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Is it me or does it seem like Verizon is kind of sabotaging the Gnex in favor of the Rezound and RAZR? When I went into Best Buy today, they did NOT have the phone on display, and the only accesory they had was the ZAGG invisible shield. When I asked a salesperson did they sell out of them, they said they haven't heard much about the phone.
When I went into a Verizon store, there were all kinds of RAZR and REZOUND posters and accessories but NONE for the Gnex! It was sitting on the display with the Rezound and RAZR and that was it! I wanted to get a case and there were none.
Furthermore, I have not seen a single TV commercial for this phone while I ALWAYS see Rezound and RAZR commercials. Its almost as if Verizon does not want this phone to outsell the other two.
What are your thoughts on this?
I'm assuming that the "Droid" name carries a lot more weight with your average consumer and a much bigger paycheck from Motorola's marketing team.
I thought the same thing when I went into the Verizon location near my house to pick mine up. There were no advertising posters for the Gnex up at all. I also haven't seen any advertising for it anywhere else either. Come to think of it I haven't ever seen any TV adds for any nexus device they've always had bad marketing. It definitely seems that they don't want it to sell as well as the rezound or the razr.
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that's OK. I don't want a bunch on crummy nubs using my phone. Android is open source and the people who know what they are doing know what phone to buy.
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You haven't seen the TV commercials? There have actually been a lot. They've been spending big money, putting GN commercials in NFL games too.
But are you surprised they're not pushing it as hard as the RAZR in store? The RAZR is an easy sell to anyone who's had a droid device before. Familiar interface etc. whereas the GN is new and different.
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The nexus isn't a mass market device. That is part of the reason you don't see any major advertising for it.
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Also, in Canada we do have gnex commercials from bell. But virgin mobile which is a bell owned provider still has iPhone 4s posters all over their stores
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Goat_For_Sale said:
that's OK. I don't want a bunch on crummy nubs using my phone. Android is open source and the people who know what they are doing know what phone to buy.
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You're the reason why people are intimidated by Android devices and just buy iphone.
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Must be by location. My Verizon store had a full display model out next to all the other 4g phones and I've also seen commercials for the phone. Website also had it on their front page with the scrolling deals.
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I've seen TV commercials both in Chicago and in Dayton, Ohio.. I saw four yesterday actually. The Verizon stores in Chicago don't have nexus cases because they're all sold out..
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You haven't seen the TV commercials? There have actually been a lot. They've been spending big money, putting GN commercials in NFL games too.
But are you surprised they're not pushing it as hard as the RAZR in store? The RAZR is an easy sell to anyone who's had a droid device before. Familiar interface etc. whereas the GN is new and different.
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Yea guys, there are definitely TV ads... I just saw one a few hours ago on the Panthers-Saints game... They are very iPhone-esque as well...
Goat_For_Sale said:
that's OK. I don't want a bunch on crummy nubs using my phone. Android is open source and the people who know what they are doing know what phone to buy.
Android - making grown men pee sitting down since 2.0
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The more "noobs" that use your phone, the more market share it gains which leads to popularity, demand, support etc. You want your phone to get a dock? There needs to be demand for it.
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You haven't seen the TV commercials? There have actually been a lot. They've been spending big money, putting GN commercials in NFL games too.
But are you surprised they're not pushing it as hard as the RAZR in store? The RAZR is an easy sell to anyone who's had a droid device before. Familiar interface etc. whereas the GN is new and different.
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I saw a face unlock commercial with a kid sitting on the stairs, but the only other Google commercials I have seen lately were for Google+. There was a Beatboxing and a Bohemian Rhapsody commercial that had the Nexus in it, but I don't remember if it even mentioned the Nexus or focused more on Google+ Hangouts. I would like to have seen a lot more SGN/ICS commercials though for this phone launch just for the sake of accessories support (which only comes with device popularity i.e. the Droid line). I really want a horizontal dock for my nightstand. I saw it in a YouTube review from some .co.uk source, but I would really like to find it at the Verizon store so I can get my 30% discount.
