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OneX vs GS3 GPU performance

Although Exynos has the better CPU, the GPUs are quite similar in performance (3D) according to these Antutu scores:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/AnTu...Exynos-shows-20-gain-vs-the-HTC-One-X_id29794
Leaked benches before the S3 launch indicate some advantage though
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...9364#1-Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-with-ARM-Mali-400

I think there are enough HOX vs SG3 threads already in here..why create a new thread just to discuss one aspect of the phone >.>

Yawn.
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zerozoneice said:
Although Exynos has the better CPU, the GPUs are quite similar in performance (3D) according to these Antutu scores:
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SGS3 is 20% faster when the HOX is in battery save mode. So what?
Or haven't you seen the image closely? The HOX's battery is low. Also if the HOX has been used for a while, the temperature might have been up and the scores are lower. The highest I've had on mine is 11.4k, someone posted with 11.9k (that was on 1.28).
Edit: phonearena DOT com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-rocks-Quadrant-AnTuTu-and-NenaMark-2-benchmark-tests_id29795
Here the SGS3 has 11.4k. I can hardly say that this counts as "faster".

Yep,
Sgs3 scored 11.4k on AnTuTu, yet my HOX gets 12k
My HOX isn't even running 4.0.4 like the sgs3 is, so - read into this as you like.
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chrisjcks said:
Yep,
Sgs3 scored 11.4k on AnTuTu, yet my HOX gets 12k
My HOX isn't even running 4.0.4 like the sgs3 is, so - read into this as you like.
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Plus, we're getting these scores using a Gingerbread kernel, so IF or WHEN htc release a true ICS kernel for the Tegra 3 one X, maybe our performance will increase, who knows.

TommUK said:
Plus, we're getting these scores using a Gingerbread kernel, so IF or WHEN htc release a true ICS kernel for the Tegra 3 one X, maybe our performance will increase, who knows.
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Yep, my thoughts exactly.
As I've been a Galaxy S user through the 1st & 2nd models, over in the Samsung forums - they too, see AnTuTu as the best & most accurate bench software.
So, if our HOX is already matching (& in some cases beating) the SGS3, with a lower android OS version & operating on a gingerbread kernel, I really don't see the massive improvement that the exynos offers over our tegra 3 device.
.... At least not in this case.
- plus, at least we get an exclusive range of nvidia optimized games too.
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the point is that exynos has an overall advantage (slight, not overwhelming) over the T3 but while generating less heat and therefore eating less battery (which is already very large by comparison)
so if they'd run antutu in loop mode, the GS3 will keep running it long after OneX died
all in all, exynos the better CPU with comparable GPU, give them credit where credit is due.

zerozoneice said:
while generating less heat and therefore eating less battery (which is already very large by comparison)
so if they'd run antutu in loop mode, the GS3 will keep running it long after OneX died
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Pure speculation .... you don't know this.
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zerozoneice said:
the point is that exynos has an overall advantage (slight, not overwhelming) over the T3 but while generating less heat and therefore eating less battery (which is already very large by comparison)
so if they'd run antutu in loop mode, the GS3 will keep running it long after OneX died
all in all, exynos the better CPU with comparable GPU, give them credit where credit is due.
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As someone have said around the forum if you have nothing better to do than playing games long enough to drain your battery, surely you can find the time to put your phone on a charger
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I got 11622 in antutu
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Seriously? Who cares about benchmarks.....They are too inconsistant!
Both great devices and fast as hell. Theres nothing more to say about it....

Back in the days regarding the PC gfx battle, there 3dfx, ATI and nVidia, and nVidia beated them all one by one. And I was the first who jumped to use Geforce 256. What make me comfortable even at present time about nVidia is, they really WILL push out revised drivers when necessary. Just be patient guys.
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First off all the GPU in GS3 is 50-70% faster than Tegra.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
Second of all, the CPU is better, its made out of 32nm, plus offers features such as the 128bit which are featured in Cortex A15. Not to mention this isn't a final product
There's no such thing of Gingerbread kernel or ICS kernel, the kernel we are on is close to 3.0.x kernel, fyi the next number update should bring us to 3.0.x if I'm correct.

