Lets Talk Bloat - Sprint Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I running Stock Rooted PK1, I have Titanium Back up and root installed.. I went and removed a lot of bloat ware. But here is the issue I have with newer roms.. When your done and rebooted, I have notice the bloat icons are still there.. If you go and try to remove them exp. Google games, movies the only option you have is to turn it off.. What happened to Titanium actually removing all of that for you.. And I have also noticed when you uninstall it, you start to notice a lot of FC as well.. I have also tried this with stock rooted roms that have some of the bloat already removed, but no enough of it for me.. Has anyone here notice the same thing? Or what is the solution for this.. When I want to get rid of something on my system, I want it completely gone, not just part of it..

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DaggettBeaver said:
I'm disappointed. I thought this thread was going to be about Amy Schumer.
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LOL sorry.

Chances are TB is just uninstalling the updates and not the app itself. Try manually checking in system\app or system\priv-app for a folder containing the application. If it's there delete it and reboot, that'll remove them permanently. Be careful though as some apps will begin a fc that won't go away even after reboot. Make a backup first.
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wgrant said:
Chances are TB is just uninstalling the updates and not the app itself. Try manually checking in system\app or system\priv-app for a folder containing the application. If it's there delete it and reboot, that'll remove them permanently. Be careful though as some apps will begin a fc that won't go away even after reboot. Make a backup first.
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Thanks got it all done. Now for a new issue my screen won't rotate. #0*# doesn't work.. Hell I might have to do a full restore, as I can't test my sensor.

All right my screen rotation back, by simply going back to full stock, the rerooting.. Anyone have a list of all the bloat that is safe to remove.. I think I might have removed something that cause the screen roataing issue in the first place.

doubledragon5 said:
All right my screen rotation back, by simply going back to full stock, the rerooting.. Anyone have a list of all the bloat that is safe to remove.. I think I might have removed something that cause the screen roataing issue in the first place.
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If you remove Facebook with an app like titanium, you could possibly lose /system/lib/libgnustl_shared.so which has been known for a long time to cause loss of rotation. Why that happens going way back in KitKat, I dunno. Just like I dunno why titanium update zip needs user edit since Lollipop. Great app but needs some work.
You could copy and save /system/lib/libgnustl_shared.so before removing Facebook since you're on stock so you have it to restore, if lost. Or get it from your Note 4 ROM zip if flashed.
I'm usually very conservative with bloat removal. Try freezing and check for effects before uninstalling; you know what to check now.
I'm more concerned about the apps that auto run in background without user launching so watch for that. Useless apps take resources away from rooted users; most likely you want to make resources available for custom apps. So make room for them. Debloat makes sense as long as you're not removing function.
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Now that we have perm root, titanium backup

guys, i cant stress this enough and i'm sure the old android heads here will agree with me. their are many many different android phones out there that have root. And although they're all different they all have a few apps in common. setcpu, rom manager, terminal, titanium back up.
I just want to touch base on Titanium backup.
It allows you to totally remove any app, including bloat ware. You can also suspend apps.
the freeze feature was handy because i enjoy sense but didn't like its apps and widgets hogging ram for no reason; considering i never used those sense apps. it netted in a nice battery and performance gain, at least.
one awesome thing about TB is the ability to back up your apps and reinstall all of them. the whole experience is as streamlined as batch market downloading and waaaaaay better than astro file managers one at a time annoying install.
Also, after a full wipe you will definitely want to run market dr so u can easily keep tabs on your updates.
in short, you wouldn't bang her/him without a condom right? well don't flash with out titanium backup!
I totally recommend the paid version!!!!!
So now we can uninstall completely without consequences web2go, Pico TTS, Quickoffice, Listen , Home screen tips, Google Skymaps, Google Translate, Goggles, Finance, wifi calling, etc ??
I was about to but i got a message that said i might have to reinstall the ROM if something craps out...
mauaus said:
So now we can uninstall completely without consequences web2go, Pico TTS, Quickoffice, Listen , Home screen tips, Google Skymaps, Google Translate, Goggles, Finance, wifi calling, etc ??
I was about to but i got a message that said i might have to reinstall the ROM if something craps out...
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you should be able too delete what u want. I wouldn't remove wifi calling though lol
I would wait for a clockwork recovery version to be available. This way u can make a backup before u delete all that
sheek360 said:
you should be able too delete what u want. I wouldn't remove wifi calling though lol
I would wait for a clockwork recovery version to be available. This way u can make a backup before u delete all that
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Im not with tmo it says invalid sim so its of no use to me. Is there a workaround?
mauaus said:
Im not with tmo it says invalid sim so its of no use to me. Is there a workaround?
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oh i see,
in regards to a backup? i think itll be best to be safe than sorry and wait till clockwork recovery is released.
is there a big difference between the free and paid version? what im asking is would i still be able to do back up and delete bloatware with the free version
The batch is MUCH better with the paid version, definitely well worth it
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The batch is MUCH better with the paid version, definitely well worth it
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I agree!!!!!!!!!
Just one thing: please don't forget that system apps (ie: apps that are part of your ROM) themselves can't be restored by TitaniumBackup for now. Only their data is backed up. So if somebody is not 100% sure about removing a system app, it's wise to try freezing it first -because that's easy to undo.
So how do we do the remove of unwanted apps
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[Q] Remove 'Garbage' Widgets

