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"Unlimited" Data Caps

I talked to a guy at Sprint today and he said that 3G will still have the 5GB cap but 4G will truly be unlimited.
Can someone confirm?

yup thats how it is
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Not true.
With the $10 mandatory add-on, even 3G becomes unlimited. I have confirmed this from training materials that I've seen. I have also been told this by numerous PR friends.

And in all honesty, who has ever been told be Sprint that they need to stop going over their 5GB limit without going WAY over month street month? I think its only purpose is to serve as a legal loophole to limit people going crazy with their data. That's why no one pays overages.
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I talked to a guy at Sprint today and he said that 3G will still have the 5GB cap but 4G will truly be unlimited.
Can someone confirm?
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I would not give it any thought I use over 12 gigs of data a month and they have never said anything

There has never been a 5GB cap for data on phones. It's only on aircards/usb modems.

For any of the Sprint Everthing plans that include 'Unlimited Data' it has a technical cap at 5GB. However, this is as said above a legal loop hole so Sprint can stop you if you are using way too much. The chances of you getting in trouble by using 6GB is almost 0. I haven't found anyone yet who have been charged over for it.
As for the training material, it probably did say 'Unlimited' however Sprint calls the plan 'Everything Plan with Unlimited Data'. But look into the fine print and you will see the 5GB cap. I have to pay a mandatory $10 for Data with my Pre and I still technically have a cap.
So the Evo will have no technical loop hole for 4G, no cap at all. However, 3G will have a cap of 5GB that any one can go over and not get in trouble.

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TheBiles said:
And in all honesty, who has ever been told be Sprint that they need to stop going over their 5GB limit without going WAY over month street month? I think its only purpose is to serve as a legal loophole to limit people going crazy with their data. That's why no one pays overages.
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Month street month mean?

Phones don't have a 5gb cap. Just aircards.
http://shop.sprint.com/NASApp/onlinestore/en/Action/SubmitCoverageMessage
everything data has no cap, mobile broadband does.

hokansoc said:
Phones don't have a 5gb cap. Just aircards.
http://shop.sprint.com/NASApp/onlinestore/en/Action/SubmitCoverageMessage
everything data has no cap, mobile broadband does.
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that link takes me to an empty shopping cart message.
I think I read on engadget not too long ago that the 3g and 4g were unlimited on the evo.

I've been under the impression that there is only a 5gb cap for wifi hotspot on 3G...

So It's been established that there is NO cap on GB transfered on evo, thethering 3G and 4G means truly unlimited correct guys ?

correct, on phone usage there is no cap, with a data device (non phone) there is a cap
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Yup.. confirmed over and over... with regards to the EVO there are NO caps.
Only air cards have a 5gb limit
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Thank you guys. I much appriciate it!!!!!!

GSM Galaxy Nexus on AT & T medianet

Anyone able to use the $10 unlimited medianet plan or are you forced into the smart phone 2 gb plan?
My nexus arrives tomorrow and I'm on the medianet plan on my gs2 and was hoping to keep it
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Yep, you'll be able to keep your $10 unlimited with your Galaxy Nexus on AT&T. That's what I'm doing and have been doing since my Galaxy S2 International version. Still get HSPA speeds too, roughly ~4 mbs download and ~1 mbs uploads. Enjoy it!

You may or may not get to keep the $10 medianet unlimited. If you did, then consider yourself lucky.
Back when I had my Nexus One they switched me to the $30 smartphone unlimited a few days after changing from a dumbphone.

So far I've been able to keep my media net plan. We'll see what happens over the next few days
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Thanks for the info guys. I've been considering making the move but would only do so if I can keep my $10 MediaNet unlimited plan.
If you guys wouldn't mind to keep us updated in the next few weeks it would be really helpful.
Happy Holidays!

Any luck keeping the $10 unlimited media net? I am hearing conflicted reports, and seems like a lot of misinformation out there. Some folks saying their friend's friend got switched, others saying its still good.
If they do catch you and switch to a smartphone data plan, is there a way to get AT&T to let you retain unlimited but at the $30 rate instead, or do they force you to the $25 2GB plan?

Fingers crossed, but I'm on day 4 of using the medianet plan. I'm using the Cingular 410 apn, and getting roughly 7mbps download speeds when in good coverage areas.

