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UPDATE - deleted old post...
So I just finished Rooting my phone and putting a new rom.
I used the following root guide:
[TUTORIAL] EVO Full Root|OTA Root|Nand Backup/Restore|Flashing|for n00b's + videos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721055
Now I realized all my phone contacts are gone....
I wished he had put a disclaimer about that.
and what sucks is, I dont have a backup to those contact # either so im screwed.
Anyways my question is: Once I have all my contacts and I wish to change ROM.
Will I lose all my datas?
If I download a game app - IE - Tower Defense - will it keep game saved, unlocked maps, etc etc?
if it doesn't, how do I transfer contacts, game saved to the next Rom when I wipe (I assume wipe = format which it deletes everything).
I already forsee im gonna test all the roms out there but I HATE to re-put all my contacts over and over again...
im already mad I lost half of my contacts I wont be able to retreive.
with that said - I guess I have few more question than.
WHAT IS Nand Backup? what does it do?
What is Titanium Backup? what does it do?
Do I need 1 or both?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
In the op there is a link to google docs spread sheet that compares the most popular roms comparing there performance, battery life, extra features, what features it has working, ect.

nief1313 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
In the op there is a link to google docs spread sheet that compares the most popular roms comparing there performance, battery life, extra features, what features it has working, ect.
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Thanks for the link but it doesnt answer some of my other questions.
what kind of pre-loaded apps comes with each one?

you will have to individually check out their threads to find out what they have included/excluded, but for most of the ROMs, they generally include all the stock stuff(sometimes removed sprint apps or an easy way of removing them) and a few include an app for rom specific updates/changing profiles. besides that most of them dont preinstall any extra apps.

nief1313 said:
you will have to individually check out their threads to find out what they have included/excluded, but for most of the ROMs, they generally include all the stock stuff(sometimes removed sprint apps or an easy way of removing them) and a few include an app for rom specific updates/changing profiles. besides that most of them dont preinstall any extra apps.
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This man speaks the truff.
Most roms are pretty identical, just check them out and view which one you would like the most.
I suggest making a nandroid backup of what you have now and then installing different roms and testing them out. Find the one thats fits you and stick with it.

Evio is my current rom, it seems to be the only one where the cache is on the /cache partition instead of the data partition, and everything is working, he adds a few apps but you can wipe it to get the full 427MB for apps. also u can uninstall any sprint apps you dont want with titanium backup.
BTW good luck on the 60 fps, expect 50-55fps.

Use the evo kitchen. Search for it. Lets you make one to your liking.
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UPDATE - check first post for my new issues. Thanks to the previous posts answering my other concerns.

for starters save all contacts to gmail that will help you to avoid having to re-enter your contacts everytime, when you link your gmail to your phone it will pull your contact. since u already lost em id recommend going to gmail now and adding them manually, had my mom do this in the begining when she 1st got her moment, and i found out after the fact on my hero.
Nandroid is a full back up of your phones current state (rom wise). so when you have one set up the way you like it make a nandroid so when you decide to jump to another rom or you flash a soemthing you dont like you can revert back to your previous state. its like system restore for windows but 20x better.
Titanium backup lets you back up apps uninstall apps etc etc, it does alot, too much for me to explain, i say check out their site. also titanium back up is the one you would need if u wanted to back up apps and restore them on another rom.
Titanium back up was how i was able to keep my free copy of lets golf xD

Using Launcher Pro, looking to uninstall unneeded Sense

Since I use Launcher Pro instead of the default sense I was wondering if someone could let me know which things would be safe to uninstall?
So far..
Rosie.apk

