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Hi guys, my htc m8 is a latin america variant cid 332 and since i bought it i just use 3g because it doesn't work on 4g band 7 2600mhz here on Brazil. today with sunshine 3.0.3 i could s-off and change to developer edition but 4g still do not work. so what is the radio that will work 4g lte in my device? thanks.
leandronb said:
Hi guys, my htc m8 is a latin america variant cid 332 and since i bought it i just use 3g because it doesn't work on 4g band 7 2600mhz here on Brazil. today with sunshine 3.0.3 i could s-off and change to developer edition but 4g still do not work. so what is the radio that will work 4g lte in my device? thanks.
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From what I can tell, the Dev Edition does lack 2600 MHz (band 7) LTE support.
There are probably a variety of other radios that will work with Band 7. Just looking at a Wiki list of what LTE bands are used in various locations/carriers (below); band 7 seems to be used by a number of carriers in Europe and Asia (as well as South & Cental America). Also, just looking at the specs for my AT&T M8 version, it also supports LTE Band 7. SO I would think you might have a few different options that would work. But of course you will want to use a radio that also supports your carrier's 3G band(s).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
redpoint73 said:
From what I can tell, the Dev Edition does lack 2600 MHz (band 7) LTE support.
There are probably a variety of other radios that will work with Band 7. Just looking at a Wiki list of what LTE bands are used in various locations/carriers (below); band 7 seems to be used by a number of carriers in Europe and Asia (as well as South & Cental America). Also, just looking at the specs for my AT&T M8 version, it also supports LTE Band 7. SO I would think you might have a few different options that would work. But of course you will want to use a radio that also supports your carrier's 3G band(s).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Thanks for the answer.
Here in Brazil a some people are using att version and 4g is working fine, and also I talked to a guy that is using wwe radio and is working fine too, but att radio is in version 1.16 and wwe is in 1.15, should I try the newer one instead of wwe?
leandronb said:
Here in Brazil a some people are using att version and 4g is working fine, and also I talked to a guy that is using wwe radio and is working fine too, but att radio is in version 1.16 and wwe is in 1.15, should I try the newer one instead of wwe?
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While technically the 1.16 radio is "newer" than 1.15 (thus the higher version number); that doesn't necessarily mean "better". Its from the same "generation" of radio versions, and just includes AT&T specific tweaks, bands, etc.
Neither the WWE nor the AT&T radios are specifically intended for your carrier. So its a gamble which will work better. It sounds like either should work fine. If I had to pick, I would guess to try the WWE radio. AT&T has too many network specific naunces, in my experience. While WWE by definition is more "generic". But that is just a guess on my part (which will work better in your specific case).
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While technically the 1.16 radio is "newer" than 1.15 (thus the higher version number); that doesn't necessarily mean "better". Its from the same "generation" of radio versions, and just includes AT&T specific tweaks, bands, etc.
Neither the WWE nor the AT&T radios are specifically intended for your carrier. So its a gamble which will work better. It sounds like either should work fine. If I had to pick, I would guess to try the WWE radio. AT&T has too many network specific naunces, in my experience. While WWE by definition is more "generic". But that is just a guess on my part (which will work better in your specific case).
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Thanks, I will try wwe first, if 4g do not appear I will try att. And I didn't knew that Dev edition doesn't have band 7, I was expecting to appear 4g after boot.
leandronb said:
I didn't knew that Dev edition doesn't have band 7, I was expecting to appear 4g after boot.
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I was slightly surprised myself. I had assumed that the Dev Edition and AT&T versions had the same band compatibility, since the DE is specfically intended to work on AT&T's network. But at least based on specs online, its missing LTE Band 7 (which agrees with your experience).
AT&T doesn't use LTE Band 7. So its not too strange, I suppose (that its omitted from the DE). I just wonder why they decided to include it on the AT&T variant, and not on the DE.
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I was slightly surprised myself. I had assumed that the Dev Edition and AT&T versions had the same band compatibility, since the DE is specfically intended to work on AT&T's network. But at least based on specs online, its missing LTE Band 7 (which agrees with your experience).
AT&T doesn't use LTE Band 7. So its not too strange, I suppose (that its omitted from the DE). I just wonder why they decided to include it on the AT&T variant, and not on the DE.
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No luck with wwe radio. Maybe is carrier related. Do you think my m8 have a different hardware? Is a GSM version. Also if wwe radio didn't work att wouldn't either, or is there a chance to work?
leandronb said:
Maybe is carrier related. Do you think my m8 have a different hardware? Is a GSM version. Also if wwe radio didn't work att wouldn't either, or is there a chance to work?
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Aside from the CDMA variants (Sprint & Verizon) and dual SIM variant, all M8 hardware is the same.
AT&T radio might still work, I'd recommend trying it.
Its fully possible that the carriers intended for the WWE version don't use LTE Band 7. I was just guessing (and apparently incorrectly) that there was enough Band 7 usage in Europe, that it would mean the WWE version would support that band.
redpoint73 said:
Aside from the CDMA variants (Sprint & Verizon) and dual SIM variant, all M8 hardware is the same.
AT&T radio might still work, I'd recommend trying it.
Its fully possible that the carriers intended for the WWE version don't use LTE Band 7. I was just guessing (and apparently incorrectly) that there was enough Band 7 usage in Europe, that it would mean the WWE version would support that band.
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I will try att radio when I get home, but one Brazilian user already told me that was using 4g with wwe radio. If 4g doesn't work in att radio I will contact my carrier to enable for me.
leandronb said:
I will try att radio when I get home, but one Brazilian user already told me that was using 4g with wwe radio. If 4g doesn't work in att radio I will contact my carrier to enable for me.
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If you have never used LTE on that SIM before, than yes there might be a carrier side issue. Such as your account not being provisioned for LTE, etc.
Also make sure you are using the proper APN. Sometimes, carriers use a different APN for LTE enabled phones.
