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hmmm i wonder why samsung didn´t let us to have full access to Samsung Apps....i find it is cool to have 2 markets to all samsung android users especially the Galaxy S...sometimes i find Samsung Apps quite cool and of course it is an advantege for use to make us special than other android user...o yeahhh...btw it is just my thought!!! feel free to share your opinions...maybe if lots of us agree with me...sooner or later we can make Samsung give us full access to their Market!!!!
if u are talking about samsung kies.. yes i agree with you. i would totaly like to install apps from samsung kies app store.. find it more easy to use and so many cool apps.! sometimes i wonder why other samsung phones like samsung wave benefith of this. when SGS I9000 its a better -phone .
Because the Galaxy S is an Android phone, it can't run apps made for other types of phones. Samsung Apps is for Bada (Eg: Wave) and other Samsung phones.
Android has far more apps for it than those other phones anyway.
Just wondering if any xda developers would be willing to do and Android port to the samsung wave if a bounty was available for it?
The Wave and Wave II have almost identical hardware however the Wave II has a 3.7 SLCD (vs the Wave I's 3.3 SAMOLED although they both have the same resolution)
And both devices are very similar in terms of hardware to the rest of the Samsung galaxy family.
So any one interested?
and could this be done on wave s525 too ?
Possible, but the device is quite low end hardware and the OS is lightweight enough to work on it.
There's a thread over at Samsung Wave Forums. I believe they're working on it, but at the moment it is not available.
There is supposedly some Bada Wave Project over on Samsung Wave forums however they are asking for money and have yet to show results and it doesn't sound like anything real is happening. If a real Android port were to happen it would have to come from some of the talent here at XDA.
I have been watching the guy, hes not capable of doing it, i am almost certain of it. I have not seen one iota of proof that he has the first notion where to start.
We would be willing to start up a bounty and collect money for somebody here to actually get a working port. I am all for expanding Bada but having out options open is always nice.
Also some people may also be willing to donate a Wave (some people i have come across have 2 or 3 for some reason)
i hope we would have custom ROMS for our wave soon
I can See Custom ROM's coming to Bada soon, but an Android Port, due to Low End Hardware as stated above wouldn't be the easiest of tasks, It's not porting Froyo from HTC Desire HD to HTC HD2 ( which are like dramaticly twin hardwares ) ... if a port it is to be done, they would have a Kernel that fits the Resources need to the decide and thn it would have to be Hard Coded... and seriously, that's not something to be done by our Fine Xda Geniuses but by Multi Millionaire companies ( such as samsung lol ), it would be just too much work, but custom ROM completely doable since an SDK is already out there
Just my opinion
Ok thats sounds reasonable, i think you may be right any way. I look forward to seeing what enhancements are made to bada over the coming months.
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I can See Custom ROM's coming to Bada soon, but an Android Port, due to Low End Hardware as stated above wouldn't be the easiest of tasks, It's not porting Froyo from HTC Desire HD to HTC HD2 ( which are like dramaticly twin hardwares ) ... if a port it is to be done, they would have a Kernel that fits the Resources need to the decide and thn it would have to be Hard Coded... and seriously, that's not something to be done by our Fine Xda Geniuses but by Multi Millionaire companies ( such as samsung lol ), it would be just too much work, but custom ROM completely doable since an SDK is already out there
Just my opinion
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I can't understand how you are telling that the Wave s8500 & Wave II s8530 have low-end hardware.
1 ghz. processor with 512 MB RAM. How could be that low-end ?
Its hardware is much powerful than the Galaxy 3 & Optimus One.
I'm sure that Android can be ported on it & no it won't require some big corporation to do that. Android is open source for anyone to modify & use.
I didn't get to understand either, as far as I remember, Samsung Wave has the same processor as iPhone4, same graphics as Galaxy S (and better than iPhone4, like we all know) and 512MB of RAM memory... =P
I like android..
But,bada is very cool
have read it many a times..but i dont know what it is..
can anyone tell what is "custom ROMS" exactly??
there is the Wave 2 and Wave 2 pro as well the Wave 725 which are different than the Wave and Wave II, They could handle an Android Port but it would be a little slow id imagine, (although considering the sheer speed of my G1 maybe not) The Wave and Wave II could definitely handle and Android port.
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have read it many a times..but i dont know what it is..
can anyone tell what is "custom ROMS" exactly??
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Custom roms is like a whole new bunch of settings and looks of ur os.. Same os but with more optimizations and different UI and stuff
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there is the Wave 2 and Wave 2 pro as well the Wave 725 which are different than the Wave and Wave II, They could handle an Android Port but it would be a little slow id imagine, (although considering the sheer speed of my G1 maybe not) The Wave and Wave II could definitely handle and Android port.
