Saw this on Kickstarter:
"snappgrip: full control of your phone's camera with one hand" (I can't post links, so just search kickstarter for it.)
It is an add-on grip that makes one handed photography easier.
Already contacted the developer, and they are planning a S2 / universal case.
It seems like a great idea, just wanted to share.
Terry
PS: I am not affiliated in any way with this, other than as a backer.
TE
TerryInLeesburg said:
Saw this on Kickstarter:
"snappgrip: full control of your phone's camera with one hand" (I can't post links, so just search kickstarter for it.)
It is an add-on grip that makes one handed photography easier.
Already contacted the developer, and they are planning a S2 / universal case.
It seems like a great idea, just wanted to share.
Terry
PS: I am not affiliated in any way with this, other than as a backer.
TE
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/859748664/snappgrip-full-control-of-your-phones-camera-with
I'm very happy to notice ufficially that sony smartwatch 3 will recive Android Wear 2.0
this is the e-mail text..
Dear Matteo,
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre, regarding your SmartWatch 3.
We can confirm that the Smartwatch 3 will receive Android Wear 2 update. However, Android Wear has been delayed into early 2017.
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Sony Smartwatch 3 will recive Android Wear 2.0?
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This is Great! I just picked up a Sony Smartwatch 3 not too long along.
Sony Smart watch update
Hello. I emailed sony and they told me that they can't confirm whether the sony Smartwatch 3 will get Android wear.
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre.
We appreciate your interest in the android wear 2.0 update unfortunatly we currently do not have confirmation as to which smartware devices will be receiving this.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused.
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Hi. The post I put up earlier shows that Sony can't tell us whether they will update the smartwatch. Could someone find a way to confirm that the watch will be updated so that I could by one
Unfortunately until it's officially confirmed individual emails from various members of customers services are likely to say different things.
Even official posts on Twitter or other social media site still do not guarantee android 2 on the swr50.
It's just a waiting game and fingers crossed...love my watch as it is now and yes aw2 would be nice but I did not buy it with that in mind....
What I also find suspicious is that aw2 is already out in preview mode for other watch phones yet nothing for swr50.
Not a good sign....But enjoy your watch now.
No mention of Sony Smartwatch 3 in list for Wear 2.0.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/22/14057656/google-smartwatch-android-wear-2-0-launch
android central also posted the list, no AW2.0 for SW3..
http://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-smartwatches-will-get-android-wear-20
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oh well, time to save up for something else and move on. It's been great SW3, but it looks like your time on my wrist is almost at an end. Note to self - you're not buying a watch, you're buying a phone accessory, so expect to replace it as often as your phone.
i think they will manage it somehow, why they would confirm it on twitter, support etc.
pawces said:
android central also posted the list, no AW2.0 for SW3..
http://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-smartwatches-will-get-android-wear-20
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oh well, time to save up for something else and move on. It's been great SW3, but it looks like your time on my wrist is almost at an end. Note to self - you're not buying a watch, you're buying a phone accessory, so expect to replace it as often as your phone.
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On one hand. Getting AW2.0 would be good to keep the device alive. BUT... All or most of the AW2.0 Dev Previews were for ROUND devices and the UI looks to be made around that form factor. And the SWr50 is Square... I think AW1.5 better suits SWr50 more that AW2.0.
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On one hand. Getting AW2.0 would be good to keep the device alive. BUT... All or most of the AW2.0 Dev Previews were for ROUND devices and the UI looks to be made around that form factor. And the SWr50 is Square... I think AW1.5 better suits SWr50 more that AW2.0.
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Yea, but square ZW2 are getting it.
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Yea, but square ZW2 are getting it.
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Good point. Also, the sources that told you which devices are getting AW2.0 can't confirm anything... They can only go off what information they have. As Sony hasn't given anything, we just have to wait and see. Them not putting the SWr50 on the list is just lack of information for the time being.
I have written to Sony Support a moment ago and i'll see.
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On one hand. Getting AW2.0 would be good to keep the device alive. BUT... All or most of the AW2.0 Dev Previews were for ROUND devices and the UI looks to be made around that form factor. And the SWr50 is Square... I think AW1.5 better suits SWr50 more that AW2.0.
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No, they added round screen lists, they didn't take square away. Square watches won't have round menus.
Zen 2 and M600 are getting 2.0, anyway.
Well..
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Well..
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Sorry but I didn't get that...
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Sorry but I didn't get that...
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I've just shared sony's reply about update as an attachment. Answer is not telling much anyway..
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I've just shared sony's reply about update as an attachment. Answer is not telling much anyway..
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Yeah, I think it's best to get in contact with the technical department or something because I guess the people in charge of the commercial aspect (twitter/FB) will probably say something like that " Wait for the notification to appear " even tho they don't know much about current or future firmware developing of android wear.
