stop blaming the system. I never have apps re-open, so I don't understand this phenomenon. If you're unwilling to solve your own problem, so am I.
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Let me ask....why does maps or amazon remain open all the time, when I never open them in the first place. But yet there they are...even after a reboot. What you call a "phenomenon" I see as just another day in the life of the Epic. So what do you have running that doesn't allow these apps to open. It certainly has nothing to do with the closing procedure, seeing as I never opened them in the first place
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Dunno, I back or exit out and nothing but basic google services runs in the background with swype, launcherpro, and something else. That's it. I freeze nothing, I app kill nothing.
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You could also go against your own rant and learn how to close apps correctly and stop blaming the system. I never have apps re-open, so I don't understand this phenomenon. If you're unwilling to solve your own problem, so am I.
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It sounds like he's talking about the apps that just start up on their own, not the ones he has opened. The solution is to freeze them or delete them or install a custom ROM that left them out.
Well that was very nice and helpful of you. Either you are very well educated and know something almost no one else seems to know, or you're a complete idiot. I have found numerous threads on this subject and have not found one answer. This is no lazy ass, I cannot Google, and I am not putting out any effort to help myself question. I have done a lot of searching. Task Managers don't work, cause the apps just restart themselves. So if you are a computer God, then why not actually be helpful instead of being a jerk and wasting time posting in this thread. It IS a question and answer thread, I do not believe I am out of line here.
Not trying to be a jerk. You started out by saying you wanted different results without changing your behavior. That may not be possible. I don't know what apps you have running. Deleting an extra launcher won't stop you from downloading it later when you want to use it. Are you using the back button or built in exit button from within the app? What apps are reopening? Exiting an app using the home key will not close it. I need more info to help and less ranting.
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No, I understand the back button exits the app while the home key only "pauses/minimizes" it. And, as others have said, certain apps such as maps start up on their own. I have beautiful widgets, maps, SPB, Launcher Pro, Perfect Task Switcher, etc. etc., all running in the background at boot. It's not about me starting them, they start themselves. And even when you close them, they just restart. Why do we not have the control? There has to be a way. I do have certain apps I would prefer to run in the background, as they are used more frequently, but not just whatever apps feel like running should run on their own. Why should I have to uninstall them. Say maps for instance. It is handy to have, but really how often will I need it. So I want it there for convenience just in case. So why should it be constantly running in the background. It only needs to run every month or two or whatever it may be when I choose to use it. It's not a hard concept, but this seems to be the flaw of Android from what I have read in many forums.
Running in the background is a subjective phrase. Some run a tiny piece so they'll launch quicker or the app data may just be up behind the scene. It doesn't always mean the app is fully running. Words with friends won't close at all. I don't keeo apps that behave like that. One reason some apps stay open has to do with the memory manager. Froyo and gb are more advanced in that department.
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Hi out there
I don't know if I am the only one with this "problem":
I always was wondering, why no (max 1 or 2) apps are active. Finding out by having a look on the stock widget which shows the active/running apps. Wondering why SGW always starts at the main page (weather information) when returning form reading an article at News & Weather-app. Or why I always have to restart opera when receiving or reading an whatsapp in between.
Mostly I'm using the home button.
Problem now is, that I want to upload some photos to synology disc station. I am using the synology app browsing to the desired folder. While selecting the picture to be uploaded SGW switches to picturegalery in order to choose the file. Hitting the file (selecting) SGW returns to initial screen from synology app where you have to give credentials. So the operation is broken and you have to start again and again unable to upload anything. Same when I use webbrowser.
I guess that SGW kills the synology task while in galery. Same that SGW kills News & Weather while reading article. And so on.
Any solution???
I'm running stock rom 2.3.6, rooted, with V6 supercharger at level 6.
Thanks in advance
holydiver
V6 SC will kill apps in RAM.....to recover for active apps!!
Long press on Home key should bring up list of 6 apps by default.....and you should be able to return to any app.
It works for me, even with Tapatalk....I will leave....Tap Home key....do something else on phone....then long press Home.....be back in a sec!!!! .....
I'm baaack!!!!!
Just checked my Gmail and returned here by long press Home and selecting Tapatalk....brought me straight back where I left off.....
That is my experience!!!
level 6??
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long press on home button brings up the last 6 used apps. Does that mean they are still in RAM?
Why does the widget tell me there are no active apps?
Maybe its an bug (sorry feature ) from the synology app!?
holydiver
holydiver said:
long press on home button brings up the last 6 used apps. Does that mean they are still in RAM?
Why does the widget tell me there are no active apps?