Any updates? I don't want to drop my unlimited smartphone plan for this only to find out they'll switch me to the 2GB plan

r34p3rex said:
Any updates? I don't want to drop my unlimited smartphone plan for this only to find out they'll switch me to the 2GB plan
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If you were grandfathered in to the unlimited smartphone plan you will be able to keep it, the reason why they won't is because they will lose money

cordell507 said:
If you were grandfathered in to the unlimited smartphone plan you will be able to keep it, the reason why they won't is because they will lose money
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nono, once you get rid of the grandfathered plan (for example, switching to medianet), you can't get it back - unless you do the iPhone 2G trick

I'm still on the $10 plan. They haven't sent a text message/email yet. My billing cycle ends on the 22nd, so we'll see if there are any changes then.
As far a I understand it, since I am technically using a data plan that is not compatible with my phone, they CAN and WILL switch me to a 2Gb plan for my smartphone, and take away my unlimited. They can do this because they don't technically offer the unlimited data for smartphones plan anymore (only for grandfathered accounts), so they can't bump me to that one. Since I would be switching from non-smartphone to smartphone, I wouldn't be considered grandfathered.
I'm sure I could call and complain and get them to do it anyway, but I understand their reasoning. It just sucks.

tighr said:
I'm still on the $10 plan. They haven't sent a text message/email yet. My billing cycle ends on the 22nd, so we'll see if there are any changes then.
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My billing cycle ended on the 22nd, and I am still on the $10 media net plan. Still using the Cingular APN.

Good luck.
Hopefully you can continue using $10 data plan.
I wouldn't risk it of you use a lot of data and are currently on the $30 unlimited data.
I heard some Samsung galaxy note people losing their unlimited $30 cause AT&T system thought they were using a tablet device instea of a phone.

So far no issues on the media net plan. I haven't went over 2 gb though yet
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I have been using that plan since i had a HTC tytan 2 - nexus 1 and now the Galaxy nexus... no problems... high speeds...

I had the $10 medianet plan and got switched to the $30 unlimited plan too about a month (one billing period) after putting the sim into my Nexus One.
Either way I think you'll be able to keep the unlimited once your grandfathered in no matter what. Price might go up though :/
Good luck!

bballs91 said:
I had the $10 medianet plan and got switched to the $30 unlimited plan too about a month (one billing period) after putting the sim into my Nexus One.
Either way I think you'll be able to keep the unlimited once your grandfathered in no matter what. Price might go up though :/
Good luck!
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galaxy nexus is not on att yet
same **** happened when i bought Xperia x10 NA ver. i was on medianet but as soon as att got black version my white xperia was flagged as smartphone still im keepin cash in my wallet unless its released on att n u guys get to keep medianet cuz smartphone plans arer dumb n overpriced
wats 2gb for a 720p fan
with gsII its different cuz all three carriers had variants

I've been on the medianet for a few weeks, as has my brother.

What apn setting should I use if I'm the MediaNet plan?

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What apn setting should I use if I'm the MediaNet plan?
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wap.cingular I believe
I tried out both the wap.cingular APN and the PTA APN and it seems like the PTA APN consistently had lower ping and higher speed than wap.cingular.
Not sure if I want to give up my unlimited LTE data plan right now (I'd lose access to pta)

Unlimited Plan

Is there any way I would be able to keep my unlimited plan and get the Inc 4G?
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Buy it outright...
If you are willing to pay the full price of the phone and not resign a contract.. it pretty much is less money than having the 2-4 gig plan. As long as you are ok spending the 650 all at once.

Unlimited data is unlimited data, whether it be 3 or 4g. As long as you dont change your plan, you will always have unlimited data even if 5g ever comes out.

cmlusco said:
Unlimited data is unlimited data, whether it be 3 or 4g. As long as you dont change your plan, you will always have unlimited data even if 5g ever comes out.
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That was the case but it will be most likely changing when shared data starts.
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tiny4579 said:
That was the case but it will be most likely changing when shared data starts.
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What is shared data? As in shared between 2 phones?