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If you have never used LTE on that SIM before, than yes there might be a carrier side issue. Such as your account not being provisioned for LTE, etc.
Also make sure you are using the proper APN. Sometimes, carriers use a different APN for LTE enabled phones.
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flashed att radio still no 3g, but is now appearing 3g more instead H. never saw that 3g symbol, just h or h+. talked to my carrier and they said that my sim was already 4g enabled, tried to reset apn and try another and still no 4g. my model is 0p6b160, i think is the same one from canada. is there some app that i can use to see if band 7 is working?
EDIT:I was doing some research about this model and even in stock firmware and radio it was supposed to work with band 7. in this page http://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/21erlf/psa_the_new_htc_one_m8_google_play_edition/
is this post:
HTC made and certified with the FCC three models that support 3G on AWS band. They support the following LTE bands:
0P6B130: 4,17
0P6B160: 4,7,17
0P6B170: 2,4,5,7,17
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also in the box of my phone is saying this:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900MHz), WCDMA (850/AWS/1900/2100MHz), LTE™ (700/AWS/2600MHz)
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when i bought this phone 4g didn't worked and a guy told me that my model is a latin one and will not work, so i waited for s-off to try change my radio but no luck. also i talked with a guy that have the same model as me and same carrier with 4g working, now i don't know what to do.
leandronb said:
when i bought this phone 4g didn't worked and a guy told me that my model is a latin one and will not work, so i waited for s-off to try change my radio but no luck. also i talked with a guy that have the same model as me and same carrier with 4g working, now i don't know what to do.
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I'd try your SIM in another phone, or try another person's SIM (who has working LTE) on your phone, and see what happens.
I have a suspicion that the issue is carrier side. If your phone has the band enabled, and the APN is correct, I don't see any reason why LTE won't work.
redpoint73 said:
I'd try your SIM in another phone, or try another person's SIM (who has working LTE) on your phone, and see what happens.
I have a suspicion that the issue is carrier side. If your phone has the band enabled, and the APN is correct, I don't see any reason why LTE won't work.
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went to my carrier and they are so lazy that couldn't get a phone for me to test or another sim card. so my i borrowed my friend's iphone 5s and with their sim card i could get lte signal and my sim card on his phone only 3g. now i know for sure that my phone is 4g capable, and all carriers here in brazil use the same band. i will try to contact them one more time, if nothing is solved i will switch to another carrier. thanks for all your help. one more thing. is there some app to test the strength of signal? i want to know if wwe radio is stronger than at&t.
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leandronb said:
went to my carrier and they are so lazy that couldn't get a phone for me to test or another sim card. so my i borrowed my friend's iphone 5s and with their sim card i could get lte signal and my sim card on his phone only 3g. now i know for sure that my phone is 4g capable, and all carriers here in brazil use the same band. i will try to contact them one more time, if nothing is solved i will switch to another carrier
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As I suspected, after flashing multiple radios, that it was a network side issue.
I have to agree, that is some poor customer service to not even try a new SIM. And now you've conclusively proven the issue is on their side. So if you give them another chance and they still don't fix it; I agree switching carriers is probably the right decision (if that is an option for you).
leandronb said:
is there some app to test the strength of signal? i want to know if wwe radio is stronger than at&t.
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You don't need an app. Just go into phone Settings>About>Network, and there you will see Signal Strength in dBm.
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As I suspected, after flashing multiple radios, that it was a network side issue.
I have to agree, that is some poor customer service to not even try a new SIM. And now you've conclusively proven the issue is on their side. So if you give them another chance and they still don't fix it; I agree switching carriers is probably the right decision (if that is an option for you).
You don't need an app. Just go into phone Settings>About>Network, and there you will see Signal Strength in dBm.
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i will switch my carrier today, they don't even had a clue what device is HTC m8 since htc doesn't sell devices here in Brazil. after two calls and they told me to turn off my device for 10 minutes (obviously the did this because they didn't know how to fix the problem and this will make me hang up the call) nothing was solved, they even told me that my area doesn't have 4g coverage, but almost a year ago i was using 4g in my g2 in the same carrier, that was when i stop taking them seriously. for the record, the carrier is Claro BR, try to ask something more technical and they don't know what to do.
Thanks for all you help and attention.
It worked for Nexus 6, I wonder for S6 and S6 Edge.
Someone please test?
jucytec said:
It worked for Nexus 6, I wonder for S6 and S6 Edge.
Someone please test?
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I am 99.9% positive this will not work. Every Nexus 6 sold was identical in terms of carrier compatibility, the only difference between devices was color and storage capacity, same thing for the most part with iPhones. Samsung has historically never done one model for all carriers, instead they choose to make each version specific to that carriers frequencies/technology. The Tmobile S6 would only ever connect to Verizons Band 4/2/5 LTE in a perfect situation but most likely it will just reject the sim all together. A Tmobile S6 will work on ATT when unlocked since they share a significant amount of frequencies and are both GSM and vice versa. If you want a phone that works on Verizon and Tmobile 100% your only 2 options are the Nexus 6 and the iPhone.
jucytec said:
It worked for Nexus 6, I wonder for S6 and S6 Edge.
Someone please test?
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The Nexus wasn't SIM locked, the S6 is.
I don't think Verizon will take a non-Verizon device and hook it up to its service.
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I don't think Verizon will take a non-Verizon device and hook it up to its service.
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Nexus 6
iPhone 6 non-verizon branded work.
You must have active verizon sim already for it to work.
patt2k said:
Nexus 6
iPhone 6 non-verizon branded work.
You must have active verizon sim already for it to work.
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I will try it with the Galaxy S6 after I receive it tomorrow. My colleague has Verizon, so I will just plug in his SIM to test if the service works with the T-Mobile Galaxy S6 on Verizon network.
LTE-X said:
I will try it with the Galaxy S6 after I receive it tomorrow. My colleague has Verizon, so I will just plug in his SIM to test if the service works with the T-Mobile Galaxy S6 on Verizon network.
