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I am thinking of using a custom ROM and was wondering which Rom is best?
I have searched the forum but can't find much comparison of the find roms available.
I suppose what I am really interested is what they don't do.
Thx
Mute
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As everyone says there is no 'best' rom different ones suit different people but I think a comparison chart between them would be great. I can design and host a chart on my web server if need be but I can't fill out what each one has but if people are willing to help out then we could create a good comparison chart?
A chart would be great sadly I don't know enough about the roms to help much...
Some way of rating stability would be cool, or some sort of issue tracker.
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thats a great idea and of course its more for those old dogs wo have donate for beer money to do hint hint apparently the new official froyo might well be the way to go as apparently it will allow you to save apps to sd which is all i wanted but any froyo rom would be the way to go i guess i am on 2.1 custom rom from the locker.com just cause there tutorial was simple enough for me to follow and didnt make me read as i have issues with my brain
Your question is much too vague. You need to tell us what you expect from a ROM. There's no "best" ROM (we would all use it), people have different preferences/tastes/needs.
P.S. Check my signature for the best ROM
UPDATE!! Ric is back on board and actively working on Azrael 4.0!!! THIS IS INDEED GREAT NEWS! I am going to leave this thread open just to continue showing my support for his work and would appreciate it greatly if every Azrael user continues to show support here in case he ever needs to be reminded again. Thanks to all that contributed in persuading him to continue developing this awesome Rom!
So Ricsim78 has recently posted in his thread for the Azrael Rom that due to too many complaints to his Rom that he may or may not end up hanging up the towel for good and ending the development of his Roms. Personally this saddens me. So i ask here.....Do you use any of the Azrael ROMS?? Did you use one and switched due to issues?? Should he continue to build his ROMS??? Read his original post .......
""" Originally Posted by ricsim78
Hey everyone,
I am going to make one last version of Azrael X and then I think I may step down as a developer. Maybe for a while, maybe forever.
I did this for fun and along the way I have enjoyed how my ROMS have progressed. But now that people have rated down my work and shown me that no matter what I do, it will never be "good enough" and I should use "other ROMS as my base", that tells me that I should keep my own custom ROMS to myself.
I am going to make a few different versions of Azrael X Final, keep this thread updated as progress is made, but I think I have been shown the way by the community here.
I appreciate all the people who do support me. I am forever grateful but I am pretty disgusted by the acts of some people on here. There are lots of ROM options here, so I am sure there is a good new one to pick up.
Nothing lasts forever; maybe my decision will reverse, maybe not. But as it stands, I begin work on one final release of Azrael X. It will be called just that and may well be my last public release of my ROMS."""""
Some may have issues with his Rom but i have not experienced any of these issue nor have any of the other 15+ HTC EVO's that I have flashed his Rom to. Plenty have requested that he use a different base for his Rom. I disagree with this as well. His Rom is plenty fast and plenty stable and if you have problems with how he makes his stuff.....try something else or learn how to develop your self. Its that simple. There are PLENTY of other options to chose from. If your like me and your incapable of developing your own stuff....take what you cant get and thank these fantastic developers that do everything they can to make our good phones the best phones they can be.
IF YOU VOTE ANYTHING OTHER THAN YES, PLEASE DO US ALL A FAVOR AND POST YOUR REASONS HERE. PLEASE LIST ANY BUGS YOU EXPERIENCED. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU THAT PARTICIPATE.
I will only use Azrael roms....Ric's support for his roms is secound to none!!!!
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Agree this rom fits me to a t
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I will only use Azrael roms....Ric's support for his roms is secound to none!!!!
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yea you said it. 10 fold.
Yess!!! Thats what im talkin about!!! Everyone show your support for this amazing rom here and maybe, just maybe we can convince him all his hard work has not been in vain!!!! (cross your fingers azrael lovers!!) thanks guys!!
Ok so I flashed my Evo about a month ago and I tried a few different ROMs and I have been on Az's for the whole time. I love it and won't flash anyone else's ROMs now. Please don't go Az.
