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[Q] What ROM To Use?

I am ready to dive in with the Unrevoked3 method to root my Desire, I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although I am interested in what the whole ROM scene has to offer.
I presume that all my paid apps will still work as well?

i would stick to the rom you are using because if you have to ask that question, you haven't done enough research, if there was a single answer to what rom to use, then there wouldn't be so many around
so the final answer is, stick to the stock froyo that you've got already, there's nothing to be gained from other roms considering you didn't specify what it is you were looking for

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bamboo12 said:
you haven't done enough research .. you didn't specify what it is you were looking for
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I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.

DroidBois said:
I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.
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Your way of research really puzzles me looking at the bold parts in your OP below.
I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although
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- Yes, you should be able to flash a custom rom, if you can follow the instructions.
- There is no comprehensive list, the number of rom's and the changes are to large to keep it up to date, or do you offer to create one
- suggestions will tell you to use rom a, b, s, or z, depending on the users preferences. The only thing you can do is to read the rom description, and start skimming and following the rom's which description you liked.
A thing you left out, and what is normally mentioned in a question like this, do you prefer sense or non-sense?
To finish: I use LeeDroiD V2.1 and I am happy with it, it's stable / reliable, and it's Sense based.
Now just wait for the OD, DeFrost, Pays, Cyanogen (just some examples) and other rom users to give there opinion,
and then decide

^^ pretty much what he said!!
No one can tell you what to use, only give their opinions. Ultimately you'll have to read the threads and just try the ROMs until you find one you're happy with. I've gone back to stock as it does what I need it to

i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
i guess it's like hazing for nerds.
seriously though, i'm gonna answer all your questions right here and now:
go with CM6. then download another one and try it. then download another one and try it. and then... come back here and tell us what your opinion is. you know, pay it forward and don't become one of those condescending dorks after you have figured it all out.
that is all. i'm going bowling with your father...

anotherdroid said:
i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
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Well, when you don't get out much and you don't have many friends.. We should be more sympathetic to 'special needs' people.
Anyway, I'm on AuraxTsense now (check my sig for full details). I like the concept of undervolting for extended battery life, however before I dive in to ROMs, what can cause damage? I will avoid overclocking ROMs for that reason, anything else to watch out for?
What's the advantage of Cyanogen over others? I also read that Modaco ROMs are designed with stability in mind.
Is there any way to back up settings to restore when switching ROMs? Or should I just back each one up with all my settings and use that?

In the last week or so I've tried at least
- Cyanogen
- PirateRUM
- Some PAYS Sense one
- OpenDesire
- ShadowSense
+ another 1 or 2 I forget now
with Alex-V's one still to try.
The main thing I'd say is:
- Do you want Sense?
- Do you want GApps and other fluff preinstalled?
Try them and see...
Personally
- I like OD but it needs the Sense music player
- CM has no market, and I have not worked out how cutdown it's GApps package yet to remove fluff

I have been using cyanogenmod 6 for a few days now.
And im not going anywere anytime soon
However, like they say, try em all

Aurax is rocking my boat right now although struggling to work out how to install Maps..
What do you like about Cyanogen?

The ui is good. It just works. Try out for yourself. Painless to install. Ohh and the battery performance is alot better then the stock rom
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM

faraon83 said:
Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM
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???
Wow you just dug up a 2yr old thread!!
Sent from my HTC Desire

He needs 10 posts...
Dude... reply to the newer threads. At least november 2012.

Noob feeling totally lost...

Hi guys, just like to apologize for the noobness about to come, after looking around for 2 days im still no clearer at all...
So i have a new HTC Desire Z and i have the latest firmware that is officially released, no modding or anything yet has been done to the phone and im using sense 2.1...
Ok so im looking to modify my phone to get the latest sense 2.3 and to also be able to customize the phone a bit more then just changing themes other then just htc sense ones...
I dont understand at all if i need to root or the correct way to root on a desire z as ive read that some ways can brick the phone....
I also dont know if i need a new rom or where to get the from, again i heard that some are stable and some not and some can cause semi bricking. I also dont know if htc sense is part of the os or if it can be changed without altering anything else...
Im sure ill have more questions but thats in advance to all that can help.
Ps i also dont mind 1on1 msn help just send me a pm and ill give you my email address
Thank you
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA App