MrPhilo said:
First off all the GPU in GS3 is 50-70% faster than Tegra.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
Second of all, the CPU is better, its made out of 32nm, plus offers features such as the 128bit which are featured in Cortex A15. Not to mention this isn't a final product
There's no such thing of Gingerbread kernel or ICS kernel, the kernel we are on is close to 3.0.x kernel, fyi the next number update should bring us to 3.0.x if I'm correct.
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There is so many factors and details in the soc that its hard to say which is better for instance the tegra 3 does use single channel memory but i believe it runs at a higher clock, also this is only an issue if there is a bottle neck here.
Just ran Antutu on my asia htc one x 128 stock and got 1198 without a restart or clearing ram, which i admit is highest i ever got but still, means nothing

MrPhilo said:
First off all the GPU in GS3 is 50-70% faster than Tegra.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
Second of all, the CPU is better, its made out of 32nm, plus offers features such as the 128bit which are featured in Cortex A15. Not to mention this isn't a final product
There's no such thing of Gingerbread kernel or ICS kernel, the kernel we are on is close to 3.0.x kernel, fyi the next number update should bring us to 3.0.x if I'm correct.
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Our kernel revision is 2.6.39.4 if you cared to look on your phone.

MrPhilo said:
First off all the GPU in GS3 is 50-70% faster than Tegra.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
Second of all, the CPU is better, its made out of 32nm, plus offers features such as the 128bit which are featured in Cortex A15. Not to mention this isn't a final product
There's no such thing of Gingerbread kernel or ICS kernel, the kernel we are on is close to 3.0.x kernel, fyi the next number update should bring us to 3.0.x if I'm correct.
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I fail to agree with anything you said, except the moddle paragraph.

As long as SGS3 GPU is not slower than average, it doesn't matter how fast it is.
You won't get special enhanced games for it, it's not nVidia.

According to rules for general, stickied in this forum (that noone reads), comparison threads between devices are not allowed.
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Multi-core performance drop with Android 7.0?

Not sure if it's just me but Geekbench results for multi-core have dropped quite significantly after the final Nougat release.
With Marshmallow it scored around 4400, with Nougat it's around 3200 which is quite a big drop.
Anyone else getting the same?

i got 3039 for pixel c and my nexus 9 got 3340. both with interactive governor. i would guess if the govenor was some performance type it would register higher numbers.

dkryder said:
i got 3039 for pixel c and my nexus 9 got 3340. both with interactive governor. i would guess if the govenor was some performance type it would register higher numbers.
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Most devices are set to interactive anyway, that wouldn't result in such a large drop in multi-core performance.
Good to know it's not just my PIxel C.

1408 single / 3138 multi here :/
I have stuttering when scrolling on Chrome, but i didnt have this problem on MM and Remix OS

gtaadicto92 said:
1408 single / 3138 multi here :/
I have stuttering when scrolling on Chrome, but i didnt have this problem on MM and Remix OS
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Thanks for testing.
I'm assuming this isn't intentional from Google.

Same here
I'm on preview 5 and I have similar geekbench results. I am running a rooted pixel c and got similar results with the performance governor as well.
Shocky2 said:
Not sure if it's just me but Geekbench results for multi-core have dropped quite significantly after the final Nougat release.
With Marshmallow it scored around 4400, with Nougat it's around 3200 which is quite a big drop.
Anyone else getting the same?
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Maybe GeekBench isn't tuned properly for Nougat.

brando56894 said:
Maybe GeekBench isn't tuned properly for Nougat.
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Seeing the last update for it was in Feb 2016, I would say this ^ makes sense.