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Yeah, I think it's best to get in contact with the technical department or something because I guess the people in charge of the commercial aspect (twitter/FB) will probably say something like that " Wait for the notification to appear " even tho they don't know much about current or future firmware developing of android wear.
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Exactly
Just to add my thoughts.... The sony z3 had an android 7.0 beta but was never released with sony saying it couldn't because it did not meet googles hardware rules. Specifically support for opengl 3.0 or vulkon. I wonder if its the same for the smartwaches as they will be upgraded to 7.1. I know the sw3 has opengl 2.0 but not sure what each watch on the list has.(Apart from nixon and moto sport have opengl 3.0). Any way if its not that then maybe something similar.
Android wear 2.0
Bonjour
Voici la réponse reçu par Sony France...
Hello everybody,
I am working for some time on a DAC/ADC HiFi Audio Moto Mod/Snap with the good and old headphone jack and capable of delivering DSD64 content without downsampling, for those who like me miss a good quality from Moto Z.
My campaign at Indiegogo is going to get launched in a couple of days and I appreciate your comments.
Please spread the news to your network.
Best
Wow,good news!!
SICK!! This is what was missing on the Moto Z If you do this and you use a decent chip, you just saved me 500$ from buying an X5 3rd gen. What is your intended target date for production?
@OrionTech any news on that kickstarter of yours?
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@OrionTech any news on that kickstarter of yours?
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Hello @karendar,
The project is on its way and the campaign is open at Indiegogo (HiFi Audio Moto Mod Snap for Moto Z phones), to help me raise funds to build it.
I am adjusting the integration of the early prototype with Android apps capable of integrating DACs. Which one do you use?
Also, been working with Arrow Electronics on the design.
And hope to have soon news from Motorola about the partnership to build it.
You can follow the updates via Indiegogo, Facebook or Twitter.
Best
OrionTech said:
Hello @karendar,
The project is on its way and the campaign is open at Indiegogo (HiFi Audio Moto Mod Snap for Moto Z phones), to help me raise funds to build it.
I am adjusting the integration of the early prototype with Android apps capable of integrating DACs. Which one do you use?
Also, been working with Arrow Electronics on the design.
And hope to have soon news from Motorola about the partnership to build it.
You can follow the updates via Indiegogo, Facebook or Twitter.
Best
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Thanks for the response. I saw your indiegogo a few days ago and have been following it, but there's another indiegogo that just opened up for another Hifi dac, so I got confused on who was who. Your indiegogo doesn't have any actual perks for a DAC as opposed to them, so I contributed 9$ to encourage you for the time being.
I'm currently using the Poweramp 3 alpha which does have DAC support and seems to work fine with a Fiio X5 in OTG mode on my Moto Z force... I haven't had many other apps to play around with though.
If you need any help/feedback, keep me posted! I'm eager to see if I can save myself from buying a Fiio X5 3rd gen with a solution like this
Thanks!
Sweet! Can't wait.
Guess this is dead? Wish it was an option. What a great idea.
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Guess this is dead? Wish it was an option. What a great idea.
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Yeah, was pretty dissapointed this didn't see the light of day... It would have been the best of both worlds when it came to DAC/AMP/Phone... I've personally moved on to the LG V30 to get the quad DAC.
First time I'm leading such a thing so mods, if there's a better way to lead people to the right thread, please let me know!
I've started a XZ1 & XZ1 Compact bounty thread for getting a reward pool up for anyone who can find a locked bootloader root method, TA backup & restore method or any other way to root and retain DRM features. Thought it would be great to have the bounty in a single thread for both the normal size XZ1 and XZ1 Compact since both models are very similar and obtaining root usually comes in pairs anyway since the Z1 and Z3 days.
Aside from the XZ1 and XZ1 Compact having great on-paper specs and being very appealing, I'm also fed up that the latest Xperia model where root and retain DRM is possible is the 1 year old XZ!! I'm sure some of you share the same feelings too!
When i get mine i am up for testing.
XZ1Compact is a junk i returned it sorry.
Ok, so.. this is my first time being interested in a Sony device. Long time LG user here, and I'd be all over the V30 if T-Mobile didn't lock the bootloader down. Is the purpose for this bounty solely to retain DRM keys after the bootloader unlock? I see the XZ1 is part of the Sony Open source project where they let you unlock the bootloader. I only want to root this phone for v4a and adaway.
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Is the purpose for this bounty solely to retain DRM keys after the bootloader unlock?
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Your question is answered in the thread the OP linked to, aka the bounty thread.
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Your question is answered in the thread the OP linked to, aka the bounty thread.
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My apologies. I was too vague in my original question. I was hoping for specifics pertaining to this model, the XZ1 Compact. I'm well aware of the proprietary Sony software lost by removing DRM keys. I know after several reviews I've read that the XZ1 does lack a couple of features that it's bigger brother.