The commercials I've seen for the GN are usually thrown in the middle of a generic Verizon lineup commercial with only 5 seconds of face time and no spec rundown. The one commercial I did see that places the GN in the center spot, Verizon portrayed the phone primarily as a google+ phone. No other attribute was given. Just gave the "circles" rundown in the social media app. If I didn't know anything about this phone and saw the commercial, I would of thought the GN to be a teenie-bopper phone. Primaily targeted to the early teen crowd.
I did notice a bunch of Nexus commercials during the Panthers game today.
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Oh okay, must be region specific then. Ive seen the circles commercial where they were using face unlock but that was only once. But I always see that silly commercial for the rezound with the craptastic and overrated Beats by Dre.
I wish my name was Matt Flynn's Beard.
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Verizon store by me is definitely not pushing this phone. I went in the day it came out and it was in the back with no special display. IPhone is up front with huge display with razr setup right by it with its own display.
I also walked in with my GSM nexus version a week prior to them releasing it and most of the workers did not know anything about it. Stupid move on Google and Samsung to make it exclusive on Verizon as they suck. I am just glad that the GSM version was pentaband.
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Goat_For_Sale said:
that's OK. I don't want a bunch on crummy nubs using my phone. Android is open source and the people who know what they are doing know what phone to buy.
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Good call! You know what you're doing if you have a Galaxy Nexus
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Verizon is BFF's with Motorola and their "Droid" lineup. So they are obviously going to push that ahead of everything else. As for the Rezound, beats a side, it is a great phone. Definitely a contendor for the Nexus(and the only contendor). Don't take it personal, that's just how Verizon does things(backwards, f'ed up).
i can see where the op is coming from but imo they want the iphone to sell over the others cuz the verizon stores ive been in look as if apple owns them (apple posters everywhere and ipad2 and iphone accessory stands on their own)
Hi,
I currently have the D3, my third Droid phone and was looking at the Verizon Nexus. From many threads here and on the Verizon forums, some seems to have significant problems with this phone. I know the forums usually tend to have a lot more user complaints.
My use is about 2500 min/mo on the phone and I use it throughout the day for email, browsing, maps, etc. The blogs and other reviews tend to be favorable. So, would you buy this phone again, wait for 4.0.5, or just look at something else?
I'm also considering the Razr Maxx but Motorola is so slow in getting updates to its phones, if at all, I"m hesitant to get a 4th Motorola Droid. And, there's always the iphone4S...
I always wonder if companies are paying people to post messages like these on competitors forums and then I remember reading that they in fact do just that.
Should I do you wrong with that assumption mgerbasio, I politely suggest less asking and more reading on this forum.
I would buy this phone again. With Verizon you do have choice. The updates unfortunately for the GNex on Verizon will not be coming with lightning speed either. The Razr Max is a good alternative but I would not get anything now without ICS. Who knows when the update will come.
Valynor said:
I always wonder if companies are paying people to post messages like these on competitors forums and then I remember reading that they in fact do just that.
Should I do you wrong with that assumption mgerbasio, I politely suggest less asking and more reading on this forum.
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He has been a member of XDA for 8 years. 4 more than you. I really doubt he is what you say he is.
mgerbasio said:
Hi,
I currently have the D3, my third Droid phone and was looking at the Verizon Nexus. From many threads here and on the Verizon forums, some seems to have significant problems with this phone. I know the forums usually tend to have a lot more user complaints.
My use is about 2500 min/mo on the phone and I use it throughout the day for email, browsing, maps, etc. The blogs and other reviews tend to be favorable. So, would you buy this phone again, wait for 4.0.5, or just look at something else?
I'm also considering the Razr Maxx but Motorola is so slow in getting updates to its phones, if at all, I"m hesitant to get a 4th Motorola Droid. And, there's always the iphone4S...
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I just got my Verizon gnex last week and am enjoying it so far. It does tend to get a weaker network signal than my Droid Charge did but still works everywhere the charge did. Minus that I have no other issues yet and based off my small usage so far would recommend it. I also compared it to the Razr but I just like Samsung phones better in general.
Wow, thanks for the fast replies.
I wish someone would pay me for posting in forums, but no, just trying to get some information. If you're new to this phone and read the first several pages here and at Verizon (especially), you get a sense that maybe this phone isn't quite ready for prime time. Yet, the reviews and blogs have been favorable.
