I have a completely stock Verizon HTC 10, that I bought a couple weeks ago. I am interested in using Sunshine to go s-off locked. I'd like to do this before I run the Nougat update. My question is if I only run Sunshine, will I still have the stock recovery after it is done? If so, will I be able to take the OTA to Nougat at that point? Then in theory I'd be s-off, locked, on Nougat and un-rooted. Then I could wait until root is acquired but I wouldn't run the risk of upgrading firmware and such and losing the ability for Sunshine to get s-off.
Does this question make sense?
Thanks everyone!
Chewieez said:
I have a completely stock Verizon HTC 10, that I bought a couple weeks ago. I am interested in using Sunshine to go s-off locked. I'd like to do this before I run the Nougat update. My question is if I only run Sunshine, will I still have the stock recovery after it is done? If so, will I be able to take the OTA to Nougat at that point? Then in theory I'd be s-off, locked, on Nougat and un-rooted. Then I could wait until root is acquired but I wouldn't run the risk of upgrading firmware and such and losing the ability for Sunshine to get s-off.
Does this question make sense?
Thanks everyone!
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Yes youll have stock recovery and you can upgrade and still keep your s-off.also when nougat comes out in the verizon thread someone will post a flashable zip or ruu of nougat so either way you will be safe.now idk how nougat will act but now the only way to get cm to boot on vzw is too flash a midified us unlocked firmware then ruu back to verizon firmware.hope this helps and answers your questions
Chewieez said:
I have a completely stock Verizon HTC 10, that I bought a couple weeks ago. I am interested in using Sunshine to go s-off locked. I'd like to do this before I run the Nougat update. My question is if I only run Sunshine, will I still have the stock recovery after it is done? If so, will I be able to take the OTA to Nougat at that point? Then in theory I'd be s-off, locked, on Nougat and un-rooted. Then I could wait until root is acquired but I wouldn't run the risk of upgrading firmware and such and losing the ability for Sunshine to get s-off.
Does this question make sense?
Thanks everyone!
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Hi!
I'm also thinking about doing the S-off before the nougat update. In your post, you said that " ...I wouldn't run the risk of upgrading firmware and such and losing the ability for Sunshine to get s-off. ". What risks does upgrading firmware have? Do you lose S-off if you upgrade the firmware? Isn't the Nougat OTA a firmware update itself?
Sorry for the stupid question, I'm kinda new to the topic
bence.szij said:
Hi!
I'm also thinking about doing the S-off before the nougat update. In your post, you said that " ...I wouldn't run the risk of upgrading firmware and such and losing the ability for Sunshine to get s-off. ". What risks does upgrading firmware have? Do you lose S-off if you upgrade the firmware? Isn't the Nougat OTA a firmware update itself?
Sorry for the stupid question, I'm kinda new to the topic
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I think he meant first s-off while you're still on MM,then update to Nougat.
bence.szij said:
Hi!
I'm also thinking about doing the S-off before the nougat update. In your post, you said that " ...I wouldn't run the risk of upgrading firmware and such and losing the ability for Sunshine to get s-off. ". What risks does upgrading firmware have? Do you lose S-off if you upgrade the firmware? Isn't the Nougat OTA a firmware update itself?
Sorry for the stupid question, I'm kinda new to the topic
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I meant if you upgrade to N and upgrade firmware before you get s-off, you may lose the exploit sunshine uses to gain s-off.
Once you have s-off, nothing will change you back to s-on except a deliberate act you do to set it back to S-on. Upgrading firmware after you have s-off will never set you back to s-on.
Sent from my HTC6545LVW using Tapatalk
The OP being a a Verizon user, there is no N Verizon firmware he can take while being S-ON until Verizon gives us N (or it somehow gets leaked?). So not much to worry about yet.
If you want S-OFF, however, I would do it very soon, as N will most certainly patch the temp-root method used in Sunshine to acquire S-OFF.
To the OP - after you run Sunshine you will be booted back to where you were pre-Sunshine, only difference is you'll be now S-OFF and bootloader unlocked (even if you choose locked).