Another question. If Sony has this open source platform set up specifically for developers to create ROM's based on this XZ1 Compact, why would Sony hinder the performance and features by not allowing you to keep the DRM keys when unlocking the bootloader in a simple fashion?
Please don't respond if my questions upset you. I've read the posts and I'm posting questions here because I'm genuinely interested in this.
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My apologies. I was too vague in my original question. I was hoping for specifics pertaining to this model, the XZ1 Compact. I'm well aware of the proprietary Sony software lost by removing DRM keys. I know after several reviews I've read that the XZ1 does lack a couple of features that it's bigger brother.
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Can you elaborate on what you want to know? You said you are already aware of feature loss, so what sort of specifics are you talking about?
As you said, the XZ1 Compact does not have any additional features that the bigger brother XZ1 doesn't, hence whatever DRM-reliant features are lost in the absence of DRM keys on the XZ1, the same goes for the XZ1 Compact.
Sony has never really published a list of features that will be broken, they're somewhat (purposefully) vague on this part.
The bounty thread mentions some of the most prominent features that are impacted, I urge you to take a look. As I had mentioned in my previous reply, it also answers your original question regarding the scope and goal of the bounty.
Another question. If Sony has this open source platform set up specifically for developers to create ROM's based on this XZ1 Compact, why would Sony hinder the performance and features by not allowing you to keep the DRM keys when unlocking the bootloader in a simple fashion?
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That is a question only Sony knows the answer to.
However, from a purely speculative viewpoint, it seems they think that binding some of their proprietary features to DRM keys is a way of protecting their IP.
Your phone won't actually be rendered useless after losing your DRM keys per se, you just lose the ability to utilize some of their more "advanced" toys like low light noise reduction algorithms and X-Reality, which are definitely nice to have but not "essential" features.
For AOSP ROMs, for example, Sony still provides bare bone driver support for the display and camera - perfectly functional, just not exceptional.
They opened up their phones to developers in the name of mutual benefit, but of course we know that it's more for their own sake than ours.
As for the lack of DRM-bound features in an unlocked open world, I suppose it's just their way of saying those assets are off limits, and to discourage average consumers from messing with their phones and driving up the cost and complexity of support.
Then again, just think for a minute. This is Sony we're talking about. Sony history is practically made up of anti-consumer-friendly practices with locked down, proprietary everything.
Just be grateful they're even doing this open devices thing, citizen scum dear users, and pray they don't hinder it any further.
Then again, just think for a minute. This is Sony we're talking about. Sony history is practically made up of anti-consumer-friendly practices with locked down, proprietary everything.
Just be grateful they're even doing this open devices thing, citizen scum dear users, and pray they don't hinder it any further.
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Yeah, I completely agree. I only blame Apple for this. They've always been supreme dictator over iOS and I think larger companies like Samsung with their locked bootloaders on carrier phones and Verizon - which has no reason to lock theirs down are following suit because they can.
Ahh well, I appreciate your response. I just read an article the other day - the top three phones that are Dev friendly are the OnePlus 5T, Google Pixel and Huawei Mate 9. I'd go that route, but they are all larger phones. Guess I'm just hoping for something that doesn't exist (still!)
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Yeah, I completely agree. I only blame Apple for this. They've always been supreme dictator over iOS and I think larger companies like Samsung with their locked bootloaders on carrier phones and Verizon - which has no reason to lock theirs down are following suit because they can.
Ahh well, I appreciate your response. I just read an article the other day - the top three phones that are Dev friendly are the OnePlus 5T, Google Pixel and Huawei Mate 9. I'd go that route, but they are all larger phones. Guess I'm just hoping for something that doesn't exist (still!)
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I had exactly your doubts but...well its not KitKat time anymore, Android Oreo is pretty much a complete OS to me...and yeah not having adblock sucks but at least I can still use AdGuard...I'm not a teenager anymore and so I wouldn't have time to mess with my phone anyway, at least not like with my previous Nexus 5...I bought xz1 Compact and have no regrets, seriously....at this point, if not for adblock, I don't have any other reason to want to root my phone...I guess I'm getting old lol
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I had exactly your doubts but...well its not KitKat time anymore, Android Oreo is pretty much a complete OS to me...and yeah not having adblock sucks but at least I can still use AdGuard...I'm not a teenager anymore and so I wouldn't have time to mess with my phone anyway, at least not like with my previous Nexus 5...I bought xz1 Compact and have no regrets, seriously....at this point, if not for adblock, I don't have any other reason to want to root my phone...I guess I'm getting old lol
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So.. I just turned 40 this year. I've been playing around with Android phones now since the HTC Eris back in 2009 (yikes!!). I travel a lot for work and carry two pair of headphones with me. One pair of IEM's and one pair of large wireless cans. The IEM's are mostly used out of convenience and sound quality.. cans when I don't want something stuck in my ear. Anyway, the point to my rambling, is back in the Samsung days, I was introduced to something called "Voodoo Sound". It was created by a dev on XDA to manipulate the hardware settings (particularly the hardware gain) for users audio. It was amazing. The point of it was to boost the volume so you could CUT frequencies on an EQ and still keep the NORMAL volume of the phone. I see so many people on here complaining to other users about why they want to boost the volume, when that's not what they are doing at all. I fell in love and held on to old phones to keep from giving that feature up. Then, it slowly vanished and Viper4Android was released by a bunch of Chinese devs. I eventually switched over. I can't live without v4a. It makes up for the shortcomings in my IEM's.
