Hi guys, I've been searching the forum for a while but I still can't find a solution/reason for what it's happening to my DZ, which I bought from England and vodafone branded.
Soon after the first configuration I upgraded to 1.72 as suggested, but I couldn't know that rooting was then no more possible. I didn't want to be stuck on a vodafone branded and only-english rom, so I debranded succesfully my DZ by downgrading to a stock htc 1.34 rom (RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155556_signed), obtaining then permroot + superCID.
Now my rom speaks italian (as I wanted) and is rooted, but if I check manually for updates, I get only a message telling me that the phone is updated and there are no new upgrades available.
I tried to:
- look for updates before rooting and with s-on (CID vodap_001), waiting even for 1 week
- put back the gold card I used to downgrade and then checking for OTA
- check for updates with root, superCID and s-off
Is there any reason for that?
How can I update again to 2.2.1 (1.72 & 1.83)?
ps: I prefer a stock rom for the moment instead of a custom rom
Any help/opinion is appreciated!
There won't be any OTA updates once you've rooted and de-branded. And if there are, do not accept them, as they will either fail or possibly unroot/brick your phone.
Your option will to be to find a rooted, stock ROM that comes with the latest OTA software package already installed. Check the dev section, they have a list of ROMs. You may not be able to find the exact specific ROM you've currently got, but there are many choices that can come close.
First of all, thanks for prompt answering martonikaj.
I thought I could receive and install ota updates since there was a stock rom with superCID in my devide.. which is different from having a custom rom like Virtuos.
What about users telling they had downgraded-debranded-rooted their DZ and can receive and install successfully OTA updates??
Flashing a rooted stock rom implies wiping everything.. and I prefer to avoid that.
There's a rooted 1.82 stock ROM at : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960149 . Really if you're going to make that huge version jump you should do a wipe. Back up your stuff with Titanium backup first
Rixan said:
First of all, thanks for prompt answering martonikaj.
I thought I could receive and install ota updates since there was a stock rom with superCID in my devide.. which is different from having a custom rom like Virtuos.
What about users telling they had downgraded-debranded-rooted their DZ and can receive and install successfully OTA updates??
Flashing a rooted stock rom implies wiping everything.. and I prefer to avoid that.
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Sorry but in all my times rooting and modding devices, applying OTA updates has never been something that works with rooted devices.
Unfortunately, yes, if you want to upgrade to the rooted version of the latest OTA ROM, you're gonna have to wipe everything and start from fresh with the new ROM.
Same here
Hi,
The same thing is exactly happening to me. My phone keeps telling me that there is not update but the software number is 1.34, which from what I've read is an older firmware. Shouldn't my phone be able to detect the update?
The question isnt whether rooted is better, but why our phones are not receiving any ota. Granting that stock rom is not better, the problem is there is no notification at all that there is an update.
FYI, I have flashed an official rue version but still has s-off. :-D I don't know if having s-off would prevent the phone from finding an update.
Think about it this way people: when you mod your phone by rooting, it's like cutting the imbillical cord with your carrier/manufacturer's update servers. Don't worry about why, just have that mentality as it will make all your lives easier. If you rooted, why would you want a stock rom that limits you?
If you want stock with sense, go for GingerSense, Vitruous, etc..
If you want stock w/o sense, go for any of the other pre-rooted G2 roms.
I really don't understand why people would complain about OTA updates when you can backup and update to a rom of your choice whenever you want. Plus, if you don't like it, you can revert! Something you cannot do with a stock OTA update.
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It seems like there is a risk when doing this that the HBOOT will get updated and prevent future rooting as well as preventing installing custom roms.
Is it possible to update using OTA without updating HBOOT? In one thread I saw mention of an HTC-pushed OTA after updating to Froyo which is what does the HBOOT, is that right, in which case presumably one could just reject this particular update?
I can see there are custom ROM's that will achievethe same end, but it would be nice to go the "pure" route first.
Could someone explain or point me in the direction of an explanation for how installing a custom rom affected automatic updates, as well as the difference between pre and post ota, and why we can't install a pure clean android 2.2 installation in our phones. I am relatively new to this, but did alot of iPhone hacking before.. I've already rooted, S-OFF and flashed a few different roms having my phone 2 weeks and new to android hope someone can explain, thanks :_)
When you flash a custom ROM, you will no longer get the automatic updates OTA. Either you will have to revert to the stock ROM for the update, or the ROM developer will have to incorporate the OTA update changes into the ROM.
There are a few ROMs that attempt to give you a plain vanilla Android experience. But in my opinion, Cyanogen is one of the best mixes of plain Android with lots of extra features.
