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Hello everybody, i took the 4.4.2 update from verizon back in February. i realize that there are ways to s-off via a java card, but i am not willing to do that. Im fine with spending the $25 just dont want to have to mail it because this phone is my every-day phone so i would need it. my theory, with this phone being almost 2 months old is that i could contact Verizon and make a complaint about the purple camera tint problem as i do have that. im hoping the refurbished phone i get would come with 4.1.2 or 4.3 because when i picked this phone up new from the verizon store back in January it came with 4.1.2. Do you think this is a good idea or not as i will not get a "new" htc one but refurbished phones are just like new as i have had many before. Also, there is probably not gonna be a exploit released for awhile and im not fine with waiting till August.
Well first of all it's $75 not $25 and I wouldn't go through Verizon if I were you... just send it to HTC and they'll replace the camera for you and you'll get back the same phone in working order. Most people have been getting it back with 4.3 but there is a risk of getting 4.4 so it's up to you. The refurb from Verizon would probably be 4.3 or lower but that's not guaranteed either.
Plus with most refurbished phones they are the ones that people returns and the purple tint issue won't be fixed by them.
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I realize that there is a very great chance of the refurbished phones having the purple tint problem but I'm not really worried or care so much because as long as I can take a picture that's good enough for me.
nty123 said:
I realize that there is a very great chance of the refurbished phones having the purple tint problem but I'm not really worried or care so much because as long as I can take a picture that's good enough for me.
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I just got 2 refurbished phones from Verizon yesterday, they both had good cameras and on 4.3
Chilidog said:
I just got 2 refurbished phones from Verizon yesterday, they both had good cameras and on 4.3
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Did you have to walk in the store?
or can you just call them about it and get the phone mailed to you
nty123 said:
I realize that there is a very great chance of the refurbished phones having the purple tint problem but I'm not really worried or care so much because as long as I can take a picture that's good enough for me.
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Refurbs can have other problems so just keep that in mind too. I'd personally rather go through HTC
Crawshayi said:
Refurbs can have other problems so just keep that in mind too. I'd personally rather go through HTC
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I Agree but my objective here is to somehow get 4.3 or lower, so i can root.
nty123 said:
I Agree but my objective here is to somehow get 4.3 or lower, so i can root.
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Just call and they will send you one and once you get it you have 5 days to send one back.
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Just call and they will send you one and once you get it you have 5 days to send one back.
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Alright sounds good, i have dealt with refurbished iPhones before( yes i actually used to have one). Still deciding if i want to give up my current "new" one but the refurbished iPhones and other droids i had didn't have any problems that i can recall, so leaning towards getting a refurbished one.
This is my first android phone on verizon before this i had the iPhone 5 for 2 years and before that i was on sprint with the evo 3d which was rooted... i didn't know it was a mission to get verizon phones rooted. Now im checking the forums everyday like 3 or 4 times a day to see if anything new has come up for root. Im getting desperate lol. People that have had previous note devices on verizon, did it usually take this long?
Lol you sound just like me! Ive looked everywhere. And now just sticking to xda hopen for some good news! I had a s2 rooted then went to ip4 to ip5s both jb. now im back to android with n4. N4 is a bad ass just waiting for this root to make it even meaner! I feel your pain bud!
Don't count on this phone being rooted on Verizon. If it's that important, you may need to switch phones/carriers. It's unfortunate.
It'll be rooted, just have patience. People are SMART around here, and they'll figure it out. It's still a fantastic phone as it is.
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Rippley05 said:
Don't count on this phone being rooted on Verizon. If it's that important, you may need to switch phones/carriers. It's unfortunate.
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This
zipkicker said:
It'll be rooted, just have patience. People are SMART around here, and they'll figure it out. It's still a fantastic phone as it is.
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Not this
I don't see root on N4 with lollipop for awhile...
kimdoocheol said:
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Not this
I don't see root on N4 with lollipop for awhile...
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Nice thing is, not a single person here can predict the future. Nobody knows for sure what'll happen.
mlin said:
Nice thing is, not a single person here can predict the future. Nobody knows for sure what'll happen.
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I don't doubt that the N4 will eventually have root.