Hello and welcome to the boards. XDA is a great place to ask questions and learn techniques and procedures to get the most out of your device. You just have to think and ask the right questions, or risk being targeted (it happens sometimes =p).
First, I think we need some basic information:
Do you have the Desire Z or the T-Mobile G2 variant? Since you are asking about Sense, I want to assume you have the DZ, but just want to make sure.
What is the current baseband (build version)?
Do you have root yet?
Are you S-OFF yet?
As for ROMs, feel free to browse around the Dev Forums. Here are my recommendations, I've used all of them in the past or am currently using them right now.
Stable Sense (2.1) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Sense from the Virtuous Team.
Stable Sense (3.0) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Unity from the Virtuous Team.
Stable AOSP GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous G-Lite from the Virtuous Team.
Stable MIUI GB (2.3.5) ROM: MIUI.us Official English from MIUI.us.
I have not used Cyanogen Nightlies because I'm not too keen on flashing almost every night. Those ROMs are for people who like to be on the bleeding edge IMO. The above recommendations are for stability and daily usage.
As a note, Sense ROMs take alot of resources to run and may be laggy at the start. That's the price to pay for Social Networking Integration and other convenience items (nicer widgets, etc...). AOSP variants will be quicker and use less memory, but they don't come with convenience options.

Athrun88 said:
As for ROMs, feel free to browse around the Dev Forums. Here are my recommendations, I've used all of them in the past or am currently using them right now.
Stable Sense (2.1) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Sense from the Virtuous Team.
Stable Sense (3.0) GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous Unity from the Virtuous Team.
Stable AOSP GB (2.3) ROM: Virtuous G-Lite from the Virtuous Team.
Stable MIUI GB (2.3.5) ROM: MIUI.us Official English from MIUI.us.
As a note, Sense ROMs take alot of resources to run and may be laggy at the start. That's the price to pay for Social Networking Integration and other convenience items (nicer widgets, etc...). AOSP variants will be quicker and use less memory, but they don't come with convenience options.
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Im not rooted or s-off, my phone is on orange and is a desire Z.
My os is 2.3.3 and sense 2.1
Ive read somewhere in a sticky maybe to not flash virtuous... But im not sure if thats a pre-caution... I must admit im a sucker for the sense ui with its flashy looks and animations lol,
Ive heard of miui too... Another reason for wanting to do this is to remove default apps, i find it rather annoying to look thru about 5 map apps (and i dont really know which one is good or not...) And a bunch of other things when i only use facebook msn and occasionally skype. Other default apps ive probably never and wil never touch.
The sense 3.0 is the version i was thinking of btw not 2.3 (was thinking of gb) and yes stability and daily use is very much a priority as i am a noob and probably should start somewhere easy lol.
Thanks again for helping (searches for thx button in app xD)
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA App

I disliked sense ever since i got my G2.
I found CM7 far superior to all of the sense roms. Though i do miss the contact linking sense does.

psychuil said:
I disliked sense ever since i got my G2.
I found CM7 far superior to all of the sense roms. Though i do miss the contact linking sense does.
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CM7? Lol, contact linking is useful as i am lazy and i can use contact linking to get hold of most people i kno easily however skype seems to dislike linking as some of my contacts have linked to ALL of my skype contacts.
I guess im confused about where to start as there seems to be a lot of conflicting statements, sense seems to be a.... UI overlay ontop of the standard android os, is sense the only one of its kind or is there others that are different from the android UI?
Again thanks a lot and sorry if this seems so nooby, im just trying to gather info and links before i run into problems and ask more nooby questions.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA App

I suggest starting with some of these links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
Read, read, read. And after you've done that, read some more.
I spent months before finally making the decision to crack open this phone and load CM7, pouring over everything I could find regarding not only how to do it, but the "whys" of what I am doing. Understanding the inner workings of what you are doing will make the process much much simpler once you finally do it.
I'm still fairly new to the android game. I came from the iphone scene, where if you wanted to get the full power of the phone all you had to do was click once and be done with it. The android way may be more complicated at times, but is much more fun, and rewarding. Once you become familiar with it all, you will never want to turn back.
My suggestion, as a fellow newbie:
1) Read: Understand what you are up against
2) Plan: Decide what you want to do. Do you just want root? Flash Roms? What Roms do you want? etc.
3) Gather: Get together all the information you'll need. Phone info, tutorials, etc. Write it down if necessary, but make sure it is all handy in case it is needed or you have to run IRC/forums for help.
4) Attack: Pull the trigger and do it.
5) ???
6) Profit.

