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I recently tried the Graphic ly comic reader app in the Windows Phone Marketplace. Hoping to find a comic reader as good as droid comic viewer I found myself very very disappointed. The controls are shoddy, pinch to zoom is flakey and you have to zoom all the way out to turn the page. This is a far cry from the original video that was shown to consumers.
I understand that newly released products are no always perfect so I figured I would share my concerns with the developer. Their response was shocking and disappointing.
We would like to improve our WP7 app much more in the future, but I
will be straight with you: due to the low sales of the windows 7
phones we have put the improvement of the app lower on our priority
list than the continual improvement of our other apps.
In the meantime: please check out our adobe air application and our
new web application at:*http://graphicly.com/
Any comics that you buy in any of our applications can be read on any
of our other applications. *Your graphicly login should work on any of
them.
Thanks
-******
graphicly
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Now I know business is business but to release a bad product in the first place is unacceptable especially when the app merely needs some tuning. Due to the lack of planned future support I can only suggest that you guys stay away. Here is hoping that robot comics releases one on WinPho 7.
That is such a load of happy horse****. There are many apps where the developers are frequently updating and providing excellent communications between themselves and the users.
When WP7 takes off - and it will - I hope that many others are aware of the developer's attitude and shut them out. Let the money go to another comic app.
I was very dissapointed with the graphic.ly app, especially compared to what we've seen before. This attitude isn't going to get them any customers. If they're not going to put any effort in the phone app, I don't see any point in buying comics from them or getting their adobe air app.
Shame, i was hovering over it recently....
Thanks for the heads up. I like to stay away from those types of attitudes of devs and updates/support. "EA ruined a good brand after Westwood"
If it's not important enough for them, guess it's not important enough for me to use.
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I recently tried the Graphic ly comic reader app in the Windows Phone Marketplace. Hoping to find a comic reader as good as droid comic viewer I found myself very very disappointed. The controls are shoddy, pinch to zoom is flakey and you have to zoom all the way out to turn the page. This is a far cry from the original video that was shown to consumers.
I understand that newly released products are no always perfect so I figured I would share my concerns with the developer. Their response was shocking and disappointing.
Now I know business is business but to release a bad product in the first place is unacceptable especially when the app merely needs some tuning. Due to the lack of planned future support I can only suggest that you guys stay away. Here is hoping that robot comics releases one on WinPho 7.
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That's depressing. Low WP7 sales volume not good. Hopefully this app dev is just a WP7 hater.
Considering that, at least in the US, folk generally wait until their account is due for a subsidized upgrade before getting a new phone (mine just happened to drop in late November ), it makes sense that sales for WP7 haven't exploded yet. I could see holding off on making an app until WP7 grows in market share, but to release a shoddy app, charge for it, and then not support it just because it's not a cash cow yet is simply horrid customer relations. Seeing as the potential dollar is apparently all that matters to these jokers, I'll be sure and speak with my wallet, and mark this one off of the potential to-buy list.
Hilarious. TBQH.
SWYPED from my SUPASONIC
Due to the low sales of Windows Phone 7 ???
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How would they know this when no one else seems to have this info yet? Perhaps they are basing it on the low sales of their crappy app?
iirc i read some developers are complaining because they have no way to know how much they are selling, and microsoft will start paying in february... so how does this guy know that they are not doing ok?
i call bul****
installed it just to rate it poorly and uninstall it. If you are not going to support your work then don't release it in the marketplace.
OP, I would forward that email to MS support so they know the dev isn't willing to support their app.
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installed it just to rate it poorly and uninstall it. If you are not going to support your work then don't release it in the marketplace.
OP, I would forward that email to MS support so they know the dev isn't willing to support their app.
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I concur. That's a damn good idea.
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How would they know this when no one else seems to have this info yet? Perhaps they are basing it on the low sales of their crappy app?
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Exactly what I was going to post.
Lol.
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On a more positive note, I have contacted Robot Comics, the developer of Droid comic viewer from android. I used thier app right before I went to WP7 and it was very intuitive and easy to use in portrait and landscape. It also supported locally added comics.
After emailing I recieved some very good news.
Thanks Jose! Good news: a WP7 version is in our roadmap.