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thanks!
LTE-X said:
I will try it with the Galaxy S6 after I receive it tomorrow. My colleague has Verizon, so I will just plug in his SIM to test if the service works with the T-Mobile Galaxy S6 on Verizon network.
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any luck getting the S6 to work with verizon sim?
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any luck getting the S6 to work with verizon sim?
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Here is what I've found out. I am in NYC, so the radio bands availability may differ depending on your location. I was able to receive a stable 20mhz bandwidth band 4 LTE data service. Text messaging works perfectly fine, but the call doesn't. When I made a call, the phone dropped the signal completely (the signal came back on when I pressed "end call" button).
You can by an unlocked S6 on Mobicity. They said it will work on Verizon...don't believe them! I called and chatted with Verizon and they said that they do NOT allow other phones on their network...period. You can use their Verizon branded phones on other networks such as AT&T or T-Mobile, but not the other way around.
jaseman said:
You can by an unlocked S6 on Mobicity. They said it will work on Verizon...don't believe them! I called and chatted with Verizon and they said that they do NOT allow other phones on their network...period. You can use their Verizon branded phones on other networks such as AT&T or T-Mobile, but not the other way around.
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i spoke to a vzw rep and it is possible. the catch is it must be an unlocked phone. if it belong to a carrier vzw will not activate it. this sort of explains why the LTE data was working but the voice wasn't. I wonder if I can get an international version and activate it on vzw now.
I don't think the TMO variant has the right CDMA bands to operate properly on VZW. That would explain why you had LTE data but no voice as voice calls would be routed over CDMA. I'm honestly surprised you got the device running on VZW at all as it is SIM locked to T-Mobile.
No VoLTE Yet....
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I don't think the TMO variant has the right CDMA bands to operate properly on VZW. That would explain why you had LTE data but no voice as voice calls would be routed over CDMA. I'm honestly surprised you got the device running on VZW at all as it is SIM locked to T-Mobile.
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i spoke to a vzw rep and it is possible. the catch is it must be an unlocked phone. if it belong to a carrier vzw will not activate it. this sort of explains why the LTE data was working but the voice wasn't. I wonder if I can get an international version and activate it on vzw now.
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Because the S6 and S6 Edge do not ship with VoLTE out of the box (later update at some point)... this means the Verizon variant will need the CDMA radio's in order to do voice calls for now.... however once the VoLTE update for the phone (whether by T-Mobile OTA or Samsung OTA Update) then you should be able to successfully place calls on Verizon via the T-Mobile phone since it utilizes the LTE radios to send voice as data... so the short answer is no it won't work on verizon unless you install something like hangouts and make wifi calls/ data calls with the Verizon SIM in or maybe even Google Voice to place calls... might be worth a try using your buddy's SIM in your phone :good:
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Because the S6 and S6 Edge do not ship with VoLTE out of the box (later update at some point)... this means the Verizon variant will need the CDMA radio's in order to do voice calls for now.... however once the VoLTE update for the phone (whether by T-Mobile OTA or Samsung OTA Update) then you should be able to successfully place calls on Verizon via the T-Mobile phone since it utilizes the LTE radios to send voice as data... so the short answer is no it won't work on verizon unless you install something like hangouts and make wifi calls/ data calls with the Verizon SIM in or maybe even Google Voice to place calls... might be worth a try using your buddy's SIM in your phone :good:
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VoLTE is enabled out of the box however VZW won't provision the device for these services as it is an unrecognized device. You might be able to force it on with the web portal but no promises. That's how it's done with the nexus. If it doesn't work that way it won't work at all as the fallback CDMA won't be available to the device. Consequently you'll be prone to dropping calls as the device won't be able to transition to CDMA in low coverage areas even if you can get VoLTE up and running.
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i spoke to a vzw rep and it is possible. the catch is it must be an unlocked phone. if it belong to a carrier vzw will not activate it. this sort of explains why the LTE data was working but the voice wasn't. I wonder if I can get an international version and activate it on vzw now.
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Verizon reps have heads up their behinds.... basically you need to get someone that understands what you are wanting to do instead of reading the "flip book" answers that they have "canned" for not-so-intelligent reps. that do not take their jobs seriously.
Here is what actual facts with VZW with non-supported VZW devices:
1. VZW Features such as enhanced voicemail, VZW messaging, etc. will not work
2. It is somewhat a "trick" to activate a new SIM card for a non-supported device... because VZW requires a IMEI number for a phone to activate that must match the size of SIM card being activated... for example for a nano-sim it must activate to a nano-sim phone IMEI & not to a micro-sim phone IMEI... VZW has "dummy" IMEI's setup to support non-supported device activation... they just activate the SIM to the "dummy" IMEI for the correct size SIM then once activated, as soon as it is placed into a phone, the IMEI updates to Verizon....
3. It does for most part "lock out" changes to your plan... however, if you don't call into them to have them "look" into something on your account then they will not revoke any discounts....
I have sold a number of non-supported VZW devices to people that are on VZW.... and this is compiled from their experiences and my own... basically nowadays... nanosim is going to in everything until something smaller comes out, so once you have a nanosim that is activated you are set, especially with Verizon.....
I am curious though with whomever placed the Verizon SIM into a TMO phone since the phone's from TMO are suppose to be SIM-Locked....
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VoLTE is enabled out of the box however VZW won't provision the device for these services as it is an unrecognized device. You might be able to force it on with the web portal but no promises. That's how it's done with the nexus. If it doesn't work that way it won't work at all as the fallback CDMA won't be available to the device. Consequently you'll be prone to dropping calls as the device won't be able to transition to CDMA in low coverage areas even if you can get VoLTE up and running.
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nope your right... my bad... VoLTE is enabled out of box... your right though, if it is already provisioned to a line it may work... however like you said, you will probably drop calls like a madman... it would be nice if everyone made their phones like the Nexus 6.... that would be "true" carrier freedom..... :good:
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I don't think the TMO variant has the right CDMA bands to operate properly on VZW. That would explain why you had LTE data but no voice as voice calls would be routed over CDMA. I'm honestly surprised you got the device running on VZW at all as it is SIM locked to T-Mobile.
