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Now that we have perm root, titanium backup

guys, i cant stress this enough and i'm sure the old android heads here will agree with me. their are many many different android phones out there that have root. And although they're all different they all have a few apps in common. setcpu, rom manager, terminal, titanium back up.
I just want to touch base on Titanium backup.
It allows you to totally remove any app, including bloat ware. You can also suspend apps.
the freeze feature was handy because i enjoy sense but didn't like its apps and widgets hogging ram for no reason; considering i never used those sense apps. it netted in a nice battery and performance gain, at least.
one awesome thing about TB is the ability to back up your apps and reinstall all of them. the whole experience is as streamlined as batch market downloading and waaaaaay better than astro file managers one at a time annoying install.
Also, after a full wipe you will definitely want to run market dr so u can easily keep tabs on your updates.
in short, you wouldn't bang her/him without a condom right? well don't flash with out titanium backup!
I totally recommend the paid version!!!!!

So now we can uninstall completely without consequences web2go, Pico TTS, Quickoffice, Listen , Home screen tips, Google Skymaps, Google Translate, Goggles, Finance, wifi calling, etc ??
I was about to but i got a message that said i might have to reinstall the ROM if something craps out...

mauaus said:
So now we can uninstall completely without consequences web2go, Pico TTS, Quickoffice, Listen , Home screen tips, Google Skymaps, Google Translate, Goggles, Finance, wifi calling, etc ??
I was about to but i got a message that said i might have to reinstall the ROM if something craps out...
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you should be able too delete what u want. I wouldn't remove wifi calling though lol
I would wait for a clockwork recovery version to be available. This way u can make a backup before u delete all that

sheek360 said:
you should be able too delete what u want. I wouldn't remove wifi calling though lol
I would wait for a clockwork recovery version to be available. This way u can make a backup before u delete all that
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Im not with tmo it says invalid sim so its of no use to me. Is there a workaround?

mauaus said:
Im not with tmo it says invalid sim so its of no use to me. Is there a workaround?
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oh i see,
in regards to a backup? i think itll be best to be safe than sorry and wait till clockwork recovery is released.

is there a big difference between the free and paid version? what im asking is would i still be able to do back up and delete bloatware with the free version

The batch is MUCH better with the paid version, definitely well worth it

mikeybot said:
The batch is MUCH better with the paid version, definitely well worth it
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I agree!!!!!!!!!

Just one thing: please don't forget that system apps (ie: apps that are part of your ROM) themselves can't be restored by TitaniumBackup for now. Only their data is backed up. So if somebody is not 100% sure about removing a system app, it's wise to try freezing it first -because that's easy to undo.

So how do we do the remove of unwanted apps
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[Q] Once rooted

Once rooted how do i delete sprint, amazon apps etc?
This is the main reason i wanted it rooted and it is now.

Get Titanium Backup, and you can uninstall them with that.

HipKat said:
Get Titanium Backup, and you can uninstall them with that.
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Or if you don't care to have them back, just go through settings/application/manage and find the ones you want to delete. I and Some other people don't care to have those apps so why back them up? Sometimes its just a waste of time!

backup etc
Most i just want gone! Like nascrap, sprint tv etc.
The Titanium Backup is probably a good idea in case you delete one program and it has an effect on one you want to keep. Heard of that happening.
**Problem is u go into manage apps and Uninstall is not an highlighted option on the ones they want to shove down your throat.

Some you want to keep are freindstream, g-talk and gmail...
But yeah, the NASCAR, NFL, Amazon, Peep, et al.... gone

You can actually get rid of Friendstream too if you don't use, and also get rid of any of the social networking apps. I get rid of friendstream, , facebook, news, callender, footprints, rss reader, music, browser, app sharing, sprint hotspot, and several others, because I don't use them, or their are better replacements on the market.

Titanium Backup is probably the best, but you could also use Root Uninstaller. This gives you a lot of options, such as freezing an app and restoring apps.

I use Root Explorer, I have never used Titanium Backup but you should be able to use it.
Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8042316
The sixth post has a lot of items that are safe to delete.

Will it have Backup Assistant?

I have never owned a Nexus phone so please excuse me if this is a dumb question. I currently have a rooted Thunderbolt running CM7.1. My understanding is that Nexus phones don't have any of the bloat apps preinstalled. I don't need/want Verizon's Backup Assistant as I use Google for my contacts. Does anyone know if this phone will have Backup Assistant pre installed? If so, will we be able to remove it without rooting the phone? I would like to get this phone and not have to root it.