Ric should do what makes him happy. I did however vote for how much I like his work though and the selfish part of me wants him to keep making them. If he were to ask me, which he hasn't of course, I would say to always listen with an open mind, but not to ever worry or sweat about what the negative folks have to say and concentrate instead on enjoying the process of his work and the majority of us who enjoy it. Here's to you Ric, thanks for everything that you've done so far, I will appreciate it and you no matter what.
I personally don't use his ROMS but I do think losing a Dev from the community because of a few bad apples is poor form. It's too bad he feels this way and I think this thread is an awesome show of support!
I love his roms. I personally love the way sense looks and he keeps that look. Its snappy reliable and awesome on battery life. I hate animations and this rom has the best ones I've ever seen. I use the phone heavily and at 11pm it still has 40% on the stock battery. Everyone says there rom has great battery life and they don't but AZs Rom does. I would like him to continue his dev work but if he must go then that's that. And we should remember his awesome work.
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I have been a supporter since the day I rooted my phone. I have had no issues at all and definitely hope he changes his mind. Excellent work and thanks for your passion.
It is my ROM of choice and now use it exclusively.
I love the X rom...
I think the trouble most people have is from the different kernels. I run his rom with the stock #15 kernel. It's the only one that flies on my Evo. Any other kernel sucks!
I use it, and its the only rom ive had NO problems with. Id be very disappointed to see the development of this rom stop.
Az I used 3 other roms before flashing yours, and yours is the one that I liked best. I tried a few of the other roms from the devs that I liked on my hero but I didn't like theirs as much as I love yours. So if you do decide to go please add me to your mailing list. I would be honored.
P.S. I check every day to see if you have posted an updated rom.
Take care my friend
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for me is the best so far, even convinced my co-workers to give it a try, and they love it too
I have never used Azrael's ROM, but that's just because I've been stuck on a different ROM for a while now, and haven't strayed from it yet. It saddens me to hear of this, possibly losing a dev from the community. I love having so many options for different ROMs, and I find them all to be great, and have different tweaks and features that fit different scenarios. I have never heard anything bad about Azrael's ROM, just the oppositte actually, people praising it. I am not up to par on the type of comments people were saying about it, that prompted his (for free!!!) decision, but I find that terrible. People should show nothing but respect and support for the devs here, and the hard work that they put in. And as far as I know, it seems that most of the devs here work together, and trade info and what not. I hope that people step up and show him support so that his decision can be reversed.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and that is what the thread voting and rating system is intended for. BUT there is a very small handful of members here that need to learn to show some respect! Life isn't perfect and neither is each and every custom ROM. Those who down rate a ROM thread because they have some technical difficulties are morons!
I have yet to see a ROM thread where the dev does not ask the community to please report any issues you find. So how can anybody be so dumb and down rate just for spite?
Rick, I can totally understand how you must feel to put a ton of pride and effort into this nice custom ROM to have it all crushed by a few idiots who can't see past their own selfish moronic ego's. It's a shame these members can't somehow disappear and take their ungrateful selves far from this community and never come back! They will surely continue this childish behavior on other ROM threads. This community would be much much better off without this small handful of ungrateful [email protected][email protected]$!!! Please forgive my French...
Do what you think is best Rick, I totally understand. My advice is to sleep on it a few days and start over... there's always new things coming down the pipes and mabe one day you'll feel better about your much appreciated work. Don't let a couple of dumb punks distract you. We all know your work is at the very top of the list without a doubt. Those couple of spiteful members casting bad votes means nothing to this community. Believe me we ALL know you are the real deal when it comes to your work and awesome support!
Yes and i have never had a problem with his Roms. Hope he never leaves. Rick you rule!
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I've been a longtime Lurker who does not post anything but I had to give this man some much needed appreciation. Hands down this Rom is the best that I have tried here. Its silky smooth while maintaining speed and awesome battery life. I really hope he decides to keep developing but I cant fault him for choosing not to. By the way I just donated to you ric. Hope this helps out the coffee fund.
The ONLY issue I had with his 3.0 rom was the tethering. Not the hotspot but the Android tethering. To this day Im not to sure what happened with it as it just quit on me one day. I didnt blame the rom itself if people read my posts, but I also know I sure as hell wouldnt vote someone down (whatever that is actually lol).
