Hey guys I have T-Mobile and I'm on a prepaid plan. What is the difference between classic plans and value plans? Also, can you do "truly unlimited" on prepaid or is that only for customers with a contract. Thanks guys!
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"Truly Unlimited" is currently contract only. "Technically Unlimited" is what you get on prepaid (throttled after you reach your cap).
Every carrier offering unlimited data except for tmo's new plan has a loophole to get out of providing you with unlimited data. Tmo cap's your speed after a certain point, but still gives you data. Simple mobile never limits your data, but will cap your speed if you put too much strain on their network (aka constant streaming, lots of bandwidth usage).
jordanishere said:
"Truly Unlimited" is currently contract only. "Technically Unlimited" is what you get on prepaid (throttled after you reach your cap).
Every carrier offering unlimited data except for tmo's new plan has a loophole to get out of providing you with unlimited data. Tmo cap's your speed after a certain point, but still gives you data. Simple mobile never limits your data, but will cap your speed if you put too much strain on their network (aka constant streaming, lots of bandwidth usage).
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That is not true. T-mobile now has their truly unlimited unthrottled data plan. Started about 2 weeks ago. Not sure if you can do it on prepaid..
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That is not true. T-mobile now has their truly unlimited unthrottled data plan. Started about 2 weeks ago. Not sure if you can do it on prepaid..
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That's what jordanisher said. Truly unlimited is currently contract only. Unlimited but throttled for prepaid and contracts that don't want to switch to the new plan. Although there are rumors of truly unlimited going to prepaid.
The difference between classic and value is that classic gives you a free/low priced phone but higher monthly charges. Value has no free phone but lower monthly charges. With value, you can opt to get a phone at full price and pay via monthly installment that would reflect on you monthly bill.
mikehunt22 said:
Hey guys I have T-Mobile and I'm on a prepaid plan. What is the difference between classic plans and value plans? Also, can you do "truly unlimited" on prepaid or is that only for customers with a contract. Thanks guys!
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Value Plans don't offer a device subsidy. Classic Plans do. They're both 2-year contracts.
Truly Unlimited Data isn't available on prepaid. 5GB throttle point is the best you can get.
Thanks guys appreciate it!
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And since there are folks responding who know T-Mobile's plans better than me, I'm currently prepaid with a 5 GB cap. I now use my Nexus 7 all the time, and everyone I've asked so far suggests that tethering my Nexus 7 to my Galaxy Nexus wouldn't be allowed if I switched to a value plan and got the unlimited data.
I've been hesitant to make any switch since I currently tether my Nexus 7 on my current plan and that seems to be allowed, but I'm concerned that if I switch, and I'm somehow detected tethering, that I'll be in a worse position than I am now.
Is tethering a restriction on everything, or in the case of a tablet like the Nexus 7 is there some allowance? Secondly, how is this being detected and/or enforced? Finally, if I were to switch, it seemed as though the penalty was pretty harsh. If I started using more than 5 GB on the unlimited data plan, can't T-Mobile flag me as an excessive data user and take away all my data? When does one become an excessive data user?
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And since there are folks responding who know T-Mobile's plans better than me, I'm currently prepaid with a 5 GB cap. I now use my Nexus 7 all the time, and everyone I've asked so far suggests that tethering my Nexus 7 to my Galaxy Nexus wouldn't be allowed if I switched to a value plan and got the unlimited data.
I've been hesitant to make any switch since I currently tether my Nexus 7 on my current plan and that seems to be allowed, but I'm concerned that if I switch, and I'm somehow detected tethering, that I'll be in a worse position than I am now.
Is tethering a restriction on everything, or in the case of a tablet like the Nexus 7 is there some allowance? Secondly, how is this being detected and/or enforced? Finally, if I were to switch, it seemed as though the penalty was pretty harsh. If I started using more than 5 GB on the unlimited data plan, can't T-Mobile flag me as an excessive data user and take away all my data? When does one become an excessive data user?
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They can't do anything to stop tethering on the Value Plan that they can't already do on your current Prepaid plan.
For post paid, you have 4 options for data (not including the 200mb one, which we know you wont use). 1) Unlimited data, no caps but also no tethering ( supposed to be a workaround, but it does not work for all), Then you have your Unlimited with 2gb cap, Unlimited with 5gb includes hotspot, and unlimited 10gb which also includes hotspot. SO, if you get close or hit 5gb, bump up to 10 before the billing cycle ends.