That's a good question. They didn't install backup assistant on the iPhone 4 or 4S and contacts are transfered via an app you have to download from the app store so they may do something simular. However they did manage to get their mobile hotspot app pre-installed on the iPhones so we'll have to wait and see.
But with 4.0 even if they put it on the phone it doesn't really matter:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...G0bOQdSFFGZJ_MlZw&sig2=8-YNLP77mWCVakYh7N4t8Q

in android we use an app called TI (Titanium Backup)
you can then backup to SD card, to internal storage, and to the cloud on DropBox

AllGamer said:
in android we use an app called TI (Titanium Backup)
you can then backup to SD card, to internal storage, and to the cloud on DropBox
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What he was referring to was a Verizon app that is solely used to transfer contacts from one CDMA phone to another since they cannot be saved to a SIM like GSM phones. It's pre-installed on nearly every VZW phone, however to anyone in the know, it's kind of useless if you're going from Android to Android since all Google contacts sync to whatever phone shortly after you sign in to your account during the setup phase.

Your gmail backs up your contacts, backup assistant is not needed.

Yes that's what I meant. I don't want the Backup Assisant app on the phone at all. Don't need it as I use Google (gmail) to back up my contacts. With the poor battery life I experienced on my HTC Incredible and Thunderbolt, I figure any unnecessary apps I can get rid of the better. Especially any that run/sync in the background.

black05x5 said:
Yes that's what I meant. I don't want the Backup Assisant app on the phone at all. Don't need it as I use Google (gmail) to back up my contacts. With the poor battery life I experienced on my HTC Incredible and Thunderbolt, I figure any unnecessary apps I can get rid of the better. Especially any that run/sync in the background.
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Did you not click on the link from my first reply which explains that ICS allows users to disable all bloatware?

qreffie said:
Did you not click on the link from my first reply which explains that ICS allows users to disable all bloatware?
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and that same reason is why allot of carriers wont put ICS on thair phones!

Qreffie I did read the link you posted. Thanks so much, it was very helpful. I did not know ICS allowed us to remove apps until reading your link. I was agreeing with b15love when I reiterated that I simply don't need backup assistant. Thanks again for your replies. I'm excited for my first Nexus phone.

Q: Rooted R800x Ti Backup problems

So I've finally gotten to that point, I can't take this verizon crap anymore. I have a nandroid backup and Ti ready to go. SO I started with installing Verizon crap, I removed VZ navigator, Backup Assistant, and Vcast Apps. After doing this now my Playstation games (both Crash, and ones I made myself) do not show in the launcher anymore, but I tried them and they do run. I guess thats cause of Vcast or???
That problem is livable, the worse problem is I am trying to convert the stock installed games (Asphalt 6 for example) to user apps to move to SD, when I do that it just says "Processing" and seems to sit there forever, I rebooted and restored my backup and tried again, and am still having the same problem. Does it just not work?

anyone? Bueller?

There's an app called preinstalled service or something, that app is needed to play psx games

Rogue Leader said:
anyone? Bueller?
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Ha that's a classic!
But your correct, without vcast my apps didn't show up in game launcher and if you removed pre installed service .apk then they wont show even with vcast .
There's a terminal line you can add to make all apps installable to sd but it will also make all new downloaded apps Install to sd and I felt like downloads were slower, not that 3g is fast in the first place though.. I'll look up the line to punch in terminal and edit my post here
Edit: I think its "pm setinstallocation 2"
That's what I could remember I'll look it up officially though
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so I've rooted my OGP. Now what?

Rooted it today. First android phone I've ever owned (though been jailbreaking since 2009).
I installed Ttanium Backup, and i think i backed up my apps and data, but not exactly sure where to, as i don't have an SD card in it yet. If I backed up to the phone, I'm guessing that's mostly useless. But I'm new to this stuff so i don't really know.
So, now that i have root access, what apps should i be installing?
What stuff should i be uninstalling or freezing?
What cool things can i now do that i couldn't do yesterday?
Anything specific to the OGP that i should or should not do?