So the problem is, with all these locked bootloader phones, I can't put v4a on the phone. I usually just keep using the older phone anyway until I can't stand the sluggish performance anymore and then start hunting for a new phone. The monkey wrench this go around is that work makes me carry an iphone as well as my personal.. so I'm trying to find an all around good phone that's compact. I got real excited about this XZ1 Compact until I saw some users complaining about battery life. I am extremely hard phone a phone battery. The 3300mah battery in the ginormous V20 I have now will last me about 6 hours while traveling on the plane, through airports, etc.
My dream phone would be a utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put v4a (and prob adaway). It's crazy to me how Sony is the only manufacturer that dabbles with small phones now. Sammy tried it with the S5 mini, etc years ago, not nothing since.
Having since reading this thread is just another roadblock keeping me from going out to my local Best Buy today and just buying this phone and being done with it. I'd be worried about losing these DRM keys that effect camera performance. I love taking photos while traveling of the things I see and sharing them with family.
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Having since reading this thread is just another roadblock keeping me from going out to my local Best Buy today and just buying this phone and being done with it. I'd be worried about losing these DRM keys that effect camera performance. I love taking photos while traveling of the things I see and sharing them with family.
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It really is a douche move by Sony to render the camera completely useless after unlocking the bootloader.
Before the X-series line, at least with my own experience with the Z-series, UB affects the camera by disabling low-light noise reduction, but doesn't cause it to only take green pictures, it was still functional.
Well, the potentially good news is that a dev on XDA has created a DRM patch for the XZ Premium, which has similar platform configurations to the XZ1 and XZ1 Compact, and the dev mentioned in the bounty thread that he's working on bringing compatibility to the XZ1 family.
If you'd like, you can support him and make a donation pledge to incentivize him and/or other devs to find a solution.
Alternatively, the very same dev who created a DRM patch for the XZP also found some third party camera apps that works, presumably before he developed the fix.
See here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/how-to/tip-camera-fix-unlocked-rooted-sony-t3647333
Or, you can just flash a AOSP build.
Or, as you are contemplating, just skip Xperias altogether. It's a world of compromises, unfortunately.
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My dream phone would be a utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put v4a (and prob adaway). It's crazy to me how Sony is the only manufacturer that dabbles with small phones now. Sammy tried it with the S5 mini, etc years ago, not nothing since.
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Nobody gets that!!!! I wanted the Z2 3 years ago but it went extinct before i bought it and now i finally bought xz1 for the same reason!! utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put some other stuff. Only Sony is doing that and i get so many looks for my new phone -
Sony?? why?? wait sony still makes phones??
I am like Duh!!!
I have been using moto forever and i loved the original RAZR that came in 2011 - best size and form factor ever!!
Next to that i only liked the brick shape of sony, xz1 seems so nice for that
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My dream phone would be a utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put v4a (and prob adaway). It's crazy to me how Sony is the only manufacturer that dabbles with small phones now. Sammy tried it with the S5 mini, etc years ago, not nothing since.
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Nobody gets that!!!! I wanted the Z2 3 years ago but it went extinct before i bought it and now i finally bought xz1 for the same reason!! utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put some other stuff. Only Sony is doing that and i get so many looks for my new phone -
Sony?? why?? wait sony still makes phones??
I am like Duh!!!
I have been using moto forever and i loved the original RAZR that came in 2011 - best size and form factor ever!!
Next to that i only liked the brick shape of sony, xz1 seems so nice for that
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Nobody gets that!!!! I wanted the Z2 3 years ago but it went extinct before i bought it and now i finally bought xz1 for the same reason!! utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put some other stuff. Only Sony is doing that and i get so many looks for my new phone -
Sony?? why?? wait sony still makes phones??
I am like Duh!!!
I have been using moto forever and i loved the original RAZR that came in 2011 - best size and form factor ever!!
Next to that i only liked the brick shape of sony, xz1 seems so nice for that
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These are my only reasons for going to iOS + jailbreaks when the iPhone 6 came out. Apple is the only one who comes out with flagship compacts year after year, Sony tries but fails with camera every year :/