Best,
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ROBOT COMICS
Comics for Android, iPhone/iPod touch, iPad, Kindle & more
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I am not trying to come across as anyone of importance but I love WP7 and would personally like to see it succeed so I figured the best I can do is let the developers know that they have a potential customer. Also does anyone know how I can get in contact with MS support?
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On a more positive note, I have contacted Robot Comics, the developer of Droid comic viewer from android. I used thier app right before I went to WP7 and it was very intuitive and easy to use in portrait and landscape. It also supported locally added comics.
After emailing I recieved some very good news.
I am not trying to come across as anyone of importance but I love WP7 and would personally like to see it succeed so I figured the best I can do is let the developers know that they have a potential customer. Also does anyone know how I can get in contact with MS support?
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http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsphone7/threads
Alex
Sorry about that message from Graphicly - it was wrong.
Hi,
Im Micah, CEO of Graphicly. I am unsure of who would provide you that message, that we are not supporting the Win7 Phone application, but it is wrong.
We continue to develop and maintain the applications that our community desire.
The WP7 app that we put out was our v1. We are working to improve the reading experience and other aspects of the application, as we know its it not perfect yet.
Of the applications we have, our Adobe AIR application has been around the longest and has the most development hours into it.
As the WP7 phone continues to grow, we will continue to develop against it.
If you have any questions, or want to discuss this further, I can be reached directly at 720-248-8499 or via email at [email protected] (GTALK too).
Again, I apologize for the confusion, I will make sure that everyone on the Graphicly team understands our product roadmap.
micah
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Hi,
Im Micah, CEO of Graphicly. I am unsure of who would provide you that message, that we are not supporting the Win7 Phone application, but it is wrong.
We continue to develop and maintain the applications that our community desire.
The WP7 app that we put out was our v1. We are working to improve the reading experience and other aspects of the application, as we know its it not perfect yet.
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Hopefully someone from XDA can validate, but if this is indeed true I thank you for clearing things up Its nice to see brands out there connecting with their customer and stepping up to the bat like this.
Hopefully we'll see the app improved! You could always open it up on CodePlex and let XDA hackers have at it!
It is indeed me - How would you like to verify it? I can give you my mom's phone number... How about this - we have promo codes enabled in the AIR app. Use "techcrunch" (no quotes) and get a free comic. We used it for an old techcrunch article, and I think its still alive. Then when you use the WP7 phone, it will be in there, and you can give me solid feedback on the mistakes we made.
Tell me more about CodePlex. I would be happy to let the community at it. We are doing something similar with our Win7 app. Building out APIs that are secure and can be built on is a personal passion of mine.
micah
micahb said:
Hi,
Im Micah, CEO of Graphicly. I am unsure of who would provide you that message, that we are not supporting the Win7 Phone application, but it is wrong.
We continue to develop and maintain the applications that our community desire.
The WP7 app that we put out was our v1. We are working to improve the reading experience and other aspects of the application, as we know its it not perfect yet.
Of the applications we have, our Adobe AIR application has been around the longest and has the most development hours into it.
As the WP7 phone continues to grow, we will continue to develop against it.
If you have any questions, or want to discuss this further, I can be reached directly at 720-248-8499 or via email at [email protected] (GTALK too).
Again, I apologize for the confusion, I will make sure that everyone on the Graphicly team understands our product roadmap.
micah
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I did not want to post the name but originally I wrote the email in reply to the email I received about you guys releasing a Google web app to this emai "[email protected]"
I received a reply back from a Audrey Zarr stating what I posted. I sent her a polite email expressing my dismay with that type of business attitude and never got a reply back. I certainly wasn't trying to slander your company but knew it would be best to share this info on the web.
I understand that this is a v1 app and I would have been perfectly happy with a "we are working to improve this app" type of answer. Instead I was given the previously posted information. Currently your app is sitting at 1 star, I would hope you guys would want to improve that. Best of luck on your next release.
yeah... [email protected] is the reply email on our newsletter. Audrey is one of our engineers, and is tasked with answering questions about bugs, issues, feature requests, etc.
Your question is quite valid, and in some ways, her response (we are a small company, and we have to focus on the products our community want) is correct. Except the part about us abandoning development on the WP7 app.