I think the issues as stated is that CF needs an unlocked bootloader, which means either we get an unlocked bootloader (which I really doubt) or someone finds an alternative method. So yeah, nobody can predict the future, but this isn't like other phones like say on Tmob. There are more obstacles people with AT&T/VZW need to overcome. Saying otherwise at this point is very misleading to potential buyers and retail owners.
zipkicker said:
It'll be rooted, just have patience. People are SMART around here, and they'll figure it out. It's still a fantastic phone as it is.
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How patient are you? it might get root within a year maybe. want recovery and root buy a developer edition
I think the note 3 just got root this past summer, and it was released Sept 2013, so that would be 8-10 months after release.
Gareee said:
I think the note 3 just got root this past summer, and it was released Sept 2013, so that would be 8-10 months after release.
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From the what I recall, the Note 3 had root last year sometime. I remember this cause I was using one along with safestrap so that I could flash ROMS.
oneandroidnut said:
How patient are you? it might get root within a year maybe. want recovery and root buy a developer edition
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If only it were that easy. Unfortunately Samsung's DE program is a nightmare and they can't seem to keep them in stock. I would happily sell my phone today for $550 and order a DE for $700, but its not even an option.
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If only it were that easy. Unfortunately Samsung's DE program is a nightmare and they can't seem to keep them in stock. I would happily sell my phone today for $550 and order a DE for $700, but its not even an option.
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they sell 20 at a time and then takes 3-4 weeks for 20 more. how they always have done it and how they always will
I had the g2 and I believe the boot on that one is still locked. They used this loki walk around thing.. any chande this can be done with the n4... anyone know about this?
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Nice thing is, not a single person here can predict the future. Nobody knows for sure what'll happen.
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The best way to predict the future is to change it :3
oneandroidnut said:
they sell 20 at a time and then takes 3-4 weeks for 20 more. how they always have done it and how they always will
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Well if we've learned anything about Samsung this year its that they don't know how to properly plan their phone supplies. At this point I'll just wait for an M9 instead of dealing with Samsung's DE circus.
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Well if we've learned anything about Samsung this year its that they don't know how to properly plan their phone supplies. At this point I'll just wait for an M9 instead of dealing with Samsung's DE circus.
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meh i will continue to rock note 4 and try out a nexus which is on the way to me!!!
oneandroidnut said:
meh i will continue to rock note 4 and try out a nexus which is on the way to me!!!
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easy for you to say...
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easy for you to say...
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whys that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tool-multirom-recovery-replacement-t3102395 I came across this thread while browsing XDA, and I didn't know if this has been tried before on the G4. It's basically a recovery replacement for a locked bootloader phone that allows us to flash multiple roms to a device with a partitioned sd card (I think, I may be wrong). I don't have any extra SD cards so I'm throwing it out here in case anyone wants to try it out and see if it works. If it does maybe we'll start to see some rom development *fingers crossed*
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tool-multirom-recovery-replacement-t3102395 I came across this thread while browsing XDA, and I didn't know if this has been tried before on the G4. It's basically a recovery replacement for a locked bootloader phone that allows us to flash multiple roms to a device with a partitioned sd card (I think, I may be wrong). I don't have any extra SD cards so I'm throwing it out here in case anyone wants to try it out and see if it works. If it does maybe we'll start to see some rom development *fingers crossed*
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I used this on my Note 3 and it worked really well! It's a great recovery replacement. Unfortunately you will need developers to build their roms to support MultiSystem.
I haven't tried this on my G4 because of the lack of MultiSystem roms for it. I haven't even been able to get FlashFire to work with my G4 (it may have been the file, I tried to flash to 60 FPS mod in flashfire and it failed, it didn't cause any issues, it just didn't flash like it was suppose to).
I am really hoping for a Bootloader unlock soon, or something similar to safestrap. IMHO MultiSystem works great, but SafeStrap was a better, and easier to use solution!
FlashFire works. I'm just waiting on the roms!
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FlashFire works. I'm just waiting on the roms!
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It works for roms as well?
mfun89 said:
It works for roms as well?
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So far it works for everything we've tried. We just don't have any roms to flash.