I'm not that concerned that the updates are delayed a month, but with non-Nexus phones, you're lucky to see any major OS update. Motorola has terrific hardware but they have no policy about updates and customer communication is POOR with no follow through. My D3 probably won't get ICS and it is less than a year old. Had the Razr received ICS as rumored this week, I would have gone with that phone.
My D3 performs OK but I had to get rid of the live wallpaper and most of the widgets so it is reasonably responsive. I'm sure if I root and delete the bloat it would be better. The D4 battery is too small for me so just looking around right now.
Well I'll have 14 days to try it so maybe I'll give it a shot.
I also have this phone for a about a week now it has some issues that annoy me like the keyboard word input lag and signal strength but am sure its all software issues which will be fix soon. At this point I dont even care what phone comes out am satisfied.
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The only issue i have is its pentile, which a sfw update cant fix...so i have no signal issues
If you like android, I wouldn't leave for an iPhone. I think you'll regret it. Outside of that, I can't offer any other suggestions because I haven't decided myself what to pull the trigger on. I'm stuck between the rezound and the gnex. Or the incredible 4G if it does actually drop this month. And assuming it actually has a bigger battery. But I do know that a couple of demos in the store that I played with had major "burn in", if that's what it's called, and I don't know how, or if that is frequent. That does kinda bother me though.
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If you like android, I wouldn't leave for an iPhone. I think you'll regret it. Outside of that, I can't offer any other suggestions because I haven't decided myself what to pull the trigger on. I'm stuck between the rezound and the gnex. Or the incredible 4G if it does actually drop this month. And assuming it actually has a bigger battery. But I do know that a couple of demos in the store that I played with had major "burn in", if that's what it's called, and I don't know how, or if that is frequent. That does kinda bother me though.
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Amoled screens do get image retention a lot but it fades after just a few seconds of changed screen. Like burn in in that you can see the previous screen but goes away quickly, are you sure this isn't what you saw? I have personally never seen one with actual burn in.
I didn't play with them long enough for them to change, but it was clearly visible over the screen I was on. So it does go away? Not like the old plasma tvs that were permanently "burnt"?
Pentile screen doesn't bother me, I really like the screen on my Motorola D3 which is pentile, it is very readable indoors and outdoors even in bright sunlight.
I'd rather not get the iphone but I wouldn't rule it out. I had the original ipad, then bought the Xoom, now have the ipad3. I'd much rather have android but the screen on the ipad3 makes all the other limitations something I can live with. The iphone screen will probably be too small though. The D3 gets very laggy with widgets and live wallpaper so now my screen has mostly icons and I'm thinking if this is the case, I may as well have nice looking icons like a iphone.
If I was going to wait, it would be for the Droid Fighter.
Thanks again, I'm planning on heading to my local Verizon store on Monday to pick up the Nexus.
After having my Fire phone for almost 3 weeks, I am relatively happy with it.
It is a slim phone, watching video on it is a pleasure, music sounds great. If you are an Amazon Prime member, the xray feature on some TV programs which is linked in with IMDB is just way to cool.. I think this way cooler than "Dynamic Perspective," which may be a feature yet to be exploited by apps and technology which are NOT yet in the Amazon appstore.
Amazon Prime Music is being way undersold by Jeff Bezos in promoting his new phone. Why, I do not know!? From the man who wants to sell you everything, this is a big marketing mistake in the world of iphones, itunes, ipods!!!! And for God's sakes, he owns Audible now, he should make that bargain basement now too, while he is playing Monopoly to gain control of absolutely everything fun.
Granted, my phone is more fun since gaining root, that is one reason I bought it, that and one year of extra Prime, the chance to throwaway a locked Samsung Galaxay S3 with crappy Boost mobile service. I never thought it was that great a phone, anyway.
Unlimited cloud storage of photos.
And by the way, Does anyone listen to all the iPhone fanboys complain about horrible battery life on their latest iteration of the iPhone? I thought Apple took care of that early on? All I'm saying, this is the FIRST Amazon phone. You don't have to be a fan, you can still love whatever iteration of iPhone out there (and still be apron-stringed to i-Tunes) or love your favorite Android...
Yes complaints that Amazon wants to sell you a store and not a phone, I ***** about that every time I buy a new PC with bundled so ftware.