My little brother was talked into (by me), into using his 3.1 and he loves it,cept the android tethering is not working for him either. So other then the tethering issues (which im now leaning more towards rom issue, as im now running Mik and its working again flawlessly), his works been pretty awesome.
Dear Admins
Why locking every new Sense 3.0 ROM thread? (Spare Honeysense 3D)
I am really worried about the spirit of competition for Sense 3.0 development on DHD... Every new Sense 3.0 ROM being posted get locked within a day or so.
This is unhealthy practice and I would think it has dire consequences regarding pushing Sense 3.0 forward on our device.
There must be some other way to settle arguments other than doing it this way in public.
I have no hard-feelings towards any of the Devs involved in this matter, but it is getting way too much now.
I hope we can keep XDA forums a pleasant and civilized place for all Devs (like it is meant to be). After all, it is an open source OS and no one has rights to claim any part of the software spare HTC and Google Devs imho.
Cheers
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Dear Admins
Why locking every new Sense 3.0 ROM thread? (Spare Honeysense 3D)
I am really worried about the spirit of competition for Sense 3.0 development on DHD... Every new Sense 3.0 ROM being posted get locked within a day or so.
This is unhealthy practice and I would think it has dire consequences regarding pushing Sense 3.0 forward on our device.
There must be some other way to settle arguments other than doing it this way in public.
I have no hard-feelings towards any of the Devs involved in this matter, but it is getting way too much now.
I hope we can keep XDA forums a pleasant and civilized place for all Devs (like it is meant to be). After all, it is an open source OS and no one has rights to claim any part of the software spare HTC and Google Devs imho.
Cheers
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I think it's because of people using virtuous unity as a base without their permission. There aren't many devs that can port and resize a stock Sensation etc. rom to the DHD, so that's why almost every new Sense 3.0 rom is based on a already existing port. If people made their own roms from scratch it would be ok as it would bring some diversity. Now all new sense 3.0 roms are practically the same as there can't be any huge differences if the devs don't know how to use the m10 tools for example.
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I think it's because of people using virtuous unity as a base without their permission. There aren't many devs that can port and resize a stock Sensation etc. rom to the DHD, so that's why almost every new Sense 3.0 rom is based on a already existing port. If people made their own roms from scratch it would be ok as it would bring some diversity. Now all new sense 3.0 roms are practically the same as there can't be any huge differences if the devs don't know how to use the m10 tools for example.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but don't all MIUI and Cyanogenmod custom ports are based on the original Rom with some tweaks? Why Sense 3 needs to be different...
I never saw an MIUI or Cyanogenmod custom ROM being locked for this reason.
If you have a good base that you can just simply tweak for better performance/custom looks, wouldn't that make devs lives easier and get us more choices to Flash? Of course I cannot expect someone to take a base without mentioning the original dev/team who cooked it and giving them proper credit for their work. But still mentioning them in credits should be enough imho. And still people have the choice to flash whatever they want.
Cheers
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Correct me if I am wrong, but don't all MIUI and Cyanogenmod custom ports are based on the original Rom with some tweaks? Why Sense 3 needs to be different...
I never saw an MIUI or Cyanogenmod custom ROM being locked for this reason.
If you have a good base that you can just simply tweak for better performance/custom looks, wouldn't that make devs lives easier and get us more choices to Flash? Of course I cannot expect someone to take a base without mentioning the original dev/team who cooked it and giving them proper credit for their work. But still mentioning them in credits should be enough imho. And still people have the choice to flash whatever they want.
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My main point is the last sentence in my previous post. There isn't much tweaking you can do as a dev if you don't know how to work with the rom in the first place. If someone wants to modify the looks of a rom they could just release a theme. There's just too little being added to these new roms that someone could be able to call it their own imo and then there's the permission part...
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I tried just about every ROM for my inspire and I decided to keep Honey3d.. after trying just about every sense 3.0 ROM, I believe that each one had its own touch. They look very similar but some just had a different style or look. Personally there was a big enough difference between them all to meet everyone's different styles.
