I applied the latest RUU for the Droid Incredible (November 2010 Edition). In the past, I always updated the phone, Got Root Access and performed a Nandroid Backup before removing all the Bloatware/Crapware on my phone.
However, this time I am getting very different results.
After the Nandroid, I delete everything I don't want via Root Explorer. I would delete the obvious ones such as City ID, VZ Nav, Teeter, and a bunch of HTC widgets like Footprints, Contacts Calculator, etc.
I was told that if I go into my settings and 'Clear Data' on HTC Sense that it will get rid of the shortcut to the deleted widgets on the Add Widget Window. It always worked in the past except not on this release.
I have reinstalled the RUU several times to make sure it wasn't a n installation error (of course I am performing a wipe). Any one have any suggestions.
Also is there an updated list of what programs are safe to remove?
Thanks.
Why not flash a "senseless ROM"? there are a number of them out there. You lose the stock Rosie and are forced to use either ADW or Launcher Pro. They alsy delete many of the things you have no interest in keeping.
Just another option.
Because I like Sense. I love the HTC Calendar Widget, HTC Clock Widget (with the full screen weather animation), HTC Tip Calculator and the stock HTC Keyboard (Hence why there is also an equal amount of Sense ROMs out there too).
Nothing I have seen out there comes close to what I like.
I've always just used the system app remover from the market
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Thanks. I'll give that a shot and report back.
Edit: No doesn't work. I uninstalled System App Remover and Got Refunded. It looks like it can't be done because even the Virtuous ROM has the same issue. Oh well maybe in time someone will figure it out.
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Thanks. I'll give that a shot and report back.
Edit: No doesn't work. I uninstalled System App Remover and Got Refunded. It looks like it can't be done because even the Virtuous ROM has the same issue. Oh well maybe in time someone will figure it out.
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I would try removing the apps with Titanium Backup if you haven't. That's what I normally use to remove bloatware. If you "Freeze" the apps, the widgets may be removed, also.
Also, could someone let me in on the secret for adding a custom signature with my ROM/Kernel/Radio/Phone/etc.? I'm new to XDA.
The widgets are gone it's the shortcut for them that need to be removed. RMK had a method of removing these prior to Froyo update 1 which doesn't work anymore.
If you know what the app names are, you can use 7 zip to remove the apk's from the app folder before flashing the Rom.
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I would try removing the apps with Titanium Backup if you haven't. That's what I normally use to remove bloatware. If you "Freeze" the apps, the widgets may be removed, also.
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It works. It gets rid of the garbage shortcuts now. However, you can't put widgets on your homescreens anymore. Very weird. Because the widgets I want to put on my screen are installed.
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If you know what the app names are, you can use 7 zip to remove the apk's from the app folder before flashing the Rom.
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I'll give that a shot too. However, without even doing it, I think it won't work because of the SQL entries left behind.
I am just being real anal. The garbage widgets shouldn't bother me but I want it to be clean.
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Also, could someone let me in on the secret for adding a custom signature with my ROM/Kernel/Radio/Phone/etc.? I'm new to XDA.
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UndergroundWire said:
The widgets are gone it's the shortcut for them that need to be removed. RMK had a method of removing these prior to Froyo update 1 which doesn't work anymore.
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Did you ever manage to work out how to remove the deleted widgets from the list?
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I must be a complete noob. But i've been trying to figure out how to use this program, but i don't know how to turn it on? Not listed under widget or apps or... how in the world do i try this out??!
You won't want to use it unless you are rooted and remove HTC Sense.
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You won't want to use it unless you are rooted and remove HTC Sense.
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Not exactly...the new update blocks you from using other launchers.
If you don't have the update it'll work without root and you don't need to remove sense.
On the other hand, if you have the update you will need to root your phone first.
Davwf26 said:
I must be a complete noob. But i've been trying to figure out how to use this program, but i don't know how to turn it on? Not listed under widget or apps or... how in the world do i try this out??!
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That is because it is not technically an app, at least not the type that you are accustomed to using. Do this to get it to work.
1. Go to Settings ---> Applications ---> Manage Applications
2. After the list loads scroll down to HTC Sense, tap "Clear Defaults" and "Force Stop"
Touch the home button and it should give you an option on which launcher you would like to load.
Hope this helps!
