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Sometimes I Really Hate Samsung

Usually not, but damn. Last week my original GNex had it's radio's take a dump. After 11 solid months, I rebooted one night and had data, but voice never came back. So I put everything back stock and walked into Verizon and paid $15 to have a replacement overnighted to me.
Now, a week later, I've come to the conclusion that my replacement is fubared. I've never seen a device experience sleep of death + turning into an oven so quickly and consistently before. It's good for 30, maybe 60 minutes tops before it craps out. This is awesome when your phone is your alarm clock.
So here I go again, getting ready to waltz back into the Verizon store and do the same song and dance again. Pay $15, get a phone on Tuesday, probably have something massively wrong, rinse and repeat. Hey, devices take a crap from time to time, and luckily mine did while still under warranty, but I'm taking picks on how many replacement units I have to go through before one finally sticks.
My guess is the 3rd replacement is a charm. Who wants the over?
Those of you who have gone through the replacement fiasco with Samsung, how many tries did it take you to get a good one?

Why do you pay when you have still warranty?
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mariosraptor said:
Why do you pay when you have still warranty?
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Shipping to have it overnighted. It's also awesome that my local store doesn't toss out loaner phones while you wait (It'd make it easy to avoid that whole shipping thing). Maybe I'll call Verizon Tech Support just to bug them about.

no issues at all with mine...
I love Samsung personally

OOOh, free overnight shipping. Thanks Big Red!
Hopefully the next one is a charm because honestly, I don't know what I'd do without a Nexus device on Verizon's network. The alternatives make me cringe.

why is there no option for none

Read the last line of the OP.
I'm just curious to know if getting bum replacements is a "normal" thing because for a phone that went through a "100 point inspection", well, they dropped the ball on this one.

KWKSLVR said:
Read the last line of the OP.
I'm just curious to know if getting bum replacements is a "normal" thing because for a phone that went through a "100 point inspection", well, they dropped the ball on this one.
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Getting my third in the mail tomorrow Last one had ridiculous sensitivity issues, we'll see what the next one brings.
And why don't you just call em up instead of going in to the store? I keep my phone and they send me a refurb in the mail. The first phone was USPS, but after that one was crap they began overnighting it via FedEx.
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I went through 4 before I got my refurb, then I promptly sold it for a GSM model. That's one thing that I have to hand it to Verizon for, they were really good once I got the 1st defective one. I had 4 at one time, most overnighted at no cost and no fees or holds.
They did try everything they could to not send me one though... Unlike Google who were more then happy to send me multiple N7's.
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I had to replace one because of dirt under the screen even though its new and heat issues, the replacement was perfect and never get hot under normal use. I also bought one recently and it has heat issue and poor screen as well, but I'll live with it for the price. Its sort of a luck thing with this device, especially a lottery with AMOLED screen. I was going to get the N4 but it seem to also have lots of little issues on its own, such as getting too hot, I really hate phones getting overheat.I'm still waiting on confirmation on the USB OTG too.

After reading this it makes me think I need to bug Asurion tomorrow, I had to get an insurance replacement so I have to go through them for warranty now, they are definitely more strict on some things but like 3 minutes of complaining about signal got me a new one once already. The current one gets EXTREMELY hot under even normal use, so hot that it is uncomfortable to hold and definitely would be uncomfortable up against your face.

thesoldier said:
Getting my third in the mail tomorrow Last one had ridiculous sensitivity issues, we'll see what the next one brings.
And why don't you just call em up instead of going in to the store? I keep my phone and they send me a refurb in the mail. The first phone was USPS, but after that one was crap they began overnighting it via FedEx.
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The first time I went in, I was hoping that they'd have one in the back they could swap out for me, or a loaner phone (fat chance, I know). My job pretty much requires a working cell phone. I'm kind of surprised that Verizon was so willing to send a replacement out in just a few minutes. Granted, I don't know what alternative they'd have. There's no real way to troubleshoot SOD issues. My main concern is just not having to go through a massive fiasco running through multiple devices, especially with an 8 day vacation coming up.
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After reading this it makes me think I need to bug Asurion tomorrow, I had to get an insurance replacement so I have to go through them for warranty now, they are definitely more strict on some things but like 3 minutes of complaining about signal got me a new one once already. The current one gets EXTREMELY hot under even normal use, so hot that it is uncomfortable to hold and definitely would be uncomfortable up against your face.
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Well, if it's still under warranty, I'd jump on it.