I just tried out photo mate r3, which has a benchmark function as well. That is a raw photo editing app. In Marshmallow the benchmark takes 33 seconds. In nougat it takes at least 45 seconds. Very similar to the drop in performance seen in Geekbench. Unless photo mate and Geekbench are doing the exact same things, this seems like a performance regression.

It got even worse with Geekbench 4. I am now clocking 1200 single core and 2400 multi-core on Nougat. The individual stats are pretty pathetic compared to other devices. I wonder what happened?
Shocky2 said:
Not sure if it's just me but Geekbench results for multi-core have dropped quite significantly after the final Nougat release.
With Marshmallow it scored around 4400, with Nougat it's around 3200 which is quite a big drop.
Anyone else getting the same?
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Read the reviews. Other people are having the same issues with these benchmark apps showing lower scores that are inconsistent. I don't think the Pixel C is by itself in these crappy scores.

bluestang said:
Read the reviews. Other people are having the same issues with these benchmark apps showing lower scores that are inconsistent. I don't think the Pixel C is by itself in these crappy scores.
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Yeah. But I still get a ten second difference between Marshmallow and nougat in photo mate. I now get the same result as I do on my LG G4 (with its significantly worse processor). Nothing has changed except nougat. That's at least two apps where nougat performance is significantly worse than Marshmallow on the pixel c.

tim.malone said:
Yeah. But I still get a ten second difference between Marshmallow and nougat in photo mate. I now get the same result as I do on my LG G4 (with its significantly worse processor). Nothing has changed except nougat. That's at least two apps where nougat performance is significantly worse than Marshmallow on the pixel c.
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Load marshmallow.
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Thanks for the constructive reply. Next time I experience a problem in Android I will be sure to ignore it.

I think he may be saying the benchmarks FUBARed and just enjoy Nougat???

hey, i run geekbench 4 with the cpu bench and i got a really good score.
but with the compute bench (graphics) i got a really worse result.
i got 1216 points, the nexus 9 with the older soc gets 3689 points.
I think the problem is the graphics driver. some news pages says, android nougat will use a new graphic interface with the latest opengl version.
maybe nvidia hat not yet released a new driver and the older one can´t be use with the full power.

I also noticed this. I found another renderscript (the API Google uses for running computations on the GPU) benchmark and it show similarly bad results on pixel c. I also found this issue https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=204712
That indicates that the pixel c didn't ship with a Nvidia specific renderscript driver, which might be why the performance is bad. Just a guess, but I don't think it is even using the GPU. Which is a shame. The pixel c should fly in this test. I wonder if it's possible to load in the driver from the shield TV?
ravn83 said:
hey, i run geekbench 4 with the cpu bench and i got a really good score.
but with the compute bench (graphics) i got a really worse result.
i got 1216 points, the nexus 9 with the older soc gets 3689 points.
I think the problem is the graphics driver. some news pages says, android nougat will use a new graphic interface with the latest opengl version.
maybe nvidia hat not yet released a new driver and the older one can´t be use with the full power.
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Pixel SD821 is essentially a SD820

Does it tick anyone off that Google put a 'SD821' in your phone, downclocked it to exact SD820 speeds, then sells it as a SD821? The difference between the two is that Qualcomm essentially overclocked the SD820 and called it the SD821 as the two have the same architecture. Then Google apparently downclocks them back down to stock speed and still calls them the Pro chip? Sounds like false advertising that they got around by advertising the downclocked speeds. They knew most customers just care that 821 is bigger than 820, as they don't pay attention the the real tech specs. The SD821 does offer better power consumption efficiency and downclocking will make that actually show, but when the battery easily lasts more than all day, I would rather have the performance increase, but maybe that is just me.

Most customers are checking the chip model? I think not!
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Google didn't "downclock" the 821. There are 2 versions of the 821. One that is clocked higher and one that is more battery efficient.
http://www.xda-developers.com/a-loo...he-snapdragon-821-in-the-google-pixel-phones/
It's not false advertising. Its an ill informed consumer.