Some general discussion - http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/flashfire-locked-bootloader-g4s-t3182105
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Maybe we can get another "Bump" type of recovery/images? Worked really well for the G3...
Ban-Hammer said:
Maybe we can get another "Bump" type of recovery/images? Worked really well for the G3...
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Yes just hope it's in the works patiently waiting quietly
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Sorry for reviving old threads but is this possible yet
TheMadScientist420 said:
Sorry for reviving old threads but is this possible yet
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No
Keep working on it guys
I'm not sure anybody's even working on the G4 anymore are they? I'm worried that people have moved on to greener pastures. I say this as a sad Verizon G4 owner btw.
RIP G4.. 6 mo left til contract ends.
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saColorfinger said:
I'm not sure anybody's even working on the G4 anymore are they? I'm worried that people have moved on to greener pastures. I say this as a sad Verizon G4 owner btw.
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Bootloader or bootloader bypass has been an after thought for quite some time now...
what are you going to get? I'm not even sure whats out there worth picking up. I NEED replaceable batteries.
supasoju said:
RIP G4.. 6 mo left til contract ends.
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Dang how are you already out in 6 months? I got this on release day and I still have a year to go. So sick of LG's skin but I can't get out early since I was dumb enough to do Verizon's device payment plan. Not that this phone is worth anything in resale.
Wumbonaut said:
Dang how are you already out in 6 months? I got this on release day and I still have a year to go. So sick of LG's skin but I can't get out early since I was dumb enough to do Verizon's device payment plan. Not that this phone is worth anything in resale.
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The G4 has been out for a year plus. I don't understand your 6 month thought? Verizon also does early upgrades. I just don't see an upgrade worth the money over my G4 or V10.
leroybrute said:
The G4 has been out for a year plus. I don't understand your 6 month thought? Verizon also does early upgrades. I just don't see an upgrade worth the money over my G4 or V10.
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The Verizon g4 didn't come out until June of last year - which is when I got it. Just jealous you only have 6 months left with it.
Wumbonaut said:
The Verizon g4 didn't come out until June of last year - which is when I got it. Just jealous you only have 6 months left with it.
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May 2015 for the G4.. I like my v10 better. My S7 edge is okay but not worth the upgrade to me.I am planning for the lg V series upgrade or note 6.
I have until August of 2017 on mine. I upgraded to the iPhone 6 plus in August of 2015, then sold it for $500 and bought a brand new opened box G4 for $300 in February 2016. So my payment plan was for the iPhone, but in the end, I'll be paying $200 less total.
I havnt got my phone yet but can't return it too now,I have turned down honor 8, for this phone thinking that this will be having more developer stuffs.but guess i was wrong.even my first gen moto g have alot of developers
rahulje9 said:
I havnt got my phone yet but can't return it too now,I have turned down honor 8, for this phone thinking that this will be having more developer stuffs.but guess i was wrong.even my first gen moto g have alot of developers
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I turned down a iphone 6s plus / oneplus 3/ Note 5 for this phone :/. Should of checked out the development first before buying this phone.
xdamember143 said:
I turned down a iphone 6s plus / oneplus 3/ Note 5 for this phone :/. Should of checked out the development first before buying this phone.
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Thats right.but this was like samsungs flagship device so i thought there will be alot of dev stuff.except from the dev stuff i guess i won't regret this one
I don't regret it at all. I do occasionally miss root, but this phone is fine without it. I used to rely on root for battery savings and that isn't really necessary with this phone.
Greycloak42 said:
I don't regret it at all. I do occasionally miss root, but this phone is fine without it. I used to rely on root for battery savings and that isn't really necessary with this phone.
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Thats good to hear.
I am pampered by xposed modules.so i too will be missing root functionalities.
I am too old to play with root, custom ROM.
Att version of this phone is just right for me
vista1984 said:
I am too old to play with root, custom ROM.
Att version of this phone is just right for me
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Battery sucks for me
I regretted buying this phone a few weeks after I bought it.
I hate this locked bootloader **** that AT&T does to thier devices. I'm about to break my contract with AT&T just because they are so uptight with thier hardware. I paid for this device with my money, I own it. So screw them, they are not getting the early cancellation fee from me either.