Okay that makes sense, I'm currently using a villian rom with no sense, is it worth my while installing cyanogen? and if so will i go with RC4 of wait for the stable release?
jakbjak said:
Could someone explain or point me in the direction of an explanation for how installing a custom rom affected automatic updates, as well as the difference between pre and post ota, and why we can't install a pure clean android 2.2 installation in our phones. I am relatively new to this, but did alot of iPhone hacking before.. I've already rooted, S-OFF and flashed a few different roms having my phone 2 weeks and new to android hope someone can explain, thanks :_)
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Well, the reason for many semi-bricks from trying to downgrade to original stock rom pre- or post-OTA was the fact that hboot was hacked, and not truly "S-OFF." If you search the dev section you will find the S-OFF, SIM unlock, SuperCID guide that will give you true S-OFF. I recommend reading that--it helped elucidate why semi-bricks were showing up. Once this is done, it should be easy to flash a rooted, stock ROM when the OTAs start showing up and get the update that way, or just wait for it appear in the forums (which is usually sooner than the OTA gets pushed out, anyhow).
So the S-OFF I have isn't complete? Not that I need a sim unlock as I bought the phone off contract, but it's worth my while getting the true S-OFF? Thanks for all ye're help, there are so many people talking about these things in every section it's hard to pull a search of a simple explanation,
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So the S-OFF I have isn't complete? Not that I need a sim unlock as I bought the phone off contract, but it's worth my while getting the true S-OFF? Thanks for all ye're help, there are so many people talking about these things in every section it's hard to pull a search of a simple explanation,
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Yes, the previous S-OFF was via an engineering version of HBOOT, which was set to report S-OFF. But the security setting is actually held in the radio, and was still S-ON.
The new, "true" S-OFF (via gfree) is a lot safer than the old method, e.g. much less prone to a brick if you flash the wrong thing (e.g. an older RUU than the ROM you're running).
Hi I would like to know if there would be a problem if I flash the official rue of an Asian desire z with a european version or vice versa?
I bought my phone second hand and I decided to flash the 1.34.707.1 version into my originally 1.72 desire z. Now my phone cannot find updates. It keeps telling me that there is no update even if check manually.
I know that I can flash a higher version by downloading a higher rue version but what I wanted to find out if I can no longer receive ota updates because of what I did.
Since when I was in 1.72 my phone did not notify me of the 1.82 update too...
I don't know what's wrong.. Please help. Thank you.
I think if you are SuperCID and S-Off, it would work. Otherwise, it won't let you flash the ROM from another region.
Also, if you flash an official ROM, you will lose root, and you can't get it back on any ROM version higher than 1.34. For this reason, if you downgraded to 1.34 for purposes of rooting, you don't want the OTA updates, anyway.
If you're rooted and S-Off, and you want a more updated ROM version, just flash the Virtuous custom ROM. Its mostly stock 1.85, but rooted, and with a few cool added features and some optimizations.
Hi, the thing is I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to rooting. I read the posts here specifically in the wii section and I don't think I have the skills to pull it off and risk bricking my phone.
I think my phone is not rooted or it was before but not anymore, since as mentioned I flashed an official ruu.
So basically, I should still be able to receive OTA's from HTC right? I was wondering why my phone keeps telling me there's no update when the software number is 1.34 stock and not rooted. Shouldn't it notify me that there's an update at least regardless of whether I want to or not?
If you are not rooted, why did you downgrade to 1.34?
I also don't understand why you want to flash the RUU from a different region. If you aren't SuperCID and S-Off it won't work. Why not just flash the latest official RUU for your phone versions/region if you want to be updated and don't care about root?
I'm not sure why your OTA's don't work. I'm still on 1.34 (well, back to it), and I still get notifications to update.
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If you are not rooted, why did you downgrade to 1.34?
I also don't understand why you want to flash the RUU from a different region. If you aren't SuperCID and S-Off it won't work. Why not just flash the latest official RUU for your phone versions/region if you want to be updated and don't care about root?
I'm not sure why your OTA's don't work. I'm still on 1.34 (well, back to it), and I still get notifications to update.
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@redpoint73
I bought the phone from a friend of mine. I noticed that it had eng hboot and had s-off.
I have zero knowledge about rooting. When the gingerbread test rom for the desire z came out, I flashed the pc10img.zip via the bootloader, however since it was very buggy and laggy, I decided to flash stock desire z rom.
Having no knowledge about rooting I read some of the threads in this forum and learned that flashing an official rom i.e. the RUU would be the easiest way to return back to stock.
It worked, I am using stock rom. I experimented and found out that I can flash any of the RUU, so I chose any of the WWE release. I decided to flash an older firmware version specifically, the 1.34.707.1.