Let's see... My first nexus has a seriously bad screen. I shipped it out the same day I got it. Got my replacement (#2) and the screen was worse than the first one. So I sent that bad and got another one (#3). This one had the same issue as OP. Radios wouldn't work....no voice or data and the phone got really hot. Enough to where I couldn't hold it to my face. So I sent that one in and they sent me a Samsung Stratosphere (#4 replacement). Sent that in and got the nexus I currently have making 5 replacements (4 with nexuses). I also went through Verizon...
Good luck

I had to replace one about ~8 months ago for screen ghosting. I was really satisfied with the replacement until now because the ghosting is back on the replacement. I'm contemplating switching to T-Mobile though, so I dunno if I'm going to attempt to replace this one.
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RoyJ said:
Let's see... My first nexus has a seriously bad screen. I shipped it out the same day I got it. Got my replacement (#2) and the screen was worse than the first one. So I sent that bad and got another one (#3). This one had the same issue as OP. Radios wouldn't work....no voice or data and the phone got really hot. Enough to where I couldn't hold it to my face. So I sent that one in and they sent me a Samsung Stratosphere (#4 replacement). Sent that in and got the nexus I currently have making 5 replacements (4 with nexuses). I also went through Verizon...
Good luck
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Well that sucks. My screens have been great. Well, that, or I'm not picky. The second replacement seems rock solid so far. Good data speeds, strong signal, solid screen, solid GPS and no SOD/Overheating. Maybe I've lucked out...but I'm not uncrossing my fingers.

I've been through 5+ Nexi already. Tec Asurion is totally worth the $6.99 per month! Free overnight shipping FTW.

Well, so much for Replacement #2. I highly doubt it's the sim card.
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KWKSLVR said:
Well, so much for Replacement #2. I highly doubt it's the sim card.
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Lol why? Seems to me that 2 separate pieces of one HW with a common issue (signal) and only one other thing in common (SIM card) makes the one other thing the most likely suspect...
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Because I'm not that lucky.

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Because I'm not that lucky.
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Thinking you're missing the forest for the trees.
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How many considering returning it back to Verizon?

We know that Verizon has gimped this device. We know Verizon has sold app space on our device storage to the highest bidder. Yes we could disable apps and get around a lot of things. But Verizon has literally treated as FOOLS. Is it all worth it?
We have a 14 day return policy. In my case I have 90 days thru Costco (I believe).
How many if you are seriously considering returning it?
I have until Friday Sept 2nd for my 14 days.
It's amazing how much I had enjoyed the OP3. Now I'm seriously considering throwing the phone back in Verizon's face (figuratively of course).
How many of you are considering returning?

Why return when you can Odin TMO or AT&T firmware since the hardware is the same for all carriers? The only feature I wanted was Samsung cloud and that is now doable and working for me. BThe rest of the features disabled are minimal IMHO.
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I bought the device thru Verizon at Costco. If I terminate the line with Verizon I have to give the device back or pay it off.
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androidbuff123 said:
I bought the device thru Verizon at Costco. If I terminate the line with Verizon I have to give the device back or pay it off.
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Understood. Was just trying to provide an option otherwise. [emoji4]
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Will it work on Verizon if I flash tmo or sprint thru Odin?
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androidbuff123 said:
Will it work on Verizon if I flash tmo or sprint thru Odin?
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No, they don't support the same bands I believe. Unless someone finds a way to enable them, you could always go with the N930U when it comes out.