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It's unlocked. I do not wish to have Device Installment Plan where I have to pay certain amount each month. I just paid the total cost of the phone up front, so I don't have to make additional payments. Since I was a T-Mobile subscriber for 7 years and I paid the total cost of the device up front, the customer representative provided me with the Unlock code for the device.
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It's unlocked. I do not wish to have Device Installment Plan where I have to pay certain amount each month. I just paid the total cost of the phone up front, so I don't have to make additional payments. Since I was a T-Mobile subscriber for 7 years and I paid the total cost of the device up front, the customer representative provided me with the Unlock code for the device.
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You're lucky if that's what happened. Their policy states they won't unlock the device unless you've had service for a month and a half. Business users are 14 days.
The customer service rep did mention this policy but the rep said that he has the ability to waive the policy under special circumstances: 7 years subscriber, device paid up front, and account in good standing.
att sim in tmobile s6 edge works
i have a att sim card i put in my boys galaxy s6 edge from tmobile and its been working for two days now without no issues
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The Nexus wasn't SIM locked, the S6 is.
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You sure? T-Mobile purchased S6/S6 Edge is sim unlocked?
Edit: brain fart. Re-read your post and face palmed myself. Lol.
At the very least on the unlocked version, and covered under warranty too!
http://www.htc.com/us/go/buy-htc-10/
"Your HTC warranty even covers bootloader unlocking on the HTC 10!
For more bootloader unlocking info, visit www.htcdev.com"
It still shows up if the AT&T version is clicked, but it's a little less clear.
Still, if AT&T doesn't end up selling directly, I have no idea why anyone wouldn't buy the unlocked version.
HTC has always been good about this especially with their unlocked version. I do hope this unlocked version will have the right band support much like the Nexus 5X and 6P.
Cloudrift said:
HTC has always been good about this especially with their unlocked version. I do hope this unlocked version will have the right band support much like the Nexus 5X and 6P.
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I think one difference this time is they said it's included in the warranty. I'm still using my old M8, so I can't speak for the M9 or A9. However, from what I've seen historically, there was always the risk that HTC wouldn't honor the warranty if the bootloader was unlocked. It's nice to see that it's covered this time though.
Here's what we got for bands:
#UHL SKU (EMEA/Asia)
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS
850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE (up to 450Mbps)
FDD: Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 32
TDD: Bands 38, 40, 41
Support Cat 9 LTE, download up to 450 Mbps, upload up to 50 Mbps
#WL SKU(America)
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: 800/1900 with EVDO Rev A
3G UMTS
850/AWS/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE (up to 450Mbps)
FDD: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 28, 29, 30
Support Cat 9 LTE, download up to 450 Mbps, upload up to 50 Mbps
#UHL SKU(Japan)
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE
800/850/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS
850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE (up to 450Mbps)
FDD: Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 13, 17, 19, 21, 26
TDD: Bands 38, 41
Support Cat 9 LTE, download up to 450 Mbps, upload up to 50 Mbps
While it's not as comprehensives as what I have on my Moto X Pure 2015, my initial looking shows that LTE should work in most major European and Asian countries as well as Australia and New Zealand. Didn't check South America/Caribbean.
Superguy said:
I think one difference this time is they said it's included in the warranty. I'm still using my old M8, so I can't speak for the M9 or A9. However, from what I've seen historically, there was always the risk that HTC wouldn't honor the warranty if the bootloader was unlocked. It's nice to see that it's covered this time though.
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This is good news, indeed!
Though, I had two hardware issues with my M8, and they honored my warranty even though the phone had a custom ROM and unlocked bootloader on it :good:
Anonaru said:
This is good news, indeed!
Though, I had two hardware issues with my M8, and they honored my warranty even though the phone had a custom ROM and unlocked bootloader on it :good:
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I've often wondered if HTC is more tolerant than others considering their smaller marketshare and this is an area where they can set themselves apart.
Superguy said:
I've often wondered if HTC is more tolerant than others considering their smaller marketshare and this is an area where they can set themselves apart.
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They thump the "developer friendly" drum, and of course are quite great with warranty / service in this regard... Though if you've ever scrolled through their sources, you will know that they have some progress to make when it comes to being dev friendly :laugh:
Having a risk-free bootloader unlock / tinker will do wonders for this, though. People will really go to town on the M10, which is going to be a golden age for us future M10 owners
Superguy said:
At the very least on the unlocked version, and covered under warranty too!
http://www.htc.com/us/go/buy-htc-10/
"Your HTC warranty even covers bootloader unlocking on the HTC 10!
For more bootloader unlocking info, visit www.htcdev.com"
It still shows up if the AT&T version is clicked, but it's a little less clear.
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It actually doesn't show the Unlocked version if you go to your cart afterwards. Both unlocked and T-Mobile versions show 'T-Mobile' in the product title once in the cart. Might actually mean that there isn't any difference between the two, and devunlock is now under warranty by default?
Pretty sure verizon will have it locked down so hard that beaups wont be able to unlock it for awhile
Maybe we'll get lucky and Firewater or Sunshine will have S-OFF for us quickly too.
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Maybe we'll get lucky and Firewater or Sunshine will have S-OFF for us quickly too.
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Ask and you shall receive!
so is the bootloader unlocked or not?
Edit - I see that it's covered here: http://www.htc.com/us/go/buy-htc-10/
"Your HTC warranty even covers bootloader unlocking on the HTC 10!