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Even the Samsung Galaxy Spica managed to run Android 2.3 (Gingerbread), why wouldn't our Waves run it?
We 'just' need to find a way to replace Wave's bootloader with a different one, which is the most difficult part of porting Android to Wave, and then everything's gonna be possible !
Yeah if we where to figure out how exactally to get the boot loader on the wave out of the picture then we would have no problem porting android, heck i have the spec sheet here i could have a working build done up in a day from source!
Clockworkmod wanna give this a try for a free wave and some money??
clearly there is more demand for android on wave than anything else.....looking at the number of replies and stuff......
Android has already been ported to devices running other os like iPhone (iOS), HTC HD2 (WM 6.1) & Nokia N900 (Maemo). So I am pretty sure that it cam be ported to Wave too.
I can clearly see the lack of interest in the developers.
There are more users of Wave than that of N900, so why shouldn't it be ported to Wave ?
i think its just the ppl from badafroums that are participating in this.. where are other ppl??
I may be way out of line here and if so I apologize - however coming from the Galaxy Nexus to the Galaxy Note 3 I'm mostly pretty happy except with certain aspects of Samsungs software stupidity that I can't seem to get rid of. I've been using the GEL and its amazing but I want to get back to "stock android" as much as possible. This means getting rid of the assnine Gingerbread-era settings menus, dialers, people app and other apps that look like they were plucked from my Droid X from 3 years ago.
Am I being unreasonable when I look at the available ROM's on the T-mo section and see that there aren't any kitkat ROMs available yet? Is there a development hurdle for the Galaxy devices that makes it impossible to make a AOSP-based ROM? (As if it needs to be said, I'm not a developer).
I love the hardware and the S-pen functionality (why I bought it), but I need to rid myself of the 90's era UI that samsung has foisted on us. Am I missing a ROM out there that can fulfill my needs?
I don't think there is anything aosp that can offer what tw had to offer when it comes to s pen functionality.
I had the note 2 before this and was running paranoid ROM which didn't have the cool s pen features.
What I've used the most is the pen window feature. Taking a quick note or using the calc has been handy.
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Defenestratus said:
I may be way out of line here and if so I apologize - however coming from the Galaxy Nexus to the Galaxy Note 3 I'm mostly pretty happy except with certain aspects of Samsungs software stupidity that I can't seem to get rid of. I've been using the GEL and its amazing but I want to get back to "stock android" as much as possible. This means getting rid of the assnine Gingerbread-era settings menus, dialers, people app and other apps that look like they were plucked from my Droid X from 3 years ago.
Am I being unreasonable when I look at the available ROM's on the T-mo section and see that there aren't any kitkat ROMs available yet? Is there a development hurdle for the Galaxy devices that makes it impossible to make a AOSP-based ROM? (As if it needs to be said, I'm not a developer).
I love the hardware and the S-pen functionality (why I bought it), but I need to rid myself of the 90's era UI that samsung has foisted on us. Am I missing a ROM out there that can fulfill my needs?
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We all feel your pain brother.
I have owned 3 Samsung Galaxy devices before this one and all have had AOSP/AOKP/CM10.2
For some reason or another, a developer not made a bare bone AOSP rom.
Which we all want.
Believe me when I say, we all know touchwiz is getting annoying.
My current setup is Stock Deodexed Debloated with the AOSP theme found in the "Themes and Apps" section, also with the Kit Kat Launcher.
I downloaded all of the Nexus 5 apps (Calendar, Camera, Gallery, Clock, etc. And deleted the Touchwiz ones.
This is as close as we can get for now .
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Is there no official cm13? 12.1 stopped months ago.
It only depends on if someone- anyone- is willing to be the maintainer for a device branch for it to be an "official" cm build. As long as they follow cm's policies and whatnot. I don't think many hobbyist developers have the tablet. What makes it more confusing is the "Tab S" really encompasses at least 5 variants (the 8.5" and 10.5" each offered in Wi-Fi only, LTE and US vs international versions) ... if not a few more variations. Edit: I just checked on Sammobile.com and there are 13 devices called Tab S. That's why Samsung is ridiculuous with how many models they spit out each year. Sometimes like 35+ different phone models in one year. It's silly but I digress.
And then you have to have the certain proprietary bits and pieces that may be required for the tablet to retain all of its features (bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPS, sensors, modem, NFC, fingerprint reader, ANT radio, CPU, GPU, etc.) If you don't have all of those bits all you end up with is an official piece of s.
I don't know if we have the right proprietary bits and pieces for Android M to warrant an official CM13. Since Android M just dropped for the Galaxy Tab S series as we speak it could be a while off before its code is released... and then you've got to hope someone is interested in maintaining a device they may or may not personally own.
