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Lapdocks for Everybody! (almost)

In case you haven't heard there is a kickstarter for a product called Casetop. In short it is a lapdock style dock for numerous phones from Acer to ZTE. I personally have sold my Nexus One with some nice goodies to help fund this as well as offered my experience and skills with similar types of setups. Here is a vid of it in action.
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Think of it as a netbook with free upgrades for the life of the Casetop!​
In addition to my support, fellow xda dev zacthespack of LinuxOnAndroid fame has expressed his support of the project as well. A result of this is that I will reexamine Android/Linux hybrid setups and give my findings to the Linux-On-Android team should it become a reality. So if you ever wanted an Asus Padfone or something similar but could not afford it, this may be the way to go. Now you may think that the projected asking price is a little too high but price out an 11.1 HDMI display, BT keyboard and massive battery and the Casedock starts to look pretty inexpensive. Compared to the Padfone it a steal.
I will also examine hw level mods to improve the dock as well and give those findings to the Livi-Design team. This is not about fame or money for me but getting tech convergence into the mainstream and breathing life back into a stagnating industry.

This is awesome. Once I replace my car in the next two weeks and get some money I so buying into this. Thanks for the info!
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Thanks guys!
Good news everyone! Livi Design is run by a Linux Nerd! Open sauce everything! The only thing I'm keeping to myself is the specific designs for the Casetop main body. EVERYTHING else will be given away I have already posted the Frontbar files on thingiverse, and I'll be posted the specs to interface with the main body (where the ports are when the Casetop is closed, etc)
So, basically what we need is more eyes but I think we're starting to get some more traction again...we shall see.
Thanks again!
John
javskies said:
This is awesome. Once I replace my car in the next two weeks and get some money I so buying into this. Thanks for the info!
Sent from my Optimus G using xda premium
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Lokifish Marz said:
I will also examine hw level mods to improve the dock as well and give those findings to the Livi-Design team. This is not about fame or money for me but getting tech convergence into the mainstream and breathing life back into a stagnating industry.
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Let's get the minuum keyboard on the Moto 360

EVERYBODY get on and email them!! Make sure they know there's a demand! Maybe if enough people request this it will happen. Here's their email.
[email protected]
I emailed minuum and this was their response.
Thanks for letting us know! Unfortunately, based on current development priorities it seems unlikely we will have a finished version for the Moto 360 anytime soon.
If you haven't already, I recommend following us on your preferred social media network(Google+,Twitter,Facebook) and/or signing up for ourmailing listin order to receive the latest Minuum news, including any plans for a Moto 360 release.
All the best,

I joined the mailing list a couple days ago and put 360 as my watch. If demand is high enough, it will come.

I sent them an email as well saying a huge part of XDA is requesting it, etc.

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I also emailed them last week..
"Right now we are very focused on our iOS release but we hope to resume development on our circular version soon. I recommend and signing up for our Smart Watch Mailing List(http://minuum.us4.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ca045cd04e580f1a87d5b9c63&id=3f537d0efb) to keep up to date with all Minuum for smart watches related news."
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So be patient. It'll come. iOS just has a bigger user base than Moto 360, so that gets priority

Wim!! said:
A post in a different topic:
So be patient. It'll come. iOS just has a bigger user base than Moto 360, so that gets priority
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I had email conversation with Prem Business Dev @ Minuum. Since there was no demand the project was put on hold. Now they are working on a working beta.

furiousgtz said:
I had email conversation with Prem Business Dev @ Minuum. Since there was no demand the project was put on hold. Now they are working on a working beta.
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Hell ya!

furiousgtz said:
I had email conversation with Prem Business Dev @ Minuum. Since there was no demand the project was put on hold. Now they are working on a working beta.
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Are you sure? This is an email I just got from Prem:
"Hi Omar,
Thanks for the input and we will definitely take it into consideration.
You would be surprised at the development resources necessary to completely rebuild Minuum for a circular watch face. Though we would love to just fully develop every cool permutation of Minuum, we are constrained by the resources available to us.
To be honest, the only realistic way we might be able to justify doing this is if the Android Wear A. officially opened up their platform to third-party keyboards and B. if a circular watch manufacturer engaged us in some sort of partnership.
Though this could happen, I don't see this being likely in the very near future.
Best,"
I replied back to him asking for a beta if possible or something that can at least be temporarily functional for the time being until greater resources are available.