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That is because it is not technically an app, at least not the type that you are accustomed to using. Do this to get it to work.
1. Go to Settings ---> Applications ---> Manage Applications
2. After the list loads scroll down to HTC Sense, tap "Clear Defaults" and "Force Stop"
Touch the home button and it should give you an option on which launcher you would like to load.
Hope this helps!
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Already rooted and running fresh. And apparently this came with the most recent fresh update, but had no idea out to try it out! So thanks! This is exactly what i needed.
disabling sense and using the stock launcher was the only way to get my computer to see my phone. i tried launcher pro but my comp will not see my phone now, very very frustrating.
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Really?
I've been in root land so I haven't used it and I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't BLOCK other launchers, I think it just doesn't include the 2.1 AOSP launcher "Launcher 2."
As far as the system cares, your home screen is just an app like a browser or music app, it is just a matter of disabling which one is set as default. This can be done in the applications menu via the method described above, or you may find the application "Home Switcher" useful if you like to try out different home screen launchers?
I certainly could be wrong, but I would be surprised if they blocked the ability to turn off sense as the default.
You do not need to be rooted to use either ADW.Launcher nor LauncherPro.
I highly doubt the launcher is causing your computer to not see the device.
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You won't want to use it unless you are rooted and remove HTC Sense.
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Why? What does rooting, or removing Sense, have to do with using an alternative launcher? Take your time, be specific.
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Not exactly...the new update blocks you from using other launchers.
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No, the new OTA removes the stock Launcher2. It doesn't block anything.
If you don't have the update it'll work without root and you don't need to remove sense.
On the other hand, if you have the update you will need to root your phone first.
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Wrong. You can either use the Force Close trick to get Sense to close, or you can just grab Home Switcher from the Market and use that to close Sense.
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You do not need to be rooted to use either ADW.Launcher nor LauncherPro.
I highly doubt the launcher is causing your computer to not see the device.
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I doubt it either, but wit the stock launcher as default my comp saw my phone n that was the only way, wouldnt work wit sense. Wit the new update, they removed the launcher so i tried launcher pro as default n it didnt work. But the weird thing is that my computer at work sees my phone wit no problem, so it must be something within my comp that i cant seem to figure out. n my comp is fully updated n drivers are all up to date so its weird.
I just loaded launcher pro last night. Took me a while to figure it out too as it is NOT in the apps and there are NO instructions.
Is it just me...or is there some conspiracy in Android land to NEVER HAVE ANY INSTRUCTIONS!!!!!!!!
grrrr
Anyway...somehow one time I tapped the home button on phone and it popped up with a window that asked which one I wanted to use. No idea how I got it, but there it was. It had stock android, launcher, and sense listed. (I am still pre-ota). I have played around with all three.
However...honestly...I found launcher to be a complete slow tortoise! Seriously. Everyone hatin on Sense and Launcher was the slowest thing I have ever seen. And I hadn't even added any apps to it. Not sure I like it at all.
Only cool bit is the home screen rotation...which is what I was looking for. I should go leave comments on this....
LauncherPro is a speed demon and is great to use (been doing so since I found out about it).
I have no idea why it would be slow for you at all.
Cuz he has sense still running I would think
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Be sure to clean slate your HTC Sense Launcher. I am running EVOlution V9 now, so can't remember exactly where the option is; but it's there somewhere. I installed Launcher Pro on my Stock ROM yesterday before rooting and loved it. Everything worked great once I deleted everything off of my HTC Sense Launcher and set Launcher Pro to default. Running it on Froyo now as well.
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Cuz he has sense still running I would think
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You think? I heard so many great things about it, but it is nasty slow on my machine. So if I choose it from that pop up window...then you think sense is still trying to run but with that launcher??
So...how is this done? You have to actually get rid of sense or can you turn it off without root?
(ps...i do plan to root, but not until i make a decision in my 30 day period...yes, i have commitment issues!)
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You think? I heard so many great things about it, but it is nasty slow on my machine. So if I choose it from that pop up window...then you think sense is still trying to run but with that launcher??
So...how is this done? You have to actually get rid of sense or can you turn it off without root?
(ps...i do plan to root, but not until i make a decision in my 30 day period...yes, i have commitment issues!)