Now the problem is my phone doesn't prompt me with an update, even after checking in about phone > check for update.
I still have s-off but eng hboot is gone. To clarify I was not the one who rooted the phone, so I have no idea what to do.
Is it possible that the previous owner tweaked something in the phone that would absolutely prevent it from receiving OTA?
I am just worried since I have a feeling that the gingerbread OTA will be released in a few weeks since the update for the Desire HD is already out.
Please help and thank you again. I extremely as a NOOB!
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I am just worried since I have a feeling that the gingerbread OTA will be released in a few weeks since the update for the Desire HD is already out.
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I wouldn't worry about getting the official Gingerbread ROM OTA. It will probably be posted here or at shipped-roms.com long before you would get it OTA.
A while ago I rooted a friends phone so they could play with custom roms. I used the Unrevoked3 tools to do the root and I believe I did the S-off with Unrevoked forever. She doesn't really want to mess with it anymore and as a result of the root she is stuck on Froyo. What needs to be done in order to get her back to a state where she can recieve the OTA updates?
I'm not sure what prevents the OTA but off the top of my head it could be any or all of these:
Custom Recover
S-Off
Custom Rom
Updated Radio
She is using a Sense Rom currently (I believe Virtuous) as she wanted to make it look as similar to what she was used to before. I'm hoping to prevent wiping it as well if possible. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get this back to a point where she can get the Gingerbread update and possibly point me to the instructions on how to do it?
This will help you get back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786436
By doing this she will no longer have root and may not be able to regain root again.
If she wants a stock Gingerbread Rom, just flash the Stock Plus Gingerbread Rom in the dev section. It'd is a lot easier/faster and still have root. Also going back to stock for future updates may be pointless as this phone may no longer get any other updates.
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This will help you get back to stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786436
By doing this she will no longer have root and may not be able to regain root again.
If she wants a stock Gingerbread Rom, just flash the Stock Plus Gingerbread Rom in the dev section. It'd is a lot easier/faster and still have root. Also going back to stock for future updates may be pointless as this phone may no longer get any other updates.
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I checked out that thread but it looked old and it was a little confusing. What I really need to know is which component needs to replaced in order to get OTAs. I don't need the phone set to factory. In fact I would prefer to keep the current data in tact. I just need to allow the phone to receive the official gingerbread OTA. If that OTA removes root then that's fine. My friend just doesn't want to have to manually load updates going forward and she doesn't care about root.
Go here and download the Froyo RUU the PB31IMG version http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=22 . Then make sure the file is named PB31IMG and place it on the root of your SD Card boot in to Hboot, let it load and press volume up to accept the install and it'll do it's thing. I'm not sure if this will give you stock recovery, which you need to receive the OTA updates. If it does not get it here http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=28 and follow the same PB31IMG steps as I mentioned above (Make sure you delete the RUU PB31IMG file first ). Then just wait for the update. I think you can try the Giongerbread RUU as well and you will be good to go but I have never tried that one before.
I would probably just stick with root and get the stock plus rooted rom. The plus features alone are much much better then what the stock offers anyways.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260994
And if she is still on froyo then I would assume she still has the froyo radio, so don't forget to flash the new gingerbread radio to coincide with the new gingerbread rom you just flashed for her
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227215
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Of course if you would like to simply revert the phone back to stock with the newest OTA out, simply run this from your computer
http://www.multiupload.com/XF7EG5F2I7
Hope this helps....
here ya go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19895586&postcount=1
trevoryour said:
I checked out that thread but it looked old and it was a little confusing. What I really need to know is which component needs to replaced in order to get OTAs. I don't need the phone set to factory. In fact I would prefer to keep the current data in tact. I just need to allow the phone to receive the official gingerbread OTA. If that OTA removes root then that's fine. My friend just doesn't want to have to manually load updates going forward and she doesn't care about root.
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To receive the ota you need to have the stock recovery, and have all stock apps still installed and enabled. To get to complete stock you need to do an ruu. Either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. However this latest released ota is the final update our phones will ever officialy get, so you dont have to worry about future otas. That being said i would just do as others have sugested and flash one of the stock roms, either wildstangs ota rom or jermaines stock plus. Wildstangs is complete stock, and jermaines is stock with some cool features added. You can find them both in the dev section.
I'm currently running Android Revolution HD v11 (or maybe it's v9.7). My carrier, Optus Australia, seems to have started rolling out Jellybean which means I can finally get HBOOT v1.3.x. My question is, how do I get this update? I assume I need to re-lock the phone and rollback to my stock RUU before I'll receive the update? How do automatic OS updates work on android. I've never got one.
Yeah, you need to return to stock.
There are lots of threads about this.
You can run RUU, or restore a backup and stock recovery.