If your worried about them all looking the same, take a look at some of the other ROMs out there too. Many of them look close to a bunch of the other ROMs.
Overall I don't really understand the locking on the 3.0 threads. I really hope I get to keep using Honey3D.. I don't really want to change to anything else
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Thanks for sharing that useful piece of information just to get your post count up
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Thanks for sharing that useful piece of information just to get your post count up
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Lol....you see that all the time. I can't tell if its an attempt to boost post count or serious language barrier.
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So yeah! xD
Im just really curious about what ROM i should use and how im going to root my one x. I ordered it today so it´ll probably be at my house on thursday cus of easter.. But i was like why not to start a bit early and check out what ROM i should use and stuff..
So my big question is what ROM would you guys recommend? Also give a few example why you think i should use that ROM I just came back from my HTC Sensation so i know a few things but not that much
It would mean alot to me if somebody could help me out with this!
THANKS!
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So yeah! xD
Im just really curious about what ROM i should use and how im going to root my one x. I ordered it today so it´ll probably be at my house on thursday cus of easter.. But i was like why not to start a bit early and check out what ROM i should use and stuff..
So my big question is what ROM would you guys recommend? Also give a few example why you think i should use that ROM I just came back from my HTC Sensation so i know a few things but not that much
It would mean alot to me if somebody could help me out with this!
THANKS!
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Congrats for your new phone.
There are a lot of rooting guides available. Just look at the stickies.
As for ROMs, there are a lot of ROMs to start with.
You want AOSP or Sense?
ViperX is the best Sense ROM.
SlimBean is the best AOSP ROM.
You may try out both.
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athulele said:
Congrats for your new phone.
There are a lot of rooting guides available. Just look at the stickies.
As for ROMs, there are a lot of ROMs to start with.
You want AOSP or Sense?
ViperX is the best Sense ROM.
SlimBean is the best AOSP ROM.
You may try out both.
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Hey thanks for answering!
I dont really know what i want right now But i will try both I also found the "rooting tool" so i guess i will be using that one
Also i just read in some forum that i should update something before i root it? Do you know anything about it, because i lost the site Thanks again mate!
There is no "best" rom. Viper X is not the best rom, its the most customizable rom.....yes.
The best rom is the rom that fits you and your needs the most.
Athulele, it's inappropriate to take two ROMs you like and call them the best of all. It's false information.
@OP
It is purely based on opinion and you should definitely develop your own taste of software and not simply flash stuff that people tell you to.
@Hofs I'm just sayin', that AOKP is equally (if not even more) customizable to ViperX
Sorry for groaning
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ROM Comparison threads are unfortunately not allowed on XDA. A lot of people have different ideas of what is best and unfortunately sharing their ideas and opinions frequently leads to trolling, flaming and more.
My personal recommendation would be to visit some of the ROM threads in the Development section. Read the OP. Preview the screenshots. Skim through some of the user comments and complaints. Find one you're interested in and give it a shot. If you like it keep it, if you don't move on and try another.
With that being said this thread is now closed.
Hello guys!
I had experiences with several brands. I gave up Samsung due to the Knox Counter and Sony due to the DRM keys. The best experience so far I had with my late Nexus 5! How easy is to customize the HTC 10? I never had HTC's before. Regarding ease of customization, bootloader unlock and warranty how does it go? I am about to return an Axon 7 and maybe exchange it with a 10.
Thanks in advance!
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Hello guys!
I had experiences with several brands. I gave up Samsung due to the Knox Counter and Sony due to the DRM keys. The best experience so far I had with my late Nexus 5! How easy is to customize the HTC 10? I never had HTC's before. Regarding ease of customization, bootloader unlock and warranty how does it go? I am about to return an Axon 7 and maybe exchange it with a 10.
Thanks in advance!
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Assuming you have the Verizon model....Once you use Sunshine to S-Off this phone the world is your oyster. Great/robust dev community and help/support/guides to assist you through anything you want to do with your phone.
The combination of the above and that HTC makes what I think are the most gorgeous looking and well built phones...it's been a win win for me since my Thunderbolt lol
gibawatts said:
Hello guys!
