It would be a pure miracle if brand new OS's like Android were released without bugs. But we are not living in a utopia - Android 7.1.1 is extremely buggy. (BTW, if you are not experiencing bugs, your settings and apps installed are very different, and not at all like mine. Hence the bugs - they are not features, they appear when they please, for different setups.) One of the latest bugs is the "Android OS" battery drain. I have my Pixel XL set up like the rest of my phones - minimal notifications, minimal features, minimal drain. And until 7.1.1 and the latest "Google" app update, my stuff was working just fine.
Enter the newest update, BAM! We have battery drain from "Android OS." No battery drain before 7.1.1! Double battery drain after!
Here are the actual numbers.
Normal battery drain with a smartwatch connected, most basic push notifications enabled like Gmail, wifi on - about 0.5% battery per hour. Phone awake time is about 10% or less, depending on settings.
New, abnormal battery drain, with a new Google app - drain is at least double, 1+% per hour, phone awake time is at least 20+% time.
This used to be a problem before. Then they fixed it. Now it is here again!
It's as if these people keep reusing the same basic and buggy code!
Is it possible? Google started hiring coding people who reuse buggy original code without even checking what was wrong with it in the first place?
Sorry to hear your having problem. Mine has been buttery smooth since day one. Only issue I ever had was using open wifi networks but that I fixed but turning off the setting to automatically connect to open wifi networks, which is of no use to me anyway as I know all the places that I go that have free wifi and they are all saved to my phone.
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Sorry to hear your having problem. Mine has been buttery smooth since day one. Only issue I ever had was using open wifi networks but that I fixed but turning off the setting to automatically connect to open wifi networks, which is of no use to me anyway as I know all the places that I go that have free wifi and they are all saved to my phone.
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Thank you. I've just been very frustrated with the inability of the coolest company in the world to fix the most obvious bugs.
It's like their ideology has become "innovate first, fix problems at the very last moment, no matter the cost." So many bugs!
And I've been using Samsung phones, intertwined with a few Nexus and HTC devices, for the last 3 years - their update schedule is atrocious, but at least they release nearly flawless updates. Also, their software is top notch, aside from the lag and non-functioning S-Voice, which one can disable.
But the Google Bluetooth problems have been around for literally years. And the "Android OS" battery drain bug has been around for a few years. They keep fixing it, and keep reintroducing it. It seems like whoever is in charge of their Bluetooth department is a complete moron. Same for Android OS battery drain bug.
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It's like their ideology has become "innovate first, fix problems at the very last moment, no matter the cost." So many bugs!
And I've been using Samsung phones, intertwined with a few Nexus and HTC devices, for the last 3 years - their update schedule is atrocious, but at least they release nearly flawless updates. Also, their software is top notch, aside from the lag and non-functioning S-Voice, which one can disable.
But the Google Bluetooth problems have been around for literally years. And the "Android OS" battery drain bug has been around for a few years. They keep fixing it, and keep reintroducing it. It seems like whoever is in charge of their Bluetooth department is a complete moron. Same for Android OS battery drain bug.
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OMG, this post made LOL for real. The best part...
"nearly flawless updates. Also, their software is top notch, aside from the lag and non-functioning S-Voice"
Aside from Lag, LOL.
Sorry that was funny!
But back to your issue. I checked my devices and I am not getting any drain. I am on 7.1.1 with Elemental X 1.02 Kernel. Right now I am at 12 hours with 20% battery use with a prediction of another 48 hours.
Can you screenshot your battery screen so I can see it?
EDIT: Here is mine...
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I'm sure Samsung would love to have these "problems" right now.
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I'm sure Samsung would love to have these "problems" right now.
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Hehe... I am guessing a Note 7 reference?
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Hehe... I am guessing a Note 7 reference?
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Lol.
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OMG, this post made LOL for real. The best part...
"nearly flawless updates. Also, their software is top notch, aside from the lag and non-functioning S-Voice"
Aside from Lag, LOL.
Sorry that was funny!
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I don't understand. You are a developer with 65k thanks votes yet you seem to suggest that lag elimination is more important than squashing of bugs? Do you work for Google, because that seems to be their strategy now? Maybe because iPhones are faster, even though they are complete ****...
I am sorry but currently I cannot use my BT car kit, Motorola Roadster 2, because a BT bug disables it when I'm wearing my beautiful Huawei watch with a custom shiny band. I'm sorry but my battery is draining twice faster than it used to after the latest Google app update. And I'm sorry if I like my Samsung Note 7, which tried to do too much and was crucified by the press. It was 10 times the phone my current Pixel XL is. Oh yeah, Note 7 didn't have the BT bug. Life was good!
Here - some real life sentiment injected for genuineness.
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But back to your issue. I checked my devices and I am not getting any drain. I am on 7.1.1 with Elemental X 1.02 Kernel. Right now I am at 12 hours with 20% battery use with a prediction of another 48 hours.
Can you screenshot your battery screen so I can see it?
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You don't want to see my screenshot. It's much better than yours even after the Android OS bug. My Pixel XL is currently draining about 1% per hour when it's idle. That is about twice of what it used to do before the latest Google app update. And yours is even twice more!
How can you not see these problems?!
I just never understand why Samsung fans come on Google phone forums and rant like they actually own the devices in question. By the time they end the tirade I'd have sold my "flawed" device and gone back to my Sammy. This has been going on since the N5 with a huge rant in the 5x forum and now in the Pixel and the XL. But to be fair there are Moto fans doing it too. Not many iPhone users, a testament to the phone since they will almost never buy an Android. Bottom line, why don't they just sell it or even better why buy it, if they actually do. It's interesting that there are usually no screen shots backing up the claims of Google bugs (bugs! x3) One bug was simply not enough. I just don't get it. Sell it already!!! (x3)
Its very possible your phone is having issues yet I haven't seen anything that indicates you have tried to fix said issues . Have you done a factory reset ? Have you tried to clear caches ? Is it an app on your phone causing these issues ? I only ask these questions mainly due to the fact the other manufacturers you listed in your post would ask you to do the same thing . As for Scott he has been developing roms since as far back as I can remember and has done nothing but outstanding work . I have personally ran his roms and can honestly say he knows what he is talking about . It was his software I started using when I first started rooting etc etc . As for bugs in OS updates I have seen them on everything from HTC , Samsung , Moto , LG and Apple . I would advise relaxing,doing some digging around to find others who have said problems and utilizing whatever fixes they have applied to correct the issues you mentioned .
It is too bad the op needs to use offensive terms to express him/herself...
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Its very possible your phone is having issues yet I haven't seen anything that indicates you have tried to fix said issues . Have you done a factory reset ? Have you tried to clear caches ? Is it an app on your phone causing these issues ? I only ask these questions mainly due to the fact the other manufacturers you listed in your post would ask you to do the same thing . As for Scott he has been developing roms since as far back as I can remember and has done nothing but outstanding work . I have personally ran his roms and can honestly say he knows what he is talking about . It was his software I started using when I first started rooting etc etc . As for bugs in OS updates I have seen them on everything from HTC , Samsung , Moto , LG and Apple . I would advise relaxing,doing some digging around to find others who have said problems and utilizing whatever fixes they have applied to correct the issues you mentioned .
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Have I done a factory reset? Yes, when Project Fi was just isn't working, and I was on the phone with a Google rep for 90 minutes, I did a factory reset. It fixed the issue with project FI.
Have I tried to clear caches? Yes, I have cleared caches and sometimes data for many apps.
I am beginning to see a pattern.. Are you suggesting that my problems with bugs are of my own doing?
As if I'm using specific settings that only I prefer and apps only I prefer that are breaking a brand new os, that is completely bug free...
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Offensive?
3/7
Pretty OK attempt to piss people off but a lot of us saw right through it. I'm not here to defend my Pixel XL (which is amazing), I'm actually just here to pick apart your argument. Newsflash: The Note 7, battery issues aside, sucked. (See: With the Note 7, Samsung Still Delivers Embarrassing Real-World Performance).