A couple of other points (really just FYI). The video from the MIX conference was a proof of concept. We were asked to show off what Deep Zoom would look like in our reader, and so we did. As the months passed and the WP7 software progressed, it became clear that we wouldnt be able to have deep zoom on the finished app.
Other issues: The dev phone we had was a samsung, which is not even one of the release phones. It made things like having pinch/zoom work properly really tough.
So, do we want to make the app better? Of course we do. We want all of our apps to be solid and work at a high level. I believe that the WP7 platform has potential.
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yeah... [email protected] is the reply email on our newsletter. Audrey is one of our engineers, and is tasked with answering questions about bugs, issues, feature requests, etc.
Your question is quite valid, and in some ways, her response (we are a small company, and we have to focus on the products our community want) is correct. Except the part about us abandoning development on the WP7 app.
A couple of other points (really just FYI). The video from the MIX conference was a proof of concept. We were asked to show off what Deep Zoom would look like in our reader, and so we did. As the months passed and the WP7 software progressed, it became clear that we wouldnt be able to have deep zoom on the finished app.
Other issues: The dev phone we had was a samsung, which is not even one of the release phones. It made things like having pinch/zoom work properly really tough.
So, do we want to make the app better? Of course we do. We want all of our apps to be solid and work at a high level. I believe that the WP7 platform has potential.
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I understand that there were time constraints but phone operating systems as of recent seems to lean on their marketplace for success. A bunch of half baked apps won't appeal to anyone.(see palm) That was my main reason for reaching out. I also understand focusing on what the market wants, Microsoft has deep pockets and this OS will eventually be pretty successful. I will spend my money and time on apps that were well made and supported from the get go. As a vendor of comics I am sure your business relies on repeat business.
on this post http://wmpoweruser.com/two-windows-phone-7-updates-coming-before-mid-year/, it seems that the "january" update is coming out at either late february or march: "Just wanted to let you know that the article regarding "two updates’ for WP7 is incorrect, partially. There will be indeed two updates, but CDMA is coming as part of the first update. This is due out late Feb / Early March. The reason the update is so late is due to the CDMA support."
so it seems that this'll be coming out likely on march. sucks! The longer MS delays this update, the more their platform could potentially suffer.
Till we get an offical word from CDMA providers, it does not mean anything. Thanks for the post but, it's kind of what they have been saying for a few weeks now.
You'll see CDMA phones as well as the Copy and paste on the same day..
DavidinCT said:
Till we get an offical word from CDMA providers, it does not mean anything. Thanks for the post but, it's kind of what they have been saying for a few weeks now.
You'll see CDMA phones as well as the Copy and paste on the same day..
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Don't you mean "official word from MSFT"?
In any case, I'm happy enough to wait for copy and paste or any other functional updates. I'm not too happy about having to continually wait for bugfixes though, they need to start getting these out as and when they're fixed.
I wonder what's so difficult and time-consuming to implement CDMA support on a platform ?
WhyBe said:
I wonder what's so difficult and time-consuming to implement CDMA support on a platform ?
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I have scratched my head raw over that and other things MS is doing...erm...not doing...with WP7. I have the idea they are kind of gun shy. They have the best mobile OS skeleton ever created and are terrified they may screw it up some minor way. So they are tippy-toeing as though walking on eggs with WP7 integration.
Patience running thin
This is a big mistake on the part of MS. Waiting for CDMA???? They have an obligation to their early adopters before supporting CDMA, IMHO. The issues with SD cards on Samsung Focus devices is no trivial issue and waiting 2 months to solve this is unacceptable. They need to get their heads on straight and start presenting a logical and believable issues and features update path to the market. They may be the 300 pound gorilla in the room, but there are a whole bunch of other gorillas who have been in this room for much longer. This is absurd and nonsensical.
OMG WE HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH LONGER FOR SUPPORT ON CDMA (which quite frankly sucks) and copy and paste (which I'm sure very few will use) on our OS that is just as close as any other to perfect? man that sucks, I dont know what I'll do... oh wait, I'll go play some original xbox live titles and use my zunepass while watching netflix all seamlessly. Duh! I understand that the verizon people are upset and whatever but I mean CDMA shouldve been dead long ago anyway...