TBH I always consider returning anything. Then the 14 days comes and goes...
Look, it's only been a week and there's already root. Even if it's a pain in the arse to do, you have it. That may be close to a record.
Compared to the Note 5 which hasn't been touched. Look how long the Note 4 took to get somewhere.
We could only hope for a way to unlock the bootloader.
But until then, at least there is a way to root the device and it's actually a bonafide root. None of this temporary stuff.
I'm sure this cross flashing stuff will get patched in a future release.
But it's always a challenge at first.
I liked the hardware and options when the S7E came out. Then as I used the phone it started pissing me off. That one I regretted keeping past the return. When I got my GearVR (finally got it in June!) I broke out my Note 5 and used it with that. Then I realized how much I missed the Note 5 and started using it again and put the S7E in a drawer.
Now that the Note 7 is here I'm finding it has the features I like in the Note 5 with the features of the S7E minus its shortcomings. (especially the over sensitive screen and edge panels!). I do wish they stuck with the 16MP sensor. HOWEVER, the camera software on the Note 7, particularly in professional mode, is superior to any Samsung device prior. Being able to adjust shutter speed while shooting video rocks!

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No, they don't support the same bands I believe. Unless someone finds a way to enable them, you could always go with the N930U when it comes out.
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Or flash the U firmware on the VZW when it's released like many did on the S7E.
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cpufrost said:
TBH I always consider returning anything. Then the 14 days comes and goes...
Look, it's only been a week and there's already root.
Now that the Note 7 is here I'm finding it has the features I like in the Note 5 with the features of the S7E minus its shortcomings. (especially the over sensitive screen and edge panels!). I do wish they stuck with the 16MP sensor. HOWEVER, the camera software on the Note 7, particularly in professional mode, is superior to any Samsung device prior. Being able to adjust shutter speed while shooting video rocks!
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I agree. This phone improves upon the S7E. Like you, I always buy with the intention of returning but the Note is a keeper and will be my daily driver. I'll attempt root tomorrow and see how it goes. I like the fact we can always Odin back to stock and maybe I'll try the TMO firmware since I have a TMO sim.
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Actually returned mine day 7. May buy another, but right now I'm sticking with my note 4

tattooguy21 said:
Actually returned mine day 7. May buy another, but right now I'm sticking with my note 4
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What were your reasons for returning?
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Never.. I love this thing.. I really didn't think I would.. But even with them messing with things(i consider them like 5 year old kids that can't leave anything alone), I still like the device. And at this point, I blame Samsung.. They either don't care(which it honestly seems to me to be the case), or simply have no guts..
Either way, there are ways around most of the carrier foolishness.. And it honestly makes me laugh. This is by far the fastest root to have been achieved on a note that I can remember, and I've had all but the 5. The moor they try and lock things down, the better our developers get.. And hire all they want, as it shows, there are plenty in the waking that each generation, are better and more determined than the last.. So I say, to Verizon, who really cares about your bloat and messing.. It will be worked around anyhow..
But no, I wouldn't trade this thing for the world
from note 7

I'm debating on it because I for some reason dont get any better battery life than I do with my 6P. I did a hard reset last night and downloaded the apps manually that I use in a day and gonna try that out today and see how it works. If its still garbage it more than likely will go back

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What were your reasons for returning?
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1. The software settings options Verizon had received. I thought it was funny when one of the threads mentioned the removal of ram and battery options. Some people were pissed cause it was gone and the other side was largely berating them because "programmers were better know and knew what was best to optimize the phone."
I feel that flies in the face of what so many android users want and the xda forum stands for. If I buy a phone, it's my phone, to do with as I damn well please, for better or worse.
2. My job puts my phone in some very tough and tumble situations. Quite frankly, I don't feel there's a case/screen protector combo that will keep it safe. I've previously sworn by iblaison cases, and I'm willing to bet they have survived more abuse than many of you put your phones through.
When they get the case/screen/body protector thing figured out, maybe I'll be back.

Guys... in light of the recall today AND the other issues that I've talked about.. I have returned by Galaxy Note 7. It was fun while it lasted, but the last thing I want is the phone exploding or catching fire (small chance.. but still good enough for samsung to issue a recall and stop the sales).
I returned it back to Costco and got the Moto Z Droid instead. So long guys..

Anyone keeping their Note 7 inspite of recall?