To me, an iPhone is more paralyzing than either a Fire phone or generic android, and a Fire phone, rooted, is the best of android devices, but still some annoying features.
I have to agree with you. I work for o2 and I had the device 4 weeks before the realise date for 3 days.
Have to say I loved it, It just oozes pure quality much like, and I hate to say it... iPhone's except the build quality.
When I was using it all I could think of was "this would be amazing with the full play store on".
Now I can see Root access, it may not be a dream.
I have told a lot of people about this phone, me being very surprised.
A little hard to get your head around the OS butas Dilbert says, Its a store with a built in phone.
From an analytic point of view, Amazon have missed the boat on this.
A good 55% of consumers have brand loyalty, 20% follow them, 10-15% have the same but can not afford to have their 1st choice so opt for the closest and probably oldest. The rest take anything.
Now you might get some Kindle users wanting 1 but most would still rather have the iPhone etc,.....
They should target them 10-15% in price but not at £399.99 ($650). If I lost my phone or didn't have the money to get a new HTC or iPhone, Had £400 in my pocket............ I'd go and buy the Moto G2.
If they're planning on making money from their stores, they should focus on that lower the price and let word of mouth do the talking because they have the hardware to back it up.
Great phone, great first attempt.
What do you think?
I have read it will cost in the US 650$, how much will it be in the European in €?
What do you say about a waterproof Pixel and will it have a hard button home key?
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What do you think?
I have read it will cost in the US 650$, how much will it be in the European in â?¬?
What do you say about a waterproof Pixel and will it have a hard button home key?
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Not waterproof
www.androidpolice.com/2016/09/21/googles-pixel-phones-will-be-ip53-rated-meaning-no-dunking-your-pixel-or-hosing-it-down
Can't see there being a home button either.
Google doesn't do physical or capacitive buttons on the front.
A home button isn't entirely impossible. Case leaks include one on the front, oddly, and the actual photo leaks I've seen have the same area blurred. It wouldn't make sense, but there is evidence to support it. As for waterproofing, it would make sense for them to, but if we haven't seen any info on it yet, it's probably not going to happen
I imagine maybe there is a fingerprint sensor or something along those lines in the front below the screen embedded in the glass
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I imagine maybe there is a fingerprint sensor or something along those lines in the front below the screen embedded in the glass
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The fingerprint sensor is actually on the back of the phone. Since the speakers are bottom firing, maybe they will take up more space than standard speakers?
Man, I REALLY hope they put a MicroSD.
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Man, I REALLY hope they put a MicroSD.
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It's funny because this year it looks like expandable storage is the least thing everybody seem to worry about.
Regarding the price: If the US price is really $650 then I'd expect a similar € price here in Europe. They'd have a hard time convincing us to pay a higher price than most flagship smartphones (e.g. Galaxy S7) without offering some of the features they offer (waterproof, expandable storage)
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What do you think?
I have read it will cost in the US 650$, how much will it be in the European in €?
What do you say about a waterproof Pixel and will it have a hard button home key?
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Probably the same amount (649) but in Euro`s. If all the rumors are correct this will be a expensive device, the XL will cost even more off course maybe even up to 700-750 euro`s, its not waterproof, non expandable storage and rooting Nougat will be harder and harder as Google is gradualy locking down android to obtain root.
I will not pay this amount for a Google phone considering i bought the blue Honor 8 for 399 euro`s wich overall is a great device with a killer camera and fingerprint scanner.
The rumor is that the smaller Pixel will start at $650. No one seems to know what the extra storage will cost, but since Google is trying to replicate Apple's pricing, I would expect an Apple-like matrix. That would put the fatter sailfish at $750. The Pixel XL would then come in at $770 and $870. That also puts them roughly in parity with the Samsung Galaxy S7, but with a larger screen. Of course, the difference is that you can add a comparatively cheap (read, less than $100) SD card to a S7. It is less than the $900 asking price for a Note 7, but it also lacks the stylus and has a smaller display.
I'm hoping this is off, but at this point it's looking pretty likely.
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It's funny because this year it looks like expandable storage is the least thing everybody seem to worry about.