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OMG WE HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH LONGER FOR SUPPORT ON CDMA (which quite frankly sucks) and copy and paste (which I'm sure very few will use) on our OS that is just as close as any other to perfect? man that sucks, I dont know what I'll do... oh wait, I'll go play some original xbox live titles and use my zunepass while watching netflix all seamlessly. Duh! I understand that the verizon people are upset and whatever but I mean CDMA shouldve been dead long ago anyway...
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I agree with most of that, and I don't think anyone is really saying they suck for taking their time getting CDMA support. Heck, I don't even think most people are that bothered about Cut'n'Paste (or any other added functionality) takes a little longer. What I, and reading comments on other websites - most people - have a problem with is their unwillingness to supply hotfixes as and when they have been patched and tested.
I hate bringing up the camera, yet again, but they touted the dedicated camera button as a killer feature - and for me, it is, I tend to use the camera lots - but having the camera settings revert to sucky mode every time means the whole feature is dead. By the time you've fiddled around in the settings to get a good photo, the moment has passed and that great photo you were gonna take turns into a blurfest of someone's back. Not delivering a fix for this by now is outrageous. Being told there will be no update (and by update I really mean bugfixes) until March is even worse. Being told we have to wait until March when their publically available information first stated January is friggin unforgiveable if you ask me.
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I agree with most of that, and I don't think anyone is really saying they suck for taking their time getting CDMA support. Heck, I don't even think most people are that bothered about Cut'n'Paste (or any other added functionality) takes a little longer. What I, and reading comments on other websites - most people - have a problem with is their unwillingness to supply hotfixes as and when they have been patched and tested.
I hate bringing up the camera, yet again, but they touted the dedicated camera button as a killer feature - and for me, it is, I tend to use the camera lots - but having the camera settings revert to sucky mode every time means the whole feature is dead. By the time you've fiddled around in the settings to get a good photo, the moment has passed and that great photo you were gonna take turns into a blurfest of someone's back. Not delivering a fix for this by now is outrageous. Being told there will be no update (and by update I really mean bugfixes) until March is even worse. Being told we have to wait until March when their publically available information first stated January is friggin unforgiveable if you ask me.
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What I do is set my HD7 aside, for a time in the future when WP7 will be actually real and useful, and grab hold of my Android phone and use all the needed and desired features WP7 doesn't offer and be happy. Pictures are a breeze to take...with anything other than my HD7.
WhyBe said:
I wonder what's so difficult and time-consuming to implement CDMA support on a platform ?
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Drivers for different chipset probably.
Earned
I have been the staunchest defender of WP7 and MS, and I will continue to be but this type of inaction in the face of real issues (I don't give a rats rear end about C&P) makes it very tough. My own feeling is that this tortoiselike approach is going to earn MS few friends in the market. This is not the Windows desktop market. Although I have to say, having auto update set on my Windows XP, I get regular hot fixes sent automatically to my laptop. Shouldn't we expect the same or better in this face paced market?
Look, if some of these issues are allowed to fester for 2 more months, MS has earned all of the negative feedback they have asked for. This is a new OS for goodness sake, you want to put your best foot forward especially in a market served by vendors who have mature or maturing competitive products. If you can't, you want to appear to be as responsive as you can so missing features and real problems become non-issues. In other words, who cares, MS will fix it immediately.
This is unacceptable and anyone looking at this objectively must feel the same.
Agreed
neoxphuse said:
small updates, one every 2 weeks should be sufficient. i've had my for over a month now.
they need to implement faster. sometimes i don't understand. as the previous poster says, really? saving camera settings? come on.
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There is no excuse for this and other issues. AT&T and Samsung sell SDHC cards as accessories for the Samsung Focus. There are serious issues with these cards and several threads in these forums address those. No Flash support is a real issue. Many sites I visit regularly I can no longer view animations, something I could do with WM 6.5.X custom ROMs. Come on now, if the chefs customizing for WM 6.5.x can provide this, why can't MS? I am not going to go on. These are ussues and not missing features. How real is multi-tasking, who knows. How real are the three issues I mentioned above - very real!!! I went to the noaa.gov site to look at animated radar maps, no go. I tried to buy my daughter an ecard from Hallmark and tried to view the cards before buying - no go. This is rediculous. I am waiting for the telltale signs of sdhc card problems to begin popping up as I add more data. What kind of experience is this, MS. You want my vote on this and your sincerity in fixing these issues? I don't think so.