I'm happy with my 7.
Until there is a replacement phone with a stylus (or my phone explodes) I will be keeping my Note 7

asolman said:
I'm happy with my 7.
Until there is a replacement phone with a stylus (or my phone explodes) I will be keeping my Note 7
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No. Once recalled you are taking on a lot of the risk by not turning it in. You also will get no updates.
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I would not be surprised if Samsung disables all Note 7s at this point.
I am moving onto the Pixel XL.
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Mr. Toad said:
I would not be surprised if Samsung disables all Note 7s at this point.
I am moving onto the Pixel XL.
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Yeah. They killed off support in gear VR for the note 7 already. Don't want phones blowing up in people's faces.
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dottat said:
Yeah. They killed off support in gear VR for the note 7 already. Don't want phones blowing up in people's faces.
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Yeah, I just saw that on reddit. I wonder if there will be an 8 of of they are just going to rebrand it.
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Grrr I want to keep it as long as possible. Maybe when the v20 comes out and gets root I would consider changing.

Mibuix0r said:
Grrr I want to keep it as long as possible. Maybe when the v20 comes out and gets root I would consider changing.
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I'm with you, but if you really think about it, it isn't a wise decision. Pisses me off though!
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I talked to Verizon earlier, and they said I could swap my Note out for a temporary phone until the Pixel releases. They also said they would waive the restocking fee on both exchanges, so I think that's the route I'm going to take. I really love the Note 7, but I just don't wanna risk losing everything due to a fire

I know Samsung has stated we should return them, but does that make it an official recall?
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Well I never sold my Note 4 because I thought this might happen so I guess its back to that :'(

They can't say the word "Recall" yet because there are legal ramifications that comes with, so its basically a Recall without the Recall. I don't know my plans yet, I'm going to wait for the V20 probably on the 24th. If there is no resolution on the N7 (Highly Likely) then its either an IP7 Plus, or V20. Im not going to go with the Pixel.

Is the v20 date confirmed? I swear LG has the most botched, hype killing announcement to release datr ratio ever.
I would grab the pixel, but I'm pretty pissed about how Verizon is jacking up the updates. I dont care about cloud storage, so nothing else on that phone stays out beyond a "meh" factor
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Rippley05 said:
Is the v20 date confirmed? I swear LG has the most botched, hype killing announcement to release datr ratio ever.
I would grab the pixel, but I'm pretty pissed about how Verizon is jacking up the updates. I dont care about cloud storage, so nothing else on that phone stays out beyond a "meh" factor
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Rippley you can buy one directly from google and use it on Verizon and still get all the updates. There really is nothing special about that phone though, might get the V20, probably just going back to the Note 4 DE for another year.

At this point I think I would take back my paid off Nexus 6, install Nougat on it, enjoy having a completely unlocked bootloader and unrestricted root, unlimited updates and then expect Samsung to give me a first opportunity to pre-order the Note 8 since I preordered the Note 7, and knock like half the cost of the Note 8 as a way of saying thanks. I think you guys thinking you want a fully paid for Note 8 are a bit overstepping. You never actually paid for the Note 7.
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Mibuix0r said:
Rippley you can buy one directly from google and use it on Verizon and still get all the updates. There really is nothing special about that phone though, might get the V20, probably just going back to the Note 4 DE for another year.
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Yea but I'm not paying full price and Google wants damn near perfect credit to finance one.
The v20 is interesting, but LG had so many heat, screen throttle and keyboard lag issues with my g3 and g4. I have a hard time trusting them.
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neyenlives said:
At this point I think I would take back my paid off Nexus 6, install Nougat on it, enjoy having a completely unlocked bootloader and unrestricted root, unlimited updates and then expect Samsung to give me a first opportunity to pre-order the Note 8 since I preordered the Note 7, and knock like half the cost of the Note 8 as a way of saying thanks. I think you guys thinking you want a fully paid for Note 8 are a bit overstepping. You never actually paid for the Note 7.
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Do we even know if there will be a Note 8?