Maybe its an bug (sorry feature ) from the synology app!?
holydiver
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It all depends if there is ram available.... if not, they will not be in RAM.....but you should get back to where you were in App.
Android is not Windows.....see this:
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/android
4. Task Management Android multi-tasks differently to a desktop OS such as Windows. This is to make better use of a phone's limited resources such as memory and battery. The part of an Android app that you generally open up and deal with (the graphical user interface, or 'Activities') don't multitask. If you press Home and open something else, the app you leave is frozen in memory and stops getting CPU time. Most apps on Android work this way, unfortunately including the stock browser which won't continue updating when you are away from it. Some apps use special threads of execution called 'Services' which always run in the background but don't interact with the screen. Start playing a song in the music player (or start a streaming radio app like Last FM) and hit Home to go do something else. The player interface (which may include a CPU-hungry equalizer visualization) freezes and won't do anything until you switch back into it. But the thread playing the music keeps running and your music keeps playing. Start playing a game and then hit Home. The game freezes and sits in RAM but doesn't take any CPU. You may read and respond to a text message then hold Home and select the game from the popup (or even open it from a shortcut in the launcher/on your desktop!). The game will resume from where it was. Start playing a game and then hit Home (again). The game freezes and sits in RAM. You can now open the browser and load a big webpage so that the phone runs out of RAM, forcing Android to dump your game from RAM. Later you hit Home to switch back into your game but it will restarts fresh, as though you weren't running it before. A variation on that last one: Some apps periodically save your state so they can return you to that instead of sending you right back to the beginning.
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Also, not sure which version of V6 you are using..... this article is slightly outdated, but worth a read.
http://yagyagaire.blogspot.com/2011/10/v6-super-charger-complete-memory.html?m=1
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hello
My note 2's 2GB of RAM is ****ed up, some apps I don't know about them uses up all the RAM and it makes my phone ****ing slow. It's ****ing pissing me off.
It goes to 357MB then to 1.34GB.
Is there any way to fix this issue?
Thank you.
I don't have ****cking idea why that *****cking problem is *****cking happening,but there's lots of ****cking apps that take a lot of *****cking ram
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I don't have ****cking idea why that *****cking problem is *****cking happening,but there's lots of ****cking apps that take a lot of *****cking ram
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HI ***KING LARIOUS
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please no trolls.
I asked if there's any ****ing solution for this problem. How can i permanently close those running apps. I ****ing force close them and they ****ing starts again.
Can you post a ****ing screen shot or make a ****ing list of the ****ing apps that are ****ing opening so that we can see what they are?
Maybe other people will have the same apps running and know how to shut them off
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Seeing as you're new here, i though i'd be nice to you this first time.
Please, no swearing.
The people who posted in the thread are making fun of you because of the absolutely unneeded swearing and nonsense.
To fix your problem you're going to have to tell us some more about your phone and what you've done.
Is it rooted? If so, what rom and kernel are you running?
Did you try to simply reboot the phone? (Also a good idea to cold boot it, meaning to shut it off, remove the battery, put it back in and boot up).
It's doesn't help what so ever to force close apps that are not misbehaving. The Android system manages this perfectly fine. Only force close an app if there is something wrong with it.
What apps have you installed? Some of them might be taking up alot of RAM and running in the background.
I was nice to you, now please do the same to us.
You came to us asking a question like that, you should be gracious that we're even replying.
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Seeing as you're new here, i though i'd be nice to you this first time.
Please, no swearing.
The people who posted in the thread are making fun of you because of the absolutely unneeded swearing and nonsense.
To fix your problem you're going to have to tell us some more about your phone and what you've done.
Is it rooted? If so, what rom and kernel are you running?
Did you try to simply reboot the phone? (Also a good idea to cold boot it, meaning to shut it off, remove the battery, put it back in and boot up).
It's doesn't help what so ever to force close apps that are not misbehaving. The Android system manages this perfectly fine. Only force close an app if there is something wrong with it.
What apps have you installed? Some of them might be taking up alot of RAM and running in the background.
I was nice to you, now please do the same to us.
You came to us asking a question like that, you should be gracious that we're even replying.
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Sure.
My Samsung Galaxy note 2 is not rooted.
I restart my phone couple of times if the number exceeded.
I have 39 apps downloaded from Google Play.
I was angry because it annoys crap out of me so pardon me.
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Sure.
My Samsung Galaxy note 2 is not rooted.
I restart my phone couple of times if the number exceeded.
I have 39 apps downloaded from Google Play.
I was angry because it annoys crap out of me so pardon me.