No screenshots to backup your complaints and your insults and bragging are as ridiculous as the thread title. Someone refutes your claims with actual proof and you claim it's much worse but preface this whole conversation with "Well, if you don't have this battery drain problem it's because you don't use the same apps as me". OK, so is that an Android issue or is it an app issue? I'll admit that Google frameworks updates have caused wakelock and battery drain issues in the past on my N5X and N5, but they were usually easily remedied. Not every release is perfect. Even a company like Apple, developing a new iOS update for only a handful of devices (not thousands of different ones like Android), struggles with smooth releases.
If you hate the phone so much, sell it. I'm sure someone else would love to have it as a late Christmas gift.
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Pretty OK attempt to piss people off but a lot of us saw right through it. I'm not here to defend my Pixel XL (which is amazing), I'm actually just here to pick apart your argument. Newsflash: The Note 7, battery issues aside, sucked. (See: With the Note 7, Samsung Still Delivers Embarrassing Real-World Performance).
No screenshots to backup your complaints and your insults and bragging are as ridiculous as the thread title. Someone refutes your claims with actual proof and you claim it's much worse but preface this whole conversation with "Well, if you don't have this battery drain problem it's because you don't use the same apps as me". OK, so is that an Android issue or is it an app issue? I'll admit that Google frameworks updates have caused wakelock and battery drain issues in the past on my N5X and N5, but they were usually easily remedied. Not every release is perfect. Even a company like Apple, developing a new iOS update for only a handful of devices (not thousands of different ones like Android), struggles with smooth releases.
If you hate the phone so much, sell it. I'm sure someone else would love to have it as a late Christmas gift.
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"Pretty OK attempt to piss people off"
You are crazy. That was not my intention at all. I'm sorry you felt that way.
"but a lot of us saw right through it"
You are double crazy to think that you have some kind of an army against me.
"I'm not here to defend my Pixel XL (which is amazing)"
You are literally doing the defending.
I'll skip pointless drivel that follows...
"Not every release is perfect."
No, this one is not perfect! This is my whole point!
How can you blindly praise an OS so buggy?
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"Pretty OK attempt to piss people off"
You are crazy. That was not my intention at all. I'm sorry you felt that way.
"but a lot of us saw right through it"
You are double crazy to think that you have some kind of an army against me.
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You can't apologize about making me feel a certain way and then immediately backhand me with an insult like "you're crazy".
It's also not an army, it's a dozen or so users that disagree with almost everything you're saying.
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"I'm not here to defend my Pixel XL (which is amazing)"
You are literally doing the defending.
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Because I stated my opinion of it being amazing? This is the one and only time I mention the Pixel XL, so I'm not sure how I'm defending it. If I had my N5X my attitude would still be the same. Is your argument against Android or is it the Pixel? Or is it Google? Hmm.
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Ok? You skipped the meat and potatoes of my post because you have no retort.
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"Not every release is perfect."
No, this one is not perfect! This is my whole point!
How can you blindly praise an OS so buggy?
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Let me rephrase: No release is perfect.
Now, let me ask you something. Do you update your computer? Do you like to update the apps you use every day? What's guaranteed to be on a change log for an update? Bug Fixes. Why are you holding Android (but only stock Android, not Samsung's bloated rendition) to a much higher standard? I'm blindly praising Android as much as you're blindly praising Samsung and your Nade Note 7.
Let me ask you something else. You say you're not trolling so what is the point of this thread? To see if anyone agrees with you? To fire up this silent majority of people that secretly hate their brand new phone? You can be disappointed with your flagship phone all you want, but you don't have to force your opinion on others. I'm always down for a civilized conversation but I won't tolerate insults as a rebuttal. I'm sorry you're disappointed with your phone or Android in general and I hope that you find the phone you're looking for. Maybe the Note 8 will be your cup of tea. Or maybe check out the OP3T, but be careful, it's running the latest release of Android.
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You can't apologize about making me feel a certain way and then immediately backhand me with an insult like "you're crazy".
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Apologize to you... Right.
I actually laughed out loud when I read that.
I don't normally do that.
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Apologize to you... Right.
I actually laughed out loud when I read that.
I don't normally do that.
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Where's the screenshots of you're battery stats.
The plot thickens......
Don't even tell me you guys got punked again.
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I have read many threads about bugs and possible, bugs on a phone that just launched....the HTC ONE X. Well let me tell you cry babies that every phone that launched new has had issues including the iPhone. Some of you cry, and compare this phone to the Galaxy Nexus.....really? Just run over to the Galaxy Nexus forum and look at all the bugs that it has. Hell Verizon has yet to get 4.04 patch, and all others just got a patch for a phone that has been released over 5 months ago....wtf.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585889
So far hardware wise this is the phone to beat, not every phone has these bugs, and there has been record of tester reviewers getting 1.27 patch that clears up all of these issues. All I have to say to some of you is yes phones should be perfect when launched in an ideal world, but we don't have perfect ideal lives or phones.
However; the Galaxy Nexus has just as many problems yet I see comparison threads as if it were running glitch free when it is not.
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I have read many threads about bugs and possible, bugs on a phone that just launched....the HTC ONE X. Well let me tell you cry babies that every phone that launched new has had issues including the iPhone. Some of you cry, and compare this phone to the Galaxy Nexus.....really? Just run over to the Galaxy Nexus forum and look at all the bugs that it has. Hell Verizon has yet to get 4.04 patch, and all others just got a patch for a phone that has been released over 5 months ago....wtf.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585889
So far hardware wise this is the phone to beat, not every phone has these bugs, and there has been record of tester reviewers getting 1.27 patch that clears up all of these issues. All I have to say to some of you is yes phones should be perfect when launched in an ideal world, but we don't have perfect ideal lives or phones.
However; the Galaxy Nexus has just as many problems yet I see comparison threads as if it were running glitch free when it is not.
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Stop crying dude. People will voice their opinion no matter what you say. Pocketnow review of the one x. Why don't you tell him to stop talking about lag and bugs. http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-one-x-review
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Stop crying dude. People will voice their opinion no matter what you say. Pocketnow review of the one x. Why don't you tell him to stop talking about lag and bugs. http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-one-x-review
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I am not the one crying you are the whiner here mister. Pocket Now gives this phone a good review with a point out of a few bugs. Go ahead talk about the bugs the phone has, but this thread is about finding bugs and comparing it to another buggy phone like the Galaxy Nexus.wtf
I am not, and have not suggested that if you have a bug feel happy say nothing. I am merely suggesting that the whiners comparing it to another buggy phone like the Galaxy Nexus to wake up. The Nexus still has bugs 5 months later. BTW Pocket Now called it the best Android device on the market today. Also there seems to be a 1.27 patch that a few reviewers had that seem not to have theses issues.
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I have read many threads about bugs and possible, bugs on a phone that just launched....the HTC ONE X. Well let me tell you cry babies that every phone that launched new has had issues including the iPhone. Some of you cry, and compare this phone to the Galaxy Nexus.....really? Just run over to the Galaxy Nexus forum and look at all the bugs that it has. Hell Verizon has yet to get 4.04 patch, and all others just got a patch for a phone that has been released over 5 months ago....wtf.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585889
So far hardware wise this is the phone to beat, not every phone has these bugs, and there has been record of tester reviewers getting 1.27 patch that clears up all of these issues. All I have to say to some of you is yes phones should be perfect when launched in an ideal world, but we don't have perfect ideal lives or phones.
However; the Galaxy Nexus has just as many problems yet I see comparison threads as if it were running glitch free when it is not.
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I agree with you. I'm coming from galaxy nexus, and based on my experience, HTC One X is far superior in terms of build quality and all.
Sure, htc one x has its own bugs, like any other phone, but I had more issues with my galaxy nexus. bugs that i couldnt stand like microphone cutting out in the middle of a call (and it happenned so often) and poor wifi reception. Not to mention the crappy camera with blurry images.
Now obviously these bugs are not for everyone, and its not something that you can notice in the first glance, but as you use them both for a period of time, you can definitely say which one is better.
So in summation, you're saying that regardless of all the build, audio, screen, lag, Sense restarts and charging issues we should all just keep quiet, discuss no issues and provide no feedback and let HTC think everything is fine and dandy?
Seriously?
It's people like you that are halting the evolution of the human race.