+1 to dbrohers comment.
Further.....this is the smoothest performing phone and great battery life. I would rather keep it as is with a lower clock speed.
I don't think Google was concerned with drag racing against other phones in benchmarks. They went for popular vote of a smooth experience with great battery life.

This was known before the phone was even released. It's a non-issue. Are you having performance issues with the phone?

Most likely both versions of the 821's are just high binned 820's. When they fab chips on a wafer the ones closest to the middle generally can hit higher clocks with lower power. So they probably have been holding back the best ones since the beginning and waiting until the fall to release them as the 821.

dbrohrer said:
Google didn't "downclock" the 821. There are 2 versions of the 821. One that is clocked higher and one that is more battery efficient.
http://www.xda-developers.com/a-loo...he-snapdragon-821-in-the-google-pixel-phones/
It's not false advertising. Its an ill informed consumer.
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Okay so Google opted for a 5% battery gain instead of a 10% performance gain? I'm glad I chose the latter.

juliend said:
This was known before the phone was even released. It's a non-issue. Are you having performance issues with the phone?
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I don't have the phone, just wondering about perspective from the owners of the phone. I have the Zenfone 3 Special Edition and love everything about it. The Pixel XL had me strongly considering it because of the software update benefits, however it just fell short in too many areas hardware wise.

iceman4357 said:
+1 to dbrohers comment.
Further.....this is the smoothest performing phone and great battery life. I would rather keep it as is with a lower clock speed.
I don't think Google was concerned with drag racing against other phones in benchmarks. They went for popular vote of a smooth experience with great battery life.
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They went for battery life over smoothest performance. Granted that at these speeds general performance differences will be almost indistinguishable, but when they choose to go with the slower version, they are not choosing smoothest performance. I do not doubt the performance is butter smooth, especially on Nougat, but 'smoothest' performance would've come from the faster clocked SD821.

Blues-n-Blazin said:
I don't have the phone, just wondering about perspective from the owners of the phone. I have the Zenfone 3 Special Edition and love everything about it. The Pixel XL had me strongly considering it because of the software update benefits, however it just fell short in too many areas hardware wise.
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Gotcha. Well, the phone is absolutely buttery smooth. The camera is epic. The battery life is incredible. The only thing I miss really is the water proof thing I had with the note 7. And the S pen. I miss my pen.

The user experience is perfect for me. They got the speed and efficiency balance spot on.

Blues-n-Blazin said:
They went for battery life over smoothest performance. Granted that at these speeds general performance differences will be almost indistinguishable, but when they choose to go with the slower version, they are not choosing smoothest performance. I do not doubt the performance is butter smooth, especially on Nougat, but 'smoothest' performance would've come from the faster clocked SD821.
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Wait....so you decided to start a thread in the Pixel forums challenging the performance characteristics of the phone that you don't even own one? lol
The difference in clock speed relative to it scrolling through the app drawer, or between home screens might make a .01 millisecond difference?
You could also buy an unlocked version and I am sure there is someone who will modify the kernal for the higher clock speed.