cmlusco said:
What is shared data? As in shared between 2 phones?
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Two or more devices (phones, tablets, etc) actually. Cmlusco, Verizon announced Family Share Data plans that will go into effect on June 28th. If you (or anyone you know, SPREAD THE WORD) want to maintain your unlimited data plan you must upgrade by then OR pay full retail on future phones to keep your plan unchanged. The plan breakdown is ridiculous. Give me a bit and I can post a link detailing the new changes.
Edit: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/12/the-basics-verizons-new-share-everything-plans/
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/12/verizon-announces-shared-everything-plans-starting-at-50-for-1gb-of-data-and-unlimited-talktext/

I did some math and anyone switching from a unlimited plan will have the bill increase $30-$60 over before. $720-$1440 over 24 months still feel like a subsidized phone is a good deal?
I would say the best thing about the "shared" data plan is Unlimited talk.
Honestly
shared data should look more like this
unlimited talk+text 1 gig allocation per line with the same 40$ per smartphone line starting at 15 so the share plan starts at $55 and 2 phones would be $95 and the pool would be 2 gig in size. And it scales well.
I fail to see the point of such low caps with tethering and 4g we use it faster and on more devices.

Because of this whole ordeal I am seriously thinking about buying a nexus from google and going to T-Mobile. I can get unlimited there without feeling like i'm taking it up the tailpipe :/

NYC Coyote said:
Buy it outright...
If you are willing to pay the full price of the phone and not resign a contract.. it pretty much is less money than having the 2-4 gig plan. As long as you are ok spending the 650 all at once.
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I'll just go back to buying used phones. Will be doing that shortly here; friend is upgrading from his Rezound to a GS3, and he's willing to sell me his Rezound. Will be a nice upgrade from the Inc.

T-Mobile customer question

Hey guys I have T-Mobile and I'm on a prepaid plan. What is the difference between classic plans and value plans? Also, can you do "truly unlimited" on prepaid or is that only for customers with a contract. Thanks guys!
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"Truly Unlimited" is currently contract only. "Technically Unlimited" is what you get on prepaid (throttled after you reach your cap).
Every carrier offering unlimited data except for tmo's new plan has a loophole to get out of providing you with unlimited data. Tmo cap's your speed after a certain point, but still gives you data. Simple mobile never limits your data, but will cap your speed if you put too much strain on their network (aka constant streaming, lots of bandwidth usage).

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"Truly Unlimited" is currently contract only. "Technically Unlimited" is what you get on prepaid (throttled after you reach your cap).
Every carrier offering unlimited data except for tmo's new plan has a loophole to get out of providing you with unlimited data. Tmo cap's your speed after a certain point, but still gives you data. Simple mobile never limits your data, but will cap your speed if you put too much strain on their network (aka constant streaming, lots of bandwidth usage).
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That is not true. T-mobile now has their truly unlimited unthrottled data plan. Started about 2 weeks ago. Not sure if you can do it on prepaid..

lowandbehold said:
That is not true. T-mobile now has their truly unlimited unthrottled data plan. Started about 2 weeks ago. Not sure if you can do it on prepaid..
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That's what jordanisher said. Truly unlimited is currently contract only. Unlimited but throttled for prepaid and contracts that don't want to switch to the new plan. Although there are rumors of truly unlimited going to prepaid.
The difference between classic and value is that classic gives you a free/low priced phone but higher monthly charges. Value has no free phone but lower monthly charges. With value, you can opt to get a phone at full price and pay via monthly installment that would reflect on you monthly bill.

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Hey guys I have T-Mobile and I'm on a prepaid plan. What is the difference between classic plans and value plans? Also, can you do "truly unlimited" on prepaid or is that only for customers with a contract. Thanks guys!
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Value Plans don't offer a device subsidy. Classic Plans do. They're both 2-year contracts.
Truly Unlimited Data isn't available on prepaid. 5GB throttle point is the best you can get.

