Hi I would like to know if there would be a problem if I flash the official rue of an Asian desire z with a european version or vice versa?
I bought my phone second hand and I decided to flash the 1.34.707.1 version into my originally 1.72 desire z. Now my phone cannot find updates. It keeps telling me that there is no update even if check manually.
I know that I can flash a higher version by downloading a higher rue version but what I wanted to find out if I can no longer receive ota updates because of what I did.
Since when I was in 1.72 my phone did not notify me of the 1.82 update too...
I don't know what's wrong.. Please help. Thank you.
I think if you are SuperCID and S-Off, it would work. Otherwise, it won't let you flash the ROM from another region.
Also, if you flash an official ROM, you will lose root, and you can't get it back on any ROM version higher than 1.34. For this reason, if you downgraded to 1.34 for purposes of rooting, you don't want the OTA updates, anyway.
If you're rooted and S-Off, and you want a more updated ROM version, just flash the Virtuous custom ROM. Its mostly stock 1.85, but rooted, and with a few cool added features and some optimizations.
Hi, the thing is I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to rooting. I read the posts here specifically in the wii section and I don't think I have the skills to pull it off and risk bricking my phone.
I think my phone is not rooted or it was before but not anymore, since as mentioned I flashed an official ruu.
So basically, I should still be able to receive OTA's from HTC right? I was wondering why my phone keeps telling me there's no update when the software number is 1.34 stock and not rooted. Shouldn't it notify me that there's an update at least regardless of whether I want to or not?
If you are not rooted, why did you downgrade to 1.34?
I also don't understand why you want to flash the RUU from a different region. If you aren't SuperCID and S-Off it won't work. Why not just flash the latest official RUU for your phone versions/region if you want to be updated and don't care about root?
I'm not sure why your OTA's don't work. I'm still on 1.34 (well, back to it), and I still get notifications to update.
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If you are not rooted, why did you downgrade to 1.34?
I also don't understand why you want to flash the RUU from a different region. If you aren't SuperCID and S-Off it won't work. Why not just flash the latest official RUU for your phone versions/region if you want to be updated and don't care about root?
I'm not sure why your OTA's don't work. I'm still on 1.34 (well, back to it), and I still get notifications to update.
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@redpoint73
I bought the phone from a friend of mine. I noticed that it had eng hboot and had s-off.
I have zero knowledge about rooting. When the gingerbread test rom for the desire z came out, I flashed the pc10img.zip via the bootloader, however since it was very buggy and laggy, I decided to flash stock desire z rom.
Having no knowledge about rooting I read some of the threads in this forum and learned that flashing an official rom i.e. the RUU would be the easiest way to return back to stock.
It worked, I am using stock rom. I experimented and found out that I can flash any of the RUU, so I chose any of the WWE release. I decided to flash an older firmware version specifically, the 1.34.707.1.
Now the problem is my phone doesn't prompt me with an update, even after checking in about phone > check for update.
I still have s-off but eng hboot is gone. To clarify I was not the one who rooted the phone, so I have no idea what to do.
Is it possible that the previous owner tweaked something in the phone that would absolutely prevent it from receiving OTA?
I am just worried since I have a feeling that the gingerbread OTA will be released in a few weeks since the update for the Desire HD is already out.
Please help and thank you again. I extremely as a NOOB!
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I am just worried since I have a feeling that the gingerbread OTA will be released in a few weeks since the update for the Desire HD is already out.
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I wouldn't worry about getting the official Gingerbread ROM OTA. It will probably be posted here or at shipped-roms.com long before you would get it OTA.
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Hi everyone,
as can be seen in the title I got a branded Desire although i bought it as unbranded.
Long story short: I am now undecided what to do and it depends on the following:
So after hours of reading I am still not sure if it is possible and safe to completely remove the branding and have a permanently unbranded desire with official european rom and radio with which I can receive further updates from google/htc OTA at no risk AS IF I HAD BOUGHT AN UNBRANDED ONE. (I am not interested in custom roms etc since I have that with an earlier htc winmo device and ended up with backupping, restoring, flashing every second day and it costs me a lot of time)
The warranty is not so much an issue. But as far as I know I can completely revert the debranding process through nandroid... (?)
I would really appreciate any answers to wether it is possible to turn my desire into a "official/original" unbranded one.
Thx
touchhdizzel
Yes. Root & apply a stock (rooted) ROM. Problem solved. But if you accept any OTA update, you lose root.
You don't have to root but then you'll not be able to go back unless you can find the ROM that's on your device. Just make a goldcard and flash with a WWE or Europe ROM.