Yea... I understand how much noobs annoy people however i also know that people should ask in appropriate places and get all the info needed so they dont act like a pro when they have no clue, i was started to get a good idea of things until i got all confused as there is no... Archive type forum for roms and stickies about what is good or bad yet im never sure if these are to warn every1 or jus noobs.
I greatly appreciate help though im looking forward to my experience with android, thanks on the beginner links too. If any1 else has any other recommended links or recommendations at all i would be appreciative!
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA App

penfold1992 said:
Yea... I understand how much noobs annoy people however i also know that people should ask in appropriate places and get all the info needed so they dont act like a pro when they have no clue, i was started to get a good idea of things until i got all confused as there is no... Archive type forum for roms and stickies about what is good or bad yet im never sure if these are to warn every1 or jus noobs.
I greatly appreciate help though im looking forward to my experience with android, thanks on the beginner links too. If any1 else has any other recommended links or recommendations at all i would be appreciative!
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA App
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LOL
Well from my understanding, there are several different ways to accomplish the same thing when it comes to rooting and getting ready to flash. I followed the XDA wiki method and had no issues.
If you're confused about ROMs, there are usually a handful of stable, widely used ones. MIUI, Cyanogen, and Virtuous seems to be the most popular. I know you had mentioned wanting Sense 3.0, so Virtuous Unity might be the way to go for you.
Feel free to shoot me a PM if you have any questions. If I don't have the answer I'm sure I can dig it up somewhere.

penfold1992 said:
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Ive read somewhere in a sticky maybe to not flash virtuous... But im not sure if thats a pre-caution...
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I think you mean the sticky thread warning not to use the Visionary tool to root, as it has been known to screw up the memory partitions and possibly lead to a soft brick. This has nothing to do with the Virtuous ROMs, which are excellent, and mostly what I run on my Desire Z.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025135
Stick with the method in the Wiki to root. Its not that hard, and its considered the safest way.

As said above, read, read, and read some more. And always ask questions, we love to help out. If you like sense, I hear the virtuous sense 3.0 rom is pretty sweet, though most roms over in development are great.
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4) Attack: Pull the trigger and do it.
5) ???
6) Profit.
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Lol, love it!
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Development? Im assuming you mean in the desire Z android development... Is it worth browsing other forums that are not in the desire Z sub forum? Or would they just give confusing information about other android based phones. Oh and can i safely rely on these recommended roms to have good keyboard support for the slide out keyboard
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It could be worth it, but if you're feeling overwhelmed maybe not. I hang out in the Nook Color forums as well. Something things will carry over. As long as you can understand the similarities (what is a ROM, etc) and differences (rooting methods, etc). You'll be fine.

[Q] Getting Verizon Nexus. (Rom suggestions)

Hello there everyone. I have been browsing this site for about the past 2 years but only decided to register because I am upgrading from my OG Droid Incredible to the Nexus and i see how large and active the Dev base is for this device. I have a fair amount of experience with flashing roms on my Dinc (currently running CM7.2) and am excited to make the move to ICS.
I would like some opinions on what you guys think are the best custom roms out for the nexus though. so far I am very interested in AOKP because it seems to be the most stable and polished rom i have seen. I plan to flash my nexus right out of the box when i get it.
Also, i can't seem to find a place to add a signature in the Cpanel, is there one somewhere or do you guys just add on a Copy/Paste to the end of posts?

If you've been around this site for a couple of years now you should know that asking "what the best ROM is" only leads to closed threads. Its all a matter of opinion. What works for one person may not necessarily work for another.. why this person thinks this ROM is the best, another person may think the opposite. It's best to try them out for yourself, see which one YOU like.
As far as editing your sig.. at the top somewhere on your PC, you'll see User CP (user control panel).. click it. Then look to the left if your screen.. along the sidebar you should see Edit Signature. ..if that's what your referring to!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

i'm sorry if i come off like i want to know what the "best rom" is, i know that there is no best rom and like you said what works for one person may not work for another. that being said, some personal opinions about their taste in roms are still useful are they not?. and i do fully intend to try out several roms. as for my experience with this site, 90% of it has been with viewing the first page of rom posts, so i apologize for my ignorance in that regard. and i thoroughly searched through the user control panel to no avail, signatures must be disabled for me if that is where the interface to change them is located.
[EDIT] the reason joined this site is because with the nexus, i would actually like to get involved in the dev community and create something new, i was trying to use this thread more as a "say hi" kind of thread than just asking about what rom i should get. i dont think i accomplished that very well.