iceman4357 said:
Wait....so you decided to start a thread in the Pixel forums challenging the performance characteristics of the phone that you don't even own one? lol
The difference in clock speed relative to it scrolling through the app drawer, or between home screens might make a .01 millisecond difference?
You could also buy an unlocked version and I am sure there is someone who will modify the kernal for the higher clock speed.
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I wasn't challenging anything. I was asking what people thought of it as it was my runner up phone. I simply wanted to know how it panned out and what people thought of the thing that turned me away from it. The pixel section isn't exclusively for Pixel owners bud.
I wasn't even worried about the speed of doing menial tasks such as scrolling through the app drawer, I was wondering about app launch speed and performance of the most demanding games down the road. Home launcher performance is a pretty weak measuring stick for performance. Having said that, as much as I love this ZenUI3.0, I wonder if the Pixel Launcher is somehow better, if that is even possible, simply because Google coded the OS and the app which gives them a huge advantage. I will have to reserve judgement until I get a chance to play with a Pixel though. On the flip side, ZENUI3.0 might be better as it is a perfect experience and this is Google's first go at a custom launcher (though I doubt that kept them from making something exquisite). Regardless, I'm not asking about opinions on the Launcher as it is subjective and it won't tell me anything. I wanted to know if people would've rather seen the higher performance or the battery. I have the higher performance version and my phone has a smaller battery than the Pixel's but my battery lasts a lot more than the day long expectation I have. So I wonder why Google felt they needed better battery life because if my battery lasts a crazy long time, the Pixels would naturally last longer. It just feels like you didn't need more battery life but every phone could always use more performance. I presume your phone keeps charge for two full days. Do you really feel your phone benefits from that 5% battery life boost when you could've had 10% performance boost instead? (Performance that would come in handy, especially when driving that QHD display on High end VR Games down the road). The choice just doesn't make sense to me from Google's standpoint, so I figured I would find out how the owners of the phone felt about it.
Btw, I don't put custom ROMs on my devices anymore unless it is absolutely necessary. I've rarely seen a good one and still not as smooth as stock android.

All i know is my Pixel user experience is much better than my Note7. Speed feels on a whole different level. And battery seems much better.
But alot of that i think is samsungs junkware. It was always running like 20% cpu just being idle. Where i catch my pixel chillin at 0% alot of times
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juliend said:
Gotcha. Well, the phone is absolutely buttery smooth. The camera is epic. The battery life is incredible. The only thing I miss really is the water proof thing I had with the note 7. And the S pen. I miss my pen.
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Yeah waterproofing would've been awesome. The SPen is cool but I personally never used it. My finger works just fine and it would take me longer to pull the pen out and I don't do any note taking. I didn't have the note 7 though so I am ignorant on some of the SPen features it had. I really want to get my hands on a Pixel XL and see how Google did first hand. I personally hate Apple as a company and was hoping the Pixel would get some of the ignorant iPhone users to switch to Android. Most will just keep blindly buying Apple though. I think Daydream VR could possibly be flashy enough for them to consider switching though.

Blues-n-Blazin said:
I wasn't challenging anything. I was asking what people thought of it as it was my runner up phone. I simply wanted to know how it panned out and what people thought of the thing that turned me away from it. The pixel section isn't exclusively for Pixel owners bud.
I wasn't even worried about the speed of doing menial tasks such as scrolling through the app drawer, I was wondering about app launch speed and performance of the most demanding games down the road. Home launcher performance is a pretty weak measuring stick for performance. Having said that, as much as I love this ZenUI3.0, I wonder if the Pixel Launcher is somehow better, if that is even possible, simply because Google coded the OS and the app which gives them a huge advantage. I will have to reserve judgement until I get a chance to play with a Pixel though. On the flip side, ZENUI3.0 might be better as it is a perfect experience and this is Google's first go at a custom launcher (though I doubt that kept them from making something exquisite). Regardless, I'm not asking about opinions on the Launcher as it is subjective and it won't tell me anything. I wanted to know if people would've rather seen the higher performance or the battery. I have the higher performance version and my phone has a smaller battery than the Pixel's but my battery lasts a lot more than the day long expectation I have. So I wonder why Google felt they needed better battery life because if my battery lasts a crazy long time, the Pixels would naturally last longer. It just feels like you didn't need more battery life but every phone could always use more performance. I presume your phone keeps charge for two full days. Do you really feel your phone benefits from that 5% battery life boost when you could've had 10% performance boost instead? (Performance that would come in handy, especially when driving that QHD display on High end VR Games down the road). The choice just doesn't make sense to me from Google's standpoint, so I figured I would find out how the owners of the phone felt about it.
Btw, I don't put custom ROMs on my devices anymore unless it is absolutely necessary. I've rarely seen a good one and still not as smooth as stock android.
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To me personally this phone does miss a beat. If you're worried about performance don't be. I haven't had a single moment where my phone slows down or freezes or anything. Ive had it down to 475mb of ram once. And this thing never slowed down. The speed stayed the same. But that's just from personal experience. So those are my 2 cents. ????