I will tell them to unlock my phone completly right now, or im going to another carrier. And I know they won't, most of the people that work at AT&T stores don't even know what a Bootloader is.
But I'm fine going with another carrier. I will make sure I do my research before I make my final decision though.
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I regretted buying this phone a few weeks after I bought it.
I hate this locked bootloader **** that AT&T does to thier devices. I'm about to break my contract with AT&T just because they are so uptight with thier hardware. I paid for this device with my money, I own it. So screw them, they are not getting the early cancellation fee from me either.
I will tell them to unlock my phone completly right now, or im going to another carrier. And I know they won't, most of the people that work at AT&T stores don't even know what a Bootloader is.
But I'm fine going with another carrier. I will make sure I do my research before I make my final decision though.
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I have a T-Mobile variant s6 edge+. If you like the phone but need root and xposed, I would say to trade in for a G928T. Developer isn't great since most have moved on to newer devices, but a few are still there and a library of compatible roms are available.
Did you receive your XL phone and now plan to return it after playing around with it? If so, for what reason (s)?
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hammer7t said:
Did you receive your XL phone and now plan to return it after playing around with it? If so, for what reason (s)?
Thanks.
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Just go ahead and cancel your order if you are worried. There are many posts to read to give you an idea. Read on op.
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Did you receive your XL phone and now plan to return it after playing around with it? If so, for what reason (s)?
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nope, fantastic device.
I think I will be. Forcing myself to use it until tomorrow or a few more days...then decide between keeping this or my V30. Heavily leaning toward V30 right now.
I'm not sure yet, will use for a week and then decide. I really like the phone, but get the off axis blue screen quite a bit.
I'm not sure if mine is worse than normal or similar to other units.
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I am giving myself until Friday. If Google doesn't release an update to fix these software glitches, it is going back.
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I think I will be. Forcing myself to use it until tomorrow or a few more days...then decide between keeping this or my V30. Heavily leaning toward V30 right now.
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Why the v30 over the xl2?
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everyone. you got 15 days to return it. if it passed 15 days it can't be refunded. just a reminder. and applicable only on google store purchases... i know most of you already know it but just wanna remind everyone again for that... thank you so much...
I will be returning my verizon variant pixel 2 xl due to the bootloader being locked. I may buy it from google store after doing more review reading. Overall it seems like a great phone for using it a few days.
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Completely agree
I'm also in the "nope, not returning it" group. I really like my 2 XL and my screen is just fine for my eyes.
I impulse purchased the device at Verizon the other night. I have the Note8 but wanted the Pixel2 as a replacement for my Nexus 6P whuch gets used for kernel hacking & ROM development. Having learned that the Verizon won't be unlocking the bootloader was a deal breaker for me. Mine is going back.
After seeing the screen and playing with the device I'm not interested in ordering the unlocked sku directly from Google. I'm unsure what to buy for a new dev device at this point.
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It's not what I hoped it would be, bought Verizon one hoping like last year I could unlock bootloader. Gonna return and go with one plus 5t most likely. Gonna test drive v30 also.
People returning the Verizon variant phone because they couldn't unlock the bootloader!? Really? At this point, that is old news about Verizon phones. If that's what you care about, that is a scenario in which you wait to see if anyone figures out unlocking the bootloader before you buy. Secondly, I bought the unlocked variant from Google knowing full well that it'll be a while probably before we get things like root and twrp. Not trying to bash on anyone, but c'mon. Y'all should know better.
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Nope
Does anyone know if Google provides a free shipping label for a return?
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Does anyone know if Google provides a free shipping label for a return?
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You'll get an email with a printable return label.
aaronc_98 said:
Why the v30 over the xl2?
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See my post here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74247798&postcount=142
capsnbottles said:
It's not what I hoped it would be, bought Verizon one hoping like last year I could unlock bootloader. Gonna return and go with one plus 5t most likely. Gonna test drive v30 also.
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Does the 5t even work on Verizon?
It's a phenomenally fluid device and killer battery life, but I really can't get used the display which is so essential, so returning it.