Hey all,
I'm aware that these are 2 very different roms, but they seem to be the kings for our VZW Note 4s right now if you are trying to stay up to date in regards to android.
The former being vanilla based, while the latter being samsung based (as if samsung decided to keep supporting our phone to the latest software).
Has anyone tried both? So far i've only played with EmotionOS and i'm blown away by the "quickness" of it. However, there are definitely some things missing and also some instabilities compared to stock.
I'm curious about trying NSeven, but am wondering about the stability compared to EmotionOS, as well as other "high-level" observations some of you may had.
Share!
Emotion is unstable. When battery falls down to about 50% it will randomly reboot, then continue rebooting until battery is drained. Have not tried NSeven.
Emotion os / Android 7.1.1 is beautiful even with some bugs!!! I'm just so tired of TouchWiz.. I use my note 4 only at home without a sim card because of the bugs...
Other than a few bugs,emotions is my daily driver.
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I have tried both, but I always end up back at nseven. I haven't had any issues with it and it has been my daily driver for weeks. OK, yes the finger scanner doesn't work, but honestly, the thing didn't work that well ever, not like my S7, I love how that finger scanner works. Also, the always on doesn't work, but since that was a Moto thing, and I haven't had a Moto phone for a couple of years, I don't miss what I haven't had. Other than a few minor quirks, which every rom has, the Nseven is great. You may be wondering what sets it apart from the emotion build? Well at first the only thing that I noticed was the la k of the connection to my watch, the gear S2, but that was easily worked around and connected just fine. Then it happened, I tossed my phone on the bed, and the pen popped out, my phone did nothing. I realized then, that my phone didn't even know it had a pen in it, furthermore, it didn't know how to use it. Now this isn't a huge deal, I don't use my pen all that much, so I stuck it out, kept running emotion, but I realized that I do use my pen just enough to make this inconvenient. So yes there are some work around and there are some fixes, but none of them are quite convienent as stock. Anyway, there is a new build of Nseven coming soon, not sure what changes or fixes there will be, but I will run it when it comes out.
billyburly said:
Emotion is unstable. When battery falls down to about 50% it will randomly reboot, then continue rebooting until battery is drained. Have not tried NSeven.
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I don't seem to have this problem. I had it with my original battery and once I replaced it it's been fine.
denism81 said:
Emotion os / Android 7.1.1 is beautiful even with some bugs!!! I'm just so tired of TouchWiz.. I use my note 4 only at home without a sim card because of the bugs...
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I'm tired of TouchWiz too.. But I think an note 7 version would be a nice upgrade for now. I'm curious how natural that rom feels on the note 4
I have the nseven rom and much prefer it over the emotion rom. The nseven with xposed runs flawless for me.
I'm running EmotionOS and I have absolutely no issues besides the fingerprint scanner working intermittently. I haven't tried NSeven, but I have had no reason to move from Emotion. Much prefer stock android with Action Launcher to Touchwiz
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I don't seem to have this problem. I had it with my original battery and once I replaced it it's been fine.
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I have an original battery and two ankers that I bought shortly after I got my note 4, I never thought to think it was just my batteries getting old.... The reboots are totally random... I'll look into getting a new battery soon. I guess.
The latest build for NSeven is being tested right now, from what I have seen so far, it is going to be a solid build. I honestly havent had any real issues with the previous build. I use my note 4 everyday, all day. I have been off my charger for 3 hours and my screen time is at an hour and a half, so literally half of the time. I am sitting at 60%, after running my music through my truck bluetooth for the last 2 hours. I am satisfied.
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Emotion is unstable. When battery falls down to about 50% it will randomly reboot, then continue rebooting until battery is drained. Have not tried NSeven.
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Nseven will rock your world!!
Its a beast!
Android.Ninja said:
Nseven will rock your world!!
Its a beast!
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Truth brother.
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I love EmotionOS, and have had very few problems. I would love to try Nseven, but I was able to go straight from 5.1.1 to Emotion, I can't go directly from 5.1.1 to Nseven. Frankly, I dont want to go through the tedious root process again just to try out an MM Rom, so.. 7.0 it is for me I guess
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I love EmotionOS, and have had very few problems. I would love to try Nseven, but I was able to go straight from 5.1.1 to Emotion, I can't go directly from 5.1.1 to Nseven. Frankly, I dont want to go through the tedious root process again just to try out an MM Rom, so.. 7.0 it is for me I guess
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I go back to emotion from nseven and back. Npb
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I go back to emotion from nseven and back. Npb
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Where did you start though? With 6.0 I would guess. I went straight from 5.1.1 to 7.0, but you cant go from 5.1.1 to 6 without re-rootting, from what I understand. I have tried it, and it doesnt work for me, just bootloops when I try to flash Nseven
I've tried both and am currently running Nseven because I want Xposed. Emotion is quick and smooth but becasue it is based on Nougat there is currently no Xposed option. I used Spen Commander and a notes app called Rings Notes which mimicked s notes quite well. There was another app that I brought over from Emotion when I switched back though the name escapes me at the moment.