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Okay.
If your phone is running slowly and you're not rooted, then it is 99% sure an app problem.
It could be a hardware flaw in your phone, but my guess is app related (If your phone was as slow as it is now, when you got it, it is probably hardware related).
Try uninstalling any unneeded apps, like various tools you downloaded once to try it out, games you dont really play, etc etc.
Try to clear your cache. There are several apps out there that can do it (Some require root, and can clear more caches than non-root ones can, just try a non-root cache cleaner).
After doing that, do a cold boot as i refered to in my last post and see if it is better.
If not, try and go into Settings, Applications, Running Applications and see if there are any major apps that you installed yourself (not the ones that came with the phone) running and try to uninstall the ones taking up the most power, then do a cold boot again and see if it improved.
If nothing works, try and post a list of the apps you have installed on your phone that you installed yourself.
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Okay.
If your phone is running slowly and you're not rooted, then it is 99% sure an app problem.
It could be a hardware flaw in your phone, but my guess is app related (If your phone was as slow as it is now, when you got it, it is probably hardware related).
Try uninstalling any unneeded apps, like various tools you downloaded once to try it out, games you dont really play, etc etc.
Try to clear your cache. There are several apps out there that can do it (Some require root, and can clear more caches than non-root ones can, just try a non-root cache cleaner).
After doing that, do a cold boot as i refered to in my last post and see if it is better.
If not, try and go into Settings, Applications, Running Applications and see if there are any major apps that you installed yourself (not the ones that came with the phone) running and try to uninstall the ones taking up the most power, then do a cold boot again and see if it improved.
If nothing works, try and post a list of the apps you have installed on your phone that you installed yourself.
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I don't think its hardware related. When I got first my Note 2 it was suprisingly fast. So it's probably the apps.
I've cleared all my caches, deleted a lot of unneeded apps and also done the cold boot after that I navigated to Settings>Applications manager> running apps.
I noticed samsung's keyboard took 55mb of ram, google service 20mb. maps 32mb. play store 10mb. settings 39mb 0_0. Those apps that came with the phone took a lot of ram. why is that? is there anyway to decrease the number?
You can use Titanium Backup to freeze or unintstall any apps that aren't needed by the OS. This will prevent them from ever starting up again.
Is the used up ram actually causing you problems? As I understand it android will make use of the ram to help switch apps quicker. So if its high its not a problem.
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there are apps out there that tells you which apps uses the most cpu cycles. i can't recommend one as i don't use them, but might help you pinpoint your problem-app.
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So you want more Ram han? Here is a very simple trick
Go to developer option
Select limit background processes and then select 4 processes...
You will see ram will fall below 1 gb
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As far as I know, it makes my phone laggy when the number is high and the animation when you open a folder seems slow and also for notifications
Is there a way to have ram manager or the phones system itself keep the messages and calendar and contacts always ready to open right away?
Ram manager doesn't do this even though they are on my Whitelist. Also what's the best battery life settings people use?
Thanks!
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Is there a way to have ram manager or the phones system itself keep the messages and calendar and contacts always ready to open right away?
Ram manager doesn't do this even though they are on my Whitelist. Also what's the best battery life settings people use?
Thanks!
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Android today, to me, doesn't need any of that stuff, just don't clean your recent apps list. Next time you wanna open the same app, hold down Home button, pulls up your recent apps. The apps you left open will be there until you remove it. Battery is different for everyone and every ROM/Kernel. This should have been in Q&A for future reference.
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Android today, to me, doesn't need any of that stuff, just don't clean your recent apps list. Next time you wanna open the same app, hold down Home button, pulls up your recent apps. The apps you left open will be there until you remove it. Battery is different for everyone and every ROM/Kernel. This should have been in Q&A for future reference.
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Ok thanks, I kniw about the the recent apps menu but sometimes my apps will close take longer to re open. I was wondering if I can make apps stay open in tbe background and never close
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Ok thanks, I kniw about the the recent apps menu but sometimes my apps will close take longer to re open. I was wondering if I can make apps stay open in tbe background and never close
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Sounds like you have too many apps sucking up ram already, causing lag. Only certain apps stay open, like ones you don't sign out of(Facebook, Twitter, and many more)
This is double edged sword. You keep apps open to make them open quickly and minimize delay but keeping them open hinder battery life. Is it really taking that long to open apps? I would look into why that is rather than figuring out how to keep them open.
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Ok thanks, I kniw about the the recent apps menu but sometimes my apps will close take longer to re open. I was wondering if I can make apps stay open in tbe background and never close
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This is double edged sword. You keep apps open to make them open quickly and minimize delay but keeping them open hinder battery life. Is it really taking that long to open apps? I would look into why that is rather than figuring out how to keep them open.