Xt51 said:
To me personally this phone does miss a beat. If you're worried about performance don't be. I haven't had a single moment where my phone slows down or freezes or anything. Ive had it down to 475mb of ram once. And this thing never slowed down. The speed stayed the same. But that's just from personal experience. So those are my 2 cents. ????
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Obviously you meant to say, "To me personally this phone does NOT miss a beat."
Not worried about general performance, I knew that would be fantastic regardless of the SD821 they chose. I mean Google coded the Pixel end to end and regardless of which version of the CPU they decided to use, it was going to run butter no matter what. Just to me, when your battery is already leaving you wonder if you will ever need to charge it again, then 10% performance gain is more valuable to me than 5% battery. To some, that 5% battery might be better if they will never game. For me, I want to put VR games on it that will push it to its limits. I just wish they would've come out with two versions and given the consumer the choice. I really wanted to be first in line for updates, but it's okay I love my phone.
Have any of you tried out Daydream VR yet?

Eh....phone is butter....battery is butter...don't give a hoot about 0.1 of a clock speed difference....don't care about benchmarks...don't care if the phone does happen to jank on a game because more than likely it'll be a poorly coded one. Remember, not all stuttering is because of a phone's specs. Sometimes people just suck at coding.

Trust me that 10% difference will never be noticeable in real life usage.
If you never used a custom ROM that performs better then stock? PureNexus everrytime performs better on the Nexus phones. The developer will also release a Pixel rom, PurePixel?
You can always get that extra performance with a little modding.
No reason not to use the custom rom. More features then stock, performs better in speed, battery life and is updated with security updates.
Only reason I have not bought the Pixel yet is because first thing I will do is unlock bootloader. Install TWRP and custom rom. That's not available yet.

Blues-n-Blazin said:
Does it tick anyone off that Google put a 'SD821' in your phone, downclocked it to exact SD820 speeds, then sells it as a SD821? The difference between the two is that Qualcomm essentially overclocked the SD820 and called it the SD821 as the two have the same architecture. Then Google apparently downclocks them back down to stock speed and still calls them the Pro chip? Sounds like false advertising that they got around by advertising the downclocked speeds. They knew most customers just care that 821 is bigger than 820, as they don't pay attention the the real tech specs. The SD821 does offer better power consumption efficiency and downclocking will make that actually show, but when the battery easily lasts more than all day, I would rather have the performance increase, but maybe that is just me.
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Blues-n-Blazin said:
Okay so Google opted for a 5% battery gain instead of a 10% performance gain? I'm glad I chose the latter.
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Who wants a fast car without gas?
The one the timed his nos boost wins. Check Fast n Furious..

Overheating and CPU throttling

Hi,
I have found that Honor 7X heats a lot during gaming or other tasks using high CPU and GPU use. As a result, it throttles and performance decreases.
So, I decided to do a CPU throttling test using this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=skynet.cputhrottlingtest
I have the attached the result below. As you can see it is throttling a lot.
Can you guys download the app, do the throttle test and upload the results here?
PS: I did the test for 10 min and 20 threads setting.

I'm no expert in this area, but don't ** all ** phones overheat and throttle? Depending on usage?
The question is, to what extent are they being throttled? Which ones are the worse? And, did the oem design / manufacture the device in such a way that it doesn't result in damage (cracked solder == boot loop) if used in such a way often enough.
Do we have results from testing other phones doing the same things? Then we could compare, otherwise, only time will tell if the design holds up as it should.