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So in summation, you're saying that regardless of all the build, audio, screen, lag, Sense restarts and charging issues we should all just keep quiet, discuss no issues and provide no feedback and let HTC think everything is fine and dandy?
Seriously?
It's people like you that are halting the evolution of the human race.
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You state that I am halting evolution, and you can't even comprehend what you are reading and then you misinterpret what you have read and suggest that I am halting evolution. Seems to me that you and your High IQ "not" is halting human evolution.....ass backwards thinking dare I say!
RIF...don't be an idiot I didn't suggest that at all. Stupid is as stupid does come on man. I said that I don't suggest nor have I suggested that you find bugs and feel happy about them and say nothing. I merely state that to find bugs and compare it to another buggy phone like the Galaxy Nexus is just plain stupid.....wtf RIF= Reading Is Fundamental lol just in case YOU miss what RIF means! I bet you are a rocket scientist aren't you
I am not the one crying you are the whiner here mister. Pocket Now gives this phone a good review with a point out of a few bugs. Go ahead talk about the bugs the phone has, but this thread is about finding bugs and comparing it to another buggy phone like the Galaxy Nexus.wtf
I am not, and have not suggested that if you have a bug feel happy say nothing. I am merely suggesting that the whiners comparing it to another buggy phone like the Galaxy Nexus to wake up. The Nexus still has bugs 5 months later. BTW Pocket Now called it the best Android device on the market today. Also there seems to be a 1.27 patch that a few reviewers had that seem not to have theses issues.
Now go ahead and quote where I suggest the things that you have written
I think I'll just leave you to it and I'll whine in another thread ;-)
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You state that I am halting evolution, and you can't even comprehend what you are reading and then you misinterpret what you have read and suggest that I am halting evolution. Seems to me that you and your High IQ "not" is halting human evolution.....ass backwards thinking dare I say!
RIF...don't be an idiot I didn't suggest that at all. Stupid is as stupid does come on man. I said that I don't suggest nor have I suggested that you find bugs and feel happy about them and say nothing. I merely state that to find bugs and compare it to another buggy phone like the Galaxy Nexus is just plain stupid.....wtf RIF= Reading Is Fundamental lol just in case YOU miss what RIF means! I bet you are a rocket scientist aren't you
I am not the one crying you are the whiner here mister. Pocket Now gives this phone a good review with a point out of a few bugs. Go ahead talk about the bugs the phone has, but this thread is about finding bugs and comparing it to another buggy phone like the Galaxy Nexus.wtf
I am not, and have not suggested that if you have a bug feel happy say nothing. I am merely suggesting that the whiners comparing it to another buggy phone like the Galaxy Nexus to wake up. The Nexus still has bugs 5 months later. BTW Pocket Now called it the best Android device on the market today. Also there seems to be a 1.27 patch that a few reviewers had that seem not to have theses issues.
Now go ahead and quote where I suggest the things that you have written
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I think you need to read your own OP again friend cause you saying two.different things here. People complaining about bugs is normal, we need to talk about those bugs so we can either help each other on the forum and fix it or let HTC know about them. Also people are comparing the One X to the nexus because the nexus is ARGUABLY the best android phone to compare it to ( shout out to the galaxy note). And nobody here said that the nexus is better than the one x, we said that there are things that the nexus does better than the one x like handling flash player for example. And I suggest you watch again the video review of pocket now when he says that a device like that with many cores SHOULDNT be lagging those are his words and I absolutely agree. He also said that the Galaxy S3 is on the way and it might blow the one x out of the water. Every things he said was spot on, it was unbiased that's the reason why I provided you with the link so you can see for yourself. YES THE ONE X IS CURRENTLY THE BEST ANDROID DEVICE ACCORDING TO ENGADGET, POCKETNOW, THE VERGE ECT... but is it worth upgrading from a nexus when.the Galaxy s 3 is right around the corner? I don't know about that we will see but we gonna keep pointing out the issues about this phone and any other phone as a matter of fact. This is the first quad core phone on the market so of course it will be scrutinized like this.
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I think you need to read your own OP again friend cause you saying two.different things here. People complaining about bugs is normal, we need to talk about those bugs so we can either help each other on the forum and fix it or let HTC know about them. Also people are comparing the One X to the nexus because the nexus is ARGUABLY the best android phone to compare it to ( shout out to the galaxy note). And nobody here said that the nexus is better than the one x, we said that there are things that the nexus does better than the one x like handling flash player for example. And I suggest you watch again the video review of pocket now when he says that a device like that with many cores SHOULDNT be lagging those are his words and I absolutely agree. He also said that the Galaxy S3 is on the way and it might blow the one x out of the water. Every things he said was spot on, it was unbiased that's the reason why I provided you with the link so you can see for yourself. YES THE ONE X IS CURRENTLY THE BEST ANDROID DEVICE ACCORDING TO ENGADGET, POCKETNOW, THE VERGE ECT... but is it worth upgrading from a nexus when.the Galaxy s 3 is right around the corner? I don't know about that we will see but we gonna keep pointing out the issues about this phone and any other phone as a matter of fact. This is the first quad core phone on the market so of course it will be scrutinized like this.
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No reason to reread what I posted my friend I stand by it. I am not trying to minimize the issus that this phone has. The many post in this forum suggest that the isssues are real and they exist. I don't suggest feeling happy about them and that no one should be posting about them like the person that I was anwering suggested either.
That said I also never said any one in this thread said anything aobut the GN. However I do mention that I have read post on this forum where people are comparing this to the Galaxy Nexus when infact the Galaxy Nexus has bugs just as well. This is all that I suggest and that I am merely pointing out OK! All phones when laucnhed seem to have bugs that are found by the masses when used more frequently on a daily basis. The Galaxy Nexus may be used as a bench mark, but remember it still has just as many bugs 5 months later is all I am referencing here with that statement. Android central has a One X vs GN and the GN gets blown away . Not all of these phones seem to have that issue which suggest a software glitch may be the problem. I saw a review where these issues were present but the reviewer got a 1.27 patch that eliminated them. http://m.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x-or-samsung-galaxy-nexus
I just feel that to get a phone on launch and complain about its problems and compare it to another phone with just as many problems is ridiculous, and if you read more out of what I am saying it is what it is period. Again I am not trying to minimize the issues or suggest that people should be happy with them nor have I insinuated this!
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No reason to reread what I posted my friend I stand by it. I am not trying to minimize the issus that this phone has. The many post in this forum suggest that the isssues are real and they exist. I don't suggest feeling happy about them and that no one should be posting about them like the person that I was anwering suggested either.
That said I also never said any one in this thread said anything aobut the GN. However I do mention that I have read post on this forum where people are comparing this to the Galaxy Nexus when infact the Galaxy Nexus has bugs just as well. This is all that I suggest and that I am merely pointing out OK! All phones when laucnhed seem to have bugs that are found by the masses when used more frequently on a daily basis. The Galaxy Nexus may be used as a bench mark, but remember it still has just as many bugs 5 months later is all I am referencing here with that statement. Android central has a One X vs GN and the GN blows it away . Not all of these phones seem to have that issue which suggest a software glitch may be the problem. I saw a review where these issues were present but the reviewer got a 1.27 patch that eliminated them. http://m.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x-or-samsung-galaxy-nexus
I just feel that to get a phone on launch and complain about its problems and compare it to another phone with just as many problems is ridiculous, and if you read more out of what I am saying it is what it is period. Again I am not trying to minimize the issues or suggest that people should be happy with them nor have I insinuated this!
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I hear what you're saying in your last paragraph, but again this is the first phone on the market to be quad core so it will be scrutinized. That's just how people think quad core phone = shouldn't lag. Small bugs here and there are one thing cause it's easily fixed with software updates or ROMs and kernels. But lag on a quad core device doesn't look too good that's the point I'm trying to make. And again it is the first quad core phone. This year I was hesitant on buying the one X cause last year I purchased the sensation and what a piece of crap it was at launch. ( remember all the rumors about the pyramid first HTC dual core phone blah blah blah) and it was a disappointment in my opinion. With time it became better with ROMs and stuff but still. Now the one x launches with all thes bugs. Same thing again. Next year when HTC release their new flagship people will remember that the one x launched with lots of bugs so they might not buy the new one. See what I'm saying?