Flash is Adobe product, nothing Microsoft can do to speed up the flash player development from Adobe (which outsourced all its devs to India).
foxbat121 said:
Flash is Adobe product, nothing Microsoft can do to speed up the flash player development from Adobe (which outsourced all its devs to India).
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actually this isn't entirely true. whilst adobe flash is not microsoft's product as stated, it is up to MS on how the implementation is done. and MS has acknowledged that they are working closely with adobe to implement flash into windows phone without breaking it's integrity or hindering performance. hence for the august/september release of it.
MartyLK said:
What I do is set my HD7 aside, for a time in the future when WP7 will be actually real and useful, and grab hold of my Android phone and use all the needed and desired features WP7 doesn't offer and be happy. Pictures are a breeze to take...with anything other than my HD7.
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You do that... and remember to let us know in a few months when you've finished customising and hacking it so you can actually do something useful on it.
This is worrying. Looks like they were really really unready when releasing WP7.
This delay - if true - is really annoying.
Because some things on WP7 are idiotic and should be improved ASAP.
Camera not remembering settings is a joke. But I also think c&p should be here earlier.
But what is also worrying is how late will be the next update? When most of the countries will be supported? What about Bing?
Because all of the rumour I read is c&p. OK we need it.
But in fact looking as a whole, in most countries WP7 is still a cripppled product. I have no native letters in keyboard, no language support, can't buy Marketplace stuff etc.
Basically it is ridiculous. I see nowhere any sign of change.
With all the sympathy I don't imagine waiting a year or more for that, and considering amount of work which has to be done by MS... Looks like a bad JOKE.
I start to think that the first update will be decisive factor.
Call me weird, but I love the fact that camera resets itself to default settings, it's the best way to make quick shots and be sure the result will be more or less decent.
As regards update delay, you never know what's happening. They may have found a bug in their update system or whatever.
Just so you guys know, MS is now promoting the behaviour of the camera not saving settings as a FEATURE, clearly listed in their how-to on pictures; http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/pictures/take-a-picture-or-record-a-video.aspx. So I wouldnt necessarily expect a fix anytime soon.
MartyLK said:
What I do is set my HD7 aside, for a time in the future when WP7 will be actually real and useful, and grab hold of my Android phone and use all the needed and desired features WP7 doesn't offer and be happy. Pictures are a breeze to take...with anything other than my HD7.
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Thanks that was really helpful
Joking aside, I actually like the way all my settings pop back to the defaults each time I take a new round of photos. I use the default settings 99% of the time and get pretty good results. If I set the camera for, I dunno, sepia, for one session, the last thing I want is to then quickly take an important pic later on, only for it to come out bloody sepia again, just because my last shoot was sepia.
The default settings are fine for those quick point-n-shoot moments, the moments where the dedicated camera button really helps capture the shot before its gone.
I for one think Microsoft should leave things as they are.
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Just so you guys know, MS is now promoting the behaviour of the camera not saving settings as a FEATURE, clearly listed in their how-to on pictures; http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/pictures/take-a-picture-or-record-a-video.aspx. So I wouldnt necessarily expect a fix anytime soon.
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and Ballmer would use his favorite phrase: " it's not a bug, it's a feature!" xD... like who cares if nobody like it... =P Anyway the default mode is the best for many different conditions but it should have at least "save" option or avutosave and one button "default".
So microsoft releasing their second online survey on the experience or lack of it on windows phone 7
So rather than ranting here it would be better to send the feedback to MS directly
So heres the link
http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/480470/e01f3a84faf0
Sweet! Gave 'em a piece of me ol' mind.
MartyLK said:
Sweet! Gave 'em a piece of me ol' mind.
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Me too.
I'm fairly forgiving when it comes to Microsoft, but this takes the cake for sure. I urge everyone to rip'em a new one on this survey and I bet you we won't see a 90% plus satisfactory rating next time they release any numbers.