POQbum said:
Since I use Launcher Pro instead of the default sense I was wondering if someone could let me know which things would be safe to uninstall?
So far..
Rosie.apk
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I've done this same thing, removed all HTC* and Sense* apps and services from my phone. I staged it using Titanium to freeze them all first, then after a week of no crashes, no FC's , and having the kernel I wanted, I removed them all.
The problem I'm having is how to convey this info to you. Titanium backup will produce a list but it seems a bug will only list the user apps, not the system ones in the resultant email.
I think I could just do a complete listing from adb of the content of /system/app, and you can diff it with your own to produce things that do no harm when removed.
If you're interested, let me know. There is , I think, no "sense" left when done with this. Compared to say the Rom called Senseless R., it has much less apps & services (that are all social networking garbage) installed and it runs very well. Normally, at any given time, it is running 8-18 services & apps, compared to ~50-60 before I did this.
I guess I'd rather make my own mistakes then install someone else's. (which might make you think twice about doing anything I recommend )
Of course, as always, do a full nandroid backup before starting on this type of thing. Remove one wrong thing and you're likely not going to be able to reboot, but I think if you freeze them first with TB, then you might be able to boot using 'safe mode' (see XDA) and still unfreeze the culprit keeping it from rebooting (use logcat to figure it out if you can).
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Thanks for the tips.
I'm using 'root uninstaller' that shows all apps and 'com.android' stuff.
I did a full backup and am experimenting uninstalling different things.
One of the .htc uninstalls resulted in crashing mms, 3g and just about anything major like the dialer.
Slowly and surely I'm doing a full backup everytime I get to a point where I uninstalled a few things and everything still works great.
I haven't been keeping track of exactly what I've been uninstalling so I guess I can't help out anyone in the future :/

[Q] Remove System Apps??

hey guys i rooted my phone a few weeks back and now an running synergy sense 3.0.
how do i go about deleting the system apps or stock apps that phone will not simply let u uninstall is there an app to do that or do i have to go through the phone hardware itself??

View attachment SdxAppRemoval-1.5.apk
i use this
be careful you can delete important stuff, use caution. back up first!!

I use Titanium Backup to remove system apps.
It has the capability to "freeze" them without actually removing them. This is helpful when you don't really want to get rid of it permanently but just want to stop it from running on its own.
It also allows you to be sure that no problems will be caused by removing the app. If something else depends on it and you start getting force closes you can thaw the app to recover it.
Once you are sure that you want to be rid of it forever you can remove it completely.

off the top your head do u know what all can be removed without messing up pone?

+1 for using Titanium Backup to remove system apps.

kam0603 said:
off the top your head do u know what all can be removed without messing up pone?
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At one time I saw someone here trying to build a comprehensive list. Definitely can remove the 'bloat' like Amazon MP3, NASCAR, NFL, Kindle, Nova, Sprint Navigation, and the other Sprint apps.
Things that get you into trouble are things that are integrated into Android (like Google Talk) or HTC Sense.
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This is the list I was thinking of:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...EZSd1pFTy1OTlEzWTZkZ3BpS2JXdlE&hl=en_US#gid=0
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misfits MisfitROmV1.2 with ChopSuey kernel works really REALLY well for me and it dosent have almost all the stuff and you can download the stuff you want, (i just did youtube and maps) only downside is he aint around no more. still rom works great

Is it ok to delete the bloatware now?

Now that we have 2.3.4 that lets us delete the bloatware, is it ok to delete it and still be able to update?

My bloat is all listed as system apps, so the only way I can remove is via titanium backup. I have backed everything up, uninstalled it. When its time to update I will restore, update and then remove again.

gbesta said:
My bloat is all listed as system apps, so the only way I can remove is via titanium backup. I have backed everything up, uninstalled it. When its time to update I will restore, update and then remove again.
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Did you do this with Titanium Free or have you paid for it?
Can you explain exactly the process? Do you backup, then freeze? Freeze then backup? It confuses me...
I want to go through and remove the bloat, but I want to do it "right".

danieljamie said:
Did you do this with Titanium Free or have you paid for it?
Can you explain exactly the process? Do you backup, then freeze? Freeze then backup? It confuses me...
I want to go through and remove the bloat, but I want to do it "right".
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If you freeze, you don't have to backup. Freezing only makes the app not run, it doesn't uninstall...