I had experiences with several brands. I gave up Samsung due to the Knox Counter and Sony due to the DRM keys. The best experience so far I had with my late Nexus 5! How easy is to customize the HTC 10? I never had HTC's before. Regarding ease of customization, bootloader unlock and warranty how does it go? I am about to return an Axon 7 and maybe exchange it with a 10.
Thanks in advance!
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I've had a huge amount of devices, ( look at my sig and you'll see) and I've always come back to HTC, reason being is that they offer something a little different, but what's more they always have the most talented developers and the oldest serving, on XDA, Villain rom, etc, they always come up with the goods.
Not to mention that the root, unlocking of the bootloader and s-off (if you s-off) is reversible. Samsung is not, as it has an efuse chip as does the nexus too AFAIK.
There literally isn't anything you can't change on this device and with pretty much any other htc device, if you've had a htc before and gone on to something else, Sony or Sammy are good examples, you'll always be looking back over the fence, and when a new HTC comes out you'll just hate your current device, eg: I got rid of a six month old nexus 6P for this 10
Just unlock the bootloader, s-off if you must or want to, I believe that you can flash firmwares easier with it switched off, it's £20 so not great but it always works, install a custom recovery and flash away.
In terms of roms, Venom probably offers the most comprehensive list of tweaks and mods but LeeDroid is equally as good and as customizable, perhaps not with the length of venom tweaks but still great. Other roms I can guess are similar and when CM is completely fixed, well start seeing CM, AOSP and similar roms heading for us too.
In short, the answer to your question is a huge yes, I don't think I'll ever get another Samsung or Sony again, nothing wrong with them, they're just not for me and I'll miss HTC if I do.
Stripped, themed, ghostpeppered, and running like a bat out of hell....
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Great/robust dev community and help/support/guides to assist you through anything you want to do with your phone.
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I hope I can piggy-back off of this thread just a bit.
When you refer to the developer community for HTC, are you referring particularly to here on XDA-Developers, or in general everywhere? I'm thinking of getting an HTC 10, but I'm wondering the best/simplest way to keep it going with Android updates well past HTC's stated support period. I haven't done anything with my HTC Incredible S, but I'm looking to be a bit more proactive with my next phone. What are some of the more stable ROMs that you--or anyone else, for that matter--would recommend to keep this phone continually updated for years to come? Longevity is important to me.
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I hope I can piggy-back off of this thread just a bit.
When you refer to the developer community for HTC, are you referring particularly to here on XDA-Developers, or in general everywhere? I'm thinking of getting an HTC 10, but I'm wondering the best/simplest way to keep it going with Android updates well past HTC's stated support period. I haven't done anything with my HTC Incredible S, but I'm looking to be a bit more proactive with my next phone. What are some of the more stable ROMs that you--or anyone else, for that matter--would recommend to keep this phone continually updated for years to come? Longevity is important to me.
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Long time Samsung user here. I got my US unlocked HTC 10 a few months ago. Best phone I ever had. Would not even consider an S7 in comparison.
The two primary Sense-based Roms for the 10 are Viper and LeeDroid. I've tried both and prefer Viper. I think that would be your long-term solution. Get an unlocked 10 if you can afford to for maximum flexibility and choice of service providers. Unlock the bootloader, S-Off, and flash Viper. You can't go wrong in my opinion.
BTW, this is just a general discussion thread. Each Rom, Kernel, recovery, etc etc have their own dedicated threads where you'll find in-depth info.
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The two primary Sense-based Roms for the 10 are Viper and LeeDroid.
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Are there any inherent advantages of a Sense-based ROM in terms of stability or ease of installation? Sorry for such a pedestrian question, but is there anything as simple as good ol' Nexus-style vanilla Android, or is that something that's even too easy to be asking about?
Thanks guys, still considering the 10. Now I am between the 10, 6P and Pixel XL. The painful fact is that I am currently with no phone. When I went to return the Axon, there were no 10s in stock at the store. The wait for the Pixel is just killing me! And to worsen things a bit, I just ran into a 128 GB Nexus 6P. I am a real sucker for OLED screens you, know? That is why I still didn't buy the 10.