Thx for the answers.
A few more questions came up for both methods though.
in general:
where can i find a pure stock rom? in the wiki there is only a link to a 1.15 one.
for johnstevedoe's method:
loosing root is no problem since i dont need it. as i said i want to use it like a stock one and be able to recieve updates without having to wipe the phone.
i cant remember where but i read that ppl who had branded desires (i think orange) and used the ota update got further problems with their wifi etc. so it seems that there is still provider specific software (or hardware??) in the phone and it is therefore not behaving like a unbranded one. i guess if i dont encounter problems with the 2.2 update i might get some with future updates.
for steve228uk method:
do ihave to leave the gold card in the phone?
do i have to put it in for the ota updates?
and lastly, is there any resource for the original shipped branded roms? the xda wiki only links to one unbranded stock rom.
Thx for ur help
Dizzel
There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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so that means that it is not possible to fully debrand with this method in some cases?
do you know anything about the method using unrevoked? is this capable of turning the desire into a unbranded one since it replaces the whole rom and parts of the boot etc. how can there still occur problems with ota when all branded software was replaced?
cheers
Hi guys, I've been searching the forum for a while but I still can't find a solution/reason for what it's happening to my DZ, which I bought from England and vodafone branded.
Soon after the first configuration I upgraded to 1.72 as suggested, but I couldn't know that rooting was then no more possible. I didn't want to be stuck on a vodafone branded and only-english rom, so I debranded succesfully my DZ by downgrading to a stock htc 1.34 rom (RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155556_signed), obtaining then permroot + superCID.
Now my rom speaks italian (as I wanted) and is rooted, but if I check manually for updates, I get only a message telling me that the phone is updated and there are no new upgrades available.
I tried to:
- look for updates before rooting and with s-on (CID vodap_001), waiting even for 1 week
- put back the gold card I used to downgrade and then checking for OTA
- check for updates with root, superCID and s-off
Is there any reason for that?
How can I update again to 2.2.1 (1.72 & 1.83)?
ps: I prefer a stock rom for the moment instead of a custom rom
Any help/opinion is appreciated!
There won't be any OTA updates once you've rooted and de-branded. And if there are, do not accept them, as they will either fail or possibly unroot/brick your phone.
Your option will to be to find a rooted, stock ROM that comes with the latest OTA software package already installed. Check the dev section, they have a list of ROMs. You may not be able to find the exact specific ROM you've currently got, but there are many choices that can come close.
First of all, thanks for prompt answering martonikaj.
I thought I could receive and install ota updates since there was a stock rom with superCID in my devide.. which is different from having a custom rom like Virtuos.
What about users telling they had downgraded-debranded-rooted their DZ and can receive and install successfully OTA updates??
Flashing a rooted stock rom implies wiping everything.. and I prefer to avoid that.
There's a rooted 1.82 stock ROM at : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960149 . Really if you're going to make that huge version jump you should do a wipe. Back up your stuff with Titanium backup first
Rixan said:
First of all, thanks for prompt answering martonikaj.
I thought I could receive and install ota updates since there was a stock rom with superCID in my devide.. which is different from having a custom rom like Virtuos.
What about users telling they had downgraded-debranded-rooted their DZ and can receive and install successfully OTA updates??
Flashing a rooted stock rom implies wiping everything.. and I prefer to avoid that.
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Sorry but in all my times rooting and modding devices, applying OTA updates has never been something that works with rooted devices.
Unfortunately, yes, if you want to upgrade to the rooted version of the latest OTA ROM, you're gonna have to wipe everything and start from fresh with the new ROM.
Same here
Hi,
The same thing is exactly happening to me. My phone keeps telling me that there is not update but the software number is 1.34, which from what I've read is an older firmware. Shouldn't my phone be able to detect the update?
The question isnt whether rooted is better, but why our phones are not receiving any ota. Granting that stock rom is not better, the problem is there is no notification at all that there is an update.
FYI, I have flashed an official rue version but still has s-off. :-D I don't know if having s-off would prevent the phone from finding an update.
Think about it this way people: when you mod your phone by rooting, it's like cutting the imbillical cord with your carrier/manufacturer's update servers. Don't worry about why, just have that mentality as it will make all your lives easier. If you rooted, why would you want a stock rom that limits you?
If you want stock with sense, go for GingerSense, Vitruous, etc..
If you want stock w/o sense, go for any of the other pre-rooted G2 roms.