I applied the latest RUU for the Droid Incredible (November 2010 Edition). In the past, I always updated the phone, Got Root Access and performed a Nandroid Backup before removing all the Bloatware/Crapware on my phone.
However, this time I am getting very different results.
After the Nandroid, I delete everything I don't want via Root Explorer. I would delete the obvious ones such as City ID, VZ Nav, Teeter, and a bunch of HTC widgets like Footprints, Contacts Calculator, etc.
I was told that if I go into my settings and 'Clear Data' on HTC Sense that it will get rid of the shortcut to the deleted widgets on the Add Widget Window. It always worked in the past except not on this release.
I have reinstalled the RUU several times to make sure it wasn't a n installation error (of course I am performing a wipe). Any one have any suggestions.
Also is there an updated list of what programs are safe to remove?
Thanks.
Why not flash a "senseless ROM"? there are a number of them out there. You lose the stock Rosie and are forced to use either ADW or Launcher Pro. They alsy delete many of the things you have no interest in keeping.
Just another option.
Because I like Sense. I love the HTC Calendar Widget, HTC Clock Widget (with the full screen weather animation), HTC Tip Calculator and the stock HTC Keyboard (Hence why there is also an equal amount of Sense ROMs out there too).
Nothing I have seen out there comes close to what I like.
I've always just used the system app remover from the market
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Thanks. I'll give that a shot and report back.
Edit: No doesn't work. I uninstalled System App Remover and Got Refunded. It looks like it can't be done because even the Virtuous ROM has the same issue. Oh well maybe in time someone will figure it out.
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Thanks. I'll give that a shot and report back.
Edit: No doesn't work. I uninstalled System App Remover and Got Refunded. It looks like it can't be done because even the Virtuous ROM has the same issue. Oh well maybe in time someone will figure it out.
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I would try removing the apps with Titanium Backup if you haven't. That's what I normally use to remove bloatware. If you "Freeze" the apps, the widgets may be removed, also.
Also, could someone let me in on the secret for adding a custom signature with my ROM/Kernel/Radio/Phone/etc.? I'm new to XDA.
The widgets are gone it's the shortcut for them that need to be removed. RMK had a method of removing these prior to Froyo update 1 which doesn't work anymore.
If you know what the app names are, you can use 7 zip to remove the apk's from the app folder before flashing the Rom.
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kekspernikai said:
I would try removing the apps with Titanium Backup if you haven't. That's what I normally use to remove bloatware. If you "Freeze" the apps, the widgets may be removed, also.
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It works. It gets rid of the garbage shortcuts now. However, you can't put widgets on your homescreens anymore. Very weird. Because the widgets I want to put on my screen are installed.
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If you know what the app names are, you can use 7 zip to remove the apk's from the app folder before flashing the Rom.
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I'll give that a shot too. However, without even doing it, I think it won't work because of the SQL entries left behind.
I am just being real anal. The garbage widgets shouldn't bother me but I want it to be clean.
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Also, could someone let me in on the secret for adding a custom signature with my ROM/Kernel/Radio/Phone/etc.? I'm new to XDA.
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Click on USER CP at the top of this page.
UndergroundWire said:
The widgets are gone it's the shortcut for them that need to be removed. RMK had a method of removing these prior to Froyo update 1 which doesn't work anymore.
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Did you ever manage to work out how to remove the deleted widgets from the list?