For other users like an Unlocked variant device if S-ON and a locked bootloader, if you run the N RUU, or take the OTA, which updates firmware will kill your opportunity for S-OFF until/if/when/ Sunshine is updated for N, so be careful about what you flash/upgrade.
Best of luck, all.
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Hi everyone!
This is the situation:
I got my unlocked HTC Desire HD from an authorized store but when I started it (at home) I've noticed that is branded from T-mobile Germany.
Since I use a Vodafone SIM, I decided to unbranded it. So I installed this stock ROM: RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26 .03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed. I followed the steps described in a thread on this forum, using Visionary and One click S-OFF tool. Everything was just fine. My device works without any problem except one: can't find OTA updates.
WHAT COULD IT BE? IS THERE SOMETHING I COULD MAKE TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE?
Thank you in advance,
joaquin
As far as I know, once you have s-off and root and a custom Rom installed, the ota update will not work. If you want the update you will need to install a custom Rom running the new update.
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I understood that the stock ROM is not a customized ROM.
And I checked in bootloader and the first row looks like this:
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON
Doesn't this mean that my device has S-ON?
Is it possible that my device to be still rooted? If yes, is there a solution to make it unrooted?
Joquin
To be more specific, when i say can't find OTA updates, I mean I don't receive notification about updates and when I manually check it says "There are no updates available for your phone."
Do you know which CID you have on phone?
I had rooted, Eng S-Off and Radio S-Off (Super CID-11111111) on phone and phone found OTA update. Although I didn't tried to install it since in that way I'll be loosing root.
If I understand correctly youre still on 1.32 and you want to aquire root and S-OFF AND you want to update to 1.72?
If that is what you want, you will not be needing a prompt from your phone to update the system, because that way you will not be keeping root/S-OFF after the update.
Ensure you have BOTH Eng S-OFF and Radio S-OFF and you did temproot with visionary+. Check IVO's refference thread for that.
Its gotta work.
Then, for updating the phone correctly, take your time to read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
its not an easy guide for beginners (such as myself), but if you read the entire thread you will eventually get out. I did too.
I'm sorry, but I don't know where to find the CID number.
In the bootloader doesn't appear.
Joaquin
@maurei
I know if I will update to 1.72 is not possible to root at this moment and probably I will not make this update. But I want the OTA updates working not only for now.
Thank you anyaway
Joaquin
ah, hit quick reply instead of edit I guess.. soz for the dubble post, del this one
Thats what I'm saying my friend - you CAN have root AND 1.72
Its not possible to root fromin 1.72, but it IS possible to maintain root as you upgrade from 1.32 to 1.72 .
Reading my previous post made me realize it wasn't so clear.
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Then, for updating the phone correctly, take your time to read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
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I meant:
Then, for updating (=manually installing the update through recoverymode) the phone correctly (correctly =MAINTAINING ROOT and S-OFF), follow that guide.
Be sure you have ENG S-OFF and Radio S-OFF + permroot with Visionary+.
Also, be sure not to remove any preinstalled apps as this will cause unnecessary problems during the install
Sorry if I wasn't able to make myself clear.
My goal is not to have a rooted device. Maybe in the future I'll make this step if it will be necesary.
I want my device as new one, from store. I explained in the first post of this thread why I'm in this situation.
Through this thread I want to find a way to get OTA updates.
BTW, I understood that if the device is rooted OTA updates aren't possible. So I installed visionary+ and I used the "unroot now" button and I received this message: "your device doesn't appear to be rooted" or something like this.
It seems is not about unroot or s-on (see the 3rd post, too).
Anyway, if somebody has any idea, it would be apreciated to share.
Thanks,
Joaquin
You should at least get radio s-off before you upgrade. You'll thank me later if you decide you do actually want root.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
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You should at least get radio s-off before you upgrade. You'll thank me later if you decide you do actually want root.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
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I've read about this and if I'll decide to upgrade I'll do it for sure.