I really don't understand why people would complain about OTA updates when you can backup and update to a rom of your choice whenever you want. Plus, if you don't like it, you can revert! Something you cannot do with a stock OTA update.
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Sent from my Virtuous Desire Z 1.0.2 using XDA App
Hi guys,
I know that the htc official update is out in Europe but was wondering as reading the custom roms the HBOOT and Radio are not updated....
Is this due to new securities?
Basically am wondering if I could wait for the network to provide the latest update, then install a custom rom so that I have the latest hboot/radio too....
Have not been with htc phones for 2+ years so re-learning things....
Thanks.
A custom firmware can't update HBOOT or the baseband. You can only get it as part of the official HTC firmware updates.
If you're concerned about getting S-OFF then you don't want to update HBOOT just in case it fixes whatever exploit is necessary to get S-OFF.
If you don't care about S-OFF and just want custom firmware whilst accepting that updating HBOOT and the baseband is more annoying then you can do what you suggest. You should pair the baseband with the firmware though for best compatibility. For example, you shouldn't use the baseband for 1.26 with a 1.28 firmware without lots of testing as there might be some odd interactions or bugs.
Thanks for the response.... I reckon there will be a few weeks wait for the update via the network, so hopefully S-OFF has been worked on and available in which case I may just use that method.
Hi, probably going to sound like a N00b question but I haven't yet found answer that fits.
If I have a HOX that is running v1.26 and I root and ROM to something using v1.29 or anything higher than 1.26 can I use the RUU for 1.26 that fits my CID to revert to stock?
Only reason I ask is that I have already had one HOX that I managed to well and truly kill that my provider has fortunately replaced for me (although they don't yet know it's been unlocked!).
The Mic died after a few days from root and ROM onto RD MIUI, but as I had performed a full wipe I had no stock backup to revert to when I then wanted to get it replaced, and so ended up trying all I could to find the RUU for v1.29 but there was only v1.26 available. So I've had to send back my faulty handset with a different ROM on it.
Just looking to avoid a repeat in the future.
Thanks
(Please try to keep your comments helpful rather than mocking)
It is the hboot you can't downgrade. As far as I can tell, it has been updated with every release of the OTA.
If you root and install a ROM with a newer base, the hboot won't be updated (unless it's a newer stock ROM updated by RUU or OTA) you can still go back to an RUU with the same or newer version you have now.
Hi there,
I have a Telus HTC M8, which I got when it first came out and threw TWRP and Cyanogenmod on it. Great decision.
The only delema I have now, is I am at a point with the cyanogenmod updates that I can not pass a certain one, as it requires a firmware update.
I am on HBoot 3.16
I can not find a nandroid backp of the stock OS for my phone for the correct Hboot
I also can not find the stock recovery for my Hboot
These would be needed to do the OTA update, then go back to TWRP and cyanogenmod.
The other way of updating the firmware (from what I know) is to push the .zip through fastboot.
Although I can not find the firmware update for my Telus device (661 I believe).
I also can not put S-Off to obtain super CID (curently S-On) as firewater is gone, and sunshine requires the factory android.
Any help, links, etc, are appreaciated.
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johndom4774 said:
Hi there,
I have a Telus HTC M8, which I got when it first came out and threw TWRP and Cyanogenmod on it. Great decision.
The only delema I have now, is I am at a point with the cyanogenmod updates that I can not pass a certain one, as it requires a firmware update.
I am on HBoot 3.16
I can not find a nandroid backp of the stock OS for my phone for the correct Hboot
I also can not find the stock recovery for my Hboot
These would be needed to do the OTA update, then go back to TWRP and cyanogenmod.
The other way of updating the firmware (from what I know) is to push the .zip through fastboot.
Although I can not find the firmware update for my Telus device (661 I believe).
I also can not put S-Off to obtain super CID (curently S-On) as firewater is gone, and sunshine requires the factory android.
Any help, links, etc, are appreaciated.
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If you really want S-Off (your best option IMO ~ never wait for Telus to update *my carrier also*) I can help you. Of course, Sunshine is the only way now.
Flash the Maximus HD ROM. It is best if you look for one that matches your firmware/hboot (4.4.2)
A lot of users have reported success with gaining S-Off using this ROM. It is near stock and I can almost 99.9% guarantee it will work.
If you want to take the S-Off route, you can download the Maximus HD 4.4.2 version by clicking this link.
You can also install Rogers or bell from 3.16 hboot. To continue with soff after.
thank you very very much. I will give it a shot and touch base with the results!
wow. Thank you so much!
Life-fu*****-saver!
Much love! <3
p.s. It worked