I haven't read through this thread because I am at work... But for one... I have having trouble adding my apple email account... And it appears that maps is always in the recent apps list even when I haven't opened it... Is it GPS that's doing it?
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I hear what you're saying in your last paragraph, but again this is the first phone on the market to be quad core so it will be scrutinized. That's just how people think quad core phone = shouldn't lag. Small bugs here and there are one thing cause it's easily fixed with software updates or ROMs and kernels. But lag on a quad core device doesn't look too good that's the point I'm trying to make. And again it is the first quad core phone. This year I was hesitant on buying the one X cause last year I purchased the sensation and what a piece of crap it was at launch. ( remember all the rumors about the pyramid first HTC dual core phone blah blah blah) and it was a disappointment in my opinion. With time it became better with ROMs and stuff but still. Now the one x launches with all thes bugs. Same thing again. Next year when HTC release their new flagship people will remember that the one x launched with lots of bugs so they might not buy the new one. See what I'm saying?
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I agree with the statement about lag issues and all, and yes a quad core should not lag, but remember the software is more than likely the issue. Some phone's have the problem and some that were reviewed that did received 1.27 patch the problems disappeared, and increased battery life.
In spite of the lag Pocket Now still said that its the best Android phone to date. This I think may be attributed to the thinking that the issues are software related and may be resolved with a DEV rom or a patch. Again I am not trying to minimize any issues that are reported.
vsnlweb said:
I haven't read through this thread because I am at work... But for one... I have having trouble adding my apple email account... And it appears that maps is always in the recent apps list even when I haven't opened it... Is it GPS that's doing it?
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Hello!.
Not sure on your Apple email address.
The maps thing, it did this to me for a day or two. I thought I was accidentally pressing maps all the time with out realising. Then one day it suddenly stopped happening. I presume that it was downloading some maps files it needed or something, not sure.
Bugs with my One X are as follows (T-Mobile , Branded..... , 1.26.110.5)
Flash player pretty much unuseable - embedded videos in websites laggy, slow, crash browser and htc sense, but phone does come back.
Flash player full screen (not embedded, the open in new window type) also very laggy and crashes browser and HTC sense eventually.
Also tried some low resources flash games, and some flash fruit machines. These also crash.
Apart from that mine seems to be ok, apart from the horrid T-Mobile boot logo and the horrid internet icon they use
What a pointless thread, can't believe somebody opened a thread just to argue, and badly at that ! ?
Somebody please close this thread !
I tend to gather real world evidence over a period of time by actually using the device, rather than read countless posts about bugs.
I've had 4 Sense devices and all of them lagged and the One X is no different. However, only on exiting of apps in my case.
It's simply thee best device i've ever owned and apart from the occasional flicker of the screen and it being huge, i cannot fault it compared to other phones i've used.
I'm still, however, envious of the slickness of iOS and that's all end users care about. It's how smooth the experience is. Having a Quad core marketing strategy counts for nothing in my eyes, if the UI stutters it's game over.
On the flipside, apparently an update has solved a few laggy issues, but again until i see it myself, i won't believe it.
pickup9785 said:
What a pointless thread, can't believe somebody opened a thread just to argue, and badly at that ! ?
Somebody please close this thread !
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I see where you are coming from, but this thread has now moved away from that argument I hope , onto a decent discussion.
I can't believe your first post was to ask for somebody elses thread to be closed!
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If anybody else on T-Mobile can confirm flash player issues it will help me a lot. Not sure if I need a replacement handset
deanfarnaby said:
If anybody else on T-Mobile can confirm flash player issues it will help me a lot. Not sure if I need a replacement handset
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Factory reset fixed Flash plater crashing browser and sense
Settings > Storage > Factory Reset Data
No need to wipe external storage
I have a "fixed" Note 7 and I understand I have to turn it in but I want to wait as long as I can. I know I seen on here a way to block OTA updates. Something about freezing system apps? I wan't to block any battery crippling updates Samsung puts out. I just want to wait to see if I can make it till S8 comes out.
It isn't fixed. Just send it back. Seriously.
Disabling these bottom four will end future updates.
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Disabling these bottom four will end future updates.
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Four? Or all 7?
projectrs2 said:
Four? Or all 7?
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You can do all seven but the bottom for is the main one you want to disable.
I am on Verizon and do not have some of the ones that you are showing that are checked in Package Disabler Pro. Anyone on Verizon have these to disable future updates?
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It isn't fixed. Just send it back. Seriously.
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That's why I put fixed in quotation marks
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This is what I disabled. Am I good to go?
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That's why I put fixed in quotation marks
This is what I disabled. Am I good to go?
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Yes no more updates ever...
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I had all of those disabled at AT&T and many more (lessons learned from from the note 5) . Guess what, they pushed the update anyway in the middle of the night with no prompt that will let me cancel.
also install a firewall just in case.
its far fetched to think samy could have their system apps pass on/tunnel your personal data via other innocent apps (im definitely sure google is doing it to ensure they gather as much data from us as possible). if I'm wrong, at least a firewall saves you on wireless 4g data charges
This is the only thing we can do if we want to keep the phone, if it goes through then it will force the keepers to switch if it doesn't we'll see how long we can last without updated/support.
borisb said:
I had all of those disabled at AT&T and many more (lessons learned from from the note 5) . Guess what, they pushed the update anyway in the middle of the night with no prompt that will let me cancel.
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are you sure you disabled all update packages? damn that's scary to realised you don't actually own the phone you bought, your just leasing a product with the illusion of full control...
sonhy said:
are you sure you disabled all update packages? damn that's scary to realised you don't actually own the phone you bought, your just leasing a product with the illusion of full control...
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Yes I did. Had the note 5 remember?
It was crazy scary, especially when the phone turned blue and AT&T logo popped out without a warning.
It was doing something for nearly 10-20 minutes with a bar on the bottom of the screen (so I knew it was doing something).
it was in recovery mode and did not have the running android logo (like updates usually do).
I was worried to turn it off cause I did not want my phone to be bricked. When it turned back on I got the message that I must return the phone (and it kept of popping every time I charged it).
So, I am 100% positive that AT&T, and Samsung can do what they want.
Also, yesterday before I returned the phone my line got suspended. But my line is a corporate line so the company just decided to force me to return it.
damn, that's dodgy.
Ridiculous people are doing this, why not turn the damn thing in seriously? Its not going to be supported by samsung or 3rd party developers.
Samsung will almost certainly release something just as good hardware wise if not better in the future.
I just can't figure out why some of you are so insistent on keeping an unsupported and dangerous phone.
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Ridiculous people are doing this, why not turn the damn thing in seriously? Its not going to be supported by samsung or 3rd party developers.
Samsung will almost certainly release something just as good hardware wise if not better in the future.
I just can't figure out why some of you are so insistent on keeping an unsupported and dangerous phone.
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Here, ill give you my reason. I go upgrade to the s7 edge tonight. Now, when the new note or whatever it is with the stylus comes out, I cant upgrade yet. Whereas if I still had/have this, then I could with the note even year deal or whatever its called with Verizon. I guarantee im not the only one in this boat.
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It isn't fixed. Just send it back. Seriously.
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Yet another policeman. How the **** do you know if there's anything wrong with his or not. This is getting REALLY tedious.
FWIW, having wiped my Note 7 and boxed it up, I've changed my mind. I am keeping it for a month or two to see what pans out, news of S8 availability, take a look at the Pixel etc.
There's no rush to get them swapped and I not could give a pico-sh1t about the "explosion" risk. Seriously when ZERO have had any issues in the UK. None, nil, nada. Why would anyone be so concerned. Sure there may be a small risk but let's keep this in perspective, please.
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Ridiculous people are doing this, why not turn the damn thing in seriously? Its not going to be supported by samsung or 3rd party developers.
Samsung will almost certainly release something just as good hardware wise if not better in the future.
I just can't figure out why some of you are so insistent on keeping an unsupported and dangerous phone.
Sent from my LG-H901 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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And I can't figure out why people like you are so insistent on ramming your opinions down others' throats.
I will change mine in a month or two once theirs more alternative devices either available or announced. What's YOUR problem with what I do with MY phone?