Regarding the price: If the US price is really $650 then I'd expect a similar € price here in Europe. They'd have a hard time convincing us to pay a higher price than most flagship smartphones (e.g. Galaxy S7) without offering some of the features they offer (waterproof, expandable storage)
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Now that Samsung gave me 4 256gb SD cards Ill be stuck with MicroSD card phones for a bit
If this thing is over 600 bucks nobody better buy it. Once we do the line will be drawn and they will never turn back.
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If this thing is over 600 bucks nobody better buy it. Once we do the line will be drawn and they will never turn back.
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Considering that the Nexus 6 was $699, I'd say that that line has already been surpassed.
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Considering that the Nexus 6 was $699, I'd say that that line has already been surpassed.
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The Nexus 6 didn't exactly fly off the shelves either. Part of that may be the lack of demand for such an enormous device, but I suspect a big part of that was the price tag and Google's typical mucking up of marketing campaigns.
The only Android OEM to maintain those kinds of flagship prices successfully has been Samsung. Everyone else has either had to back off (LG) or suffered poor sales performance (hTC).
Now, in their defense, Google always intended the Nexus devices to be "developer phones", so they probably didn't care too much that the 6 wasn't exactly the hottest ticket going.
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The Nexus 6 didn't exactly fly off the shelves either. Part of that may be the lack of demand for such an enormous device, but I suspect a big part of that was the price tag and Google's typical mucking up of marketing campaigns.
The only Android OEM to maintain those kinds of flagship prices successfully has been Samsung. Everyone else has either had to back off (LG) or suffered poor sales performance (hTC).
Now, in their defense, Google always intended the Nexus devices to be "developer phones", so they probably didn't care too much that the 6 wasn't exactly the hottest ticket going.
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What do you base that on?
The reality is quite the contrary, Nexus 6 sales *exceeded* expectations quite dramatically. They were persistently short on meeting demands until well into 2015 -- first sell date was in November 2014. That doesn't happen when you are having a hard time selling them.
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What do you base that on?
The reality is quite the contrary, Nexus 6 sales *exceeded* expectations quite dramatically. They were persistently short on meeting demands until well into 2015 -- first sell date was in November 2014. That doesn't happen when you are having a hard time selling them.
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Google themselves admitted that the Nexus 6 (and the 9) didn't meet their sales expectations, to the point where they impacted revenue statements in 2015. They sold reasonably well, but they weren't barn burners. Now, part of that is the fact that they couldn't keep sufficient stock, which I chalk up to Google's "typical mucking up" of consumer launches, and part of that was the fact that the 6 wasn't sold through carriers.
I suspect the latter is probably the bigger factor. It's a lot easier to charge $800+ for a flagship when the customer can finance it through their phone bill than it is to extend that as a separate loan. As such, it's possible the Pixel phones may be able to pull off the higher pricing now that the carriers are on board with selling them.
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Google themselves admitted that the Nexus 6 (and the 9) didn't meet their sales expectations, to the point where they impacted revenue statements in 2015. They sold reasonably well, but they weren't barn burners. Now, part of that is the fact that they couldn't keep sufficient stock, which I chalk up to Google's "typical mucking up" of consumer launches, and part of that was the fact that the 6 wasn't sold through carriers.
I suspect the latter is probably the bigger factor. It's a lot easier to charge $800+ for a flagship when the customer can finance it through their phone bill than it is to extend that as a separate loan. As such, it's possible the Pixel phones may be able to pull off the higher pricing now that the carriers are on board with selling them.
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When did "google themselves" say that? Especially since everybody and his brother and his uncle and his cousin and his ..... has a nexus 9.....
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When did "google themselves" say that? Especially since everybody and his brother and his uncle and his cousin and his ..... has a nexus 9.....
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Look, I'm not anti-Google, and I actually liked the Nexus line, so I have no particular axe to grind. However, you will find that in 2015, Google CFO Patrick Pichette stated as much in the Q1 guidance to investors. Additionally, Motorola has independently discussed the fact that the Nexus 6 didn't perform as well in the market as they would have liked, so it's not like this is some new piece of information. Now, anecdotally, I have only seen a handful of Nexus 6 devices roaming wild, and I work in a very tech-oriented town. Instead, I see what you might expect - mostly iPhones, Galaxy S6/7s and Notes, with a smattering of older Nexus devices - particularly the 5. I saw a guy with a 6P the other day in the parking lot, but I only remember that because it's the first one I've seen so far.