Thanks,
Joaquin
Hi I would like to know if there would be a problem if I flash the official rue of an Asian desire z with a european version or vice versa?
I bought my phone second hand and I decided to flash the 1.34.707.1 version into my originally 1.72 desire z. Now my phone cannot find updates. It keeps telling me that there is no update even if check manually.
I know that I can flash a higher version by downloading a higher rue version but what I wanted to find out if I can no longer receive ota updates because of what I did.
Since when I was in 1.72 my phone did not notify me of the 1.82 update too...
I don't know what's wrong.. Please help. Thank you.
I think if you are SuperCID and S-Off, it would work. Otherwise, it won't let you flash the ROM from another region.
Also, if you flash an official ROM, you will lose root, and you can't get it back on any ROM version higher than 1.34. For this reason, if you downgraded to 1.34 for purposes of rooting, you don't want the OTA updates, anyway.
If you're rooted and S-Off, and you want a more updated ROM version, just flash the Virtuous custom ROM. Its mostly stock 1.85, but rooted, and with a few cool added features and some optimizations.
Hi, the thing is I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to rooting. I read the posts here specifically in the wii section and I don't think I have the skills to pull it off and risk bricking my phone.
I think my phone is not rooted or it was before but not anymore, since as mentioned I flashed an official ruu.
So basically, I should still be able to receive OTA's from HTC right? I was wondering why my phone keeps telling me there's no update when the software number is 1.34 stock and not rooted. Shouldn't it notify me that there's an update at least regardless of whether I want to or not?
If you are not rooted, why did you downgrade to 1.34?
I also don't understand why you want to flash the RUU from a different region. If you aren't SuperCID and S-Off it won't work. Why not just flash the latest official RUU for your phone versions/region if you want to be updated and don't care about root?
I'm not sure why your OTA's don't work. I'm still on 1.34 (well, back to it), and I still get notifications to update.
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If you are not rooted, why did you downgrade to 1.34?
I also don't understand why you want to flash the RUU from a different region. If you aren't SuperCID and S-Off it won't work. Why not just flash the latest official RUU for your phone versions/region if you want to be updated and don't care about root?
I'm not sure why your OTA's don't work. I'm still on 1.34 (well, back to it), and I still get notifications to update.
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@redpoint73
I bought the phone from a friend of mine. I noticed that it had eng hboot and had s-off.
I have zero knowledge about rooting. When the gingerbread test rom for the desire z came out, I flashed the pc10img.zip via the bootloader, however since it was very buggy and laggy, I decided to flash stock desire z rom.
Having no knowledge about rooting I read some of the threads in this forum and learned that flashing an official rom i.e. the RUU would be the easiest way to return back to stock.
It worked, I am using stock rom. I experimented and found out that I can flash any of the RUU, so I chose any of the WWE release. I decided to flash an older firmware version specifically, the 1.34.707.1.
Now the problem is my phone doesn't prompt me with an update, even after checking in about phone > check for update.
I still have s-off but eng hboot is gone. To clarify I was not the one who rooted the phone, so I have no idea what to do.
Is it possible that the previous owner tweaked something in the phone that would absolutely prevent it from receiving OTA?
I am just worried since I have a feeling that the gingerbread OTA will be released in a few weeks since the update for the Desire HD is already out.
Please help and thank you again. I extremely as a NOOB!
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I am just worried since I have a feeling that the gingerbread OTA will be released in a few weeks since the update for the Desire HD is already out.
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I wouldn't worry about getting the official Gingerbread ROM OTA. It will probably be posted here or at shipped-roms.com long before you would get it OTA.