ChrisAC84 said:
I talked to Verizon earlier, and they said I could swap my Note out for a temporary phone until the Pixel releases. They also said they would waive the restocking fee on both exchanges, so I think that's the route I'm going to take. I really love the Note 7, but I just don't wanna risk losing everything due to a fire[/QUOTE
Bull Verizon made the exchange very difficult.
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Yea but I'm not paying full price and Google wants damn near perfect credit to finance one.
The v20 is interesting, but LG had so many heat, screen throttle and keyboard lag issues with my g3 and g4. I have a hard time trusting them.
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My main issue is that the v20 might not have root and a phone is useless to me without it.

Likely, Samsung will at the very least implement the 60% battery limit or disable fast charging. There is also talk that carriers could deactivate IMEIs by a certain date.

I just got off the phone with Verizon.
Seems that its a voluntary recall. The Verizon rep said I can upgrade my phone at any time but I can keep my Note 7 until I find a phone I like.
Not loving the Pixel Xl so I will be for the New LG. If I don't like the LG I can wait for the Galaxy S8 in 4 months without the fear of my Note being turned off.

I was just told Samsung is going to "turn off" the Note 7

In a chat with US Cellular I was just told "with the recall, it will not be able to stay on your account much longer, due at some point, Samsung will be turning off all the phones on all carriers."
I asked when but she said they do not know the date yet.
She also said I could re activate my Note 7 (which I didn't think was allowed) if the Note 5 I purchased online doesn't work properly.

It is inevitable.
They will try to get everyone to return or exchange their Note 7s first. And then this kill switch to reach out to those who has been living under a rock.
Unless you root the device and circumvent the kill switch.
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Novarider said:
As stated we know your position on the subject. If you returned your phone why are you even still on the note 7 forum? Go troll somewhere else.
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My phone is on the way back.
But I'm sticking around because I still want to know what happened with the Note 7.
You know, it's like losing your loved ones in an accident, you gotta wait for the autopsy report.

BozQ said:
My phone is on the way back.
But I'm sticking around because I still want to know what happened with the Note 7.
You know, it's like losing your loved ones in an accident, you gotta wait for the autopsy report.
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I can understand that. That is until you start saying things like people "have a problem" and there is "something wrong" with people because they still have a note 7. Br0adband has said these things and worse.

Novarider said:
As stated we know your position on the subject. If you returned your phone why are you even still on the note 7 forum? Go troll somewhere else.
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what is more laughable is that he has never owned one. From memory he had/has an S7E and was thinking about upgrading (before all the shxtstorm).
I am willing to suffer a phone sizzle if it means I get a few more weeks with this fantastic phone. I understand the risks, they are significantly low, but I also understand the impact of a total battery failure (running without the 256G SD card currently to avoid damage to it in the event of the phone internally melting).
I do not appreciate BrOadbands incessant drilling of existing N7 users, worse than a 19 year old cop doing the "respect my authority" thing.
Only 2 phones have cooked in Australia, from the original batch (1 was a forum member on Whirlpool forums, the other Samsung indicated when they were quoting numbers), we were getting the second batch a bit later than you guys in the US which may have meant slightly improved production process (made in Vietnam though, if that means anything).
I am however(unfortunately) getting this replaced, as I do fly and the American FAA getting a bit nervous and doing the banning meant globally all airlines followed not to mention that Samsung are giving some financial incentives that may not last forever to replace with S7E/S7 (got told almost 2 weeks ago now by a local Samsung phone rep "your S7E is coming within 21 days"...)
I think part of the product pull by Samsung was not about an inherent fault in all units, but some inevitable butt covering, since the product reputation was tainted, no way to recover from that, the phone would be impossible to sell with all the transportation bans, and how many different battery icon colours could they use to indicate if you owned a v1,2 or 3 lol.
I do believe it had a higher than normal failure rate though, esp in the US, my speculation is the soft construction of the battery was allowing it to get sufficiently distorted during assembly that some further condition was causing battery failure for those excessively distorted (such as plate to plate crystal growth).
Edit: look at this discussion about li-ion failure modes: http://www.mpoweruk.com/lithium_failures.htm
Essentially, it says that the anode SEI layer can break down in as low temps as 80degC including from external heating. I know when we had that dodgy Ocululus update, my CPU when I checked was over 70degC and the whole phone was very warm due to very high current draw due to the max CPU load. So heat from both current draw from the battery, and external heat from the CPU getting toasty would not have helped any phone where the battery was also a little squashed/distorted when packed into the phone during assembly.
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NO Turn Off but will only be able to Use 60% battery from 1st Nov
just now got Notification on phone
http://www.samsung.com/ae/note7exchange/
Still holding on to it to Exchange it with the Galxy S8