Just be carefull what you delete! You will get alot of force closes there's a thread on this.. If you got ur phone running right you could even move system apps without any problems.. Just be sure to BACKUP ur ****
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You can only Freeze apps with the paid version of Ti Backup, but I would personally recommend it. Deleting stuff can be bad news if you don't know what you're deleting. Plus, you forfeit your ability to do firmware updates (without flashing). It won't remove the bloatware from internal storage, but it will at least stop it from starting up and using memory. And if you freeze something important, you can always unfreeze it.

danieljamie said:
Did you do this with Titanium Free or have you paid for it?
Can you explain exactly the process? Do you backup, then freeze? Freeze then backup? It confuses me...
I want to go through and remove the bloat, but I want to do it "right".
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I paid for the full version. Initially I froze things a couple at a time and kept rebooting to make sure all was good. Then once I froze everything I wanted to I waited a week, then uninstalled all frozen apps.
These are the ones I have uninstalled with no adverse effects so far (R800i locked to 3 UK)
Brick Breaker
Chinese Keyboard
Extension Search
Facebook
Facebook Calendar Sync
Facebook extension
Facebook setup
foursquare
foursquare timescape
friends games & ...ications
Friends music and videos
Fun and Downloads
Music Unlimited
Officesuite
Play on device
playstation pocket
Retail demo
SEMC Facebook proxy
Sony Ericsson Facebook
Spotify
Spotify Timescape
Store
Timescape Feeds
Timescape
Timescape Widget
Touchnote
Tower Bloxx
Twitter Extension
UEFA.com
Video Unlimited
WhattsApp
Wikipedia Extension
Win Cash
Wisepilot
Xperia Hot Shots
I also use link2SD for everythings except
FPSe
Market
Titanium Backup
Currently got 213MB free on internal storage. Free memory is 207MB. Phone is loads snappier than when I got it, and I no longer get Spotify force closes randomly.
Obviously what works for me, may not work for you. You might even be using facebook and spotify. Just backup everything and sync it to dropbox before you start playing.

Thankyou, I appreciate the advice..
How do I best move system things to SD card?

There is a guide to link2sd on here somwhere. Previously I was using the paid version of Apps2SD. Although I think you can move apps to the SD using titanium backup.

Wow. Bought Titanium Backup Pro. Synced with Dropbox (not even on WIFI but who cares). Ordered them by size. Converted some of the games to user apps. Moved to SD card. 115MB space on internal! WOW!

gbesta said:
I paid for the full version. Initially I froze things a couple at a time and kept rebooting to make sure all was good. Then once I froze everything I wanted to I waited a week, then uninstalled all frozen apps.
These are the ones I have uninstalled with no adverse effects so far (R800i locked to 3 UK)
Brick Breaker
Chinese Keyboard
Extension Search
Facebook
Facebook Calendar Sync
Facebook extension
Facebook setup
foursquare
foursquare timescape
friends games & ...ications
Friends music and videos
Fun and Downloads
Music Unlimited
Officesuite
Play on device
playstation pocket
Retail demo
SEMC Facebook proxy
Sony Ericsson Facebook
Spotify
Spotify Timescape
Store
Timescape Feeds
Timescape
Timescape Widget
Touchnote
Tower Bloxx
Twitter Extension
UEFA.com
Video Unlimited
WhattsApp
Wikipedia Extension
Win Cash
Wisepilot
Xperia Hot Shots
I also use link2SD for everythings except
FPSe
Market
Titanium Backup
Currently got 213MB free on internal storage. Free memory is 207MB. Phone is loads snappier than when I got it, and I no longer get Spotify force closes randomly.
Obviously what works for me, may not work for you. You might even be using facebook and spotify. Just backup everything and sync it to dropbox before you start playing.
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exactly what im looking now, is this on 2.3.4?

brochador said:
exactly what im looking now, is this on 2.3.4?
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Not sure what you mean, but yes I am running 2.3.4.

gbesta said:
Not sure what you mean, but yes I am running 2.3.4.
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yeah OS version, 2.3.4.. I lost the 'more games' on our launcher, and i think that's the fun & downloads, good thing i created a back up..