For more bootloader unlocking info, visit www.htcdev.com"
I am highly interested in the new HTC 10, I hate that the IR blaster is gone, but it appears to make up for that in all the other areas. My question is, can I get the unlocked version and use it on Verizon with full functionality? Or should I just wait for bootloader unlock and root on the Verizon version to purchase? Decisions, Decisions Really hope this phone sees bootloader unlock, and root! I have Verizon grandfathered unlimited data plan, and use my hotspot on my jailbroken iPhone daily. Really want to go back to Android for my next phone and this looks like the device to switch back to, but I cant do it if Verizon's punk ass keeps locking down the bootloaders effective making Android devices useless to me. I wont buy a device I cant jailbreak or root for having to have the hotspot.
awareunlikeu said:
I My question is, can I get the unlocked version and use it on Verizon with full functionality? Or should I just wait for bootloader unlock and root on the Verizon version to purchase? Decisions, Decisions
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"The Unlocked version is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile. " That's just below the pre-order button. So, no CDMA support on the unlocked version currently available for pre-order.
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"The Unlocked version is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile. " That's just below the pre-order button. So, no CDMA support on the unlocked version currently available for pre-order.
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Yeah I saw but was hoping for a Nexus like device that would work on all carriers?? Guess I am going to keep wishing huh? If it gets unlocked bootloader/root on Verizon, I will pick this one up and make my return back to Android. I was just hoping that we could have a HTC 10 that worked across all carriers. Perhaps they will come out with a dual sim version down the line? Crossing fingers for all of it. My M8 was my favorite phone minus the ****ty camera.
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I think one difference this time is they said it's included in the warranty. I'm still using my old M8, so I can't speak for the M9 or A9. However, from what I've seen historically, there was always the risk that HTC wouldn't honor the warranty if the bootloader was unlocked. It's nice to see that it's covered this time though.
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I had a M8, scren broke after a week when I left it on my desk, like a very little shock, when I've asked for a repair, support was OK, till they saw on their screen that it was unlocked.
Support told me that rooted smartphones could break a screen ... I've asked for a proof, never had one.
On a side note, my wife had the same M8, unrooted, screen broke almost the same way; got a replacement.
Obviously, the screen on this model was bad
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Yeah I saw but was hoping for a Nexus like device that would work on all carriers??
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I asked Jeff Gordon (HTC US employee on Twitter, not the NASCAR driver) about bootloader unlocked. He confirmed, and also says still waiting for Sprint and VZW approval.
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Please don't F this phone up for me Verizon! Let us have at least one Android phone that we can make ours!
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I asked Jeff Gordon (HTC US employee on Twitter, not the NASCAR driver) about bootloader unlocked. He confirmed, and also says still waiting for Sprint and VZW approval.
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I can see both Verizon and Sprint squirming in their boots at this one
"But how will we put our crappy carrier apps that haven't been updated in a decade in there??"
Although I absolutely love making my phone mine, the only reason I rooted initially was to shake the sprint crap :good: That aside, this is a tremendous announcement, and would be blooming fantastic if it became a thing
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"The Unlocked version is compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile. " That's just below the pre-order button. So, no CDMA support on the unlocked version currently available for pre-order.
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There's only 1 published SKU for the US and it supports both GSM and CDMA so I suspect that the unlocked model sold by HTC will indeed work on Verizon and Sprint but the two carriers haven't certified it yet, and likely will want you to purchase a software locked version from them directly. If we can confirm the radios will work, then unlocked is definitely the way to go. No VZW bloat and warranty bootloader unlock support!
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There's only 1 published SKU for the US and it supports both GSM and CDMA so I suspect that the unlocked model sold by HTC will indeed work on Verizon and Sprint but the two carriers haven't certified it yet, and likely will want you to purchase a software locked version from them directly. If we can confirm the radios will work, then unlocked is definitely the way to go. No VZW bloat and warranty bootloader unlock support!
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Yeah I will be all over this bad boy if it has full functionality on VZW's network!
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Just preordered my Unlocked Glacier Silver! Hoping I can just pop in my sim from my iPhone 6Plus.. Will update! Seems the darker color is already out of stock. So if you are on fence, might want to act quickly! I am looking forward to see if this works! And to a prospering dev community for it if all goes well for the carrier editions having bootloader unlock!
So far we know the model H933 and that it will come in cloud silver (maybe other colours but website only shows one for now). Also we may not get the V30+ but that is not a big deal since its only more storage.
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones...PiB8PZcedjEkB_zhzUhWH3xmuQHSgsf4aAqHrEALw_wcB
Pricing and release date is still up in the air. My guess is at least $899 or maybe $999. Let hope the former.
Probably will not be bootloader unlockable which is sad...
I will try to modify and update this post as more information becomes available.
Are you getting one???
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Probably will not be bootloader unlockable which is sad...
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If you want bootloader unlocked in Canada, it's the same situation like the LG G6. You will have to get the U.S. carrier unlocked version of the LG V30, which is eligible for official bootloader unlock. It will have all the U.S./Canadian bands.
Here's the LG G6 US997 carrier unlocked bands below. See, if you live in Canada, you would be fine.
U.S. LG G6 CARRIER UNLOCKED
Communications
CDMA 2G CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz
GSM 2G GSM, GPRS, EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
CDMA 3G CDMA2000, EV-DO: 800, 1900 MHz
GSM 3G/3.5G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25 Bands
Wi-Fi Yes, 802.11a/b/g/n/ac
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The carrier unlocked LG V30 will be released probably mid-October, AFTER all the carrier branded models. It will work with all carriers and won't be locked to any. It MAY even have the T-mobile LTE 71 band...in addition to all the bands listed above. But it will at least have all the bands the U.S. carrier unlocked LG G6 has.
LG V30 US998.
Set a Google alert for that model number.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1357369-REG/lg_lgus998_ausasv_lg_v30_us998_64gb.html?email=
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If you want bootloader unlocked in Canada, it's the same situation like the LG G6. You will have to get the U.S. carrier unlocked version of the LG V30, which is eligible for official bootloader unlock. It will have all the U.S./Canadian bands.
Here's the LG G6 US997 carrier unlocked bands below. See, if you live in Canada, you would be fine.