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No it doesnt take long to open I was just wondering how if thrre was a way
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No it doesnt take long to open I was just wondering how if thrre was a way
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The only thing I can think of is to flash a TW ROM that allows 1 or 2 apps to stay open on one screen, like MSG&CHUBBZ, WICKED SENSATIONS, or MOAR ROM. Most TW based ROMS have this multiwindow feature which will alow you to keep one open, then open another on the same screen if you like.
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The only thing I can think of is to flash a TW ROM that allows 1 or 2 apps to stay open on one screen, like MSG&CHUBBZ, WICKED SENSATIONS, or MOAR ROM. Most TW based ROMS have this multiwindow feature which will alow you to keep one open, then open another on the same screen if you like.
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Ok thanks everyone!
I dunno if other people feel the same way but don't you hate it that you have to scroll all the way to the left to press the clear all apps button? Is there a way to make that show up on the right instead?
Yes, bad design ...
I've submitted a request to google via settings/about phone/send feedback about this device to move the clear apps button to be placed next to screen shot and select options when you open up the recent screen.
It is annoying when if like me you have the habit of clearing apps down, although I read somewhere that Google would preferer you to not clear recent apps so they load quicker when next opened and that their learning adaptive battery preferences help snooze the apps in the background and learns when you are likely to use them next so it so they are ready for you. I'm sure if I'm wrong I'll be corrected about the info.
I mean, it's pointless having it there lol, it's like they sat down and asked each other, would would be the most inconvenient place to put this!
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I've submitted a request to google via settings/about phone/send feedback about this device to move the clear apps button to be placed next to screen shot and select options when you open up the recent screen.
It is annoying when if like me you have the habit of clearing apps down, although I read somewhere that Google would preferer you to not clear recent apps so they load quicker when next opened and that their learning adaptive battery preferences help snooze the apps in the background and learns when you are likely to use them next so it so they are ready for you. I'm sure if I'm wrong I'll be corrected about the info.
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What you read is apparently true actually. I saw the same answer when searching around.
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What you read is apparently true actually. I saw the same answer when searching around.
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Argh that's good, so I never dreamt about it Thanks for confirming
There is little to no reason to actually clear this list. It may help clear up some RAM, but the phone has so much that it truly does not matter.
Apps will go into suspended state after not being touched after some time.
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There is little to no reason to actually clear this list. It may help clear up some RAM, but the phone has so much that it truly does not matter.
Apps will go into suspended state after not being touched after some time.
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I know this but it's habbit for me and others alike, I just like them to be closed been doing it since I got my very 1st android a million years ago also it's a little OCD to clear things off, for me it is..... I sometimes get frustrated with myself because I'll clear an app that I've just been on and know I'm going back to it but still close it....
Left is weird for me as well
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I know this but it's habbit for me and others alike, I just like them to be closed been doing it since I got my very 1st android a million years ago also it's a little OCD to clear things off, for me it is..... I sometimes get frustrated with myself because I'll clear an app that I've just been on and know I'm going back to it but still close it....
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This is a bad habit, Google is doing you a favour by making it more difficult.
Clearing the apps will actually make the phone slower and waste more battery. Because it has to load every app from scratch, every time. Every app will take a few seconds longer to open, CPU will be stressed harder, doing tasks it already did a couple hours and would not need to do again if apps were not cleared up.
Obviously the CPU re-doing tasks will consume more battery and the phone will likely die before the end of the day and people will come here and complain about the battery being bad.
Apps being kept in memory is done for a reason and it is the best practice. It's how it's done in every OS, especially Linux.
In iOS, for instance, even if you clear the apps from the list, it won't actually clear everything from memory. and this is the best practice. If the app is misbehaving, go into settings and force kill it. Otherwise, you want the app to be in mem cache.
Do yourself a favour and drop this bad habit.
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Do yourself a favour and drop this bad habit.
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Agree. At first coming from my S8+, I missed clearing recents just out of habit to keep things organized when switching apps. Now however, I'm finding switching apps via swiping left/right on the bottom of the screen on the P6P to be super convenient. I hardly ever even open recents anymore, and if I need to remove a rarely used app from there it's much more practical to remove one with a swipe than all of them. Get out of the bad habit and save yourself some battery and loading time
The only time I ever clear an app from Recents is when a single app is giving me issues.
Agreed, I dropped this habit a while back as it really doesn't serve any purpose to clear them for the aforementioned reasons!