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Yet another policeman. How the **** do you know if there's anything wrong with his or not. This is getting REALLY tedious.
FWIW, having wiped my Note 7 and boxed it up, I've changed my mind. I am keeping it for a month or two to see what pans out, news of S8 availability, take a look at the Pixel etc.
There's no rush to get them swapped and I not could give a pico-sh1t about the "explosion" risk.
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No not at all, just not a complete moron who thinks he knows better than the multi billion dollar company (with people way way smarter than any of us) who would have done anything in their power to make sure that this didn't happen. You think they would have stopped production for something that's easily fixed? Come on, use your brain!
How do I know if there's anything wrong with his or not? I don't - nobody does - that's the problem... duh? No one can surely say that it will or won't blow up at any time, and you've got hundreds of these idiots going 'hmm, i know better than samsung, mines cool for now, therefore its always gonna be fine'
And thereby not only putting their own selfish ass at risk, but other people who they might be around at that time, god forbid it did explode/set on fire.
It's ridiculous. This whole thing should never have happened, but people insisting on keeping something that is known to randomly (until they can reproduce it, unless they already have and aren't disclosing it) set on fire, and that is just complete stupidity, and nothing else.
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No not at all, just not a complete moron who thinks he knows better than the multi billion dollar company (with people way way smarter than any of us) who would have done anything in their power to make sure that this didn't happen. You think they would have stopped production for something that's easily fixed? Come on, use your brain!
How do I know if there's anything wrong with his or not? I don't - nobody does - that's the problem... duh? No one can surely say that it will or won't blow up at any time, and you've got hundreds of these idiots going 'hmm, i know better than samsung, mines cool for now, therefore its always gonna be fine'
And thereby not only putting their own selfish ass at risk, but other people who they might be around at that time, god forbid it did explode/set on fire.
It's ridiculous. This whole thing should never have happened, but people insisting on keeping something that is known to randomly (until they can reproduce it, unless they already have and aren't disclosing it) set on fire, and that is just complete stupidity, and nothing else.
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Yawn. It was a no brainer for Samsung to discontinue it. They could be 100% confident they would have many more fires and other issues.
Any single user can be 99.99% confident they will not.
If you don't get that, I suggest you have a quick read up on probabilities 101.
@Chippy_boy dont waste your energy man, there will always be people who are just upset in general... they start the fire the moment they hear someone scream witch just continue to help like minded others and ignore their verbal traps, it'll eat them up inside every time they come back here... otherwise they wouldn't come back to troll about a phone they don't have
The first day I got the phone, it was so smooth that I couldn't believe it. Now after one month's usage it feels less smooth. I notice stutter here and there, while scrolling through WhatsApp list, while entering and exiting apps etc. Is this because the performance is degrading or am I just getting used with it and my mind demands more?
In any case, will a custom ROM like PureNexus be any better in terms of this? I'm on ElX kernel.
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The first day I got the phone, it was so smooth that I couldn't believe it. Now after one month's usage it feels less smooth. I notice stutter here and there, while scrolling through WhatsApp list, while entering and exiting apps etc. Is this because the performance is degrading or am I just getting used with it and my mind demands more?
In any case, will a custom ROM like PureNexus be any better in terms of this? I'm on ElX kernel.
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Nah, it will be the same. Allot of it is just the app not being smooth, not the OS. Over time the cache builds and things just stutter some. The device is still a beast
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Hard to say for sure, but for the most part I feel like its just as smooth as day one. In fact, I was thinking recently how impressed I was that I hadn't reboot my phone for 3 weeks and its been rock solid stable and buttery smooth the whole time. I'm on full stock, rooted with TWRP.
ithehappy said:
The first day I got the phone, it was so smooth that I couldn't believe it. Now after one month's usage it feels less smooth. I notice stutter here and there, while scrolling through WhatsApp list, while entering and exiting apps etc. Is this because the performance is degrading or am I just getting used with it and my mind demands more?
In any case, will a custom ROM like PureNexus be any better in terms of this? I'm on ElX kernel.
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I haven't noticed any speed degradation - had XL over a month now.
It's still a piece of ****, but it's still fast.
I cannot believe you people orgasming over this garbage phone.
I'm only keeping it because FI is so cheap for low data usage.
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I haven't noticed any speed degradation - had XL over a month now.
It's still a piece of ****, but it's still fast.
I cannot believe you people orgasming over this garbage phone.
I'm only keeping it because FI is so cheap for low data usage.
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Why's it garbage
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Smallsmx3 said:
Why's it garbage
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My previous phone was a Note 7. My standards are a bit high... If you are not familiar with Note 7, it's like trading in a Bugatti Veyron for a Mustang (and yes, I own a Stang.)
nabbed said:
I haven't noticed any speed degradation - had XL over a month now.
It's still a piece of ****, but it's still fast.
I cannot believe you people orgasming over this garbage phone.
I'm only keeping it because FI is so cheap for low data usage.
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Not to get too OT but I gotta step in and say something. What are you doing here on XDA? Every time I go into a thread I'm bound to see a post from you just ****ting all over this phone. Your comments are unconstructive and extremely off-putting. Some posters here have had their phone for a month or so, maybe less. If you went out a bought a new Mustang and someone came up to you and said "That car is a piece of ****, I can't beleive you like that thing." you'd feel pretty bad right? Or at least ticked off. I get that you miss your Note 7, I really do. Hang in there and you'll get your Note 8 soon enough.
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Back on topic, the phone is still smooth as hell for me. It'll trip on a few things here and there but it's really so minor and occurs so rarely that when I catch it I question if it actually even happened. If that makes sense.. I think when we start to see optimized ROMs and Kernel devs begin merging in cherry-picked updates to Sched and upstream updates, things will get near flawless with this phone. The one thing that concerns me is the lack of F2FS. The storage speed on this phone is pretty lacking, as discussed in my thread discussing why the OP3T with similar hardware is so much faster than this phone. F2FS is much easier on the phone's storage whereas EXT4 will eventually lead to performance degradation over time. Again, I feel that Kernels will rectify this in the future.
Another facet of this might just be that you're used to the speed by now. I'm sometimes still amazed by how much faster this phone is at certain tasks than my Nexus 5X, but when I first got this phone I was in awe nearly all the time when using it. Now it just seems normal to me.
I am coming from using an S7 (which has the same ram and processor as the Note 7) and this Pixel is MUCH faster than my S7 was.
I myself had the Note 7 and this phone puts the Note 7 to shame in a speed comparison. My note 7 lagged like no other. Maybe mine was a defective one but my Pixel XL is blazing fast even after about 2 months of usage. ?
Alcolawl said:
Not to get too OT but I gotta step in and say something. What are you doing here on XDA? Every time I go into a thread I'm bound to see a post from you just ****ting all over this phone. Your comments are unconstructive and extremely off-putting. Some posters here have had their phone for a month or so, maybe less. If you went out a bought a new Mustang and someone came up to you and said "That car is a piece of ****, I can't beleive you like that thing." you'd feel pretty bad right? Or at least ticked off. I get that you miss your Note 7, I really do. Hang in there and you'll get your Note 8 soon enough.
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Thank you for saying this!
nabbed said:
I haven't noticed any speed degradation - had XL over a month now.
It's still a piece of ****, but it's still fast.
I cannot believe you people orgasming over this garbage phone.
I'm only keeping it because FI is so cheap for low data usage.
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If you don't like the phone, why are you even on XDA? Just use the phone until you can get rid of it and keep your crappy opinion to yourself. These threads aren't meant for discussing how bad it is. The idea is that we all work constructively with the hopes of achieving the best possible user experience for everyone
nabbed said:
My previous phone was a Note 7. My standards are a bit high... If you are not familiar with Note 7, it's like trading in a Bugatti Veyron for a Mustang (and yes, I own a Stang.)
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No thanks on the Samjunk. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Funny how non garbage it was considering the outcome of exploding phones, only to end up EOLd in a landfill
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Alcolawl said:
Back on topic, the phone is still smooth as hell for me. It'll trip on a few things here and there but it's really so minor and occurs so rarely that when I catch it I question if it actually even happened. If that makes sense.. I think when we start to see optimized ROMs and Kernel devs begin merging in cherry-picked updates to Sched and upstream updates, things will get near flawless with this phone.