Seriously I accidently (and stupidly) checked the G920 forums original android dev section and the blowup of AOSP based ROMs is just getting cruel as I sit on a crippled TW base :/.
Same SoC, yet no love
I feel your pain bro.
Same here :/ and I just got the phone , going to wait till next year for the s9/s9 plus
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Same here :/ and I just got the phone , going to wait till next year for the s9/s9 plus
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OUCH I landed mine this Summer sometime and an Ex GF actually FRP locked it, so I was pretty happy just to break that lock, then found CM13 floating around here right after, & probably just assumed we were going full throttle like all other flagships from Sammy.
Even Android File Hosts developer counts.
Note 5 130ish devs reported? Like 7 pages of names.
s6 Edge+ devs reported at somewhere around 30 total. Is this even seriously happening?
They are ALL THE SAME DEVICE Why we don't just have an *Exynos7420 device area is beyond me, we would go alot further merging all the TWRP commits into a universal for whole SoC lineup then carrier Variants to simplify it all again, instead with the way it is I have no clue what is possible and a good idea or totally stupid and a bootloop in the making. >.<
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I feel like part of the problem may be users that don't roll up their sleeves and learn to contribute to the community. If there's a project you want to see, and it doesn't exist, start it. It looks like you'd have lots of greatful people.
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I feel like part of the problem may be users that don't roll up their sleeves and learn to contribute to the community. If there's a project you want to see, and it doesn't exist, start it. It looks like you'd have lots of greatful people.
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How? There are plenty of projects on the same SoC with no desire to port to the 4 or 5 users (Us) that care
Personally I just sold this phone for $80 today over this, and the fact for 6mths its been nothing but a headache, 6mths of learning googling and tinkering, + probably 2tb in total internet data for this. I still don't quite understand the finer details of this device, and to be totally honest, I wouldn't want to, it all seems to be about rerouting and fixing up stuff to work around AOSP code.
If you really thought about getting an Exynos or a Samsung device in general just for tinkering and community involvement, it was your mistake from the start. even if the S6/Note 5 have more support than the edge plus (which mainly because of the sales/price difference between the regular edge and the plus) they are nothing but 10% of the support you will find for devices like the OnePlus, Xiaomi, Nexuses or even Crap Sony and mainly because these other manufacturers are more developer friendly and most of the time their code is very similar to AOSP.
Well if s6 , s6 edge and s6 edge+ are basically the same device, would s6 or s6 edge rom work on edge+?
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Well if s6 , s6 edge and s6 edge+ are basically the same device, would s6 or s6 edge rom work on edge+?
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It would. With (depends on which ROM) more or less modifications. MIUI in original development section is an S6 port.
Note 5 ROMs seems to be much easier to port (most likely just use an S6e+ kernel) because it's even more similar to our device.
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It would. With (depends on which ROM) more or less modifications. MIUI in original development section is an S6 port.
Note 5 ROMs seems to be much easier to port (most likely just use an S6e+ kernel) because it's even more similar to our device.
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Yes this is all true but the differences between the s6, s6 edge, s6e+, & also the note5 respectively share extremely similar traits with the other device that runs all kinds of fun stuff (Meizu Pro 5) and the only major difference I could grasp between them is the ODIN mode/Fastboot swaps + some minor stuff (hardware buttons, higher res camera, scanner on back of phone)
But they were still ALL the same manufacturing & SoC line (Sony Camera, Exynos7420) but the pro5 just magically somehow can be released with an Ubuntu Touch edition + CyanogenMod like cake??? I dont buy that man..... If it were such a hassle to do this phones hardware for devs, they wouldn't be just flexing it in the background like that......
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If you really thought about getting an Exynos or a Samsung device in general just for tinkering and community involvement, it was your mistake from the start. even if the S6/Note 5 have more support than the edge plus (which mainly because of the sales/price difference between the regular edge and the plus) they are nothing but 10% of the support you will find for devices like the OnePlus, Xiaomi, Nexuses or even Crap Sony and mainly because these other manufacturers are more developer friendly and most of the time their code is very similar to AOSP.
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Did you not see the comments or?
I got the device for free, I had no clue what was inside of it, also didn't care about the SoC since I had prior knowledge that Samsung would be a simple process with Odin & a CF package, what I hadn't counted on was TouchWiz still being the most bloated & unstable manufacturers slop on the market, also hadn't counted on it being the hardest overall to develop for, since most of the developers lost their XDA accounts eve attempting to bring CM13 up for the device, & don't get me wrong I have had plenty of HTC/Motorola devices & I sold my Nexus 7 not long ago, I'm familiar with AOSP (the thing these Samsung devs had to of started from) and just can't understand why they made is so much of a runaround process.