AsItLies said:
I'm no expert in this area, but don't ** all ** phones overheat and throttle? Depending on usage?
The question is, to what extent are they being throttled? Which ones are the worse? And, did the oem design / manufacture the device in such a way that it doesn't result in damage (cracked solder == boot loop) if used in such a way often enough.
Do we have results from testing other phones doing the same things? Then we could compare, otherwise, only time will tell if the design holds up as it should.
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Yes, all phones do throttle eventually, but my phone throttled to 78% performance in only 10 min. Also, I found that my phone was heating too much while gaming (SoC temperature would go above 65°C) . I wanted to see if others' Honor 7X was heating and throttling this much or is it only my device?

This is what I get on my device, your device may be suffering from bad thermal dissipation (if that's even the term for it), or, more likely, you live in an area with high temps

CriGiu said:
This is what I get on my device, your device may be suffering from bad thermal dissipation (if that's even the term for it), or, more likely, you live in an area with high temps
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Thank you for testing it. It looks like your device throttles less than mine. Also the temperatures are lower. I think only my device has a fault in thermal performance.

I should have my phone on Monday and I'll run a test early next week for ya if still interested.

Men. Kirin processor are not best for gaming compare to Snapdragon because of there GPU problem. They will not perform well specially in gaming. It's universal fact.

seanpr123 said:
I should have my phone on Monday and I'll run a test early next week for ya if still interested.
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OK. Thank you.
TabTapper said:
Men. Kirin processor are not best for gaming compare to Snapdragon because of there GPU problem. They will not perform well specially in gaming. It's universal fact.
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Yes. You're right. Even the Snapdragon 450 has much better than GPU than Kirin 659.

Alrighty, here are the results from my Mate SE and I also had a Moto G5+ (Snap 625) to run against as a comparison. Looks like the first one is the Moto.
Thoughts?

seanpr123 said:
Alrighty, here are the results from my Mate SE and I also had a Moto G5+ (Snap 625) to run against as a comparison. Looks like the first one is the Moto.
Thoughts?
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I don't think the processors \ GPU are much different. I think if we do feel a difference it's because of the overlay of EMUI. It has been well documented how much better stock Android runs in comparison to an overlay. Even super powerful Samsung devices have lag and jank because of the skin.

seanpr123 said:
Alrighty, here are the results from my Mate SE and I also had a Moto G5+ (Snap 625) to run against as a comparison. Looks like the first one is the Moto.
Thoughts?
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The Snapdragon 625 throttles slightly lesser when compared to Kirin 659. This is because SD 625 is made on a 14nm Fab Process while 659 is made on 16nm. Also the Adreno 506 GPU in 625 is much more efficient (Also more powerful).
smokinjoe2122 said:
I don't think the processors \ GPU are much different. I think if we do feel a difference it's because of the overlay of EMUI. It has been well documented how much better stock Android runs in comparison to an overlay. Even super powerful Samsung devices have lag and jank because of the skin.
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I agree that the processors are similar but the GPUs are very different. Adreno 506 is much more powerful and efficient than Mali T830 MP2. Also, the UI shouldn't have much effect on the throttling tests.

Overclocking and Benchmark Scores

Haven't posted on XDA in forever. I originally made an account on here because I'm a benchmark nerd and wanted to know what the highest Antutu score on a Note 2 was (It was my first real smartphone). I was just wondering if anyone has overclocked a Note 10 Plus and what their benchmarks are compared to a stock Note. I remember the stock score I got on the Note 2 was about 11,000 and after overclocking was about 19,000 so I'm just wondering if someone has done it if there is about the same percentage of increase in scores. (Highly doubt it's almost double ?)