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Are there any inherent advantages of a Sense-based ROM in terms of stability or ease of installation? Sorry for such a pedestrian question, but is there anything as simple as good ol' Nexus-style vanilla Android, or is that something that's even too easy to be asking about?
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Gawd, I could never go back to stock. Most people want a custom Rom firstly to get rid of all the bloatware installed by their service providers. Apps you'll never use, sitting there taking up space and even running in the background. Then there is the customizing you can do to set up your phone just how you want it. However, HTC has promised us that they will be providing us with a Rom upgrade to Android 7 in a couple of months and that Rom may be nice as-is. Bottom line - if you want maximum control over your 10, go custom. If stock meets your needs stay with that.
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Gawd, I could never go back to stock. Most people want a custom Rom firstly to get rid of all the bloatware installed by their service providers. Apps you'll never use, sitting there taking up space and even running in the background. Then there is the customizing you can do to set up your phone just how you want it. However, HTC has promised us that they will be providing us with a Rom upgrade to Android 7 in a couple of months and that Rom may be nice as-is. Bottom line - if you want maximum control over your 10, go custom. If stock meets your needs stay with that.
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I'm sorry, I may not have been clear. I was asking about a Sense-based ROM vs. stock Android (not stock Sense). I'd like it as simple, stripped down, and Nexus-like as possible, but I don't know how much tinkering each modder does with their various ROMs. I also want a ROM from a modder who will support it down the road for several Android versions, but I seem to have an answer to that question already. What I don't understand yet is the likelihood of stock/vanilla Android running smoothly on the HTC 10. Is that what's being called AOSP, or is that something else entirely?
(For what it's worth, I'd be getting the international version, called the M10h, I believe.)
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I'm sorry, I may not have been clear. I was asking about a Sense-based ROM vs. stock Android (not stock Sense). I'd like it as simple, stripped down, and Nexus-like as possible, but I don't know how much tinkering each modder does with their various ROMs. I also want a ROM from a modder who will support it down the road for several Android versions, but I seem to have an answer to that question already. What I don't understand yet is the likelihood of stock/vanilla Android running smoothly on the HTC 10. Is that what's being called AOSP, or is that something else entirely?
(For what it's worth, I'd be getting the international version, called the M10h, I believe.)
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AOSP is the Android Open Source Project. Yes, this is sometimes referred to as the "stock" Rom. Google provides the code base for the stock Rom. Various developers use this code base and then add their own code enhancements to produce an extended version of the stock Rom. Most custom Roms are Cyanogenmod-based. This is the company that has put their particular twist on the stock Rom. A Sense-based Rom is yet another enhanced version of the stock Rom. Both use the same AOSP code base and customize it in various ways and for various phones.
Some people actually do prefer the more standard stock Rom for various reasons. It is simpler and typically more robust for dealing with the limited and specific tasks it was designed for. A good custom Rom can be just as robust as stock in every way, but also allows the user to do much more with the phone. It can be overclocked to run much faster, have better audio, a highly customizable user interface, and so on.
Viper, on the Sense-based side, and Resurrection Remix on the Cyanogenmod-based side are both better than the stock Rom in my view and people using those Roms get many more updates to their Roms via the developers than stock Rom users do. Some developers are still producing custom Roms for the Samsung SII -- a very old phone that Samsung dropped support for years ago.
Check this out for the HTC 10:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development/rom-21-02-viper10-1-0-0-tweaks-hub-t3379151
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A Sense-based Rom is yet another enhanced version of the stock Rom. Both use the same AOSP code base and customize it in various ways and for various phones.
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Can I assume a Sense-based ROM will have a better chance of everything working properly (ie. camera, NFC, audio, etc.) since it's starting off with something further down the fork in AOSP designed specifically for the HTC 10? Or am I misunderstanding how ROMs work?
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Can I assume a Sense-based ROM will have a better chance of everything working properly (ie. camera, NFC, audio, etc.) since it's starting off with something further down the fork in AOSP designed specifically for the HTC 10? Or am I misunderstanding how ROMs work?
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Haha, you're really doing your research.