[Q] Remove System Apps??

hey guys i rooted my phone a few weeks back and now an running synergy sense 3.0.
how do i go about deleting the system apps or stock apps that phone will not simply let u uninstall is there an app to do that or do i have to go through the phone hardware itself??
View attachment SdxAppRemoval-1.5.apk
i use this
be careful you can delete important stuff, use caution. back up first!!
I use Titanium Backup to remove system apps.
It has the capability to "freeze" them without actually removing them. This is helpful when you don't really want to get rid of it permanently but just want to stop it from running on its own.
It also allows you to be sure that no problems will be caused by removing the app. If something else depends on it and you start getting force closes you can thaw the app to recover it.
Once you are sure that you want to be rid of it forever you can remove it completely.
off the top your head do u know what all can be removed without messing up pone?
+1 for using Titanium Backup to remove system apps.
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off the top your head do u know what all can be removed without messing up pone?
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At one time I saw someone here trying to build a comprehensive list. Definitely can remove the 'bloat' like Amazon MP3, NASCAR, NFL, Kindle, Nova, Sprint Navigation, and the other Sprint apps.
Things that get you into trouble are things that are integrated into Android (like Google Talk) or HTC Sense.
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This is the list I was thinking of:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...EZSd1pFTy1OTlEzWTZkZ3BpS2JXdlE&hl=en_US#gid=0
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misfits MisfitROmV1.2 with ChopSuey kernel works really REALLY well for me and it dosent have almost all the stuff and you can download the stuff you want, (i just did youtube and maps) only downside is he aint around no more. still rom works great

so I've rooted my OGP. Now what?

Rooted it today. First android phone I've ever owned (though been jailbreaking since 2009).
I installed Ttanium Backup, and i think i backed up my apps and data, but not exactly sure where to, as i don't have an SD card in it yet. If I backed up to the phone, I'm guessing that's mostly useless. But I'm new to this stuff so i don't really know.
So, now that i have root access, what apps should i be installing?
What stuff should i be uninstalling or freezing?
What cool things can i now do that i couldn't do yesterday?
Anything specific to the OGP that i should or should not do?
andygold said:
Rooted it today. First android phone I've ever owned (though been jailbreaking since 2009).
I installed Ttanium Backup, and i think i backed up my apps and data, but not exactly sure where to as i don't have an SD card in it yet. If I backed up to the phone, I'm guessing that's mostly useless. But I'm new to this stuff so i don't really know.
So, now that i have root access, what apps should i be installing?
What stuff should i be uninstalling our freezing?
What cool things can i now do that i couldn't do yesterday?
Anything specific to the OGP that i should or should not do?
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You can block ads, search adaway here on xda since Google recently rid the store of all ad blocking apps. You can use programs like sqlite editor to enable hotspot even if you're not subscribed to a plan that supports it. You can use xposed framework also here on xda (under our phones themes and apps) to apply themes to the phone. You can disable built in apps using titanium backup. Also, you should install Cwm under android development for our phone and make a nandroid backup in case you ever screw up your phone.
Best of all, you can install greenify root to make your battery last a lot longer. It hibernates apps for you that would normally run in the background.
When we have our bootloader unlocked is when the real fun will start though.
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lessthanzach said:
You can block ads, search adaway here on xda since Google recently rid the store of all ad blocking apps. You can use programs like sqlite editor to enable hotspot even if you're not subscribed to a plan that supports it. You can use xposed framework also here on xda (under our phones themes and apps) to apply themes to the phone. You can disable built in apps using titanium backup. Also, you should install Cwm under android development for our phone and make a nandroid backup in case you ever screw up your phone.
Best of all, you can install greenify root to make your battery last a lot longer. It hibernates apps for you that would normally run in the background.
When we have our bootloader unlocked is when the real fun will start though.
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Thank you!
Couple more questions...I was able to do a search for adaway, and found it, but you mention (under our phones themes and apps), and could not find that. Is there a section that just has XDA Apps in it? All I was able to find was forums, and not repositories (don't know if that's the right word).
Basic newbie question...if an app is listed as being for Jellybean 4.1, can we use it even it was made for a Galaxy S3 for example? If it's Jellybean 4.1 is it good to go?
As to adaway...if you disable ads, will some programs refuse to run?
Is the hotspot app, safe for my phone bill?
If you "disable" apps using titanium backup, does it remove them from the phone, or just hide them? What is freezing an app? And if later you want to have them back (let's say for a trip to the cell store) are they readily returned to view?
I was under the impression (probably wrongly) that CWM at this point could brick our phone. Am I mistaken? And where does the nandroid backup get stored? Hopefully not on the phone...
I ask a lot of the above questions as being a new android user (2-weeks now), I'm clicking or checking out everything I see on the phone (and in the store(s) to learn about what it can do. I'm also installing a ton of apps that are new to me, and I've also gone to some non-Google Play stores to DL some stuff. I know that sooner or later I'm going to want to restore the phone to factory stock to get rid of conflicts, viruses (virii?), and anything that does not play well with other stuff. So, during this learning quest, I assume I'm going to frag the phone in some way, and will have the need to return it to stock (hopefully without needing to go back to the store)!!! I just want to have a bit of assurance that with everything I do, I can get back to stock.
Lastly, is there anything somewhat similar to iTunes that will make a restore a bit less time consuming. Is Titanium Backup what I"m searchnig for?
Wasn't aware of greenify root.. will give that one a go right now!
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lessthanzach said:
You can block ads, search adaway here on xda since Google recently rid the store of all ad blocking apps. You can use programs like sqlite editor to enable hotspot even if you're not subscribed to a plan that supports it. You can use xposed framework also here on xda (under our phones themes and apps) to apply themes to the phone. You can disable built in apps using titanium backup. Also, you should install Cwm under android development for our phone and make a nandroid backup in case you ever screw up your phone.
Best of all, you can install greenify root to make your battery last a lot longer. It hibernates apps for you that would normally run in the background.
When we have our bootloader unlocked is when the real fun will start though.
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Thanks for mention greenify root, I install it. It's a hit!!
Now that I'm rooted (and installed some associated apps) I've noticed some laggy operation. When I'm on pretty much any of the home screens, and click on the app drawer icon, I'm brought to the page where I see "Apps", "Downloads", and "Widgets" at the top, but occasionally I have a blank screen below that. It stays blank for anywhere from one to three seconds and then the apps and folders appear. Sometimes they will show up instantly, but quite often there is a few second lag. The only things I've installed since rooting are Root Checker, Titanium Backup and Greenify. I'm not sure whether it is the root or the new apps, so I guess I can uninstall the three apps and see.
I also seem to be getting the circling "please wait" message more often than in the past.
Anybody else experiencing this? And does this sound like a root issue or an issue from one of the three apps?