U.S. LG G6 CARRIER UNLOCKED
The carrier unlocked LG V30 will be released probably mid-October, AFTER all the carrier branded models. It will work with all carriers and won't be locked to any. It MAY even have the T-mobile LTE 71 band...in addition to all the bands listed above. But it will at least have all the bands the U.S. carrier unlocked LG G6 has.
LG V30 US998.
Set a Google alert for that model number.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1357369-REG/lg_lgus998_ausasv_lg_v30_us998_64gb.html?email=
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From what I was told when talking to a T-Mobile online rep yesterday. Only the version sold by T-Mobile will have band 66 support and support WiFi Calling. They could be wrong but some of their reps tend to be more knowledgeable than the average rep, at least from my experience.
jcsww said:
From what I was told when talking to a T-Mobile online rep yesterday. Only the version sold by T-Mobile will have band 66 support and support WiFi Calling. They could be wrong but some of their reps tend to be more knowledgeable than the average rep, at least from my experience.
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it's actually band 71 (600 MHz) for T-Mobile new LTE band.
Was discussed in another thread that all the U.S. LG V30 will have the same hardware (antennas), so possibly flashing T-Mobile radio will activate that band on the carrier unlocked version. That's something for a dev to figure out.
ChazzMatt said:
it's actually band 71 (600 MHz) for T-Mobile new LTE band.
Was discussed in another thread that all the U.S. LG V30 will have the same hardware (antennas), so possibly flashing T-Mobile radio will activate that band on the carrier unlocked version. That's something for a dev to figure out.
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Hmmm. I have seen 66, 69, and now 71. I don't care which one it is, I just want to make sure the phone I am considering has it.
Personally, I would ultimately like the dual-SIM version but I value T-Mobile WiFi Calling quite a bit. With one T-Mobile USA SIM and one Telus Canada SIM. I would like to ditch the two phones being carried.
jcsww said:
Hmmm. I have seen 66, 69, and now 71. I don't care which one it is, I just want to make sure the phone I am considering has it.
Personally, I would ultimately like the dual-SIM version but I value T-Mobile WiFi Calling quite a bit. With one T-Mobile USA SIM and one Telus Canada SIM. I would like to ditch the two phones being carried.
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https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
T-Mobile calls 600 MHz LTE BAND 71.
Band 66 is something entirely different. You can read about both there.
milan187 said:
So far we know the model H933 and that it will come in cloud silver (maybe other colours but website only shows one for now). Also we may not get the V30+ but that is not a big deal since its only more storage.
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones...PiB8PZcedjEkB_zhzUhWH3xmuQHSgsf4aAqHrEALw_wcB
Pricing and release date is still up in the air. My guess is at least $899 or maybe $999. Let hope the former.
Probably will not be bootloader unlockable which is sad...
I will try to modify and update this post as more information becomes available.
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Im debating a v30 or a note 8 but want to compare both in hand first.
Neither will be the CAN version since i dont waste money on devices with locked bootloaders
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force70 said:
Im debating a v30 or a note 8 but want to compare both in hand first.
Neither will be the CAN version since i dont waste money on devices with locked bootloaders
sent from my Note FE or S8 Plus (exynos)
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Personally the note 8 is to big and the "artist" side is not for me. I need the best audio. And now rumors for axon 8 are starting so I'm starting to hesitate a bit between the two.
nitramus said:
And now rumors for axon 8 are starting so I'm starting to hesitate a bit between the two.
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Also rumors are ZTE is skipping the 8 label and will call it the Axon 9. To be announced in October.
Yeah, I'm curious about it also. See this page, page 13 of the thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...s-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950/page13
This post in particular:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=73686747
jcsww said:
From what I was told when talking to a T-Mobile online rep yesterday. Only the version sold by T-Mobile will have band 66 support and support WiFi Calling. They could be wrong but some of their reps tend to be more knowledgeable than the average rep, at least from my experience.
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Never listen to carrier reps. They are often clueless.
U.S. carrier unlocked version (US998) will have T-mobile's 600 Mhz LTE band 71.
LG V30 US998 will have ALL the U.S. carrier bands, so you can take it to any carrier you wish -- even T-mobile. Otherwise it would be pointless to have a U.S. unlocked carrier version if there were any carrier bands it did not have.
Confirmed by T-mobile via Twitter. Thanks to @starscalling for giving us the info. I found the Twitter post he saw.
https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/906909686682624000
He says you can buy it "directly from LG unlocked", but you can also buy it online from other retailers like B&H Photo, Amazon, etc. It's the same LG G6 US998 U.S. unlocked carrier model. IF it makes you feel better to buy it from LG, that's fine.
Since we KNOW the U.S. carrier unlocked version will also qualify for LG's REAL bootloader unlock (unlike T-mobile's faux bootloader unlock on the LG G6) THAT is the one to buy.
ChazzMatt said:
Never listen to carrier reps. They are often clueless.
U.S. carrier unlocked version (US998) will have T-mobile's 600 Mhz LTE band 71.
LG V30 US998 will have ALL the U.S. carrier bands, so you can take it to any carrier you wish -- even T-mobile. Otherwise it would be pointless to have a U.S. unlocked carrier version if there were any carrier bands it did not have.
Confirmed by T-mobile via Twitter. Thanks to @starscalling for giving us the info. I found the Twitter post he saw.
https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/906909686682624000
He says you can buy it "directly from LG unlocked", but you can also buy it online from other retailers like B&H Photo, Amazon, etc. It's the same LG G6 US998 U.S. unlocked carrier model. IF it makes you feel better to buy it from LG, that's fine.
Since we KNOW the U.S. carrier unlocked version will also qualify for LG's REAL bootloader unlock (unlike T-mobile's faux bootloader unlock on the LG G6) THAT is the one to buy.
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Hopefully a custom ROM can add the WiFi Calling into the US998 then. I do use it and found it to be the only reliable way to get working cell service on a cruise.