ilordvader said:
NO Turn Off but will only be able to Use 60% battery from 1st Nov
just now got Notification on phone
http://www.samsung.com/ae/note7exchange/
Still holding on to it to Exchange it with the Galxy S8
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Are you in the UK?

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Are you in the UK?
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im in Dubai
Hope this Helps -
Is there a way to disable updates without root?

This update is meant to correct all those replacement phones that run at 100% battery. Since this was found to be 1 of 3 suspected issues with the phone igniting the second time too
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CerveCesar said:
This update is meant to correct all those replacement phones that run at 100% battery. Since this was found to be 1 of 3 suspected issues with the phone igniting the second time too
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Would have preferred they nerfed the CPU instead. And disable fast charge and wireless charging. All to prevent it from generating too much heat. Limiting to 60% probably isn't going to help much.
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If the battery has any charge at all it can still "explode" I am not sure this would make the device any less of a risk than a 100 charged battery. Sure the fire might be less but it would still pack a punch.
Really disabling fast charge would be more beneficial I would think.
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Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Did you disable updates packages? If so which ones?

LightningJay said:
Did you disable updates packages? If so which ones?
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Sorry. I didn't.
It was powered off for a few days. And I just got my V20. Turned it on to get some files out but I was shocked to find my Note 7 shut off. And then it rebooted and update my unit. And as expected, it was the 60% battery update.
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BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Was your Note rooted?
Thanks

evo4g63t said:
If the battery has any charge at all it can still "explode" I am not sure this would make the device any less of a risk than a 100 charged battery. Sure the fire might be less but it would still pack a punch.
Really disabling fast charge would be more beneficial I would think.
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If you paid any attention to the pictures we were shown about the burned out phones. There was a a complete burn out and the phones were destroyed. Not a single phone was just damaged a little and stopped working. That shows the battery had a complete or near complete charge.
The batteries burned out completely because of the amount of charge held into them. Not because of their chemical composition. If you know what I mean.
If you ever worked with batteries; You'll know they get very hot and can expand as they overcharge. Thus expansion plus the new sharp aluminum frame inside, may have been 1 of the reasons for ignition we believe.
Keeping your charge at 60/80% lowers the risk of ignition by a lot.
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I actually think BroadBand or whatever actually did post a receipt of the purchase, although everyone knows you can find that on the internet. The person is a far-left lib/progressive who thinks their safe spaces are in jeopardy because a phone (Iphone 7 anyone??) may catch fire.
Anyway, I seriously, seriously doubt they will disable the phone completely. You bought the phone, and it is your phone. If you choose to use another battery inside the note 7, then press on (I have heard reports of folks trying this...it worked, but not sure of the specifics. One guy cracked his screen trying to get the battery out).
Plus, it is an FCC violation to disrupt a communications device. You don't know the person's circumstances. They may live on the fringe of civilization and haven't heard the news or didn't get the push. The first person that is harmed because their working phone was disabled will lead to humongous lawsuits.
A Sprint employee in Newnan Georgia told my daughter that Samsung would be shutting off her phone, and it was against the law for her to keep using. They pressured her hard, made her cry (she's young, first time away from home) because she couldn't get in touch with me. She didn't know what to do because she didn't want to get "arrested," which was the implication they were trying to make. She ended up getting pressured in a S7 because she was afraid of getting in trouble (and she is super furious for getting duped). She wanted to keep the phone until the release of the s8. She was in the store to pay her bill and they saw the phone sticking out of her pocket.
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By the way, Samsung has publicly stated that less than half of the phones were returned. That indicates a million or so are still out there.
I promise you, PROMISE YOU, that the very FIRST Note7 to catch fire despite the recall (because not being returned), would be splattered over every news channel.
How many post-recall reports of exploding batteries have we seen??? As far as I can tell, ZERO!!!! Don't mean it won't happen, but I think the danger is over-blown. Samsung did it because of the media coverage. A single injury (if they had not recalled) given the history of the phone would have resulted in 10s of millions of dollars in damages via litigation.