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I am so hopeful for this too man.
Alcolawl said:
Another facet of this might just be that you're used to the speed by now. I'm sometimes still amazed by how much faster this phone is at certain tasks than my Nexus 5X, but when I first got this phone I was in awe nearly all the time when using it. Now it just seems normal to me.
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Yes, I mentioned that in OP for that reason only. I am sure that my mind is getting used with the smoothness and it demands more, much more :laugh:
Just got to give the devs time. Perfection takes time.
I personally moved away from Samsung a while back. Last sammy device i had was the Note 4.
I still have an S3 mini which in all reality is a "piece of garbage"but all i use it for is a glorified MP3 player while im out doing work and i dont wish to possibly destroy my PixelXL or whatever im using.
But back on track. Samsungs devices least back in the day were very well built! And aside from Touchwiz not to terrible!
But this Pixel XL blows me away. I came to this device from a Nexus 6 which I absolutely loved! The Pixel XL has surprised me since day 1! Im currently running Pure Nexus on it. Its the initial build as the second build wasnt important enough for me to update. Dont mind that i cant shut down. (LOL)
I reboot my device a couple times a week as a pure habit. I feel a fresh start every so often is never a bad thing.
One thing to possibly try if an app becomes sluggish is clear the apps cache while you see it being a bit of a jerk.
If that doesnt help. Clear the system cache in recovery and see if that helps. Your first boot might take a bit longer but you could see a difference.
My suggestion to you is. Try out Pure Nexus. Or any custom rom for that matter! There are several now. We have 2 boot slots to use on this device which is fantastic! If you dont like a certain rom? Try another! Or.... go back to your stock slot! Just read up and educate yourself on how the boot slots work and what happens during flashing. Its not like our old school Safe Strap from back in the day! (Or multiROM for that matter) Well kinda.... but works differently.
Enjoy Pixelers!
Alcolawl said:
Not to get too OT but I gotta step in and say something. What are you doing here on XDA? Every time I go into a thread I'm bound to see a post from you just ****ting all over this phone. Your comments are unconstructive and extremely off-putting. Some posters here have had their phone for a month or so, maybe less. If you went out a bought a new Mustang and someone came up to you and said "That car is a piece of ****, I can't beleive you like that thing." you'd feel pretty bad right? Or at least ticked off. I get that you miss your Note 7, I really do. Hang in there and you'll get your Note 8 soon enough.
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I'm venting here because I'm searching for a way to fix my brand new beautiful Mustang - you see, one tire is constantly losing pressure and the trunk just straight up doesn't close.
In other words, I'm extremely frustrated with my brand new $930 device. And the fact that Google just released a 50MB security update and still didn't fix a crippling BT bug introduced in 7.1.1 doesn't help the issue.
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I'm venting here because I'm searching for a way to fix my brand new beautiful Mustang - you see, one tire is constantly losing pressure and the trunk just straight up doesn't close.
In other words, I'm extremely frustrated with my brand new $930 device. And the fact that Google just released a 50MB security update and still didn't fix a crippling BT bug introduced in 7.1.1 doesn't help the issue.
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At least you can count on your Pixel XL not exploding .
Alcolawl said:
Not to get too OT but I gotta step in and say something. What are you doing here on XDA? Every time I go into a thread I'm bound to see a post from you just ****ting all over this phone. Your comments are unconstructive and extremely off-putting. Some posters here have had their phone for a month or so, maybe less. If you went out a bought a new Mustang and someone came up to you and said "That car is a piece of ****, I can't beleive you like that thing." you'd feel pretty bad right? Or at least ticked off. I get that you miss your Note 7, I really do. Hang in there and you'll get your Note 8 soon enough.
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Back on topic, the phone is still smooth as hell for me. It'll trip on a few things here and there but it's really so minor and occurs so rarely that when I catch it I question if it actually even happened. If that makes sense.. I think when we start to see optimized ROMs and Kernel devs begin merging in cherry-picked updates to Sched and upstream updates, things will get near flawless with this phone. The one thing that concerns me is the lack of F2FS. The storage speed on this phone is pretty lacking, as discussed in my thread discussing why the OP3T with similar hardware is so much faster than this phone. F2FS is much easier on the phone's storage whereas EXT4 will eventually lead to performance degradation over time. Again, I feel that Kernels will rectify this in the future.
Another facet of this might just be that you're used to the speed by now. I'm sometimes still amazed by how much faster this phone is at certain tasks than my Nexus 5X, but when I first got this phone I was in awe nearly all the time when using it. Now it just seems normal to me.
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If I remember correctly from Mario's front page article on the OP3T, F2FS can be enabled through TWRP. I recall tidy one reason it's not enabled by default on most devices is some remaining bugs/issues to sort out.
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I'm venting here because I'm searching for a way to fix my brand new beautiful Mustang - you see, one tire is constantly losing pressure and the trunk just straight up doesn't close.
In other words, I'm extremely frustrated with my brand new $930 device. And the fact that Google just released a 50MB security update and still didn't fix a crippling BT bug introduced in 7.1.1 doesn't help the issue.
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Not to go further OT, but what are your main gripes with the Pixel?
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In other words, I'm extremely frustrated with my brand new $930 device. And the fact that Google just released a 50MB security update and still didn't fix a crippling BT bug introduced in 7.1.1 doesn't help the issue.
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Took me a while to find it but Jerry Hildenbrand had some interesting thoughts on bluetooth issues with Nougat and how they're potentially related to bluetooth stack and certain hardware that people are trying to pair their Android N phones to. Look for his posts in this thread:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl/755478-there-speaker-issue.html
I don't know whether he's on the mark here or not. . All I do know is that I have no issues with connectivity with my car, Fossil Q Marshal or JBL Charge 2+ . . all relatively new devices . . so i do wonder how some are experiencing issues while others like myself are not.
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Back on topic - IMO loss in smoothness always boils down to resources as users settle into devices and continue to add software and tweaks to their devices. The more we use the device and add to it, the more apps start to battle for resources either in terms of running services or cached ones. The variation in now we each use our devices leads to variation in experiences as the OS deals with balancing available resources against the services and apps that need to be running vs cached.
muzzy996 said:
Took me a while to find it but Jerry Hildenbrand had some interesting thoughts on bluetooth issues with Nougat and how they're potentially related to bluetooth stack and certain hardware that people are trying to pair their Android N phones to. Look for his posts in this thread:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-pixel-xl/755478-there-speaker-issue.html
I don't know whether he's on the mark here or not. . All I do know is that I have no issues with connectivity with my car, Fossil Q Marshal or JBL Charge 2+ . . all relatively new devices . . so i do wonder how some are experiencing issues while others like myself are not.
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Back on topic - IMO loss in smoothness always boils down to resources as users settle into devices and continue to add software and tweaks to their devices. The more we use the device and add to it, the more apps start to battle for resources either in terms of running services or cached ones. The variation in now we each use our devices leads to variation in experiences as the OS deals with balancing available resources against the services and apps that need to be running vs cached.
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Jerry Hildenbrand? That weird beard mofo? How can he possibly fix a bt bug that was introduced in a recent Google update?
First just don't feed the trolls.
I would definitely recommend a custom rom.
The one that said customs are the same than stock just flashed the wrong roms.
Pure is much smoother and snappier than stock.
And there are roms that feels like night and day if it comes to smoothness.
So just try them out and you will see and feel the difference.
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First just don't feed the trolls.
I would definitely recommend a custom rom.
The one that said customs are the same than stock just flashed the wrong roms.
Pure is much smoother and snappier than stock.
And there are roms that feels like night and day if it comes to smoothness.
So just try them out and you will see and feel the difference.
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This has how I started to deal with trolls but I'm to the point where I just read their post and see how it's going to end anyways and don't even waste my time even thinking of replying.
https://goo.gl/photos/85kFQemYv9jtionR7
I feel so stupid for buying this phone only for it to perform worse than phones 2-3 generations older in Browser Benchmarks, this reminds me of the Snapdragon 801 era that was also filled with overheating and performance issues, the phone is utter trash and if you are looking to buy the phone, PLEASE STAY AWAY. Get any other phone in the same range it will literally be better than this.