I have yet to see a single Nexus 9 in my town. When I do see a tablet in the wild here, it is almost invariably an iPad or iPad pro, though I have seen a few Galaxy tabs and Nexus 7's.
Now, no one is calling these devices failures, or bad. However, they didn't sell to Google or Motorola's expectations for a variety of reasons, and it is likely why the Nexus 6 was the last actual 6" Nexus device made.
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Look, I'm not anti-Google, and I actually liked the Nexus line, so I have no particular axe to grind. However, you will find that in 2015, Google CFO Patrick Pichette stated as much in the Q1 guidance to investors. Additionally, Motorola has independently discussed the fact that the Nexus 6 didn't perform as well in the market as they would have liked, so it's not like this is some new piece of information. Now, anecdotally, I have only seen a handful of Nexus 6 devices roaming wild, and I work in a very tech-oriented town. Instead, I see what you might expect - mostly iPhones, Galaxy S6/7s and Notes, with a smattering of older Nexus devices - particularly the 5. I saw a guy with a 6P the other day in the parking lot, but I only remember that because it's the first one I've seen so far.
I have yet to see a single Nexus 9 in my town. When I do see a tablet in the wild here, it is almost invariably an iPad or iPad pro, though I have seen a few Galaxy tabs and Nexus 7's.
Now, no one is calling these devices failures, or bad. However, they didn't sell to Google or Motorola's expectations for a variety of reasons, and it is likely why the Nexus 6 was the last actual 6" Nexus device made.
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So you're taking BUSINESS EXCUSES as fact? That's silly.
Anyone hear anything about a notification light?
I really miss this from my Nexus 5 and enabling it on my Nexus 6 was a pain. The 5X and 6P have it. I would rather have a notification light than the ambient display.
I will consistently miss the "pulsing" ambient display notification, or when I pick up the phone to put it in my pocket etc, the motion will turn on the screen and I'll accidentally activate some app on the phone or change a setting accidentally.
I'd rather not have the screen on unless I turn it on.
-J
I've been a huge fan of the Pixel since the original XL. Dealing with this phone from day one has been a struggle. The voice dictation is terrible. The worst I've ever had on a pixel. Also the phone is my daily driver and sometimes I can't even work with this phone. Really holding out for an update to fix the phone so that I can love it, but I think I'm more patient than most. I feel like replying with a real world experience to every made by Google tweet, but I'm not out to jeopardize their business and I understand new tech takes a little while to achieve its full potential. But there needs to be some heads rolling at Google. There's been issues with every Google Pixel launch and this I think is the worst from my experience. I'm glad some others aren't experiencing what I'm going through. Lucky dogs
MKBHD Slams Google Pixel 6 Pro's "Bad Experience"
YouTuber MKBHD tweets that he's done with the Pixel 6 Pro and will no longer recommend it to his viewers. That's not great for Google.
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Mine hasn't been buggy but it's good his statement made headlines. Maybe Google will get off their azz and fix these problems.
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I've been a huge fan of the Pixel since the original XL. Dealing with this phone from day one has been a struggle. The voice dictation is terrible. The worst I've ever had on a pixel. Also the phone is my daily driver and sometimes I can't even work with this phone. Really holding out for an update to fix the phone so that I can love it, but I think I'm more patient than most. I feel like replying with a real world experience to every made by Google tweet, but I'm not out to jeopardize their business and I understand new tech takes a little while to achieve its full potential. But there needs to be some heads rolling at Google. There's been issues with every Google Pixel launch and this I think is the worst from my experience. I'm glad some others aren't experiencing what I'm going through. Lucky dogs
MKBHD Slams Google Pixel 6 Pro's "Bad Experience"
YouTuber MKBHD tweets that he's done with the Pixel 6 Pro and will no longer recommend it to his viewers. That's not great for Google.
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I'm one of those lucky dogs, I guess
Side note: I don't pay much mind to reviewers such as MKBHD...I like to judge things for myself
I'll say the same thing I said in another thread...
The Pixel 6 is a new platform on new hardware. There are going to be teething issues. Expecting perfection isn't realistic. Google has been using Snapdragon SoC's since the Nexus 4, and this is their first foray using their own hardware. When Apple introduced the A7 in the iPhone 5S, they had the same problem - a lot of stability and feature issues.