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Open Sense again. I think if you hit menu, something like "Scenes" or similar will appear. Select that and select "Clean Slate." That should clear your Sense homescreen.
Then try Launcher Pro again.
I want to remove the following from my phone;
Footprints,
Friendstream,
Teeter,
Stocks,
Peep,
HTC Mobile Guide,
News & Weather,
Weather
But when I go in through TB to uninstall I get a message saying that these are system packages and uninstalling them can trash things.
What effect will this really have my phone? Do I need any of them? I don't think I've ever used any of them, and don't think I will, although I do have facebook synced, and I use Beautiful Widgets for weather.
I used Titanium Backup to remove all of the aforementioned programs plus the Mobile NFL app. I would not touch anything related to the weather though since I have no idea what effect that would have on the rest of the system because I have not tried it myself.
One thing I can definitely tell you not to remove is anything and I mean ANYTHING related to Google Talk. I can tell you from experience how badly removing Talk can f'up your phone. The Market, as well other major apps and functions somehow all seem to be tied in with it for what reason I do not know (wtf Google?!).
You will lose Market if you remove Talk!
That said, before you remove anything, I suggest you back it up. TB will even allow you to "Freeze" an app before removing it to see what effect the removal will have.
Best of luck removing the bloatware!
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I used Titanium Backup to remove all of the aforementioned programs plus the Mobile NFL app. I would not touch anything related to the weather though since I have no idea what effect that would have on the rest of the system because I have not tried it myself.
One thing I can definitely tell you not to remove is anything and I mean ANYTHING related to Google Talk. I can tell you from experience how badly removing Talk can f'up your phone. The Market, as well other major apps and functions somehow all seem to be tied in with it for what reason I do not know (wtf Google?!).
You will lose Market if you remove Talk!
That said, before you remove anything, I suggest you back it up. TB will even allow you to "Freeze" an app before removing it to see what effect the removal will have.
Best of luck removing the bloatware!
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I'm curious what kinds of ill effects you saw from removing Talk? I wonder if HTC may have changed the integration of Talk within froyo, as I have seen no ill effects from removing talk. Maybe there is some kind of heinous error I am overlooking?
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I used Titanium Backup to remove all of the aforementioned programs plus the Mobile NFL app. I would not touch anything related to the weather though since I have no idea what effect that would have on the rest of the system because I have not tried it myself.
One thing I can definitely tell you not to remove is anything and I mean ANYTHING related to Google Talk. I can tell you from experience how badly removing Talk can f'up your phone. The Market, as well other major apps and functions somehow all seem to be tied in with it for what reason I do not know (wtf Google?!).
You will lose Market if you remove Talk!
That said, before you remove anything, I suggest you back it up. TB will even allow you to "Freeze" an app before removing it to see what effect the removal will have.
Best of luck removing the bloatware!
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thanks for the input - I'm trying to nail down an app that seems to be draining my battery, and I don't know what it is.
HTC/Google may well have changed the integration in FroYo but I know in Eclair everything was tied in with it. I'm going to freeze it and see what happens.
Edit: It appears the GTalk provider that was heavily integrated into previous versions of Android is no longer included in FroYo making it possible to safely remove the Talk app. Woo-hoo!
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I'm curious what kinds of ill effects you saw from removing Talk? I wonder if HTC may have changed the integration of Talk within froyo, as I have seen no ill effects from removing talk. Maybe there is some kind of heinous error I am overlooking?
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I rooted my phone and kept the stock Eclair for about 2 weeks, till I had the time to check out the roms. I removed all of those AND GOOGLE TALK immediately after rooting. I never received the 1st error/problem from uninstalling Talk. If I remember correctly, there were 2 Talk items(service and storage...I think) that I removed. If you only removed 1, maybe that's where there errors were coming from.
I also removed it in a stock Froyo with no negative effects.
EDIT: Didn't remove the weather though. I left that on.
When I was on stock Eclair I removed both the service provider and the app which caused the Market and other system apps to stop working. How many times do I have to repeat myself? Look it up, it is a common issue!
When I was on stock Eclair I removed both the service provider and the app which caused ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop working. The Market and other system apps WORKED PERFECTLY FINE. How many times do I have to repeat myself? I don't need to look it up, it was not an issue for me!......as it may not be for some others......