Battery life on both (Emotion 1/20 & Nseven Build2) is great and Samsung Smart Connect will run on either ( I needed it because the integrated Samsung Connect on Nseven refused to work for me, constant FC) to control my Samsung smart tv(unfortunately no mirroring to the phone from the tv). Samsung Accessory Service may help if you have issues with your Gear watch, there is a workaround on the Emotion support thread as well.
Really you cannot go wrong with either, it comes down to preferences.
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Where did you start though? With 6.0 I would guess. I went straight from 5.1.1 to 7.0, but you cant go from 5.1.1 to 6 without re-rootting, from what I understand. I have tried it, and it doesnt work for me, just bootloops when I try to flash Nseven
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I'm surprised you were able to flash Emotion from 5.1.1. It appears to require a more up to date modem I thought.
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I've tried both and am currently running Nseven because I want Xposed. Emotion is quick and smooth but becasue it is based on Nougat there is currently no Xposed option. I used Spen Commander and a notes app called Rings Notes which mimicked s notes quite well. There was another app that I brought over from Emotion when I switched back though the name escapes me at the moment.
Battery life on both (Emotion 1/20 & Nseven Build2) is great and Samsung Smart Connect will run on either ( I needed it because the integrated Samsung Connect on Nseven refused to work for me, constant FC) to control my Samsung smart tv(unfortunately no mirroring to the phone from the tv). Samsung Accessory Service may help if you have issues with your Gear watch, there is a workaround on the Emotion support thread as well.
Really you cannot go wrong with either, it comes down to preferences.
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I'm surprised you were able to flash Emotion from 5.1.1. It appears to require a more up to date modem I thought.
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That's what I thought, but I saw someone in another thread say they had done it so I tried it and it worked. I havent had any issues to speak of..
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I have an original battery and two ankers that I bought shortly after I got my note 4, I never thought to think it was just my batteries getting old.... The reboots are totally random... I'll look into getting a new battery soon. I guess.
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I actually am using an anhker now, and it's just fine. On emotionOs, I usually end up around 40% at the end of the day with usage here and there. I also have an OEM replacement that i ordered straight from amazon-samsung, but i'm saving that one.
Maybe you should cleanly re-do your phone... reflash firmwares and all that. It shouldn't be so bad.. but then again, perhaps you are running some subset of apps that are eating up your CPU. We all have different usage habits.
Hey guys, so i took the plunge, and decided to switch to NSeven.
So far, it seems that NSeven will be my new home. Here's my thoughts
- EmotionOS is definitely "snappier" (due to vanilla?), but NSeven is snappier than stock touchwiz marshmallow.
- NSeven actually feels like an official update! When using EmotionOS, you can tell for sure that you are on a custom ROM because of the little glitches and quirks. It's still 95% usable, though, and I could see it being better for some people who prefer running completely debloated. However, NSeven feels 100% usable and you have things back like pen support and it seems to "mesh" better with this phone, maybe cause it's samsung to samsung. It sort of feels like i just picked up an note5 or note7 and got a new phone.
I'm running CPL1 build (build 2) right now... waiting for build 3 to be rereleased and more stable.
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It was a bit frustated when waiting for major update from LG for our lovely G Pro. Although using stock rom is enough, but we need more to optimise the device.
I have been using some kitkat custom roms and decided to use one of the for day to day use. My impression so far is that I wil not go back to stock unless big problem happen to my phone (i.e. when I need to go to service center ?).
So, currently I just waiting for nightly updates or other kitkat new custom rom coming ☺
How about you, guys?
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I got an update notification on my stock rooted phone this morning... Still nervous about installing it.
I like AOSP roms, but I find they favor having the latest android base over working out all of the bugs. Which in turn means extra features, but lack stability. I usually find the best Roms for a phone (AOSP or stock mod) match the android base of the stock.
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There are not too much options for Korean Variant F240x so unless there comes some stable custom rom had to stick with the stock.
I'm using CM 11 as it has DSP working and most custom ROMs do not.
I still wish LG would release an update for us.
The only problem I have with the ASOP and CM based roms is stability. Some have good battery life, some are feature packed, some have working navigation, some have a hard time locking or issues with sound.
I have yet to find one that just works in all aspects. That's what keeps me going back to stock. Even the G2 V5 had issues for me with signal reception (yes I flashed my modem again) and wifi transfer speeds. The only one that has it all working perfectly is the stock 4.1.2.
I wish we had more customization on that base E980 stock rom kernel tweaks and things like that, but I understand the allure of 4.4 roms versus spending dev time on an outdated build. For me though, having a phone that works consistently is more important. That's not to say there is anything wrong with the ASOP and CM roms, I just haven't found one that just works. Especially when it comes to GPS.
I see that there is the 4.2.2 update from China and I hope a Dev or 2 takes a look at that, or the new Gx that is very similar to the G Pro in hardware. Hopefully there is an option to port that to our G Pro. We'll see. For now, I still enjoy my G Pro and really have no desire to purchase anything else on the market right now.
-Logic
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I got an update notification on my stock rooted phone this morning... Still nervous about installing it.
I like AOSP roms, but I find they favor having the latest android base over working out all of the bugs. Which in turn means extra features, but lack stability. I usually find the best Roms for a phone (AOSP or stock mod) match the android base of the stock.