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And since there are folks responding who know T-Mobile's plans better than me, I'm currently prepaid with a 5 GB cap. I now use my Nexus 7 all the time, and everyone I've asked so far suggests that tethering my Nexus 7 to my Galaxy Nexus wouldn't be allowed if I switched to a value plan and got the unlimited data.
I've been hesitant to make any switch since I currently tether my Nexus 7 on my current plan and that seems to be allowed, but I'm concerned that if I switch, and I'm somehow detected tethering, that I'll be in a worse position than I am now.
Is tethering a restriction on everything, or in the case of a tablet like the Nexus 7 is there some allowance? Secondly, how is this being detected and/or enforced? Finally, if I were to switch, it seemed as though the penalty was pretty harsh. If I started using more than 5 GB on the unlimited data plan, can't T-Mobile flag me as an excessive data user and take away all my data? When does one become an excessive data user?
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Are you tethering right now? Are you paying the extra tethering fee every month to TMo? The "no tethering clause" for truly unlimited simply means you are no longer allowed to pay a monthly fee to tether. If you have been tethering and not paying the tethering fee (and getting away with it), it'd be the same as getting away with tethering on the truly unlimited plan
To put it simply: you are not allowed to tether on ALL TMo plans unless you pay the mobile hotspot/tethering fee. Tethering without paying is no different from tethering on the truly unlimited plan
Can you tether with prepaid?
I suspect that people getting away with tethering on a prepaid plan are doing so simply because the max 4G cap is 5GB and T-Mobile really doesn't care or bother to monitor those accounts. I would think if you switch to an unlimited 4G plan they will automatically monitor the data usage.
Wish my contract with AT&T was up or I'd switch to this asap.
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harveydent said:
Are you tethering right now? Are you paying the extra tethering fee every month to TMo? ... If you have been tethering and not paying the tethering fee (and getting away with it), it'd be the same as getting away with tethering on the truly unlimited plan...
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Interesting. No, I haven't been paying for any extra service, but I've also been very conservative with my data usage. I guess that because my tethering usage has been so low, that I've sort of come in under the radar.
My intent was to switch to the unlimited data plan, and then to use my devices for streaming Netflix, Pandora, Spotify, etc. It doesn't look like that is going to work for me after all.
Thanks for the insight.
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Interesting. No, I haven't been paying for any extra service, but I've also been very conservative with my data usage. I guess that because my tethering usage has been so low, that I've sort of come in under the radar.
My intent was to switch to the unlimited data plan, and then to use my devices for streaming Netflix, Pandora, Spotify, etc. It doesn't look like that is going to work for me after all.
Thanks for the insight.
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I feel it is similiar to how AT&T's capped plans work, as long as you don't go overboard on the data (I assume it means 5GB), they don't care. If you're over 5GB and you're tethering, well...
I tether all the time on my atrix with the offical tethering (disabled the check of course), and AT&T hasn't complained. My data is never above 1.4GB anyways.
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Can you tether with prepaid?
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yeah either the use it and not pay extra or its 15 bucks a month to add it to monthly 4G plans
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Mgamerz said:
Can you tether with prepaid?
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Yes simply because you have a Nexus and they don't have special software/firmware on your device to straight up block it.
T-Mobile has historically monitored people's browser UAstrings in order to "catch" tethering. They've started to shy off of this a bit now though because they're selling branded T-Mobile devices that have Chrome available or preinstalled on them, which identifies the same as desktop Chrome. I'm not really sure what their plan will be for the future of tethering, but know that you'll always have a pretty good chance of tethering on a Nexus...
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Yes simply because you have a Nexus and they don't have special software/firmware on your device to straight up block it.
T-Mobile has historically monitored people's browser UAstrings in order to "catch" tethering. They've started to shy off of this a bit now though because they're selling branded T-Mobile devices that have Chrome available or preinstalled on them, which identifies the same as desktop Chrome. I'm not really sure what their plan will be for the future of tethering, but know that you'll always have a pretty good chance of tethering on a Nexus...
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Chrome's UA is different otherwise there would be no need for the desktop checkbox.
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Chrome's UA is different otherwise there would be no need for the desktop checkbox.
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The UAstring identifies as Chrome Desktop by default.
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The UAstring identifies as Chrome Desktop by default.
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Why does my chrome for android get me mobile sites then? Its not IP based since the check box won't change that.