Only thing that sucks about buying the US unlocked model is warranty right?
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Only think that sucks about buying the US unlocked model is warranty right?
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I never think about the warranty. I am in the US for half of the year so getting warranty service, if needed, shouldn't be an issue.
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I never think about the warranty. I am in the US for half of the year so getting warranty service, if needed, shouldn't be an issue.
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For you it works out I guess.
I had to get warranty repairs for both my Pixel and LG G6 recently.
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For you it works out I guess.
I had to get warranty repairs for both my Pixel and LG G6 recently.
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In some cases, the US warranty is valid in North America. Until the device is released though, only LG can confirm the warranty terms.
I bought a Nexus 6P for my girlfriend in Canada from Telus that she uses on AT&T in the US. When she registered the device, it issued her the full US warranty.
according to *someone* (working at Telus !?) the price would be around 1000$ CAN (no plan)
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv30/comments/6zk6z4/lg_v30_confirmed_pricing_in_canada_telus/
Matrix_19 said:
according to *someone* (working at Telus !?) the price would be around 1000$ CAN (no plan)
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv30/comments/6zk6z4/lg_v30_confirmed_pricing_in_canada_telus/
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Sounds about right. That would be $810 U.S. (current currency value as of this moment), but it never translates exactly to the same exact figure, when it goes on sale in other countries. And they would do "$999" or $995" Canadian, not "$1000". Sales psychology.
For U.S. then would be $799, $849, etc. But $1000 Canadia ($810 U.S.) is in the same ballpark as other rumored prices. Over in South Korea, $846 or something but of course tweaked for their currency sweet spot.
Matrix_19 said:
according to *someone* (working at Telus !?) the price would be around 1000$ CAN (no plan)
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv30/comments/6zk6z4/lg_v30_confirmed_pricing_in_canada_telus/
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That's probably a guestimate because Telus is not carrying the V30 unfortunately. Freedom Mobile is the only carrier I am aware of definitely getting it. The V20 when it came out last year was about $950 through them but I have asked already. No pricing or the specific model they will carry as of yet.
ChazzMatt said:
it's actually band 71 (600 MHz) for T-Mobile new LTE band.
Was discussed in another thread that all the U.S. LG V30 will have the same hardware (antennas), so possibly flashing T-Mobile radio will activate that band on the carrier unlocked version. That's something for a dev to figure out.
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Mind providing a link to that discussion?
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Mind providing a link to that discussion?
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Sure, this was the original discussion. But let me explain a couple of things.
First, most OEMs manufacture phones in the most efficient way. For instance, people have been able to enable LTE bands on some phones from Samsung, LG, Sony, etc. because apparently those OEMs first enable all LTE bands (sort of a global phone), then use software to RESTRICT what they don't want for various carriers or regions.
Add Frequency Bands to Your Qualcomm Device
Those of you who travel quite a bit undoubtedly own more than one device due to frequency band restrictions put in place by both carriers / OEMs, as well as local regulatory agencies. It’s common to find regional variants of pretty much the same devices from Sony, LG, Samsung, and other OEMs. And of course, these companies want to turn a profit, so they often sell multiple devices rather than one that can switch between all of its hardware-supported frequency bands. Surprisingly, most phones works pretty well with frequency bands that are not officially supported. In fact, this is often just a software limitation that can be circumvented with tools available on XDA.
If you want to add frequency bands, you need to prepare yourself for lots of reading. The process is not as easy as simply rooting, and requires some tools like QPST and QXDM.
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This is not a new concept. A quick Google search shows more. But that above is from an XDA article, which is developer-centric.
But it's not simply using QPST or QXDM to "enable" those bands, the hardware (antennas) also has to be available. On the Moto XT1225, which I own, many people tried to enable European LTE band 20 but it didn't work for one reason because the antenna didn't support that band. In software, it showed it was enabled but there was no way to transmit or receive that frequency due to lack of antenna support.
Now... what's more realistic? That LG would make a separate AT&T, T-mobile, Sprint, Verizon models -- plus all the Canadian carriers, all with different antennas? -- one make ONE "North America" template and then in a final stage lock out what each carrier doesn't need? The HINT is that they are already going to release a U.S. (actually North America) "carrier unlocked" model weeks after the carrier-branded models -- the LG V30 US 998.
Logic would show for manufacturing efficiency, THIS is really the base model the carriers are selling, including T-mobile. Sprint, AT&T, Verizon, T-mobile and all the Canadian carriers are getting a customized variation of THIS US998. It's just their branded versions have the bands enabled/disabled they specifically need.
Then, the US998 will have ALL the U.S./Canadian bands enabled -- probably including LTE band 71. If it didn't, then it really wouldn't be full "carrier unlocked" version.
Twice, the "management" Twitter account of T-mobile seemingly said the "carrier unlocked" version would have LTE band 71. Which was encouraging.
Then the "customer service" (T-mobile Help) Twitter account has questioned that. Which I laugh at. Customer service reps are typically clueless about what unlocking really means, and also they can't speak for LG. They can only speak for T-Mobile product and usually using scripts to go by. [emoji14] I know more than they do how OEMs like LG make phones. Plus, T-Mobile wants you to buy a T-mobile branded phone, not a carrier unlocked phone straight from LG or some other retailers.
But LG doesn't need T-Mobile "permission" for what LG does with a carrier unlocked version not sold or serviced by T-Mobile.
So, based on past experience and knowledge of the industry, I would bet all the North American LG V30 phones have the same hardware (antennas), and that the carrier unlocked version will either have LTE band 71 at release or hopefully it can be enabled by devs. Here's the discussion link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/t-mobile-600-mhz-lte-band-71-s-carrier-t3671351
Do you know if there are physical differences between the two or if it's just a firmware difference?
Saw this...
Is the unlocked version of the Pixel 6 Pro on the store, Model ID G8V0U or GLUOG? - Google Pixel Community
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Do you know if there are physical differences between the two or if it's just a firmware difference?