Hi!
so i'm on ViperOne 2.5.0 with 2.22.531.6 firmware, unlocked bootloader, rooted, untouched CID and S-On. I'm wanting to update my firmware, gain S-Off, update to newest ViperOne. My plan is to relock the bootloader and run the 2.22.531.6 based T-mobile RUU, re-root and re-unlock plus change recovery to TWRP, run Sunshine to gain S-Off, then install latest ViperOne. Does that plan make sense? Normally I would just go ahead and experiment, but I'm finding the HTC phone to be much more complex than the previous nexii that I've tinkered with. I've been reading on this subject for the last week and I think my plan is sound, but wanted to consult with some more experienced people if they think it'll work. Thank you!
glycopoo said:
Hi!
so i'm on ViperOne 2.5.0 with 2.22.531.6 firmware, unlocked bootloader, rooted, untouched CID and S-On. I'm wanting to update my firmware, gain S-Off, update to newest ViperOne. My plan is to relock the bootloader and run the 2.22.531.6 based T-mobile RUU, re-root and re-unlock plus change recovery to TWRP, run Sunshine to gain S-Off, then install latest ViperOne. Does that plan make sense? Normally I would just go ahead and experiment, but I'm finding the HTC phone to be much more complex than the previous nexii that I've tinkered with. I've been reading on this subject for the last week and I think my plan is sound, but wanted to consult with some more experienced people if they think it'll work. Thank you!
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At the beginning of the post you say that you are already on 2.22.531.6, whY do u wanna upgrade if u are already on it?
oh, i wanted to update to firmware 3.xx. Excuse me, I assumed that was implied with updating to the latest Viperone, which requires the 3.xx firmware. So what I ended up doing, for anyone that was/is in the situation I was in, was restoring a TWRP backup of stock Tmobile 2.22.531.6, rooting that with SuperSu.zip before rebooting, then booting into android. I then ran sunshine and obtained S-Off (for me the money was worth it). From there i flashed a stock recovery and allowed the phone to update to the 3.xx firmware via an OTA. Then I re-installed TWRP via an M8 toolkit (only part that required connecting to my PC), and then flashed the latest ViperOne. I obtained all files for this process from XDA. Once again all is well with the universe (for me at least). If anyone wants more details on what I did, let me know.
So I used Sunshine to go S-OFF on my M7, but other than that I am bone stock- no ROM or custom recovery- not even rooted. Will I have any issue with the 5.0 OTA, or is there something I should be doing to prep it for the update?
Rule of thumb - never OTA if you're s-off or rooted or anything until you've seen on XDA or similar that there aren't any associated problems
In the life of HTC, no update has turned the secure flag to on (s-on). But as post two said, at least wait for confirmation. It shouldn't turn s-on or lock the bootloader, but just wait until you get confirmation.
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I probably should have phrased my original question differently. I already intend to wait on the OTA to see what others experience as far as setting s-on. I'm mainly wondering if, once I decide to take it, the OTA will install properly if I've already gone s-off via Sunshine. From what I've read, it sounds like to OTA will install if you're s-off, but was just looking for some confirmation.
dberthia said:
I probably should have phrased my original question differently. I already intend to wait on the OTA to see what others experience as far as setting s-on. I'm mainly wondering if, once I decide to take it, the OTA will install properly if I've already gone s-off via Sunshine. From what I've read, it sounds like to OTA will install if you're s-off, but was just looking for some confirmation.
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So far with all HTC devices (that exist as of now), s-off itself has never affected or prevented an OTA.
Now on the other end, if you're Not ALREADY s-off, each new OTA brings with it the possibility of not being able to gain S-off...
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So far with all HTC devices (that exist as of now), s-off itself has never affected or prevented an OTA.
Now on the other end, if you're Not ALREADY s-off, each new OTA brings with it the possibility of not being able to gain S-off...
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That was my understanding as well. Thanks!
I've just upgraded and currently have an M9.
It's 1.32.161.7 firmware with CID VODAP_001 (iirc, not at computer right now).
I want to get root access and upgrade firmware but I've flashed TWRP beta, made a backup of stock and downloaded ota. I've not taken any further steps. I obviously can't flash ota without stock recovery, which I don't have. What are my options now in order to upgrade firmware without S-Off. If I do eventually get S-Off through Sunshine, what would be the steps I need to take in order to upgrade firmware?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks.
S-OFF gives you full range of possibilities and does not interfere or hinder your OTAs, upgrades, etc - in any way.. S-OFF does not impose any limitations or additional rules..