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Anyone able to use the $10 unlimited medianet plan or are you forced into the smart phone 2 gb plan?
My nexus arrives tomorrow and I'm on the medianet plan on my gs2 and was hoping to keep it
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Yep, you'll be able to keep your $10 unlimited with your Galaxy Nexus on AT&T. That's what I'm doing and have been doing since my Galaxy S2 International version. Still get HSPA speeds too, roughly ~4 mbs download and ~1 mbs uploads. Enjoy it!
You may or may not get to keep the $10 medianet unlimited. If you did, then consider yourself lucky.
Back when I had my Nexus One they switched me to the $30 smartphone unlimited a few days after changing from a dumbphone.
So far I've been able to keep my media net plan. We'll see what happens over the next few days
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Thanks for the info guys. I've been considering making the move but would only do so if I can keep my $10 MediaNet unlimited plan.
If you guys wouldn't mind to keep us updated in the next few weeks it would be really helpful.
Happy Holidays!
Any luck keeping the $10 unlimited media net? I am hearing conflicted reports, and seems like a lot of misinformation out there. Some folks saying their friend's friend got switched, others saying its still good.
If they do catch you and switch to a smartphone data plan, is there a way to get AT&T to let you retain unlimited but at the $30 rate instead, or do they force you to the $25 2GB plan?
Fingers crossed, but I'm on day 4 of using the medianet plan. I'm using the Cingular 410 apn, and getting roughly 7mbps download speeds when in good coverage areas.
Any updates? I don't want to drop my unlimited smartphone plan for this only to find out they'll switch me to the 2GB plan
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Any updates? I don't want to drop my unlimited smartphone plan for this only to find out they'll switch me to the 2GB plan
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If you were grandfathered in to the unlimited smartphone plan you will be able to keep it, the reason why they won't is because they will lose money
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If you were grandfathered in to the unlimited smartphone plan you will be able to keep it, the reason why they won't is because they will lose money
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nono, once you get rid of the grandfathered plan (for example, switching to medianet), you can't get it back - unless you do the iPhone 2G trick
I'm still on the $10 plan. They haven't sent a text message/email yet. My billing cycle ends on the 22nd, so we'll see if there are any changes then.
As far a I understand it, since I am technically using a data plan that is not compatible with my phone, they CAN and WILL switch me to a 2Gb plan for my smartphone, and take away my unlimited. They can do this because they don't technically offer the unlimited data for smartphones plan anymore (only for grandfathered accounts), so they can't bump me to that one. Since I would be switching from non-smartphone to smartphone, I wouldn't be considered grandfathered.
I'm sure I could call and complain and get them to do it anyway, but I understand their reasoning. It just sucks.
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I'm still on the $10 plan. They haven't sent a text message/email yet. My billing cycle ends on the 22nd, so we'll see if there are any changes then.
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My billing cycle ended on the 22nd, and I am still on the $10 media net plan. Still using the Cingular APN.
Good luck.
Hopefully you can continue using $10 data plan.
I wouldn't risk it of you use a lot of data and are currently on the $30 unlimited data.
I heard some Samsung galaxy note people losing their unlimited $30 cause AT&T system thought they were using a tablet device instea of a phone.
So far no issues on the media net plan. I haven't went over 2 gb though yet
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I have been using that plan since i had a HTC tytan 2 - nexus 1 and now the Galaxy nexus... no problems... high speeds...
I had the $10 medianet plan and got switched to the $30 unlimited plan too about a month (one billing period) after putting the sim into my Nexus One.
Either way I think you'll be able to keep the unlimited once your grandfathered in no matter what. Price might go up though :/
Good luck!
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I had the $10 medianet plan and got switched to the $30 unlimited plan too about a month (one billing period) after putting the sim into my Nexus One.
Either way I think you'll be able to keep the unlimited once your grandfathered in no matter what. Price might go up though :/
Good luck!
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galaxy nexus is not on att yet
same **** happened when i bought Xperia x10 NA ver. i was on medianet but as soon as att got black version my white xperia was flagged as smartphone still im keepin cash in my wallet unless its released on att n u guys get to keep medianet cuz smartphone plans arer dumb n overpriced
wats 2gb for a 720p fan
with gsII its different cuz all three carriers had variants
I've been on the medianet for a few weeks, as has my brother.
What apn setting should I use if I'm the MediaNet plan?
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What apn setting should I use if I'm the MediaNet plan?