andygold said:
Rooted it today. First android phone I've ever owned (though been jailbreaking since 2009).
I installed Ttanium Backup, and i think i backed up my apps and data, but not exactly sure where to as i don't have an SD card in it yet. If I backed up to the phone, I'm guessing that's mostly useless. But I'm new to this stuff so i don't really know.
So, now that i have root access, what apps should i be installing?
What stuff should i be uninstalling our freezing?
What cool things can i now do that i couldn't do yesterday?
Anything specific to the OGP that i should or should not do?
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You can block ads, search adaway here on xda since Google recently rid the store of all ad blocking apps. You can use programs like sqlite editor to enable hotspot even if you're not subscribed to a plan that supports it. You can use xposed framework also here on xda (under our phones themes and apps) to apply themes to the phone. You can disable built in apps using titanium backup. Also, you should install Cwm under android development for our phone and make a nandroid backup in case you ever screw up your phone.
Best of all, you can install greenify root to make your battery last a lot longer. It hibernates apps for you that would normally run in the background.
When we have our bootloader unlocked is when the real fun will start though.
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lessthanzach said:
You can block ads, search adaway here on xda since Google recently rid the store of all ad blocking apps. You can use programs like sqlite editor to enable hotspot even if you're not subscribed to a plan that supports it. You can use xposed framework also here on xda (under our phones themes and apps) to apply themes to the phone. You can disable built in apps using titanium backup. Also, you should install Cwm under android development for our phone and make a nandroid backup in case you ever screw up your phone.
Best of all, you can install greenify root to make your battery last a lot longer. It hibernates apps for you that would normally run in the background.
When we have our bootloader unlocked is when the real fun will start though.
Sent from my LG-E980 using Tapatalk 2
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Thank you!
Couple more questions...I was able to do a search for adaway, and found it, but you mention (under our phones themes and apps), and could not find that. Is there a section that just has XDA Apps in it? All I was able to find was forums, and not repositories (don't know if that's the right word).
Basic newbie question...if an app is listed as being for Jellybean 4.1, can we use it even it was made for a Galaxy S3 for example? If it's Jellybean 4.1 is it good to go?
As to adaway...if you disable ads, will some programs refuse to run?
Is the hotspot app, safe for my phone bill?
If you "disable" apps using titanium backup, does it remove them from the phone, or just hide them? What is freezing an app? And if later you want to have them back (let's say for a trip to the cell store) are they readily returned to view?
I was under the impression (probably wrongly) that CWM at this point could brick our phone. Am I mistaken? And where does the nandroid backup get stored? Hopefully not on the phone...
I ask a lot of the above questions as being a new android user (2-weeks now), I'm clicking or checking out everything I see on the phone (and in the store(s) to learn about what it can do. I'm also installing a ton of apps that are new to me, and I've also gone to some non-Google Play stores to DL some stuff. I know that sooner or later I'm going to want to restore the phone to factory stock to get rid of conflicts, viruses (virii?), and anything that does not play well with other stuff. So, during this learning quest, I assume I'm going to frag the phone in some way, and will have the need to return it to stock (hopefully without needing to go back to the store)!!! I just want to have a bit of assurance that with everything I do, I can get back to stock.
Lastly, is there anything somewhat similar to iTunes that will make a restore a bit less time consuming. Is Titanium Backup what I"m searchnig for?

Wasn't aware of greenify root.. will give that one a go right now!
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lessthanzach said:
You can block ads, search adaway here on xda since Google recently rid the store of all ad blocking apps. You can use programs like sqlite editor to enable hotspot even if you're not subscribed to a plan that supports it. You can use xposed framework also here on xda (under our phones themes and apps) to apply themes to the phone. You can disable built in apps using titanium backup. Also, you should install Cwm under android development for our phone and make a nandroid backup in case you ever screw up your phone.
Best of all, you can install greenify root to make your battery last a lot longer. It hibernates apps for you that would normally run in the background.
When we have our bootloader unlocked is when the real fun will start though.
Sent from my LG-E980 using Tapatalk 2
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Thanks for mention greenify root, I install it. It's a hit!!

Now that I'm rooted (and installed some associated apps) I've noticed some laggy operation. When I'm on pretty much any of the home screens, and click on the app drawer icon, I'm brought to the page where I see "Apps", "Downloads", and "Widgets" at the top, but occasionally I have a blank screen below that. It stays blank for anywhere from one to three seconds and then the apps and folders appear. Sometimes they will show up instantly, but quite often there is a few second lag. The only things I've installed since rooting are Root Checker, Titanium Backup and Greenify. I'm not sure whether it is the root or the new apps, so I guess I can uninstall the three apps and see.
I also seem to be getting the circling "please wait" message more often than in the past.
Anybody else experiencing this? And does this sound like a root issue or an issue from one of the three apps?