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I got a CWM bootloop......
Oh yeah, another thing I got last time was even I have unrooted (and rooted) stock rom, I could not get OTA update, while my friend got that.
So, still keep using the custom rom which has less bug.
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I got a CWM bootloop......
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Yep. If you are rooted and have CWM or TWRP recovery installed and you attempt to update you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop. If you are stock, non-rooted, and you install the AT&T update you will NOT be able to root - the update blocks rooting. IMHO there is nothing of value in the AT&T update. Wherever you are, stay there.
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Yep. If you are rooted and have CWM or TWRP recovery installed and you attempt to update you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop. If you are stock, non-rooted, and you install the AT&T update you will NOT be able to root - the update blocks rooting. IMHO there is nothing of value in the AT&T update. Wherever you are, stay there.
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I just clicked it so it'd go away. It kept coming back after rebooting.....nice going guy I thought.....no the pleasure of fixing it.......ugghh
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visionlogic said:
Yep. If you are rooted and have CWM or TWRP recovery installed and you attempt to update you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop. If you are stock, non-rooted, and you install the AT&T update you will NOT be able to root - the update blocks rooting. IMHO there is nothing of value in the AT&T update. Wherever you are, stay there.
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is it an auto update? I'm on slimbean 4.3. is there a thread about this to disable anything to avoid the update coming through?
I have been running the cm nightlys now for several days it has proven quite stable does a great job multitasking and running game apps. for battery life i downloaded no-frills cpu control and set the cpu to interactive. also has an option to apply on boot so when rebooting the phone it does not return to on demand. Getting 8 to 12 hrs battery life (6 with heavy gaming) and battery recharges in 2 to 4 hrs depending on which charger i use stock or aftermarket. I am very happy with cm11 at this point and been getting daily updates adding features and fixing issues. I also have run the halo harmony rom which works very well but battery life is short 4 to 6 hours heavy gaming have drained battery in 3hrs but halo interface is nice. As far as stock lg filled this thing with way to much bloat ware and even with it all disabled phone is still slower then what it is capable of being. I love they way this device runs on kit kat and will continue to run the cm nightys until they release a stable.
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You should also know no matter which Kit Kat rom you are running you will need to do this from your dialer go to setting and select vibrate on call waiting. None of the roms have a working call waiting ringer yet but the vibrate function does work but must be selected manually after installing rom.
I have been plagued with the muffled in-call mic problem on any AOSP/CM based ROM. That has been the driving factor for staying on stock-based.
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I have been plagued with the muffled in-call mic problem on any AOSP/CM based ROM. That has been the driving factor for staying on stock-based.
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I just also realised that what you mentioned is true. What happened to me is not all calling, but some were not a problem. I think an AOSP based rom has better in-call mic than CM, CMIIW.
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I just also realised that what you mentioned is true. What happened to me is not all calling, but some were not a problem. I think an AOSP based rom has better in-call mic than CM, CMIIW.
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About a week ago cm fixed mic and headset issues they also have dsp manager fully working
Yup, thank you. I am using official CM11 now, and voice call is fixed.
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@overboard1978
Thanks for this update.
I was searching high and low to see if the phone mic issue had been resolved. Many others have experienced it but nobody ever followed up.
This was the one issue that was holding this phone back (no matter what ROM). I'm told that the mic volume is useable - with a little bit of cutting in and out. Not 100% perfect yet, but useable.
Well, I already knew the device likely wasn't going to be getting an upgrade. I bought it as a temporary device. I bought a Note III last week, and am in the process of selling my G Pro.
I do miss some features from it, mostly the 5x5 home screen grid and the actually usable universal remote app built-in, but the S-Pen features outweigh them.
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Yep. If you are rooted and have CWM or TWRP recovery installed and you attempt to update you will get stuck in a recovery boot loop. If you are stock, non-rooted, and you install the AT&T update you will NOT be able to root - the update blocks rooting. IMHO there is nothing of value in the AT&T update. Wherever you are, stay there.
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I had to use LG FlashTools after a freegee fiasco switching from TWRP to CWM, and ended up on stock 10k. Completely stock, no custom recovery, just 4.1.2 and rooted. If you attempt to install the update already rooted WITHOUT a custom recovery it just gives some message about root detected and reboots back normally.
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Well, I already knew the device likely wasn't going to be getting an upgrade. I bought it as a temporary device. I bought a Note III last week, and am in the process of selling my G Pro.
I do miss some features from it, mostly the 5x5 home screen grid and the actually usable universal remote app built-in, but the S-Pen features outweigh them.
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I prefer LG rigth now before Samsung again LG NEED PUT THE DAMN ASS on earth and bring updates on time then you will see Samsung crying.
S4 sucks
S3 blow S4 on any day (yes i know 2 cores vs 4 cores but S3 STILL the phone most used in the world)
Note 3=Note 2 updated what a F*** joke samsung
Samsung not will rule the smartphone world with 10GB of pure TW crap in each phone they sell...
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Mervingio said:
I prefer LG rigth now before Samsung again LG NEED PUT THE DAMN ASS on earth and bring updates on time then you will see Samsung crying.