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wap.cingular I believe
I tried out both the wap.cingular APN and the PTA APN and it seems like the PTA APN consistently had lower ping and higher speed than wap.cingular.
Not sure if I want to give up my unlimited LTE data plan right now (I'd lose access to pta)
Is there any way to enable tethering (without tethering plan) on an ATT S3 without rooting?
Thanks,
Jack
Nope
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Is there any way to enable tethering (without tethering plan) on an ATT S3 without rooting?
Thanks,
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27718633
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Yes download the app FoxFi
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If you are on AT&T's new mobile data share plans (or if you switch to it) then yes, you can tether for free and it will count against whatever data plan you chose (or choose) with mobile share. I switched my phones over on Thursday. I have a S3, and an iPhone 4s. We went with the 6 gig plan. All plans come with unlimited talk and text to any number, as well as wireless hotspot and tethering (wifi and USB), with no additional setup fees.
Both my phones share the 6 gigs and those gigs can be used however I choose.
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If you are on AT&T's new mobile data share plans (or if you switch to it) then yes, you can tether for free and it will count against whatever data plan you chose (or choose) with mobile share. I switched my phones over on Thursday. I have a S3, and an iPhone 4s. We went with the 6 gig plan. All plans come with unlimited talk and text to any number, as well as wireless hotspot and tethering (wifi and USB), with no additional setup fees.
Both my phones share the 6 gigs and those gigs can be used however I choose.
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I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan so I'm not ready to switch to a shared plan and risk losing unlimited. Thanks for the replies everyone
Foxfi does work on ATT - go here: Foxfi.com/bin download the app and run it. I needed a reboot to get it to work but after that - flawless. Thanks everyone
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I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan so I'm not ready to switch to a shared plan and risk losing unlimited. Thanks for the replies everyone
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... you DO know that tethering on an unlimited plan also runs the risk of being FORCED onto a different plan, correct?
AT&T seems to be REALLY good at knowing when your tethering. I never had the "unlimited" plan on AT&T to begin with (but realistically, it really isnt unlimited anymore anyways), so I was very happy to see the new mobile share plans that allow me to use my tethering as part of the data I'm already paying them for every month.
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... you DO know that tethering on an unlimited plan also runs the risk of being FORCED onto a different plan, correct?
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... you DO know that tethering on an unlimited plan also runs the risk of being FORCED onto a different plan, correct?
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I did not know this. I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan through ATT. If I use FoxFi they can see that and force me into a new plan?
Samsung s3
Tlo218 said:
I did not know this. I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan through ATT. If I use FoxFi they can see that and force me into a new plan?
Samsung s3
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I used to tether on my old phone (iPhone) with ATT and one day I got a text saying basically to stop tethering or they would put me into a capped data plan. I continued tethering until I got another text saying they were moving me into a data plan. I called ATT and was polite and played dumb, the girl said she would remove that "flag" from my account since I called. I stopped tethering at that point. Now I just want to see if it can be done on my S3, I will prolly just go with a data plan at some point and tether properly with ATT
How do they monitor that?
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Tlo218 said:
How do they monitor that?
Samsung s3
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Easy. Tethering forces additional hop. Also data usage when on another tethered device has different characteristics vs. data usage on the device.
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Since your talking about FoxFi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830484
I have a 3 gigabytes plan. If I do tethering, would at&t give me a hard time? So far my impression is that at&t only cares if it's from an unlimited data plan. Could somebody give me some clue?
Your best bet would be to call and ask only takes a few minutes
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Tethering is included with data bucket plans. They'd of course want you to pay for tethering on your plan which imo is ridiculous, but that's the way it is. With unlimited data plans, tethering from At&t isn't even an option. They won't even let you pay monthly for it without giving up your unlimited plan.
You have to have the 5gb plan or mobile share plan if you wanna tether. You cant call and ask them to let you tether on a 3gb plan. If that was the case att would not have a dedicated tethering plan.
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x2h said:
I have a 3 gigabytes plan. If I do tethering, would at&t give me a hard time? So far my impression is that at&t only cares if it's from an unlimited data plan. Could somebody give me some clue?
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Tethering isn't allowed. Unless ya paying for it!!
But if your on a custom Rom. And it unlocked the tethering portion. Which most Rom's give you tethering capabilities anyhow.
With that being said: If you use it every now & then, and don't use big amounts of data then I'm quite sure they won't even notice you.