Yes, a sense based ROM is less likely to have bugs, however bugs are usually listed in the OP of every rom thread. A matured AOSP ROM won't have anything broken, but things may not work as well or as intended by HTC.
I think sense based is the way to go with this device, lots of good features HTC has developed that work well with the phone like the camera application and blinkfeed. Not to mention the polished look of the phone in general and the underrated theme store, it just works well together. You'd lose all of that with AOSP, not so much key features not working.
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Haha, you're really doing your research.
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Yes. It's my most annoying characteristic, according to my wife. Now I just have to find a developer who keeps things simple & stable, and who will support it until 2021.
Thanks for your replies. And I apologize to gibawatts for hijacking this thread a bit. I hope it was still useful for you, too.
Did you guys decide?
It's still $150 off, which assisted me in my decision to go from the Nexus 5 to the htc 10 (and a nice, even doubling for us OCD types).
My short answer: the htc 10 is ever-so-slightly less customisable than the Nexus 5; I've installed everything on it that I had on the Nexus (SuperSU, Xposed, Gravitybox, Xprivacy, AdAway, etc.). N-ify works on it.
My only "issue" so far is that GravityBox can't remove the Calculator and Extreme Power Saver quicktile htc put there..real fine points here. (I've only had the thing 2 days, so there may be more but no show-stoppers for a purist like me). Sense 8 is more like an alternative launcher than an overhaul like TouchWiz or old versions of Sense. Wife likes it (coming from her N5/NovaLauncher) and I'm giving it a whirl.
Manual firmware updates would be the only caveat AFAICT but that is still better than what I had with N5: OTAs broke and I just never installed them due to lack of interest...not a habit I want to carry with me, however. My point being that the Nexus 5 was actually more of a hassle to me to update than what this seems like it would be (though I've not tested it yet but there's much discussion on the procedure here).
Wife is attached to OLED (SIII had a wonderful display) but she likes the htc 10 display and did not like the N5 display.
I love the feedback you guys got/gave here. This here is a model XDA thread.
I would just like to add that HTC's Sense ROM is quite bare-boned compared to other non-Nexus OEMs. Compared to the Axon, it'll look almost like a Nexus device.
Everyone else pretty much covered the other important things. I'd like to point out that CM/AOSP/Vanilla ROMs for the HTC 10 are still a bit down the road and they still need quite a bit of work, so when you get it, expect to either stay with Sense, or Sense-based custom ROMs for at least the next few months. No complaints on that from my side. Even if you do eventually flash CM/AOSP/Vanilla ROMs, I'll wager that you'll end up downloading some of HTC's apps, like Camera, Gallery, and Music. They blow away vanilla Android apps and 3rd party alternatives.
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ZTE being mod-hostile turned me off to them; they have to establish a solid history of unlock/mod-friendliness for me to even look at them. (No, a press release stating that they would, in the future, answer questions from CyanogenMod folks to develop their ROM doesn't win me over in any way whatsoever.)
I surmised that the OnePlus 3 was too customised to be considered a Nexus spiritual successor (it was the phone I wanted to like/buy). Really, they only need to make good hardware and just use already-made AOSP and spend dev time getting drivers and such primo to have a winner (and with lower overhead) rather than trying to reinvent the wheel that nobody will want. It's like they're trying to sorta be Nexus and sorta be Sense/TouchWiz/et al but is there really a market for that? Is there really no market for Nexus? (I dunno...the Pixel thing has me befuddled and the no-more-Nexus thing has me ferhoodled.)
So, yeah, I'm liking the htc 10, which, being both funny and sad, I didn't even look at. My wife mentioned it and the $150 off, so we took a look and got'em. (I was still soured by my Evo 3D experience that led me to use then-Best Buy's 30-day return policy)
One more tid-bit I neglected to mention earlier: I'm glad I got the unlocked/dev version...no issue getting official RUUs all official-like, officially. I don't ever want to deal with "carrier" stuff.
P.S. Good to know about the camera, gallery, and music apps. Those are important to my wife (I'm happy with those being "functional" but also happy to just have the same software between us..easier to maintain and to answer her questions).