Whoooa there seems to be some blue-dispute going on in here! My money's on the dragon cause a dragon would take a beast any day. J/K guys...
Seriously though, OP you can remove all the ones you've listed safely except the last two weather and news/weather. I don't know how your phone would react because I've never removed those. You could make a custom rom yourself based off one of the stock roms and remove everything you think you want gone and then nandroid your current rom and flash the experimental and see what shakes loose. Just an idea.
I like to uninstall as much bloat as possible, and I've found that on some roms with sense 2.1/3.0 that something I am removing causes neither sense nor launcher pro to start upon boot. My status bar is in tact but I can't access anything in it. I usually restore all my user apps then uninstall bloat ware, and I keep deleting something on the newer sense that causes this. Any thoughts or ideas about whats ok to remove on some of the newer sense roms?
What ROM are you running? I'm sporting MikG 2.42, experimenting what I can remove and not. I'll have a list up in a minute, what works for me.
Do you want to get rid of HTC Hub, lockscreen and Rosie? Any HTC apps you want left in?
I'm using MIKG 2.42 at the moment. I remove all htc widgets, rosie, htc location services, htc location picker, sense (Yes I have launcher pro installed prior to removing sense/rosie), htc hub, I don't remove htc lockscreen as I've found that doing so causes me to not be able to answer phone calls.
Another issue I'm noticing, with 2.42, when I removed all the apps that were moved to data, when someone calls and my screen is off, I'm unable to answer, there is no slider or anything.
Usually what I do is use Root Explorer to delete apps out of System/Apps then Data/Apps then I wipe all of Data/Data. Then I boot into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik. That prevents the blank lockscreen/no slider thing.
I never noticed that stock lockscreen have-to-swipe call issue, thanks for pointing that out. Lemme flash back to MikG and tell you what I did leave in.. I always take out a lot.
When you peruse the system/app folder with a system level file manager like Root Explorer, I would argue that most of the apks that are listed are pretty self-explanatory and the associated icons also make it easy. For example: peep, flickr, Facebook, Twitter, FM Radio, Weather Wallpaper, etc. are well labeled as well as their associated widgets. If you are new to this, I recommend that you download and install the Titanium Backup app. With it, you can 'freeze' and app that you are considering removing but are unsure if it is safe to do so. 'Freezing' renders it useless and if you discover that you need that app or your device has become somewhat unstable with it being frozen, you can always "defrost' it.
Unfortunately none of my cards will work in purchasing Titanium Backup Pro... It's so annoying. I'm considering calling in my free Windows 7 upgrade, starting fresh with partitioning my hard drive and installing Ubuntu so I can start cooking a little.
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tropicalbrit said:
Usually what I do is use Root Explorer to delete apps out of System/Apps then Data/Apps then I wipe all of Data/Data. Then I boot into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik. That prevents the blank lockscreen/no slider thing.
I never noticed that stock lockscreen have-to-swipe call issue, thanks for pointing that out. Lemme flash back to MikG and tell you what I did leave in.. I always take out a lot.
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This would explain alot, I've noticed with these combo sense roms, not just MikG, that there is alot of stuff crammed into the rom, usually leaving me with only 30 or 40 megs of rom space. A full clean out of the other folders you mentioned would make sense. I've gone to AOSP for now, mainly evo deck. Once I removed the few items in evo deck I didn't want like wall papers and ringtones etc i got the rom down to 60 megs. The sense combo's are so jam packed with extras that it really takes away from the speed of the phone. Evodeck and AOSP is so small and tight I can't argue with the results. Thanks for the information, I would still love a solid list of things to remove and not to remove.
I have JJ Hybrid 3.1 installed with Sirkays kernel. Is there a way to reinstall some of the Sony apps like Weather Widget, Widget Select Widget, Alarm, Possibly even the home launcher? I tried copying the weather widget apk into system/apps with rw-r-r and rebooted but it still is not available in the ICS widgets menu.
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u cannot use some stock apps as these apps requires sony supporting files,which can only be found on stock roms..
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Can anyone recommend a stock ROM without McAfee and Wisepilot (the two apps I am unable to uninstall). Tweaked to be smoother, faster and more stable would be nice also.