OnePlus must be sued just like how NVIDIA was sued for GTX 970. I will never buy a OnePlus again.
Return it. best of luck.
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I feel so stupid for buying this phone only for it to perform worse than phones 2-3 generations older in Browser Benchmarks, this reminds me of the Snapdragon 801 era that was also filled with overheating and performance issues, the phone is utter trash and if you are looking to buy the phone, PLEASE STAY AWAY. Get any other phone in the same range it will literally be better than this.
OnePlus must be sued just like how NVIDIA was sued for GTX 970. I will never buy a OnePlus again.
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how long did you manage to use oneplus 9 pro?
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Return it. best of luck.
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amazon does not usually allow refunds, they only provide replacements
I have been using it for 24 hours now, why is the touch response so DAMN LAGGY at 120 FPS and HYPER TOUCH ENABLED?!? I compared it with Oppo Find X2 Pro with the exact same Resolution and FPS and Oppo is butter smooth and this damn thing crawls like a village drunk when opening Accubattery from the status BAR.
OnePlus will never be successful in US after this. They just lied and I was dumb and believed them.
goodburner said:
amazon does not usually allow refunds, they only provide replacements
I have been using it for 24 hours now, why is the touch response so DAMN LAGGY at 120 FPS and HYPER TOUCH ENABLED?!? I compared it with Oppo Find X2 Pro with the exact same Resolution and FPS and Oppo is butter smooth and this damn thing crawls like a village drunk.
OnePlus will never be successful in US after this. They just lied and I was dumb and believed them.
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Incorrect. Check again. I'm pretty sure you can return it.
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I feel so stupid for buying this phone only for it to perform worse than phones 2-3 generations older in Browser Benchmarks, this reminds me of the Snapdragon 801 era that was also filled with overheating and performance issues, the phone is utter trash and if you are looking to buy the phone, PLEASE STAY AWAY. Get any other phone in the same range it will literally be better than this.
OnePlus must be sued just like how NVIDIA was sued for GTX 970. I will never buy a OnePlus again.
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I have it for about 3 weeks now and I didn't notice any slowdowns in browsing web on Chrome. I don't know why do you care about benchmark results ? If they drop performance to level where you can save some battery but you didn't feel slower, for me it's very good decision and this is called optimisation.
The only thing is that they should inform us about it.
People all complain about benchmarking! You buy a phone to use it! not to benchmark it! Jeeez
PKkeys said:
People all complain about benchmarking! You buy a phone to use it! not to benchmark it! Jeeez
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You have three types of people those who buy a phone to use, those who buy to benchmark and the numbers mean life or death. And those who just like to complain on some forums online .
Obvious troll is obvious
I haven't noticed any lag or stuttering. Been using the phone for about a month now. Very smooth and no obvious throttling even though I'm sure it's occurring.
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I feel so stupid for buying this phone only for it to perform worse than phones 2-3 generations older in Browser Benchmarks, this reminds me of the Snapdragon 801 era that was also filled with overheating and performance issues, the phone is utter trash and if you are looking to buy the phone, PLEASE STAY AWAY. Get any other phone in the same range it will literally be better than this.
OnePlus must be sued just like how NVIDIA was sued for GTX 970. I will never buy a OnePlus again.
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amazon does not usually allow refunds, they only provide replacements
I have been using it for 24 hours now, why is the touch response so DAMN LAGGY at 120 FPS and HYPER TOUCH ENABLED?!? I compared it with Oppo Find X2 Pro with the exact same Resolution and FPS and Oppo is butter smooth and this damn thing crawls like a village drunk when opening Accubattery from the status BAR.
OnePlus will never be successful in US after this. They just lied and I was dumb and believed them.
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My God. You use a phone 24 hours and then go complaining about it like this? Calm down mate! You want to immediately sue them, geez. "Utter trash", haha. Not one professional review is this negative - why could that be? And then your title: Like everyone is this extermely negative "The most disappointing phone that currently exists". You could add "of the universe" for extra drama, you know. Get a grip.
Only thing I know of is some battery issues, that could well be resolved with updates. I have no issues at all (besides that battery life is a little dissapointing): one of the smootest experiences ever - not kidding.
Ask yourself the questions: Why am I litteraly the only one complaining in this magnitude? Could it be me?
Could it be that it's just a faulty phone? It happens you know.
Are you on the latest firmware?
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My God. You use a phone 24 hours and then go complaining about it like this? Calm down mate! You want to immediately sue them, geez. "Utter trash", haha. Not one professional review is this negative - why could that be? And then your title: Like everyone is this extermely negative "The most disappointing phone that currently exists". You could add "of the universe" for extra drama, you know. Get a grip.
Only thing I know of is some battery issues, that could well be resolved with updates. I have no issues at all (besides that battery life is a little dissapointing): one of the smootest experiences ever - not kidding.
Ask yourself the questions: Why am I litteraly the only one complaining in this magnitude? Could it be me?
Could it be that it's just a faulty phone? It happens you know.
Are you on the latest firmware?
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Well said.
Same experience here.
flushell said:
My God. You use a phone 24 hours and then go complaining about it like this? Calm down mate! You want to immediately sue them, geez. "Utter trash", haha. Not one professional review is this negative - why could that be? And then your title: Like everyone is this extermely negative "The most disappointing phone that currently exists". You could add "of the universe" for extra drama, you know. Get a grip.
Only thing I know of is some battery issues, that could well be resolved with updates. I have no issues at all (besides that battery life is a little dissapointing): one of the smootest experiences ever - not kidding.
Ask yourself the questions: Why am I litteraly the only one complaining in this magnitude? Could it be me?
Could it be that it's just a faulty phone? It happens you know.
Are you on the latest firmware?
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No trolling here bro. So please don't mistake this for one, but this reply. Just the best. You're my forum hero!
I've been a huge fan of the Pixel since the original XL. Dealing with this phone from day one has been a struggle. The voice dictation is terrible. The worst I've ever had on a pixel. Also the phone is my daily driver and sometimes I can't even work with this phone. Really holding out for an update to fix the phone so that I can love it, but I think I'm more patient than most. I feel like replying with a real world experience to every made by Google tweet, but I'm not out to jeopardize their business and I understand new tech takes a little while to achieve its full potential. But there needs to be some heads rolling at Google. There's been issues with every Google Pixel launch and this I think is the worst from my experience. I'm glad some others aren't experiencing what I'm going through. Lucky dogs
MKBHD Slams Google Pixel 6 Pro's "Bad Experience"
YouTuber MKBHD tweets that he's done with the Pixel 6 Pro and will no longer recommend it to his viewers. That's not great for Google.
www.droid-life.com
Mine hasn't been buggy but it's good his statement made headlines. Maybe Google will get off their azz and fix these problems.
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I've been a huge fan of the Pixel since the original XL. Dealing with this phone from day one has been a struggle. The voice dictation is terrible. The worst I've ever had on a pixel. Also the phone is my daily driver and sometimes I can't even work with this phone. Really holding out for an update to fix the phone so that I can love it, but I think I'm more patient than most. I feel like replying with a real world experience to every made by Google tweet, but I'm not out to jeopardize their business and I understand new tech takes a little while to achieve its full potential. But there needs to be some heads rolling at Google. There's been issues with every Google Pixel launch and this I think is the worst from my experience. I'm glad some others aren't experiencing what I'm going through. Lucky dogs
MKBHD Slams Google Pixel 6 Pro's "Bad Experience"
YouTuber MKBHD tweets that he's done with the Pixel 6 Pro and will no longer recommend it to his viewers. That's not great for Google.
www.droid-life.com
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I'm one of those lucky dogs, I guess
Side note: I don't pay much mind to reviewers such as MKBHD...I like to judge things for myself
I'll say the same thing I said in another thread...
The Pixel 6 is a new platform on new hardware. There are going to be teething issues. Expecting perfection isn't realistic. Google has been using Snapdragon SoC's since the Nexus 4, and this is their first foray using their own hardware. When Apple introduced the A7 in the iPhone 5S, they had the same problem - a lot of stability and feature issues.