S4 sucks
S3 blow S4 on any day (yes i know 2 cores vs 4 cores but S3 STILL the phone most used in the world)
Note 3=Note 2 updated what a F*** joke samsung
Samsung not will rule the smartphone world with 10GB of pure TW crap in each phone they sell...
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Settle down, Beavis.
Samsung pretty much does rule the Android smartphone world, despite (or maybe because of) "10gb(wrong) of pure TW crap(also wrong)"
(I know there isnt any solution except to root and flash to a custom, just ranting. Thanks ahead to those who dont flame me)
Hey guys,
its been some time since my last post and boy is this one a headache. as many of you know the 5.0.1 update got rolled out to a major portion of note 4 devices recently. Me being one of them as of yesterday. Since I made the bad decision to click update I have had nothing but issues. Battery life, overall performance and graphics have taken heavy hits. My gear 2 only unlocked my phone and randomly dialed ppl maybe 2 times a day before now its 15. I mean i called my ex at 3am.....long story but hell! its gotten to be a huge headache. The chromecast refuses to connect or be setup by my note 4. It insists that theres some new wifi network issue that wasnt there the night before when I casted some youtube to the tv. My gear 2 has also had constant connection issues, not nearly the range it had before.
The most annoying issue which is also related to the excessive pocket dials is that everytime I pick up(and even when its just laying there not being touched) my phone and unlock it, it immediately takes me to the phone/contacts. No pressing anything, no swiping, just looking at the screen as i pick up the phone some how indicates that I was finished with whatever I was doing before and want to suddenly call someone up. So it doesnt matter what I do this thing is just being difficult. The new phone pop up is a nightmare I somehow hung up on 3 ppl today while just holding it against me ear, wasnt even resting on my shoulder.
now excuse me while i eat some cheese....
Factory reset and you'll find it smoother, quicker and less buggy.
The user file system is mixed lollipop and KitKat until you do that. Try that if wipe, root and custom is not your thing.
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Factory reset and you'll find it smoother, quicker and less buggy.
The user file system is mixed lollipop and KitKat until you do that. Try that if wipe, root and custom is not your thing.
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Ya i figured as much. thanks for the reply
actually all you have to do is clear the cache and it stablizes.. But i do feel the Note 4 is has more hicups with the 5.0.1 update.
i just have not found a ROM yet that i want to flash. Still waiting for the Cyanogen official.
All lollipop roms have issuses with performance. My nexus 6 was really buggy to the point i sold it and picked up a lg g flex 2 running 5.0.1 and it was slower than my g3. So far after selling that device and getting the note 4 the note 4 with lolipop seem the most fluid out of the bunch. It's gonna take several updated for this lolipop os to run like kit kat. Maybe take years.
Maybe when 5.1 comes they fixed alot
just wondering if anyone still uses KK on the tab or have you moved up to LP 5.0 or 5.1 ...
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just wondering if anyone still uses KK on the tab or have you moved up to LP 5.0 or 5.1 ...
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I don't own tab but personally I think lollipop is a failed OS. Too bad for battery life although overall performance is better.
Back to kitkat N9005 Tweaked3.95 + LK3.17
My T800 ran for 260 days on kitkat without needing to be rebooted or tuned off even once now that is stability and i used it every day, when i did turn it off it was just to recalibrate the battery.
Too many reported problems with lollipop from less battery life, to lines on the screen, touchscreen problem, flash led problems, too much white in the stock apps and setting menu, stupid on an oled display.
I rooted my T800 and fixed the microsd problem, added AC3 support to the stock video player so why do i need kitkat, not saying i will not upgrade in the future to android m.
John.
I'm in the process of downgrade right now!
Ye i just flashed lollipop rom yesterday and now im rolling back to kk, i dont know if samsung is just trolling or what. you get a tiny status bar & notif panel then a blown up recent app manager, wtf? Plus no official xposed, and everything is just white & sky blue :/
A lot of people on SamMobile are saying that lollipop is a wasted update as it offers nothing new, and introduces a load of problems, also they are not happy at the way Samsung releases the updates.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/06/16/samsungs-software-update-policy-is-seriously-messed-up/
John.
For now, I believe they'll keep releasing 5.0 for older devices, and 5.1 for new ones.
Older models will always be one step behind, it's called marketing and forcing "impatient customers" to upgrade their device.
Although I notice these T700 and T800 5.0 versions keep getting patched with new updates and more stability, I believe we'll only get 5.1 when Android M is released for newer devices.
Then after 1, 2, or 3 years from release date and depending on each device, they are forgotten by the manufacturer and software updates are stopped, hoping you'll buy again a newer model, regardless of your device purchase date and condition.
And this in a way, explains why the XDA community is strong.
I finished downgrading. Tablet runs smoother, I can change many things in Xposed and generally, it just works.
Yeah, I choked on the lollipop, but i loved the chocolaty goodness of kitkat, stay on kitkat and don't be a sucker.
John.
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I finished downgrading. Tablet runs smoother, I can change many things in Xposed and generally, it just works.
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In my opinion, I'm on LP because I find it much smoother than KK.