You guys realise I meant apps that are actualy uninstallable, right? Not stuff you can get rid of with TB?

The Alpha Gamer said:
You guys realise I meant apps that are actualy uninstallable, right? Not stuff you can get rid of with TB?
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As I said in my first post. All of my bloat is system apps and can only be removed with titanium backup.

gbesta said:
As I said in my first post. All of my bloat is system apps and can only be removed with titanium backup.
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Then why do mine have an "uninstall" option?

The Alpha Gamer said:
Then why do mine have an "uninstall" option?
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Good question, and one that interests me. I have an R800i sim locked to 3 UK. The stuff I listed along with the games is considered by me to be bloat. Yet all of them are system apps. Leaving me unable to remove them, or move to the SD card.
I have since converted and /or removed them using titanium backup.
Do you have uninstall options for the items I listed. What phone do you have and is it provider locked, or sim free?

gbesta said:
Good question, and one that interests me. I have an R800i sim locked to 3 UK. The stuff I listed along with the games is considered by me to be bloat. Yet all of them are system apps. Leaving me unable to remove them, or move to the SD card.
I have since converted and /or removed them using titanium backup.
Do you have uninstall options for the items I listed. What phone do you have and is it provider locked, or sim free?
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Out of the ones you listed, just UEFA, What'sapp, Wisepilot, Hotshots and 2 Music Unlimiteds. I don't even have some of the bloat you have though.
It's an R800i, sim free

The Alpha Gamer said:
Out of the ones you listed, just UEFA, What'sapp, Wisepilot, Hotshots and 2 Music Unlimiteds. I don't even have some of the bloat you have though.
It's an R800i, sim free
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Sim free is seeming the better option, as you can unlock the bootloader, and you get less bloat. Wish I knew that before signing up for contract. Just after I got it, I noticed sim free was only £150 - £200.

gbesta said:
Sim free is seeming the better option, as you can unlock the bootloader, and you get less bloat. Wish I knew that before signing up for contract. Just after I got it, I noticed sim free was only £150 - £200.
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That must have stung D=
mine was £180 from Argos.

so I've rooted my OGP. Now what?

Rooted it today. First android phone I've ever owned (though been jailbreaking since 2009).
I installed Ttanium Backup, and i think i backed up my apps and data, but not exactly sure where to, as i don't have an SD card in it yet. If I backed up to the phone, I'm guessing that's mostly useless. But I'm new to this stuff so i don't really know.
So, now that i have root access, what apps should i be installing?
What stuff should i be uninstalling or freezing?
What cool things can i now do that i couldn't do yesterday?
Anything specific to the OGP that i should or should not do?

andygold said:
Rooted it today. First android phone I've ever owned (though been jailbreaking since 2009).
I installed Ttanium Backup, and i think i backed up my apps and data, but not exactly sure where to as i don't have an SD card in it yet. If I backed up to the phone, I'm guessing that's mostly useless. But I'm new to this stuff so i don't really know.
So, now that i have root access, what apps should i be installing?
What stuff should i be uninstalling our freezing?
What cool things can i now do that i couldn't do yesterday?
Anything specific to the OGP that i should or should not do?
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You can block ads, search adaway here on xda since Google recently rid the store of all ad blocking apps. You can use programs like sqlite editor to enable hotspot even if you're not subscribed to a plan that supports it. You can use xposed framework also here on xda (under our phones themes and apps) to apply themes to the phone. You can disable built in apps using titanium backup. Also, you should install Cwm under android development for our phone and make a nandroid backup in case you ever screw up your phone.
Best of all, you can install greenify root to make your battery last a lot longer. It hibernates apps for you that would normally run in the background.
When we have our bootloader unlocked is when the real fun will start though.
Sent from my LG-E980 using Tapatalk 2