I would Def interested in this as well. I love benchmarks and am curious how one over clocks a phone if the bootloader is locked? ****ing pay a $1000 for a phone and can't do what I want with it.. My last note was a 3, then got iPhone for a bit. (not sure what I was thinking) I'm back for good now.
What tools does one need for this?
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You'd need a custom kernel in order to overclock. Currently there are no custom kernels available for the N10+, but you are welcome to create one yourself, as the kernel sources for our phone are available.
However, I think that the Snapdragon variant will take a while to get a custom kernel, given that the bootloader is locked in the american version. Expect custom kernels for the Exynos variant first.
But I don't think we have much headroom for overclocking on these chips.
We currently don't have much information on the Exynos 9825 in the N10+, so my information is purely based on the Exynos 9820, which is the same CPU but in a slightly larger phabrication (8nm vs 7nm). The 9825 should use a little less power than the 9820.
The 9820 at stock clocks pulls around 3 watts for CPU intensive loads (https://images.anandtech.com/doci/14072/SPEC2006eff-overview_575px.png) and around 5 watts for GPU loads (https://www.anandtech.com/show/14072/the-samsung-galaxy-s10plus-review/10).
Given that the phone is a passive design, we can't expect the phone to cool 5 watts peak performance. which is what we see. The 9825 appears to throttle under certain sustained loads (https://www.computerbase.de/2019-09/samsung-galaxy-note-10-exynos-9825-dauerlast/).
And given how overclocking works, you'd realistically just get a few couple hundred MHz on the Mongoose cores or the A75 cores, before things become unstable or overheat.
The 9820 was already pretty agressive on the voltage curve (https://images.anandtech.com/doci/14072/Exynos9820-Voltages_575px.png), I don't think the Exynos can push that much higher than stock.
But only time can tell when we can test it ourselves with a custom kernel.

If you succeed w/ overclocking, you may wanna compare your scores with the standard Antutu bench I did on both S10e(8/256GB) and N10+(12/256):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wvHYJhfIKw&feature=youtu.be

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naya28 said:
here you are
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Last fde ai
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sorry to bother you with something this old, but do you have before and after scores and are you on exynos android 10 or 9?
the scores seems quite higher than stock but we have no reference since you may be running a custom rom.
if you can add some details I would appreciate it alot,thanks for your time.

Aaron_Woolery said:
Haven't posted on XDA in forever. I originally made an account on here because I'm a benchmark nerd and wanted to know what the highest Antutu score on a Note 2 was (It was my first real smartphone). I was just wondering if anyone has overclocked a Note 10 Plus and what their benchmarks are compared to a stock Note. I remember the stock score I got on the Note 2 was about 11,000 and after overclocking was about 19,000 so I'm just wondering if someone has done it if there is about the same percentage of increase in scores. (Highly doubt it's almost double ?)
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Theres the bullfrog kernel with tons of optimizations and scores range from 460k-480k.
Kernel though is on telegram and not xda.

Ahmadhmedan said:
sorry to bother you with something this old, but do you have before and after scores and are you on exynos android 10 or 9?
the scores seems quite higher than stock but we have no reference since you may be running a custom rom.
if you can add some details I would appreciate it alot,thanks for your time.[/QUOTEI don t remember but it was on Pie with ketan s Rom and Nemesis kernel I think.
I don t have screenshot of before.
Fde.ai is a really good optimiser.
Now I m on Q but pie was great.
Sorry if I can t help you anymore.
Ciao
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Aaron_Woolery said:
Haven't posted on XDA in forever. I originally made an account on here because I'm a benchmark nerd and wanted to know what the highest Antutu score on a Note 2 was (It was my first real smartphone). I was just wondering if anyone has overclocked a Note 10 Plus and what their benchmarks are compared to a stock Note. I remember the stock score I got on the Note 2 was about 11,000 and after overclocking was about 19,000 so I'm just wondering if someone has done it if there is about the same percentage of increase in scores. (Highly doubt it's almost double ?)
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Bfg kernel has been, not overclocking, but somewhat stretching the device. Yesterday they peaked 500k in antutu. Normal antutu on bfg kernel is >480k vs stock at 440k.