^ wanna make a bet on it
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^ wanna make a bet on it
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LOL
I actually don't think they would manufacture numbers. I am confident that the numbers they reported earlier were real. What will happen now is that they'll simply leave the satisfactory rating out of the press release
evolutionqy7 said:
So microsoft releasing their second online survey on the experience or lack of it on windows phone 7
So rather than ranting here it would be better to send the feedback to MS directly
So heres the link
http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/480470/e01f3a84faf0
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You sure this a new one? The copyright date is 2010 and it has the same questions as the other one
bennyj71 said:
You sure this a new one? The copyright date is 2010 and it has the same questions as the other one
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Ah sure people discover new things over time. And it still contains what would you change and your favorite feature texts box
It has a few changes in it though
i personally don't even think this is an MS survey... wouldn't they use their own systems not some third party to take a survey?
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i personally don't even think this is an MS survey... wouldn't they use their own systems not some third party to take a survey?
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Nope, it's official. Been tweeted by various MSFT employes/teams for a while now. You should probably use this Uri though.
thanks for the link. Biggest gripe is the delays on the updates. When they announced wp7, they promised an aggressive update schedule that would get to all phones around the same time. Still no pre- nodo updates in the usa and apparently nodo has been finished by MS since december and still not released....
Other than that, I do love my phone, just give me the updates you have promised.
And how about updating IE separate of the OS so it doesn't get the carrier run around.
Is it survey from MS ?
If it from MS, here we go..
Did it......!
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I too, ragged about the updates.
I like the phone, but the updates need to come faster. Maybe that is what the ill-fated update to help the update process is supposed to be -- making things easier.
Let's hope so.
The real problem is these sites which incessantly get our hopes up because they want to one-up each other and get the "word" (which turns out to be poppycock) out and announce that they have learned (guessed, or completely fabricated is more like it) the actual update time. Then all us users hope its true and actually get pissed when it isn't.
They are all brainwashers! Believe none of them unless they refer to a Microsoft URL.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7!
-e
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I too, ragged about the updates.
I like the phone, but the updates need to come faster. Maybe that is what the ill-fated update to help the update process is supposed to be -- making things easier.
Let's hope so.
The real problem is these sites which incessantly get our hopes up because they want to one-up each other and get the "word" (which turns out to be poppycock) out and announce that they have learned (guessed, or completely fabricated is more like it) the actual update time. Then all us users hope its true and actually get pissed when it isn't.
They are all brainwashers! Believe none of them unless they refer to a Microsoft URL.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7!
-e
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Remember the infamous link to the Microsoft URL referring to the "january update"? It's all based on real information.
I just wanted to share a video of the Chameleon Launcher. Overall the Launcher is nice but in its Beta form it is limited in wallpaper and widgets. Couple points listed below but watch the video to see in action
Only Chameleon Widgets Allowed (Limited Right Now 5)
No Folder Support
No Apps Shortcuts in the Main Screen
Works in Landscape and Portrait
Home dock selected based on Time of Day, Location, and/or Connected Network
Overall Appealing and Smooth Design
I feel it has great potential
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUI2oPNqBW4&hd=1
I just got an email from the Chameleon team saying that I should be receiving instructions on how to activate my pre-order of the Chameleon launcher this week. It's different from any other launcher that I've seen and I'm really excited to finally be able to load it up on my N7.
Just got my beta invite.
Activated and launched.
So far I like it. It will take some getting used.
Definitely has some great potential.
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I personally didn't like it much. Too limited ATM, but it has some great potential.
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I personally didn't like it much. Too limited ATM, but it has some great potential.
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will wait for the official pack then purchase.
So Far so Good
I got my invite and install today and I can gladly say that I am pleased with it! For a pre-beta I only had it crash once or twice while pushing it through a lot. It has so much potential and is going to get so very great! I would say by mid-September this will be complete and ready for a full release. My only problem with it right now is that it is a little odd having only 6 spots on a 7in device for my widgets (other users, you will understand). But my N7 is rooted and Parandroid is looking good, so with more time and tablet ui really expanding I can't wait to force the app into a larger dpi! That should give us more options!
Cheers,
Vanka
Just installed it and played around with it for a bit. It's too buggy and crashes all the time. And every time it crashes, my widgets mess up so I have to redo them.