opasha said:
Are you sure? This is an email I just got from Prem:
"Hi Omar,
Thanks for the input and we will definitely take it into consideration.
You would be surprised at the development resources necessary to completely rebuild Minuum for a circular watch face. Though we would love to just fully develop every cool permutation of Minuum, we are constrained by the resources available to us.
To be honest, the only realistic way we might be able to justify doing this is if the Android Wear A. officially opened up their platform to third-party keyboards and B. if a circular watch manufacturer engaged us in some sort of partnership.
Though this could happen, I don't see this being likely in the very near future.
Best,"
I replied back to him asking for a beta if possible or something that can at least be temporarily functional for the time being until greater resources are available.
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Yes. From our conversion, it looks like they have been working on the Moto 360 and the keyboard is currently in development. I would like close to finish product to try because I have a feeling this might drain our battery.

furiousgtz said:
Yes. From our conversion, it looks like they have been working on the Moto 360 and the keyboard is currently in development. I would like close to finish product to try because I have a feeling this might drain our battery.
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It has almost no effect to battery life on my g watch. If that means anything. Couldn't be that much different

Guitarboarder28 said:
It has almost no effect to battery life on my g watch. If that means anything. Couldn't be that much different
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Agreed. Keyboards are not supposed to drain battery. Their coding is not that vast where it requires so much memory to be used. Someone got the STOCK android keyboard to come up by accident if you saw in the minuum thread. Maybe we can utilize that in the mean time? Anyone know how to enable it? I know adb has to be used. I'm assuming Minuum used the stock apk and built upon that.

Upgrade to Android Wear 2.0

I'm very happy to notice ufficially that sony smartwatch 3 will recive Android Wear 2.0
this is the e-mail text..
Dear Matteo,
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre, regarding your SmartWatch 3.
We can confirm that the Smartwatch 3 will receive Android Wear 2 update. However, Android Wear has been delayed into early 2017.
We hope that you find this information useful.
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Sony Smartwatch 3 will recive Android Wear 2.0?

That is marvellous happiness good news
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This is Great! I just picked up a Sony Smartwatch 3 not too long along.

Sony Smart watch update
Hello. I emailed sony and they told me that they can't confirm whether the sony Smartwatch 3 will get Android wear.
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre.
We appreciate your interest in the android wear 2.0 update unfortunatly we currently do not have confirmation as to which smartware devices will be receiving this.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused.
If you require any further assistance then please do not hesitate to contact us again. Please use the below link for all our contact information.
Please be aware that should you not respond within 5 days of this email your query will be automatically closed. Any further communications will not reach our support and a new query will need to be raised.
Kind Regards,
Catherine
Sony Xperia UK Customer Services
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Hi. The post I put up earlier shows that Sony can't tell us whether they will update the smartwatch. Could someone find a way to confirm that the watch will be updated so that I could by one

Unfortunately until it's officially confirmed individual emails from various members of customers services are likely to say different things.
Even official posts on Twitter or other social media site still do not guarantee android 2 on the swr50.
It's just a waiting game and fingers crossed...love my watch as it is now and yes aw2 would be nice but I did not buy it with that in mind....
What I also find suspicious is that aw2 is already out in preview mode for other watch phones yet nothing for swr50.
Not a good sign....But enjoy your watch now.

No mention of Sony Smartwatch 3 in list for Wear 2.0.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/22/14057656/google-smartwatch-android-wear-2-0-launch

android central also posted the list, no AW2.0 for SW3..
http://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-smartwatches-will-get-android-wear-20
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oh well, time to save up for something else and move on. It's been great SW3, but it looks like your time on my wrist is almost at an end. Note to self - you're not buying a watch, you're buying a phone accessory, so expect to replace it as often as your phone.

i think they will manage it somehow, why they would confirm it on twitter, support etc.

pawces said:
android central also posted the list, no AW2.0 for SW3..
http://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-smartwatches-will-get-android-wear-20
:crying:
oh well, time to save up for something else and move on. It's been great SW3, but it looks like your time on my wrist is almost at an end. Note to self - you're not buying a watch, you're buying a phone accessory, so expect to replace it as often as your phone.
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On one hand. Getting AW2.0 would be good to keep the device alive. BUT... All or most of the AW2.0 Dev Previews were for ROUND devices and the UI looks to be made around that form factor. And the SWr50 is Square... I think AW1.5 better suits SWr50 more that AW2.0.