BozQ said:
Aaaaand...my Note 7 just got nerfed. Forced update.
Oh well, I won't be holding on to this phone for another 4 days. Then it's out of my hands.
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Thanks for the Update Bro
wondering what city are you in ?
so i know who got the shut down update 1st

ilordvader said:
Thanks for the Update Bro
wondering what city are you in ?
so i know who got the shut down update 1st
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I'm from Singapore. I'm pretty sure the update was rolled out on 30 October local time here. (GMT+8)

BozQ said:
I'm from Singapore. I'm pretty sure the update was rolled out on 30 October local time here. (GMT+8)
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I got this Notification few days back
so seem all get the Software update at the same time

How Long to Keep Note 7

Was thinking of switching to a Pixel but I went through a fairly nasty preorder fail with Verizon & Google so I wash my hands of that phone
Would like to hold on to the Note 7 until the Galaxy S8 release, what's the general consensus will Verizon kill the Note 7 off by either February or April
when the expected debut for the S8 is to allegedly arrive?

I'm in the same boat except I actually got my silver 128gb Pixel XL a day before launch and returned it. Reactivated my Note 7. I don't see how they can charge us for the device, they paid off the contract. Phone is my property. I plan to ride this until the S8 comes out...
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All we can do is ride it out if we choose to keep it. I'm happy I did so far. I don't see that changing any time soon.
Verizon can take my payments for the phone at any time. I have a surplus in my Verizon account to do so. I did not default in any way. So, we will see.

They can't charge you for it if the terms of the contract were satisfied by the contract being paid off, at which time the device becomes your property. That's my take on it. I don't want anything they are offering right now..... so I'll wait..
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Basically, all I'm doing is accumulating one month's phone bill over the course of 10 months. So when the Note8 is released I'll still have my upgrade in tact, I'll be able to get an early upgradeable Note9, and I can skip a phone payment 10 months from now.
I was advised that this course was the safest course and should disallow even the blocking of my phone's IMEI. But, as I said, we shall see. I was advised that the course I have chosen allows for legal recourse and is defensible if need be.
But, I am not an attorney.

Lol, nobody is getting legally involved over a 800 dollar smartphone that was written off...
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Lol, good then. Either way, no skin off my back if they do or not.

I'm keeping my Note 7 and got a V20. This whole Note 7 situation kind of worked out really since we got to keep a $900 device :]

imucarmen said:
I'm keeping my Note 7 and got a V20. This whole Note 7 situation kind of worked out really since we got to keep a $900 device :]
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Lol it's not a free device, you upgraded so they will come looking for it.

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Lol it's not a free device, you upgraded so they will come looking for it.
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No they won't. Verizon already wiped it off people's account and are treating it as if it never existed.

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No they won't. Verizon already wiped it off people's account and are treating it as if it never existed.
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Lol keep dreaming and block updates http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/4/13527524/samsung-note-7-recall-85-percent-devices-returned-us

jjayzx said:
Lol keep dreaming and block updates http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/4/13527524/samsung-note-7-recall-85-percent-devices-returned-us
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Of course I have turned off updates and I get no annoying pop-ups. I have spoken with Verizon on the phone and they show no record of me ever owning a Note 7. Verizon are treating the device as if it never existed. I'm not a novice user and actually have had a thread here on XDA for over a month showing people all the possible apps and services they can disable. I currently have near 170 apps and services turned off and there is no way I'll ever get any OTA's or annoying pop-ups. My Note 7 is locked from outside interference and I just use it as a Wi-Fi device now.
If Verizon ever intended on charging people for the device after the second recall they would not have wiped it off people's account before they returned it but would rather have told people they must return it first.