Twitter widget only let's you read them or click links in tweets. Can't reply or do anything. Email widget only shows NEW email instead of all email.
I'm sure they'll iron out the kinks.
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Wraith91 said:
I just got an email from the Chameleon team saying that I should be receiving instructions on how to activate my pre-order of the Chameleon launcher this week. It's different from any other launcher that I've seen and I'm really excited to finally be able to load it up on my N7.
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Same here. I'll give it a shot once I get the the activation email, but I don't expect much since it's in beta. However I hope they frequently update, I'd be happy to see improvements every few days.
as stated above, not much use at the moment, but has potential
Where, exactly, is the potential benefit you guys are seeing beyond already available launchers and modifications?
Just looks to me like they figured out how to get $10 out of people for something they could do for infinitely less and about the same time commitment.
The beta launcher is nice,.. but i dont want to buy 8$ for a beta launcher
dakkie said:
The beta launcher is nice,.. but i dont want to buy 8$ for a beta launcher
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Unlike Minecraft, which costs 7 bucks and has been in beta for about a year now, teknision stated the official version of Chameleon will be released in late Sept. So backers and preorders are getting the beta a month early. I have a feeling they are going to charge more once it's officially released.
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Where, exactly, is the potential benefit you guys are seeing beyond already available launchers and modifications?
Just looks to me like they figured out how to get $10 out of people for something they could do for infinitely less and about the same time commitment.
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I kind of view the potential like Google Now. Which learns basic things and aggregates some information that it thinks useful for you, whether it be baseball, directions getting home, or the weather. If they can effectively achieve a user interface that can evolve to your day, and present the information that matters most to you on the homescreen, it could be really neat. Right now it doesn't really show that and is limited.
The other thing that really interested me and they showed in one of their concept demo but it seems was removed (anyone confirm?) that you could have multiple user profiles and have a login screen. Which especially on a tablet that is used by myself and others, I would love to have. The other thing they showed is to stream media from your tablet to your tv, but while this is streaming you can still use your tablet, the streaming is in the background. Again it seems this feature is not going to be included, but perhaps enough friendly :angel: nudges from the community can put them back on track
arrjaytea said:
Where, exactly, is the potential benefit you guys are seeing beyond already available launchers and modifications?
Just looks to me like they figured out how to get $10 out of people for something they could do for infinitely less and about the same time commitment.
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THe widgets are HTML5. So if you can code HTML, you can make a widget for it when the API is released. People who haven't developed for Android in the past will be able to develop widgets for this without having to know Android code. Plus with the way the app and widgets are designed, you won't have those funky size widgets that don't fill the space, so you end up with the edges of the widgets not matcng up and it doesn't look too good.
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arrjaytea said:
Where, exactly, is the potential benefit you guys are seeing beyond already available launchers and modifications?
Just looks to me like they figured out how to get $10 out of people for something they could do for infinitely less and about the same time commitment.
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sleeplessninja said:
I kind of view the potential like Google Now. Which learns basic things and aggregates some information that it thinks useful for you, whether it be baseball, directions getting home, or the weather. If they can effectively achieve a user interface that can evolve to your day, and present the information that matters most to you on the homescreen, it could be really neat. Right now it doesn't really show that and is limited.
The other thing that really interested me and they showed in one of their concept demo but it seems was removed (anyone confirm?) that you could have multiple user profiles and have a login screen. Which especially on a tablet that is used by myself and others, I would love to have. The other thing they showed is to stream media from your tablet to your tv, but while this is streaming you can still use your tablet, the streaming is in the background. Again it seems this feature is not going to be included, but perhaps enough friendly :angel: nudges from the community can put them back on track
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You can have multiple screens that the app can automatically switch to depending on various factors. Like you can have a morning screen, ten when you go to work, it can switch to a work screen. There was never multiple "profiles" unless that is what you consider a profile to be.
I'm very happy to notice ufficially that sony smartwatch 3 will recive Android Wear 2.0
this is the e-mail text..
Dear Matteo,
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre, regarding your SmartWatch 3.
We can confirm that the Smartwatch 3 will receive Android Wear 2 update. However, Android Wear has been delayed into early 2017.
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Sony Smartwatch 3 will recive Android Wear 2.0?