EximusCode said:
On one hand. Getting AW2.0 would be good to keep the device alive. BUT... All or most of the AW2.0 Dev Previews were for ROUND devices and the UI looks to be made around that form factor. And the SWr50 is Square... I think AW1.5 better suits SWr50 more that AW2.0.
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Yea, but square ZW2 are getting it.

nexus_ctOS said:
Yea, but square ZW2 are getting it.
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Good point. Also, the sources that told you which devices are getting AW2.0 can't confirm anything... They can only go off what information they have. As Sony hasn't given anything, we just have to wait and see. Them not putting the SWr50 on the list is just lack of information for the time being.

I have written to Sony Support a moment ago and i'll see.

EximusCode said:
On one hand. Getting AW2.0 would be good to keep the device alive. BUT... All or most of the AW2.0 Dev Previews were for ROUND devices and the UI looks to be made around that form factor. And the SWr50 is Square... I think AW1.5 better suits SWr50 more that AW2.0.
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No, they added round screen lists, they didn't take square away. Square watches won't have round menus.
Zen 2 and M600 are getting 2.0, anyway.

Well..

adakaya1994 said:
Well..
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Sorry but I didn't get that...

Menomis said:
Sorry but I didn't get that...
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I've just shared sony's reply about update as an attachment. Answer is not telling much anyway..

adakaya1994 said:
I've just shared sony's reply about update as an attachment. Answer is not telling much anyway..
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Yeah, I think it's best to get in contact with the technical department or something because I guess the people in charge of the commercial aspect (twitter/FB) will probably say something like that " Wait for the notification to appear " even tho they don't know much about current or future firmware developing of android wear.

Menomis said:
Yeah, I think it's best to get in contact with the technical department or something because I guess the people in charge of the commercial aspect (twitter/FB) will probably say something like that " Wait for the notification to appear " even tho they don't know much about current or future firmware developing of android wear.
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Exactly

Just to add my thoughts.... The sony z3 had an android 7.0 beta but was never released with sony saying it couldn't because it did not meet googles hardware rules. Specifically support for opengl 3.0 or vulkon. I wonder if its the same for the smartwaches as they will be upgraded to 7.1. I know the sw3 has opengl 2.0 but not sure what each watch on the list has.(Apart from nixon and moto sport have opengl 3.0). Any way if its not that then maybe something similar.

Android wear 2.0
Bonjour
Voici la réponse reçu par Sony France...

Lens-mod for moto z

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This is great.
I myself even once tried to make a holster carrier that I put filters on mobile.
One question: How am I from Serbia could get to this

drdekzar said:
This is great.
I myself even once tried to make a holster carrier that I put filters on mobile.
One question: How am I from Serbia could get to this
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Petition to carry WearOS 2 to SW3

Hello everyone,
I want to make a request if someone can wear Wear OS 2 to our Sony Smartwatch 3.
I have been watching the advances of Pdesire and I am sure that it is a project that can be very interesting for many people.
Many people have SW3 yet and smartwatches like LG with similar hardware have been able to have WearOS 2 without problems.
I know it is hard work, but it is a project that would give a new life to our smartwaches.
We could talk to Pdesire to facilitate the progress he made and continue.
It is not an obligation, I only write in case some developer is interested, since it would make us very happy to the community that we still use it.
Thank you very much in advance.

+1

+1 I am still using it as my daily driver... I'd even toss in some money if spent transparently and I'd beta test for sure.

Too late guys, pdesire project is dead since a year.
Sony stop dev for this watch, sources are obsolete.
And smartwatch 3 does not have the features required by google to support wear 2

Yeah i hate this.. I'm looking for Roms or that for the SW3 cause i love my watch i have various original straps and i wouldn't like stop using it but is kinda obsolete... I tried the Fitwear software too and it doesn't have the google apps so i don't like it..
I'm even thinking about getting a Lg G watch R they are arround 50€ secondhand.. only to experience Android Wear 2 cause SW3 is so dead... :'(