The newer kernel and drivers on lollipop are the main reasons for better performance, which is easily seen in Antutu scores.
The only advantages I find in KK is that it's less buggy and ram leak is better.
When you say performance are you talking about gaming? , if so a lot of people don't game or only use simple games that don't require a great deal of system performance.
I don't game, and i have not seen any laginess on kitkat, i had it running 260 days without any problems i did not reset or shut-down a single time.
John.
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In my opinion, I'm on LP because I find it much smoother than KK.
The newer kernel and drivers on lollipop are the main reasons for better performance, which is easily seen in Antutu scores.
The only advantages I find in KK is that it's less buggy and ram leak is better.
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With LP you do need to reboot now and then due to ram leak problem.
Let's say LP is faster than KK at the beginning and after a few days it crawls due to ram leak, until you reboot and it's pristine again for the next days.
To be honest, while my initial reactions to Lollipop on both my TAB S and my Nexus 5 was less than favorable, after finding the right alternate ROMs I am very happy. Great performance (I don't game), great battery life, theming that allows me to black out the white menus and I'm very happy on both my devices. Would I be happy on stock? I don't know, and I understand not everyone wants to flash alternate ROMs. What I do think is that Lollipop takes a while to settle in and make sure you don't have an app that is incompatible (Samsung messed with ART). If you dive into it for only a couple of days, and you are really used to KitKat, of course you will want to go back. After using Lollipop for a while now, I would never go back.
Just my opinion. Not trying to sell anything to folks who disagree.
It`s great if you can tune lollipop the way you want, but most people cannot do this, and get stuck on a buggy stock rom until the next official update, which might never arrive, thank-you Samsung.
John.
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To be honest, while my initial reactions to Lollipop on both my TAB S and my Nexus 5 was less than favorable, after finding the right alternate ROMs I am very happy. Great performance (I don't game), great battery life, theming that allows me to black out the white menus and I'm very happy on both my devices. Would I be happy on stock? I don't know, and I understand not everyone wants to flash alternate ROMs. What I do think is that Lollipop takes a while to settle in and make sure you don't have an app that is incompatible (Samsung messed with ART). If you dive into it for only a couple of days, and you are really used to KitKat, of course you will want to go back. After using Lollipop for a while now, I would never go back.
Just my opinion. Not trying to sell anything to folks who disagree.
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Tend to agree. At first I wasn't keen on lollipop, but after using for a while and a little tweaking its running just fine. Dont know what this ram leak thing is all about as I've seen nothing of it. I would have thought, whatever that was, almost all manufacturers would have patched it by now including Samsung.
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Tend to agree. At first I wasn't keen on lollipop, but after using for a while and a little tweaking its running just fine. Dont know what this ram leak thing is all about as I've seen nothing of it. I would have thought, whatever that was, almost all manufacturers would have patched it by now including Samsung.
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I have lolipop on three devices Nexus 5&10 (5.1.1) and a Tab S 10.5 (5.0.2). Right from the beginning both tablets have been rock solid with a small but noticable bump in speed. On the other hand my Nexus 5 lost its rock solid kitkat stability and no matter what I do, short of re-flashing Kitkat, I cannot seem to fix it.
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Did you do an reset before or after updating to lollipop, as you say you have had no problems.
John.
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I have lolipop on three devices Nexus 5&10 (5.1.1) and a Tab S 10.5 (5.0.2). Right from the beginning both tablets have been rock solid with a small but noticable bump in speed. On the other hand my Nexus 5 lost its rock solid kitkat stability and no matter what I do, short of re-flashing Kitkat, I cannot seem to fix it.
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Did you do an reset before or after updating to lollipop, as you say you have had no problems.
John.
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Assuming you are asking about my Tab S experience, I used the guide in this forum to root without tripping Knox. I had to downgrade to stock Kitkat then root then upgrade to stock Lollipop. As soon as you downgrade using Odin you must do a factory reset in stock recovery, so yes I reset and always after the firmware change. In fact I've done the whole process several times as I've tried theming and every time I changed framework-res.apk it borked the UI and I need to do the whole process again.
At this time I've sworn off changing framework-res.apk. It is not a total write off as Flashfire back ups recover everything like a nadroid backup. Its weakness is that if you cannot start the app you can not do a restore. All that due to not wanting to loose my warranty on a two month old device so cannot flash a custom recovery like TWRP.
I did successfully flash from Lollipop B0E2 to B0E3 (boot, recover, system images) using Flashfire. That upgrade did not require a factory reset. In fact my user data, apps, root (SuperSU) and settings remained intact. All I need to do was re-flash any SuperSU policies I had previously installed along with any apps I installed in /system such as Viper4Android.
Specifically the upgrade and resulting experience was almost identical to upgrading Lollipop on my Nexus devices (5.0 through to 5.1.1), which is very easy and never required a factory reset. Although I usually clear the cache/dalvik just to be safe.
Ok, so I hate asking this question but I need to update from my S4 because I want a better camera, and faster CPU so I can't try the roms directly
I am looking at the Note 4 or Galaxy S5. Unfortunately the S5 looks like it has more active support, but I really want a Note 4 because of the better hardware (basically everything, UHS Storage, more RAM, CPU, bigger battery, Optical Stabilization...)