My advice is to just unlock bootloader, root and then run STOCK ROM. I have been running ROMS on phones here for a long time and for the first time on a phone think at this point the STOCK rom is the best and most stable. Next to it I would say Mikes AHRD is a great stable rom and that is always his goal. But try them all if you like. I would stay STOCK>

ROMs, root etc.

So yeah! xD
Im just really curious about what ROM i should use and how im going to root my one x. I ordered it today so it´ll probably be at my house on thursday cus of easter.. But i was like why not to start a bit early and check out what ROM i should use and stuff..
So my big question is what ROM would you guys recommend? Also give a few example why you think i should use that ROM I just came back from my HTC Sensation so i know a few things but not that much
It would mean alot to me if somebody could help me out with this!
THANKS!

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So yeah! xD
Im just really curious about what ROM i should use and how im going to root my one x. I ordered it today so it´ll probably be at my house on thursday cus of easter.. But i was like why not to start a bit early and check out what ROM i should use and stuff..
So my big question is what ROM would you guys recommend? Also give a few example why you think i should use that ROM I just came back from my HTC Sensation so i know a few things but not that much
It would mean alot to me if somebody could help me out with this!
THANKS!
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Congrats for your new phone.
There are a lot of rooting guides available. Just look at the stickies.
As for ROMs, there are a lot of ROMs to start with.
You want AOSP or Sense?
ViperX is the best Sense ROM.
SlimBean is the best AOSP ROM.
You may try out both.
Sent from my HTC ViperX

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Congrats for your new phone.
There are a lot of rooting guides available. Just look at the stickies.
As for ROMs, there are a lot of ROMs to start with.
You want AOSP or Sense?
ViperX is the best Sense ROM.
SlimBean is the best AOSP ROM.
You may try out both.
Sent from my HTC ViperX
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Hey thanks for answering!
I dont really know what i want right now But i will try both I also found the "rooting tool" so i guess i will be using that one
Also i just read in some forum that i should update something before i root it? Do you know anything about it, because i lost the site Thanks again mate!

There is no "best" rom. Viper X is not the best rom, its the most customizable rom.....yes.
The best rom is the rom that fits you and your needs the most.

Athulele, it's inappropriate to take two ROMs you like and call them the best of all. It's false information.
@OP
It is purely based on opinion and you should definitely develop your own taste of software and not simply flash stuff that people tell you to.
@Hofs I'm just sayin', that AOKP is equally (if not even more) customizable to ViperX
Sorry for groaning
Sent from my IceCold One X

ROM Comparison threads are unfortunately not allowed on XDA. A lot of people have different ideas of what is best and unfortunately sharing their ideas and opinions frequently leads to trolling, flaming and more.
My personal recommendation would be to visit some of the ROM threads in the Development section. Read the OP. Preview the screenshots. Skim through some of the user comments and complaints. Find one you're interested in and give it a shot. If you like it keep it, if you don't move on and try another.
With that being said this thread is now closed.

Need some help guys

Hii guys I dont know if it allowed here but I need to know what Rom is the best for gaming and smothness.. Its not my phone so I cant test all the Rom and choose one so maybe you can help me
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Try a few, mate. Different people have different preferences, and you're, no doubt, going to get varied/several suggestions to your question and are going to be as confused as you were BEFORE you posed that question.

As I say mate its not my phone so I cant have enough time to test all of them
So I thought maybe the guys will suggest something
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Hi bro
At first for better speed You should Use Gb Roms
I Recommend Orginal XPERIA S Rom By Zohaib0001
And if it Bootloader is open I Recommend DooMKernel Bicause Thats verrry nice
In This Rom and Kernel HD Games were Lag free for me
Sorry for my English Language

No.
This is a good topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2097137

Since a new topic has been opened...why not finish it instead of filling it up with the usual garbage which helps nobody.
He has already stated its not his phone and cant try them all out.
If your not going to be helpful...stay quiet, simple.
Like said above, GB roms will give best reliability and good for games.
Personally I have tried quite a few GB roms and I recommend xgamer.
Despite the name i found it quite battery friendly.
I last used it on v1.8 and couldnt fault it.
GB doesnt look too pretty but it gets the job done!

There's a reason for forum rules, in this case, to stop petty arguments regarding roms/devs. Everybody on XDA was a newb at one point and most follow the rules. There are no 'bad' roms or 'best' roms, anyone can read a rom thread and find out from the feedback on that thread which rom they like.