Remember that OEMs have to make compromises in order to get everything they want into a reasonable package. Bigger battery means less space for the electronics, and heat becomes a bigger problem. Bigger display and more powerful processor means more battery drain. With handheld devices, weight and size are significant issues as well.
If you want stability, there are other OEMs to choose from that are sticking to established hardware - such as Samsung, using both Qualcomm and their own Exynos systems. The Pixel series has been pretty solid up to this point, so while the 6 and 6 Pro have certainly had a lot of issues, the next generation will be improved, as will the next after that, and so on.
When you buy a Pixel, it's for vanilla Android with the Google experience. Don't expect much more than that.
why do people care what he thinks
i not had that many issues and I am on the December firmware.
battery life is main issue for me but as its a new SOC and needs time to tune it along with new A12 I expected this
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why do people care what he thinks
i not had that many issues and I am on the December firmware.
battery life is main issue for me but as its a new SOC and needs time to tune it along with new A12 I expected this
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Probably the same reason stupid challenges trend on social media?
jayr04 said:
Mine hasn't been buggy but it's good his statement made headlines. Maybe Google will get off their azz and fix these problems.
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man, i really wish my experience was like yours. i bought into Google's P6 hype for sure... i purchased the phone for dual-sim connectivity so i could use one device for my personal and biz numbers. i started with an AT&T version, returned it due to connectivity issues, and purchased an unlocked version that "seemed" to work a little better. however, inconsistent connectivity (no cellular signal, dropped calls, dropped wifi) forced me to put the phone away for now, and switch to a dual-sim S21 Ultra. i'm willing to give Google a chance to address the connectivity issues, but my confidence in their ability to do so is pretty low right now.
bouchigo said:
I'm one of those lucky dogs, I guess
Side note: I don't pay much mind to reviewers such as MKBHD...I like to judge things for myself
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Who? Twitter? I never go there, same as FB, Instagram etc.
Purveyors of disinformation and censorship, at the best.
Really this is Google's doing and not singularly the P6 Pro itself; Android 12 is a huge part of the problem. Android 11 was no gem either.
Following Apple's lead like a lost puppy was one of their biggest mistakes. Google Android degrades their market edge by doing so and ultimately fails their customers.
A large part of Google's problem is that they are also control freaks. They want to push their cloud services at all costs even if it conflicts with the customer's best interests. They learned that from MS.
Who needs another bloody iPhone knock off?
Nekromantik said:
why do people care what he thinks
i not had that many issues and I am on the December firmware.
battery life is main issue for me but as its a new SOC and needs time to tune it along with new A12 I expected this
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I don't even know who that is, nor do I really care. However, and this is a big but, if he has a following of thousands of users who buy phones for multiple family members and go on social media platforms then it becomes a problem. Not here because it seems no one is on social media round these parts, but this is the extreme minority. So call it where it belongs, the phone is buggy.. big time. I'm not talking about battery life either, I'm talking about not being able to make a phone call or receive a text. That is major. If I want stability I go with one of the big guns, Apple or Google. Pure iPhone experience and pure Android experience. There is nothing pure about this Pixel 6 series. OEMs compromising and releasing a device that is obviously flawed is not a great model for success. I don't want a Samsung or an iPhone. I want a Pixel. There is absolutely no reason I should put up with a test device when they touted this as the phone of the year. Next generation doesn't interest me right about now. I want a phone with security updates that are current and a device that always can receive a phone call and text. It is not the Pixel 6 no matter how many excuses you can come up with.
If this was a test device at least tell me that. If they are working out problems fitting stuff in then let me know. I easily could have kept my pristine P5 but I was led to believe this was a finished product and, I repeat, the phone of the year. the iPhone killer the every other phone killer. Well the P6 just got killed by their own hands and if you can't admit it then nothing I can say will change your mind.
I got a P6 Pro at launch and I haven't had any major issues or bugs. I'm on Dec update and I think I experienced the network drop thing only twice. I restarted my phone and everything was back to normal.