What ROMs are you all running as a daily driver? I've been searching and it doesn't look like there are a ton of super stable ROM's in active support like with the S5
I prefer AOSP but stability is most important to me (having a fully functional phone). My least favorite thing in the world is when my GPS stops working right when I need to take a turn in chaotic traffic
investinwaffles said:
Ok, so I hate asking this question but I need to update from my S4 because I want a better camera, and faster CPU so I can't try the roms directly
I am looking at the Note 4 or Galaxy S5. Unfortunately the S5 looks like it has more active support, but I really want a Note 4 because of the better hardware (basically everything, UHS Storage, more RAM, CPU, bigger battery, Optical Stabilization...)
What ROMs are you all running as a daily driver? I've been searching and it doesn't look like there are a ton of super stable ROM's in active support like with the S5
I prefer AOSP but stability is most important to me (having a fully functional phone). My least favorite thing in the world is when my GPS stops working right when I need to take a turn in chaotic traffic
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I ain't gonna get into a whole Rom comparison story, again. But i will state this. The N4 is an awesome phone, straight up, nothing compares to it. I just bought another one. But as it is aging, development on it is slowing down, But there are a handful of great devs still here with amazing work. I use to also like aosp for its lean state but i would have to say touchwiz is less error prone. Only my opinion though!
I can't compare it with the s5 development , never looked there.
Came from a s5... No regrets.
Note 4 is superior.
Thanks for responding fellas.
Are you both running the stock Samsung firmware??
I dont know if I can handle TouchWiz, but at the same time I don't think I can give up the Note 4 hardware (over the s5).
I think I'm going to pick one up and play with it. If none of the AOSP roms is stable enough for me, I'll stick with a model TouchWiz rom or go back to stock. I'll update this when I figure out that part!
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Well shoot - I managed to snag an S5 for $60 on ebay - sight un-seen. From one of those larger used phone re-sellers
Probably half as cheap but I am going to sorely miss OSS from the Note 4, increased battery, quick charge, and UHS storage. I figure I can sell my S4 off, and upgrade to a Note 4 in the future.
Good news is that Lineage OS is officially supported on the Sprint S5, ASOP is a huge reason that I love Android (and kind of loathe Samsung)
I have a Sprint Note 4 for sale for $150. Combined with the OBAR Rom and a ZeroLemon 10,000 mah battery this phone is a tank. Mine just ate dirt after I updated it to 6.0.1. DO NOT UPDATE. Two days after the update I got EMMC error (Nand died) and now anyone else I speak to about the 6.0.1 update killed their phone. I bought two Note 4's and put OBAR back on it. No issues and everything runs fast and smooth.
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I have a Sprint Note 4 for sale for $150. Combined with the OBAR Rom and a ZeroLemon 10,000 mah battery this phone is a tank. Mine just ate dirt after I updated it to 6.0.1. DO NOT UPDATE. Two days after the update I got EMMC error (Nand died) and now anyone else I speak to about the 6.0.1 update killed their phone. I bought two Note 4's and put OBAR back on it. No issues and everything runs fast and smooth.
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Hell I have updated, and down graded my phone numerous times, and phone still rock solid.. I went back to 5.1.1 because it is faster, battery life can't be beat, plus you do not have to give permission each time you install a app.. Also I can get rid of all Sprint bloat ware without using a 3rd party app. I also like the square icons rather than the rounded, and the icon size is perfect.
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Hell I have updated, and down graded my phone numerous times, and phone still rock solid.. I went back to 5.1.1 because it is faster, battery life can't be beat, plus you do not have to give permission each time you install a app.. Also I can get rid of all Sprint bloat ware without using a 3rd party app. I also like the square icons rather than the rounded, and the icon size is perfect.
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Preach doubledragon :laugh:
yea im still rocking my note 4 on 5.1.1
and i jus cant seem to be happy with 6.0 yet ughh but far as OP man there are great roms to make you like it
Im currently running the rom in my signature with xposed too
but you will love the N4 :fingers-crossed:
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Preach doubledragon :laugh:
yea im still rocking my note 4 on 5.1.1
and i jus cant seem to be happy with 6.0 yet ughh but far as OP man there are great roms to make you like it
Im currently running the rom in my signature with xposed too
but you will love the N4 :fingers-crossed:
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Asked in another thread, hoping tha can help with this....
Have modembase pg1 with mm.
Tha_Dynasty.... Thoughts on if heading over to hybrid 3.0 will have an impact on signal reliability?
Came from s5 and I keep getting dropped signals... In places where I didn't have an issue before.
Tha... Any thoughts?
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Asked in another thread, hoping tha can help with this....
Have modembase pg1 with mm.
Tha_Dynasty.... Thoughts on if heading over to hybrid 3.0 will have an impact on signal reliability?
Came from s5 and I keep getting dropped signals... In places where I didn't have an issue before.
Tha... Any thoughts?
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I don't use sprint service myself but a few people I talk to seem to like PK1 or QC1 !
mrtomaso said:
Asked in another thread, hoping tha can help with this....