Remember that OEMs have to make compromises in order to get everything they want into a reasonable package. Bigger battery means less space for the electronics, and heat becomes a bigger problem. Bigger display and more powerful processor means more battery drain. With handheld devices, weight and size are significant issues as well.
If you want stability, there are other OEMs to choose from that are sticking to established hardware - such as Samsung, using both Qualcomm and their own Exynos systems. The Pixel series has been pretty solid up to this point, so while the 6 and 6 Pro have certainly had a lot of issues, the next generation will be improved, as will the next after that, and so on.
When you buy a Pixel, it's for vanilla Android with the Google experience. Don't expect much more than that.
why do people care what he thinks
i not had that many issues and I am on the December firmware.
battery life is main issue for me but as its a new SOC and needs time to tune it along with new A12 I expected this
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why do people care what he thinks
i not had that many issues and I am on the December firmware.
battery life is main issue for me but as its a new SOC and needs time to tune it along with new A12 I expected this
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Probably the same reason stupid challenges trend on social media?
jayr04 said:
Mine hasn't been buggy but it's good his statement made headlines. Maybe Google will get off their azz and fix these problems.
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man, i really wish my experience was like yours. i bought into Google's P6 hype for sure... i purchased the phone for dual-sim connectivity so i could use one device for my personal and biz numbers. i started with an AT&T version, returned it due to connectivity issues, and purchased an unlocked version that "seemed" to work a little better. however, inconsistent connectivity (no cellular signal, dropped calls, dropped wifi) forced me to put the phone away for now, and switch to a dual-sim S21 Ultra. i'm willing to give Google a chance to address the connectivity issues, but my confidence in their ability to do so is pretty low right now.
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I'm one of those lucky dogs, I guess
Side note: I don't pay much mind to reviewers such as MKBHD...I like to judge things for myself
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Who? Twitter? I never go there, same as FB, Instagram etc.
Purveyors of disinformation and censorship, at the best.
Really this is Google's doing and not singularly the P6 Pro itself; Android 12 is a huge part of the problem. Android 11 was no gem either.
Following Apple's lead like a lost puppy was one of their biggest mistakes. Google Android degrades their market edge by doing so and ultimately fails their customers.
A large part of Google's problem is that they are also control freaks. They want to push their cloud services at all costs even if it conflicts with the customer's best interests. They learned that from MS.
Who needs another bloody iPhone knock off?
Nekromantik said:
why do people care what he thinks
i not had that many issues and I am on the December firmware.
battery life is main issue for me but as its a new SOC and needs time to tune it along with new A12 I expected this
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I don't even know who that is, nor do I really care. However, and this is a big but, if he has a following of thousands of users who buy phones for multiple family members and go on social media platforms then it becomes a problem. Not here because it seems no one is on social media round these parts, but this is the extreme minority. So call it where it belongs, the phone is buggy.. big time. I'm not talking about battery life either, I'm talking about not being able to make a phone call or receive a text. That is major. If I want stability I go with one of the big guns, Apple or Google. Pure iPhone experience and pure Android experience. There is nothing pure about this Pixel 6 series. OEMs compromising and releasing a device that is obviously flawed is not a great model for success. I don't want a Samsung or an iPhone. I want a Pixel. There is absolutely no reason I should put up with a test device when they touted this as the phone of the year. Next generation doesn't interest me right about now. I want a phone with security updates that are current and a device that always can receive a phone call and text. It is not the Pixel 6 no matter how many excuses you can come up with.
If this was a test device at least tell me that. If they are working out problems fitting stuff in then let me know. I easily could have kept my pristine P5 but I was led to believe this was a finished product and, I repeat, the phone of the year. the iPhone killer the every other phone killer. Well the P6 just got killed by their own hands and if you can't admit it then nothing I can say will change your mind.
I got a P6 Pro at launch and I haven't had any major issues or bugs. I'm on Dec update and I think I experienced the network drop thing only twice. I restarted my phone and everything was back to normal.
No other issues though..
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man, i really wish my experience was like yours. i bought into Google's P6 hype for sure... i purchased the phone for dual-sim connectivity so i could use one device for my personal and biz numbers. i started with an AT&T version, returned it due to connectivity issues, and purchased an unlocked version that "seemed" to work a little better. however, inconsistent connectivity (no cellular signal, dropped calls, dropped wifi) forced me to put the phone away for now, and switch to a dual-sim S21 Ultra. i'm willing to give Google a chance to address the connectivity issues, but my confidence in their ability to do so is pretty low right now.
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i was on s21 ultra and switch to pixel6 pro if iam kinda sad? yes definetly and iam not big fan of samsung but compare to p6 pro samsung was way better
I bought the unlocked version, and I've had no problems to speak of. My former daily driver was an iPhone 12 Pro Max. Been switching my VZ SIM back and forth to see which one I'll stick with.
blackhawk said:
Who? Twitter? I never go there, same as FB, Instagram etc.
Purveyors of disinformation and censorship, at the best.
Really this is Google's doing and not singularly the P6 Pro itself; Android 12 is a huge part of the problem. Android 11 was no gem either.
Following Apple's lead like a lost puppy was one of their biggest mistakes. Google Android degrades their market edge by doing so and ultimately fails their customers.
A large part of Google's problem is that they are also control freaks. They want to push their cloud services at all costs even if it conflicts with the customer's best interests. They learned that from MS.
Who needs another bloody iPhone knock off?
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My concern is that Google may not find a solution for the P6P reception problems and will have a Nexus 6P issue on its hands. Lawsuits caused many Nexus 6P to be replaced with Pixels so in theory it could happen again but 10 months is a long way from now.
Somebody other has problem with photo quality and strange artifacts? Here look in bright part ....pls dont be a stupid and dont say its becouse saturation or something photo is normal standard photo with no setup right from camera
I'm on Dec build in UK (not sure if that makes a difference but O2 network), I have had small teething issues but nothing like some of the major bugs that have been mentioned. Are we using different variants or something?
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My concern is that Google may not find a solution for the P6P reception problems and will have a Nexus 6P issue on its hands. Lawsuits caused many Nexus 6P to be replaced with Pixels so in theory it could happen again but 10 months is a long way from now.
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Please no!
bobby janow said:
I don't even know who that is, nor do I really care. However, and this is a big but, if he has a following of thousands of users who buy phones for multiple family members and go on social media platforms then it becomes a problem. Not here because it seems no one is on social media round these parts, but this is the extreme minority. So call it where it belongs, the phone is buggy.. big time. I'm not talking about battery life either, I'm talking about not being able to make a phone call or receive a text. That is major. If I want stability I go with one of the big guns, Apple or Google. Pure iPhone experience and pure Android experience. There is nothing pure about this Pixel 6 series. OEMs compromising and releasing a device that is obviously flawed is not a great model for success. I don't want a Samsung or an iPhone. I want a Pixel. There is absolutely no reason I should put up with a test device when they touted this as the phone of the year. Next generation doesn't interest me right about now. I want a phone with security updates that are current and a device that always can receive a phone call and text. It is not the Pixel 6 no matter how many excuses you can come up with.
If this was a test device at least tell me that. If they are working out problems fitting stuff in then let me know. I easily could have kept my pristine P5 but I was led to believe this was a finished product and, I repeat, the phone of the year. the iPhone killer the every other phone killer. Well the P6 just got killed by their own hands and if you can't admit it then nothing I can say will change your mind.
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He's got 15.2 million subscribers on YouTube. But I agree with you. You would think Google put a little more resources behind it, especially with their big marketing push.
I have a typo and almost every single sentence when doing voice dictation. Maybe I have a stroke happening and my speech is the issue but I'm heavily dependent on it and have been relying on it for years without a problem.
It's just one of the many bugs I'm dealing with, but by no means the end of the world... I ran the A12 betas on my 4XL and it was a rather good experience. Basically all the new features I use specific to the 6pro are broken. I'm hoping that January will be our lucky month
The only issue I have is a bluetooth audio streaming. I need to reconnect it one or two times to make it work.
yeah my second Pixel 6 pro went back to google yesterday, I have had issues with both 6 pro`s I have had, so I`m back to my 9 pro for now. guess wait and see what happens with the S22 ultra or the 10 pro.