How do I debloat?

Yes I know what that means but I was doing this way and I was wondering if it did the same thing.
I was disabling the apps instead of uninstalling them; are they the same in the sense, to save battery
kevinrubio1 said:
Yes I know what that means but I was doing this way and I was wondering if it did the same thing.
I was disabling the apps instead of uninstalling them; are they the same in the sense, to save battery
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My understanding is that disabling (freezing in TiBu, etc) has the same outcome as uninstalling... just one method frees up space while the other one doesn't.
lordcheeto03 said:
My understanding is that disabling (freezing in TiBu, etc) has the same outcome as uninstalling... just one method frees up space while the other one doesn't.
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Check here. Its a very easy way to debloat any TW rom including stock :good:
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My understanding is that disabling (freezing in TiBu, etc) has the same outcome as uninstalling... just one method frees up space while the other one doesn't.
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This is true.
The advantage of freezing an app is that it can be quickly and eaasily unfrozen to get it back. Though backing up an app, uninstalling it, and reinstalling it accomplishes the same thing.
The advantage of uninstalling is that the app is gone. It's not taking up space. It can't be accidentally turned back on. It's gone. Done. History.
So it's more of a preference than anything else.
I will say that if you're talking about a custom rom that you're goign to update somewhat frequently and it comes with apps that you consider bloat, it's better to freeze them than uninstall them. Otherwise when you install the next update of that rom, the system apps you uninstalled will come back. But if you freeze them, the frozen system apps will stay frozen after the update. So it eliminates the step of having to get rid of them again.
For instance Cyanogen comes with a CM Wallpaper app that has a bunch of CM wallpapers. I will never use it. I don't want to see the icon for it. So I freeze it once. When I update the next nightly, it's still frozen. If CM puts out a stable release that I plan to keep fro a couple months, maybe I'll uninstall the Wallpaper app completely.
Also for help debloating, consider Alka Seltzer. Plop plop. Fizz fizz. On what a relief it is!

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