Have modembase pg1 with mm.
Tha_Dynasty.... Thoughts on if heading over to hybrid 3.0 will have an impact on signal reliability?
Came from s5 and I keep getting dropped signals... In places where I didn't have an issue before.
Tha... Any thoughts?
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Well PG1 is MM (6.0) so if you wanna stay on it id look for a MM rom
how ever Hybrid 3.0 is LP (5.1) and yes my signal is much better on 5.1 than 6.0 but each phone is different
but for me hybrid is perfect no random reboots and been using it as a daily driver for a lil more than a full year
and it plays nice with xposed... can help if you need it.
the op will have the necessary steps to revert back to 5.1 if need be :good:
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Well PG1 is MM (6.0) so if you wanna stay on it id look for a MM rom
how ever Hybrid 3.0 is LP (5.1) and yes my signal is much better on 5.1 than 6.0 but each phone is different
but for me hybrid is perfect no random reboots and been using it as a daily driver for a lil more than a full year
and it plays nice with xposed... can help if you need it.
the op will have the necessary steps to revert back to 5.1 if need be :good:
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Awesome... Looking forward to heading back to lollipop. Downloading the 2gb base now. Only source I found has a paywall in place , slow going.
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but for me hybrid is perfect no random reboots and been using it as a daily driver for a lil more than a full year
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Wow...
This blows away my expectations. Better signal, smooth as butter and everything works!
Thanks for your help!
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Wow...
This blows away my expectations. Better signal, smooth as butter and everything works!
Thanks for your help!
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glad it worked out for you
:good:
Im running the ultimate note 7 hybrid Rom 6.1
Lately it's been seeming sluggish
You all still think 5.1 is fastest or most stable combination?
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Im running the ultimate note 7 hybrid Rom 6.1
Lately it's been seeming sluggish
You all still think 5.1 is fastest or most stable combination?
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I went back to 5.1 again , sfter trying 6.0, and not going back. Next step will sell phone.
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Im running the ultimate note 7 hybrid Rom 6.1
Lately it's been seeming sluggish
You all still think 5.1 is fastest or most stable combination?
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I was on 6 with my Note 4 and Note edge. I cant downgrade from Marshmallow on the Edge, so I went back to the 4 since you go all the way back to kit kat. Note 4 + 5.1.1 + Hybrid Rom + xposed = happiness
Hello all !
I recently buy an samsung galaxy s9, I love it because of his size, today all manufacturers are racing for the biggest screen diagonal, but forget about the people who like compact phones.
the only thing I don't like is that the battery doesn't really last. I use some social networks like instagram or whatsapp to chat and the battery is not consistent enough for me, I think. (I uninstalled the bloatware app and made a maximum of optimization).
So I'm thinking about the solution of installing a custom rom. I'm doing some research and I like the pixel experience or the lineageOS.
The reason of my post is to ask you, you who know much better than me, is it really going to increase the duration of use?
Do you have any advice on this ? I read that you have to calibrate the battery after installing a rom but maybe you have other advice, a rom in particular, settings to do ?
For rooting i find this thread in this forum > https://www.thecustomdroid.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-root/
but i got a SM-G960U1 that is not supported..
Thanks you a lot for all ur answer and information good to know XDA members !
Well I have a galaxy S9(5.8" size) and it's running NezukoOS with android 11. Pretty fluid and with light use I can get it to last me all day long, however I turn it off during night. If you really want more battery life, you should considerer using a custom kernel, as that is what is really going to improve battery life. The custom ROM will bring new features and make your phone feel different, but it usually doesn't improves battery life(at least the ones I tried out didn't help battery at all).
Hope this is useful!
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Well I have a galaxy S9(5.8" size) and it's running NezukoOS with android 11. Pretty fluid and with light use I can get it to last me all day long, however I turn it off during night. If you really want more battery life, you should considerer using a custom kernel, as that is what is really going to improve battery life. The custom ROM will bring new features and make your phone feel different, but it usually doesn't improves battery life(at least the ones I tried out didn't help battery at all).
Hope this is useful!
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Very helpful, thanks
Can you recommend a kernel for better battery life?
And another question to NezukoOS or general AOSP roms.. can you unlock the device by pressing the 'invisible' home button on the screen? Is this option still available in these roms?
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Very helpful, thanks
Can you recommend a kernel for better battery life?
And another question to NezukoOS or general AOSP roms.. can you unlock the device by pressing the 'invisible' home button on the screen? Is this option still available in these roms?
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I used Nezuko Os and Yes the invisible home button was working for me.. But i switch now from nezuko back to the stock ffirmware cause i love the one ui design etc..
sorry for my bad english Greetings From Germany!!
Well I never used a custom kernel as I didn't had any problems with battery life, but I do know a ROM which comes with a modded kernel. It's call Noble ROM, and brings ONE UI 3 with android 11 to the galaxy S9. I tried it out and it works pretty good, and when you install it you have a modded kernel that will ask you if you want to improve performance or battery life, here is the link if you are interested on it https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-03-2021-sm-n960f-fd-n-sm-g96xf-fd-n.4244747/ However if you prefer the stock Android I can't really help you, but for sure there are a lot of kernels on XDA forums, you just need to search one.