lessthanzach said:
You can block ads, search adaway here on xda since Google recently rid the store of all ad blocking apps. You can use programs like sqlite editor to enable hotspot even if you're not subscribed to a plan that supports it. You can use xposed framework also here on xda (under our phones themes and apps) to apply themes to the phone. You can disable built in apps using titanium backup. Also, you should install Cwm under android development for our phone and make a nandroid backup in case you ever screw up your phone.
Best of all, you can install greenify root to make your battery last a lot longer. It hibernates apps for you that would normally run in the background.
When we have our bootloader unlocked is when the real fun will start though.
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Thank you!
Couple more questions...I was able to do a search for adaway, and found it, but you mention (under our phones themes and apps), and could not find that. Is there a section that just has XDA Apps in it? All I was able to find was forums, and not repositories (don't know if that's the right word).
Basic newbie question...if an app is listed as being for Jellybean 4.1, can we use it even it was made for a Galaxy S3 for example? If it's Jellybean 4.1 is it good to go?
As to adaway...if you disable ads, will some programs refuse to run?
Is the hotspot app, safe for my phone bill?
If you "disable" apps using titanium backup, does it remove them from the phone, or just hide them? What is freezing an app? And if later you want to have them back (let's say for a trip to the cell store) are they readily returned to view?
I was under the impression (probably wrongly) that CWM at this point could brick our phone. Am I mistaken? And where does the nandroid backup get stored? Hopefully not on the phone...
I ask a lot of the above questions as being a new android user (2-weeks now), I'm clicking or checking out everything I see on the phone (and in the store(s) to learn about what it can do. I'm also installing a ton of apps that are new to me, and I've also gone to some non-Google Play stores to DL some stuff. I know that sooner or later I'm going to want to restore the phone to factory stock to get rid of conflicts, viruses (virii?), and anything that does not play well with other stuff. So, during this learning quest, I assume I'm going to frag the phone in some way, and will have the need to return it to stock (hopefully without needing to go back to the store)!!! I just want to have a bit of assurance that with everything I do, I can get back to stock.
Lastly, is there anything somewhat similar to iTunes that will make a restore a bit less time consuming. Is Titanium Backup what I"m searchnig for?

Wasn't aware of greenify root.. will give that one a go right now!
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lessthanzach said:
You can block ads, search adaway here on xda since Google recently rid the store of all ad blocking apps. You can use programs like sqlite editor to enable hotspot even if you're not subscribed to a plan that supports it. You can use xposed framework also here on xda (under our phones themes and apps) to apply themes to the phone. You can disable built in apps using titanium backup. Also, you should install Cwm under android development for our phone and make a nandroid backup in case you ever screw up your phone.
Best of all, you can install greenify root to make your battery last a lot longer. It hibernates apps for you that would normally run in the background.
When we have our bootloader unlocked is when the real fun will start though.
Sent from my LG-E980 using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks for mention greenify root, I install it. It's a hit!!

Now that I'm rooted (and installed some associated apps) I've noticed some laggy operation. When I'm on pretty much any of the home screens, and click on the app drawer icon, I'm brought to the page where I see "Apps", "Downloads", and "Widgets" at the top, but occasionally I have a blank screen below that. It stays blank for anywhere from one to three seconds and then the apps and folders appear. Sometimes they will show up instantly, but quite often there is a few second lag. The only things I've installed since rooting are Root Checker, Titanium Backup and Greenify. I'm not sure whether it is the root or the new apps, so I guess I can uninstall the three apps and see.
I also seem to be getting the circling "please wait" message more often than in the past.
Anybody else experiencing this? And does this sound like a root issue or an issue from one of the three apps?