Thanks guys appreciate it!
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And since there are folks responding who know T-Mobile's plans better than me, I'm currently prepaid with a 5 GB cap. I now use my Nexus 7 all the time, and everyone I've asked so far suggests that tethering my Nexus 7 to my Galaxy Nexus wouldn't be allowed if I switched to a value plan and got the unlimited data.
I've been hesitant to make any switch since I currently tether my Nexus 7 on my current plan and that seems to be allowed, but I'm concerned that if I switch, and I'm somehow detected tethering, that I'll be in a worse position than I am now.
Is tethering a restriction on everything, or in the case of a tablet like the Nexus 7 is there some allowance? Secondly, how is this being detected and/or enforced? Finally, if I were to switch, it seemed as though the penalty was pretty harsh. If I started using more than 5 GB on the unlimited data plan, can't T-Mobile flag me as an excessive data user and take away all my data? When does one become an excessive data user?
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And since there are folks responding who know T-Mobile's plans better than me, I'm currently prepaid with a 5 GB cap. I now use my Nexus 7 all the time, and everyone I've asked so far suggests that tethering my Nexus 7 to my Galaxy Nexus wouldn't be allowed if I switched to a value plan and got the unlimited data.
I've been hesitant to make any switch since I currently tether my Nexus 7 on my current plan and that seems to be allowed, but I'm concerned that if I switch, and I'm somehow detected tethering, that I'll be in a worse position than I am now.
Is tethering a restriction on everything, or in the case of a tablet like the Nexus 7 is there some allowance? Secondly, how is this being detected and/or enforced? Finally, if I were to switch, it seemed as though the penalty was pretty harsh. If I started using more than 5 GB on the unlimited data plan, can't T-Mobile flag me as an excessive data user and take away all my data? When does one become an excessive data user?
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They can't do anything to stop tethering on the Value Plan that they can't already do on your current Prepaid plan.

For post paid, you have 4 options for data (not including the 200mb one, which we know you wont use). 1) Unlimited data, no caps but also no tethering ( supposed to be a workaround, but it does not work for all), Then you have your Unlimited with 2gb cap, Unlimited with 5gb includes hotspot, and unlimited 10gb which also includes hotspot. SO, if you get close or hit 5gb, bump up to 10 before the billing cycle ends.

Chinpokomon said:
And since there are folks responding who know T-Mobile's plans better than me, I'm currently prepaid with a 5 GB cap. I now use my Nexus 7 all the time, and everyone I've asked so far suggests that tethering my Nexus 7 to my Galaxy Nexus wouldn't be allowed if I switched to a value plan and got the unlimited data.
I've been hesitant to make any switch since I currently tether my Nexus 7 on my current plan and that seems to be allowed, but I'm concerned that if I switch, and I'm somehow detected tethering, that I'll be in a worse position than I am now.
Is tethering a restriction on everything, or in the case of a tablet like the Nexus 7 is there some allowance? Secondly, how is this being detected and/or enforced? Finally, if I were to switch, it seemed as though the penalty was pretty harsh. If I started using more than 5 GB on the unlimited data plan, can't T-Mobile flag me as an excessive data user and take away all my data? When does one become an excessive data user?
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Are you tethering right now? Are you paying the extra tethering fee every month to TMo? The "no tethering clause" for truly unlimited simply means you are no longer allowed to pay a monthly fee to tether. If you have been tethering and not paying the tethering fee (and getting away with it), it'd be the same as getting away with tethering on the truly unlimited plan
To put it simply: you are not allowed to tether on ALL TMo plans unless you pay the mobile hotspot/tethering fee. Tethering without paying is no different from tethering on the truly unlimited plan

Can you tether with prepaid?

I suspect that people getting away with tethering on a prepaid plan are doing so simply because the max 4G cap is 5GB and T-Mobile really doesn't care or bother to monitor those accounts. I would think if you switch to an unlimited 4G plan they will automatically monitor the data usage.

Wish my contract with AT&T was up or I'd switch to this asap.
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harveydent said:
Are you tethering right now? Are you paying the extra tethering fee every month to TMo? ... If you have been tethering and not paying the tethering fee (and getting away with it), it'd be the same as getting away with tethering on the truly unlimited plan...
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Interesting. No, I haven't been paying for any extra service, but I've also been very conservative with my data usage. I guess that because my tethering usage has been so low, that I've sort of come in under the radar.
My intent was to switch to the unlimited data plan, and then to use my devices for streaming Netflix, Pandora, Spotify, etc. It doesn't look like that is going to work for me after all.
Thanks for the insight.
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Chinpokomon said:
Interesting. No, I haven't been paying for any extra service, but I've also been very conservative with my data usage. I guess that because my tethering usage has been so low, that I've sort of come in under the radar.
My intent was to switch to the unlimited data plan, and then to use my devices for streaming Netflix, Pandora, Spotify, etc. It doesn't look like that is going to work for me after all.
Thanks for the insight.
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I feel it is similiar to how AT&T's capped plans work, as long as you don't go overboard on the data (I assume it means 5GB), they don't care. If you're over 5GB and you're tethering, well...
I tether all the time on my atrix with the offical tethering (disabled the check of course), and AT&T hasn't complained. My data is never above 1.4GB anyways.