With the 'invisible' button, on all ROMs I tried(EvolutionX, Pixel Experience, HavacOS...) when the screen is off and you press it, the phone turns on, but once the screen is on it dones't work anymore. I didn't miss it actually, because I use navigation gestures, so the only moment I used was to turn it on. I don't know if that answers your question... Also I didn't find any options to modify pressure sensitivity on settings.
If you still have any questions feel free to ask me!
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Well I never used a custom kernel as I didn't had any problems with battery life, but I do know a ROM which comes with a modded kernel. It's call Noble ROM, and brings ONE UI 3 with android 11 to the galaxy S9. I tried it out and it works pretty good, and when you install it you have a modded kernel that will ask you if you want to improve performance or battery life, here is the link if you are interested on it https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-03-2021-sm-n960f-fd-n-sm-g96xf-fd-n.4244747/ However if you prefer the stock Android I can't really help you, but for sure there are a lot of kernels on XDA forums, you just need to search one.
With the 'invisible' button, on all ROMs I tried(EvolutionX, Pixel Experience, HavacOS...) when the screen is off and you press it, the phone turns on, but once the screen is on it dones't work anymore. I didn't miss it actually, because I use navigation gestures, so the only moment I used was to turn it on. I don't know if that answers your question... Also I didn't find any options to modify pressure sensitivity on settings.
If you still have any questions feel free to ask me!
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I also tried noble Rome, but every time it was very laggy and the interior assistant almost always crashed. I had to restart my device very often. My phone had also overheated and I uninstalled it again. no matter how often I did a reflash it was always laggy as described above
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I also tried noble Rome, but every time it was very laggy and the interior assistant almost always crashed. I had to restart my device very often. My phone had also overheated and I uninstalled it again. no matter how often I did a reflash it was always laggy as described above
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I also tried noble Rome, but every time it was very laggy and the interior assistant almost always crashed. I had to restart my device very often. My phone had also overheated and I uninstalled it again. no matter how often I did a reflash it was always laggy as described above.
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Oh yeah that's bad. My phone also overheated when I tried it however I thought it could be because I overclock it's CPU. My main problem was the camera didn't work almost all times and I needed to restart the phone continuously, so I went back to NezukoOS.
I also liked ONE UI however I don't know if that happened to you but my phone was very slow on ONE UI and animations almost all times were very laggy. That's why I start using AOSP, and also because I really like the new features.
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Oh yeah that's bad. My phone also overheated when I tried it however I thought it could be because I overclock it's CPU. My main problem was the camera didn't work almost all times and I needed to restart the phone continuously, so I went back to NezukoOS.
I also liked ONE UI however I don't know if that happened to you but my phone was very slow on ONE UI and animations almost all times were very laggy. That's why I start using AOSP, and also because I really like the new features.
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I am also considering whether I should stay with aosp or go back to the sttock firmware. Both have advantages and disadvantages
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I am also considering whether I should stay with aosp or go back to the sttock firmware. Both have advantages and disadvantages
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I don't bo back because of various reasons. First and more important, it's starting to be obsolete and Android 12 is going to be released in August I think, which makes android 10 be 2 years old. Also this customs ROMs give a lot of features that I don't find on the original ONE UI, like caffeine. Finally, performance. My phone was slow and laggy on stock firmware but now its super fast, as if it was brand new. Hope this help you decide.
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I don't bo back because of various reasons. First and more important, it's starting to be obsolete and Android 12 is going to be released in August I think, which makes android 10 be 2 years old. Also this customs ROMs give a lot of features that I don't find on the original ONE UI, like caffeine. Finally, performance. My phone was slow and laggy on stock firmware but now its super fast, as if it was brand new. Hope this help you decide.
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Right. I just reinstalled nezuko os. It actually runs a lot smoother!!
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Right. I just reinstalled nezuko os. It actually runs a lot smoother!!
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Yeah I imagine that would happen. Glad to know we have one more user on this ROM
Wow very nice posts of all of you guys thanks a lot.
What do you think about arrow os? I am undetermined which one i should give a try. I prefer a very clean and hardly debloated os.
Some experiences?
I dont like the Samsung stuff so i'd like to try aosp. I think i can live without volte and wifi call
No problem! Glad to know that this is useful.
I tried Arrow OS however I used it only for 2 days. The ROM was good and seem to be stable however it didn't have a function which for me was crucial, smart charging (charges your phone only to 80% to slow down its degradation) so I went back to NezukoOS. Arrow OS and AOSP are in general don't have bloatware and useless applications preinstalled however if you don't want a lot of features PixelExpirience(not the plus version) is going to be good for you. It's simple, very smooth and almost identical to a Google Pixel experience. LineageOS and ArrowOS however have more features built-in.
Hope this helps you choose!
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Wow very nice posts of all of you guys thanks a lot.
What do you think about arrow os? I am undetermined which one i should give a try. I prefer a very clean and hardly debloated os.
Some experiences?
I dont like the Samsung stuff so i'd like to try aosp. I think i can live without volte and wifi call
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