Really I would like only Home launcher, Panorama, Weather widget, Alarm, Widget select widget, Turn things on and off widget (or a better status bar with toggles like some ROMs). Everything else can pretty much go to the bin
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Can anyone recommend a stock ROM without McAfee and Wisepilot (the two apps I am unable to uninstall).
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Install Titanium Backup and remove them.
To use the Sony widgets, you need to have the Sony home launcher. Else, it won't work.
You can easily remove McAfee and WisePilot once you root your phone. Either browse to the app location as root and delete it (or) use Titanium Backup as XperienceD suggested.
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I did (tried normal way and with Titanium) and it said they were uninstalled. Reboot the phone though and *POOF* they come back.
try root uninstaller and reboot they are gone for sure,
but why advice everyone titanium back up ?
in my eyes is it a sh*t app
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I did (tried normal way and with Titanium) and it said they were uninstalled. Reboot the phone though and *POOF* they come back.
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Ah, then uninstall them again, and look for two apks named McAfee and WisePilot, remove them before rebooting and the will be gone.
Pandemic said:
but why advice everyone titanium back up ?
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Because in a lot of Peoples eyes, it's a great app.
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Ah, then uninstall them again, and look for two apks named McAfee and WisePilot, remove them before rebooting and the will be gone.
Because in a lot of Peoples eyes, it's a great app.
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LOL tried that. They came back. The APK's that is.
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LOL tried that. They came back. The APK's that is.
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Then you need to look for another two AFTER uninstalling. I've seen this before and I can guarantee they can be removed, you just need to find the two apks that auto install.
There must be a copy of those two apks somewhere else and that's causing this problem.
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Copy .apk files from stock-based roms such as Arconium or MooDeD ICS. They are placed in "app" folder.
I running Stock Rooted PK1, I have Titanium Back up and root installed.. I went and removed a lot of bloat ware. But here is the issue I have with newer roms.. When your done and rebooted, I have notice the bloat icons are still there.. If you go and try to remove them exp. Google games, movies the only option you have is to turn it off.. What happened to Titanium actually removing all of that for you.. And I have also noticed when you uninstall it, you start to notice a lot of FC as well.. I have also tried this with stock rooted roms that have some of the bloat already removed, but no enough of it for me.. Has anyone here notice the same thing? Or what is the solution for this.. When I want to get rid of something on my system, I want it completely gone, not just part of it..
I'm disappointed. I thought this thread was going to be about Amy Schumer.
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I'm disappointed. I thought this thread was going to be about Amy Schumer.
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LOL sorry.
Chances are TB is just uninstalling the updates and not the app itself. Try manually checking in system\app or system\priv-app for a folder containing the application. If it's there delete it and reboot, that'll remove them permanently. Be careful though as some apps will begin a fc that won't go away even after reboot. Make a backup first.
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Chances are TB is just uninstalling the updates and not the app itself. Try manually checking in system\app or system\priv-app for a folder containing the application. If it's there delete it and reboot, that'll remove them permanently. Be careful though as some apps will begin a fc that won't go away even after reboot. Make a backup first.
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Thanks got it all done. Now for a new issue my screen won't rotate. #0*# doesn't work.. Hell I might have to do a full restore, as I can't test my sensor.
All right my screen rotation back, by simply going back to full stock, the rerooting.. Anyone have a list of all the bloat that is safe to remove.. I think I might have removed something that cause the screen roataing issue in the first place.
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All right my screen rotation back, by simply going back to full stock, the rerooting.. Anyone have a list of all the bloat that is safe to remove.. I think I might have removed something that cause the screen roataing issue in the first place.
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If you remove Facebook with an app like titanium, you could possibly lose /system/lib/libgnustl_shared.so which has been known for a long time to cause loss of rotation. Why that happens going way back in KitKat, I dunno. Just like I dunno why titanium update zip needs user edit since Lollipop. Great app but needs some work.
You could copy and save /system/lib/libgnustl_shared.so before removing Facebook since you're on stock so you have it to restore, if lost. Or get it from your Note 4 ROM zip if flashed.
I'm usually very conservative with bloat removal. Try freezing and check for effects before uninstalling; you know what to check now.
I'm more concerned about the apps that auto run in background without user launching so watch for that. Useless apps take resources away from rooted users; most likely you want to make resources available for custom apps. So make room for them. Debloat makes sense as long as you're not removing function.
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