I'm on a grandfathered plan and use it, every now & then. When traveling mostly or when I have no internet access..
Just can't b greedy and go playing Xbox Live like I did. Then instantly the next 2 days got a msg from them. Lol
Just my 2ยข
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We have a ten gig plan through at&t and I can use the mobile hotspot app to tether. AT&T does not care if I tether and they would like for me to go over my ten gigs so they can charge me extra. They do not allow the folks who are grandfathered into unlimited data because they do not make enough money off of them to allow it. I do not know about the 3 gig plan.
Is there a way to hide your data? I've used ssh tunnel while tethering and I don't think there was a problem.
Xbox doesn't run natively on android phones, however web browsing does
So of course like many people with a GS2 on here I decided I wanted to tether but these last of couple of days have been very odd.
My tethering is no longer blocked for some strange reason and I am free to use tethering as I please this was not the case before.
How is this possible that the stock tethering on CM9.1 has failed all this time yet now it magically works I installed many steam updates and did about 20 speedtests to cause it to fail or disconnect me. It did neither. So I would like to know if this is an isolated incident or not,
Change data plans? I called and asked why the unlimited plan with no throttling costs 5$ less than the 5gb cap plan. Lady told me the throttled plan comes with tethering while truly unlimited plan does not.
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It shouldn't work.
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Change data plans? I called and asked why the unlimited plan with no throttling costs 5$ less than the 5gb cap plan. Lady told me the throttled plan comes with tethering while truly unlimited plan does not.
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I have truly unlimited data the plan that tethering should not be allowed in.
Has anyone else recently had an offer for unlimited data from verizon? I just got that offer today and it's about 30 dollars cheaper than what I'm currently paying. Is this one of those to good to be true deals? From what I've been able to find out, it looks like it's 10gb of tethered 4g data and then switches to 3g and 22gb of data and then switches to 3g. Am I missing something? Does anyone know anything more about it? Is what I read online correct? I can't seem to find anything official from verizon regarding the fine print.
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Has anyone else recently had an offer for unlimited data from verizon? I just got that offer today and it's about 30 dollars cheaper than what I'm currently paying. Is this one of those to good to be true deals? From what I've been able to find out, it looks like it's 10gb of tethered 4g data and then switches to 3g and 22gb of data and then switches to 3g. Am I missing something? Does anyone know anything more about it? Is what I read online correct? I can't seem to find anything official from verizon regarding the fine print.
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I work for VZW. It's legit, it's real unlimited with 10gb of tethering at 4g speeds and then deprioritization after 22gb of mobile use. Meaning that if you hit 22gb and are connected to a congested tower, you might be slowed down a bit as other users who don't use as much data will be pushed to the front of the line, so to speak. If you're on a tower that isn't congested, you won't experience any slowdowns. Hope that helps.
Are you in a grandfathered unlimited plan? If so, what you have is true unlimited where this plan offering is throttled after 22gb.
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Are you in a grandfathered unlimited plan? If so, what you have is true unlimited where this plan offering is throttled after 22gb.
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I still have the true unlimited plan, it's an altell plan from 15 years or more ago. But my kids and wife don't. I wonder if this would be good for me. But I make them piggy back off my WiFi tether when we go anywhere. And always stay on WiFi. I wish it was 22g per line, instead of the account.
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donelam304 said:
I still have the true unlimited plan, it's an altell plan from 15 years or more ago. But my kids and wife don't. I wonder if this would be good for me. But I make them piggy back off my WiFi tether when we go anywhere. And always stay on WiFi. I wish it was 22g per line, instead of the account.
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I had the same thing. I switched to the new plan and noticed no difference. I think you will be all right.
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donelam304 said:
I still have the true unlimited plan, it's an altell plan from 15 years or more ago. But my kids and wife don't. I wonder if this would be good for me. But I make them piggy back off my WiFi tether when we go anywhere. And always stay on WiFi. I wish it was 22g per line, instead of the account.
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Grandfathered true unlimited is true unlimited per fcc rules. As for having them tether I'm not sure Verizon's stance.
That said, the new plan you will be throttled and can be because it is written as such.
Just keep that in mind.
I just compared my current plan to the Unlimited Plan. I could change and it would be the same price, BUT, not really, because I would lose the Employer discount my wife gets.
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I had the same thing. I switched to the new plan and noticed no difference. I think you will be all right.
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On average I myself use 20 gigs to 40 gigs per month. I'm not sure if this would work that well.
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