No other issues though..
d.cortez said:
man, i really wish my experience was like yours. i bought into Google's P6 hype for sure... i purchased the phone for dual-sim connectivity so i could use one device for my personal and biz numbers. i started with an AT&T version, returned it due to connectivity issues, and purchased an unlocked version that "seemed" to work a little better. however, inconsistent connectivity (no cellular signal, dropped calls, dropped wifi) forced me to put the phone away for now, and switch to a dual-sim S21 Ultra. i'm willing to give Google a chance to address the connectivity issues, but my confidence in their ability to do so is pretty low right now.
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i was on s21 ultra and switch to pixel6 pro if iam kinda sad? yes definetly and iam not big fan of samsung but compare to p6 pro samsung was way better
I bought the unlocked version, and I've had no problems to speak of. My former daily driver was an iPhone 12 Pro Max. Been switching my VZ SIM back and forth to see which one I'll stick with.
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Who? Twitter? I never go there, same as FB, Instagram etc.
Purveyors of disinformation and censorship, at the best.
Really this is Google's doing and not singularly the P6 Pro itself; Android 12 is a huge part of the problem. Android 11 was no gem either.
Following Apple's lead like a lost puppy was one of their biggest mistakes. Google Android degrades their market edge by doing so and ultimately fails their customers.
A large part of Google's problem is that they are also control freaks. They want to push their cloud services at all costs even if it conflicts with the customer's best interests. They learned that from MS.
Who needs another bloody iPhone knock off?
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My concern is that Google may not find a solution for the P6P reception problems and will have a Nexus 6P issue on its hands. Lawsuits caused many Nexus 6P to be replaced with Pixels so in theory it could happen again but 10 months is a long way from now.
Somebody other has problem with photo quality and strange artifacts? Here look in bright part ....pls dont be a stupid and dont say its becouse saturation or something photo is normal standard photo with no setup right from camera
I'm on Dec build in UK (not sure if that makes a difference but O2 network), I have had small teething issues but nothing like some of the major bugs that have been mentioned. Are we using different variants or something?
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My concern is that Google may not find a solution for the P6P reception problems and will have a Nexus 6P issue on its hands. Lawsuits caused many Nexus 6P to be replaced with Pixels so in theory it could happen again but 10 months is a long way from now.
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Please no!
bobby janow said:
I don't even know who that is, nor do I really care. However, and this is a big but, if he has a following of thousands of users who buy phones for multiple family members and go on social media platforms then it becomes a problem. Not here because it seems no one is on social media round these parts, but this is the extreme minority. So call it where it belongs, the phone is buggy.. big time. I'm not talking about battery life either, I'm talking about not being able to make a phone call or receive a text. That is major. If I want stability I go with one of the big guns, Apple or Google. Pure iPhone experience and pure Android experience. There is nothing pure about this Pixel 6 series. OEMs compromising and releasing a device that is obviously flawed is not a great model for success. I don't want a Samsung or an iPhone. I want a Pixel. There is absolutely no reason I should put up with a test device when they touted this as the phone of the year. Next generation doesn't interest me right about now. I want a phone with security updates that are current and a device that always can receive a phone call and text. It is not the Pixel 6 no matter how many excuses you can come up with.
If this was a test device at least tell me that. If they are working out problems fitting stuff in then let me know. I easily could have kept my pristine P5 but I was led to believe this was a finished product and, I repeat, the phone of the year. the iPhone killer the every other phone killer. Well the P6 just got killed by their own hands and if you can't admit it then nothing I can say will change your mind.
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He's got 15.2 million subscribers on YouTube. But I agree with you. You would think Google put a little more resources behind it, especially with their big marketing push.
I have a typo and almost every single sentence when doing voice dictation. Maybe I have a stroke happening and my speech is the issue but I'm heavily dependent on it and have been relying on it for years without a problem.
It's just one of the many bugs I'm dealing with, but by no means the end of the world... I ran the A12 betas on my 4XL and it was a rather good experience. Basically all the new features I use specific to the 6pro are broken. I'm hoping that January will be our lucky month
The only issue I have is a bluetooth audio streaming. I need to reconnect it one or two times to make it work.
yeah my second Pixel 6 pro went back to google yesterday, I have had issues with both 6 pro`s I have had, so I`m back to my 9 pro for now. guess wait and see what happens with the S22 ultra or the 10 pro.