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This is Great! I just picked up a Sony Smartwatch 3 not too long along.
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Hello. I emailed sony and they told me that they can't confirm whether the sony Smartwatch 3 will get Android wear.
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Hi. The post I put up earlier shows that Sony can't tell us whether they will update the smartwatch. Could someone find a way to confirm that the watch will be updated so that I could by one
Unfortunately until it's officially confirmed individual emails from various members of customers services are likely to say different things.
Even official posts on Twitter or other social media site still do not guarantee android 2 on the swr50.
It's just a waiting game and fingers crossed...love my watch as it is now and yes aw2 would be nice but I did not buy it with that in mind....
What I also find suspicious is that aw2 is already out in preview mode for other watch phones yet nothing for swr50.
Not a good sign....But enjoy your watch now.
No mention of Sony Smartwatch 3 in list for Wear 2.0.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/22/14057656/google-smartwatch-android-wear-2-0-launch
android central also posted the list, no AW2.0 for SW3..
http://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-smartwatches-will-get-android-wear-20
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oh well, time to save up for something else and move on. It's been great SW3, but it looks like your time on my wrist is almost at an end. Note to self - you're not buying a watch, you're buying a phone accessory, so expect to replace it as often as your phone.
i think they will manage it somehow, why they would confirm it on twitter, support etc.
pawces said:
android central also posted the list, no AW2.0 for SW3..
http://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-smartwatches-will-get-android-wear-20
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oh well, time to save up for something else and move on. It's been great SW3, but it looks like your time on my wrist is almost at an end. Note to self - you're not buying a watch, you're buying a phone accessory, so expect to replace it as often as your phone.
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On one hand. Getting AW2.0 would be good to keep the device alive. BUT... All or most of the AW2.0 Dev Previews were for ROUND devices and the UI looks to be made around that form factor. And the SWr50 is Square... I think AW1.5 better suits SWr50 more that AW2.0.
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On one hand. Getting AW2.0 would be good to keep the device alive. BUT... All or most of the AW2.0 Dev Previews were for ROUND devices and the UI looks to be made around that form factor. And the SWr50 is Square... I think AW1.5 better suits SWr50 more that AW2.0.
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Yea, but square ZW2 are getting it.
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Yea, but square ZW2 are getting it.
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Good point. Also, the sources that told you which devices are getting AW2.0 can't confirm anything... They can only go off what information they have. As Sony hasn't given anything, we just have to wait and see. Them not putting the SWr50 on the list is just lack of information for the time being.
I have written to Sony Support a moment ago and i'll see.
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On one hand. Getting AW2.0 would be good to keep the device alive. BUT... All or most of the AW2.0 Dev Previews were for ROUND devices and the UI looks to be made around that form factor. And the SWr50 is Square... I think AW1.5 better suits SWr50 more that AW2.0.
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No, they added round screen lists, they didn't take square away. Square watches won't have round menus.
Zen 2 and M600 are getting 2.0, anyway.
Well..
adakaya1994 said:
Well..
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Sorry but I didn't get that...
Menomis said:
Sorry but I didn't get that...
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I've just shared sony's reply about update as an attachment. Answer is not telling much anyway..
adakaya1994 said:
I've just shared sony's reply about update as an attachment. Answer is not telling much anyway..
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Yeah, I think it's best to get in contact with the technical department or something because I guess the people in charge of the commercial aspect (twitter/FB) will probably say something like that " Wait for the notification to appear " even tho they don't know much about current or future firmware developing of android wear.
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Yeah, I think it's best to get in contact with the technical department or something because I guess the people in charge of the commercial aspect (twitter/FB) will probably say something like that " Wait for the notification to appear " even tho they don't know much about current or future firmware developing of android wear.
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Exactly
Just to add my thoughts.... The sony z3 had an android 7.0 beta but was never released with sony saying it couldn't because it did not meet googles hardware rules. Specifically support for opengl 3.0 or vulkon. I wonder if its the same for the smartwaches as they will be upgraded to 7.1. I know the sw3 has opengl 2.0 but not sure what each watch on the list has.(Apart from nixon and moto sport have opengl 3.0). Any way if its not that then maybe something similar.
Android wear 2.0
Bonjour
Voici la réponse reçu par Sony France...