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Pixel Phone Simulator
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I know what differences there are on paper, but my question is if the hardware is different, or if there is just some locks.
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I know what differences there are on paper, but my question is if the hardware is different, or if there is just some locks.
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mmWave requires a dedicated antenna, in place of that there is just a useless piece of plastic in the Sub-6 only versions (just watch a couple teardown videos, they'll notice/explain that).
Example
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That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks!
Any ideea if there is a software difference between GLUOG and G8VOU ?
Looking to get G8VOU to use with Bell Canada.
I travel across borser a lot.
I currently have a Note 20 Ultra 5G "U1" version, from US and Bell Canada won't recognize the TAC and cannot get 5G in Canada or register with ATT or Verizon since no IMS registration allowed by Bell Canada because of the XAA CSC. So basically can't use it with Canadian Carriers. No options to flash it with a "W" firmware either. Thank you Samsung.
Looking to leave Samsung and get a Pixel 6 pro but wanted the G8VOU for 260 261 band.
Any thoughts, will the G8VOU will work with Canadian carriers ?
adi2999 said:
Any ideea if there is a software difference between GLUOG and G8VOU ?
Looking to get G8VOU to use with Bell Canada.
I travel across borser a lot.
I currently have a Note 20 Ultra 5G "U1" version, from US and Bell Canada won't recognize the TAC and cannot get 5G in Canada or register with ATT or Verizon since no IMS registration allowed by Bell Canada because of the XAA CSC. So basically can't use it with Canadian Carriers. No options to flash it with a "W" firmware either. Thank you Samsung.
Looking to leave Samsung and get a Pixel 6 pro but wanted the G8VOU for 260 261 band.
Any thoughts, will the G8VOU will work with Canadian carriers ?
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There are no software differences, both variants run the same firmware.
You're gonna be between a rock and a hard place though.
The rock is that you can use the G8V0U on Bell however you might only get 3G.
I checked the IMEI for a Pixel 6 and it said it would be Sub-6 compatible. I checked the IMEI for a Pixel XL and it said it would be LTE compatible. However, when checking with an IMEI for a G8V0U it only said HSPA compatible, nothing about LTE or Sub-6.
No guarantees about LTE support, which by extension means no guarantees about IMS, even if Bell doesn't have whitelists.
The hard place is that if you were to instead get a GLU0G for Sub-6 and IMS support in Canada you'd be on the reverse end of the stick in the US as both AT&T and Verizon operate whitelists.
AT&T only allows the G8V0U for IMS, and because AT&T is an IMS only network now there is no way to use the GLU0G.
Verizon is still running their CDMA network but it doesn't matter because their entire network is whitelisted and they don't allow the GLU0G.
Your best bet if you want a Pixel is to get a Pixel 6 GB7N6 which can be bought unlocked from the Google Store and will work on all networks in the US and Canada although it only has Sub-6 and not mmWave.
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There are no software differences, both variants run the same firmware.
You're gonna be between a rock and a hard place though.
The rock is that you can use the G8V0U on Bell however you might only get 3G.
I checked the IMEI for a Pixel 6 and it said it would be Sub-6 compatible. I checked the IMEI for a Pixel XL and it said it would be LTE compatible. However, when checking with an IMEI for a G8V0U it only said HSPA compatible, nothing about LTE or Sub-6.
No guarantees about LTE support, which by extension means no guarantees about IMS, even if Bell doesn't have whitelists.
The hard place is that if you were to instead get a GLU0G for Sub-6 and IMS support in Canada you'd be on the reverse end of the stick in the US as both AT&T and Verizon operate whitelists.
AT&T only allows the G8V0U for IMS, and because AT&T is an IMS only network now there is no way to use the GLU0G.
Verizon is still running their CDMA network but it doesn't matter because their entire network is whitelisted and they don't allow the GLU0G.
Your best bet if you want a Pixel is to get a Pixel 6 GB7N6 which can be bought unlocked from the Google Store and will work on all networks in the US and Canada although it only has Sub-6 and not mmWave.
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Is this the case for roaming services? I mean with a Bell Sim inside, roaming on a US network ?
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Is this the case for roaming services? I mean with a Bell Sim inside, roaming on a US network ?
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For which hardware?
GLU0G roaming in the US should be supported according to Bell with LTE/VoLTE/Sub-6.
G8V0U roaming in the US will not work because you need IMS, and Bell doesn't provide that with the G8V0U.
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For which hardware?
GLU0G roaming in the US should be supported according to Bell with LTE/VoLTE/Sub-6.
G8V0U roaming in the US will not work because you need IMS, and Bell doesn't provide that with the G8V0U.
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Ok, that is what I was afraid of. I appreciate your reply. I guess no matter if it's Samsung or Google, it has to be a Canadian version in order to avoid all the hassle I am putting up with now.
I am in US now, using Note 20 5G U1, and can only register on Tmobile for voice and get only 3G. ATT will let me register but only getting LTE data and text but cannot place or recieve calls.
Verizon, lets me register for a few seconds then kicks me out.
I was looking for an answer about what device to buy and I was hoping Google's story was going to be different but from what you've described, I see no difference between them.
Bell support was "0" since not a device that they sold.
So I guess I'll have to chose between S22 W and GLU0G.
Wondering if the same goes for Iphone devices ?
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Wondering if the same goes for Iphone devices ?
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iPhones have different variants for countries that haven't certified mmWave or have other frequency restrictions but Apple mandates that carriers support all variants that have basic support for their frequencies.
USA variant iPhones have mmWave that can't be used in Canada. 100% band support on Bell and might miss a single band on others but still work completely fine in Canada.
Canada/Japan variant iPhones don't have mmWave, will 100% work in Canada, have all bands for AT&T and Verizon, except the 11/12 miss a single band on T-Mobile but will still have service.
Both variants will roam in any combination, but a USA variant won't gain mmWave when roaming in the US as Bell doesn't have mmWave roaming contracts with carriers.