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Can you tether with prepaid?
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yeah either the use it and not pay extra or its 15 bucks a month to add it to monthly 4G plans
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Mgamerz said:
Can you tether with prepaid?
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Yes simply because you have a Nexus and they don't have special software/firmware on your device to straight up block it.
T-Mobile has historically monitored people's browser UAstrings in order to "catch" tethering. They've started to shy off of this a bit now though because they're selling branded T-Mobile devices that have Chrome available or preinstalled on them, which identifies the same as desktop Chrome. I'm not really sure what their plan will be for the future of tethering, but know that you'll always have a pretty good chance of tethering on a Nexus...

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Yes simply because you have a Nexus and they don't have special software/firmware on your device to straight up block it.
T-Mobile has historically monitored people's browser UAstrings in order to "catch" tethering. They've started to shy off of this a bit now though because they're selling branded T-Mobile devices that have Chrome available or preinstalled on them, which identifies the same as desktop Chrome. I'm not really sure what their plan will be for the future of tethering, but know that you'll always have a pretty good chance of tethering on a Nexus...
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Chrome's UA is different otherwise there would be no need for the desktop checkbox.
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Chrome's UA is different otherwise there would be no need for the desktop checkbox.
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The UAstring identifies as Chrome Desktop by default.

martonikaj said:
The UAstring identifies as Chrome Desktop by default.
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Why does my chrome for android get me mobile sites then? Its not IP based since the check box won't change that.
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Help find Best ATT plan for me?

Hey all. I've been using Straight Talk with an ATT SIM but I'm tired of getting throttled for no reason. I want to switch to a plan with ATT. I would use roughly 2-4 GB a month and prefer unlimited talk and text. Any ideas on a good plan or deal?
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TheIowaKid said:
Hey all. I've been using Straight Talk with an ATT SIM but I'm tired of getting throttled for no reason. I want to switch to a plan with ATT. I would use roughly 2-4 GB a month and prefer unlimited talk and text. Any ideas on a good plan or deal?
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although you wont be throttled in speeds, you'll be throttled in the wallet as a major carrier is usually going to cost double or more.
currently, an AT&T individual plan with 450 minutes, 3gb of data and unlimited texting is $90 before tax
a mobile share plan with unlimited minutes, unlimited texting and 4gb of data is $110 before tax
i have at&t. just want you to understand the cost difference
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/plans-new.html#fbid=f2Xx7eUnplO

Re: Best ATT plan?
I appreciate the quick response. Yeah, I know the price is gonna suck but honestly I have a tough time trusting ST anymore. They literally told me my plan was throttled because I use FB and Twitter. When I was on Sprint I used maybe 5gb a month. Came to ST and started off using around 2 but for throttled. They have me down to 1GB a month and I STILL get throttled. I don't stream anything and only use a few mb a day. They have a new "department" now for high data use subscribers. Its a voice recording telling you how to minimize your data use. That's it. My plan renewed and it went right back to 200k down. I'm ready to pay more so I can actually use my data for more then just a quick web browse. The price is great but they're so unclear about their policies and its impossible to find someone there who actually knows what they are talking about. Pay for what you get I guess.
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And don't forget, it's $10 for every Gb you go over your data plan

TheIowaKid said:
Hey all. I've been using Straight Talk with an ATT SIM but I'm tired of getting throttled for no reason. I want to switch to a plan with ATT. I would use roughly 2-4 GB a month and prefer unlimited talk and text. Any ideas on a good plan or deal?
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As mentioned before there are several options with AT&T, but they come with a price tag. If you want unlimited talk and text and a limited data then mobile share is the way to go. If you have family, or family members who you trust will pay their share of the bill, you can add lines and spread out the costs SOME. There is no right or wrong choice...it is dependent upon you and what you want and/or need. Keep in mind that you can tie into AT&T wireless areas as part of the plans so you can help limit some data usage.