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HTC M8 Google Play or Developer Edition: What will you buy?

Well I'm making this thread to see what model of HTC One you guys plan on picking up. The Developers Edition is $649 and will ship today (March 25th, 2013 at 10am PST), whereas according to one article the Google Play Edition is $699 and will be available for pre-order sometime today (presumably at the same 10am PST).
That pricing means the new GPE is $100 more than the last one, whereas the Dev edition is the same price. These models will most likely both be 32GB, and have the same cellular bands. Considering that last years Dev and GPE Ones were only fully usable on AT&T, it's quite possible that this may be the case again (however unfortunate this is, to me this is no problem as I use AT&T ). Personally, I'm leaning towards the Dev edition simply because I think the new sense looks nice and they always did multitasking a little better than stock. Oh, and it's available today .
I'd be really interested to know what the pros over here are vouching for and why, so let us know!

SolarTrans said:
Well I'm making this thread to see what model of HTC One you guys plan on picking up. The Developers Edition is $649 and will ship today (March 25th, 2013 at 10am PST), whereas according to one article the Google Play Edition is $699 and will be available for pre-order sometime today (presumably at the same 10am PST).
That pricing means the new GPE is $100 more than the last one, whereas the Dev edition is the same price. These models will most likely both be 32GB, and have the same cellular bands. Considering that last years Dev and GPE Ones were only fully usable on AT&T, it's quite possible that this may be the case again (however unfortunate this is, to me this is no problem as I use AT&T ). Personally, I'm leaning towards the Dev edition simply because I think the new sense looks nice and they always did multitasking a little better than stock. Oh, and it's available today .
I'd be really interested to know what the pros over here are vouching for and why, so let us know!
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Hopefully it has AWS compatibility

kirdroid said:
Hopefully it has AWS compatibility
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Yeah that would put it in so many more people's hands!

I would choose the dev edition over the GPE edition since I am not a huge fan of pure android since it's really too simple. Sense is the best between the two. I like TW since it has all the features, but HTC is slowly catching up. Both have unlocked bootloaders anyways.

kirdroid said:
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Well, the GPe says it has AWS on HSPA, but the Developer Edition makes no mention of it. Please, oh please HTC, don't screw this up again. I used my HTC One Developer Edition on T-Mobile last year and it really ruined the experience for me when I saw that "Edge" notification
Let's hope the hardware is the same for GPe and Developer Edition. I'm going to order one now.
-Collin-

I'm would like to go for the GPE, but does anyone know for sure that the GPE version will support T Mobile 4G LTE? I'm not sure if I'm looking at the specs of the phone on the Google Play site correctly when comparing them to the various bands that T Mobile uses.
(I'm jumping ship from Sprint after many, many years, so I'm not fully up on the GSM stuff...)

CollinFX45 said:
Well, the GPe says it has AWS on HSPA, but the Developer Edition makes no mention of it. Please, oh please HTC, don't screw this up again. I used my HTC One Developer Edition on T-Mobile last year and it really ruined the experience for me when I saw that "Edge" notification
Let's hope the hardware is the same for GPe and Developer Edition. I'm going to order one now.
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It's odd that it doesn't list AWS on 3G
Unlocked GSM/UMTS/HSPA+/LTE
GSM/GPRS/EDGE quad-band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA/UMTS quad-band 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz
3G (850, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSDPA 21, HSUPA 5.76
4G LTE (700 MHz, AWS)
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Looks like the AT&T model (with 21 Mbps HSDPA) but with HSPA AWS enabled.
Over at Android Police they have a different spec set for the GPE:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
WCDMA: 850/AWS/1900/2100 with HSPA+ up to 21Mbps​
LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 (B17/B5//B4/B2, carrier aggregation B4+17;B2+17), + Roaming 2600/1800 (B7/B3)
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If they're to be believed, the 700 Mhz in the GPE is for AT&T (17) and will not support T-Mobile's newly acquired spectrum (12).
The T-Mobile version has HSDPA 42:
Tmus: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Tmus: 700/AWS MHz
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And I would assume the 700 Mhz in this would be Band 12.
Again, HTC screws over T-Mobile users, but, not as bad as with the M7.
Edit: Had a little chat with HTC Support about the Dev edition, and according to Frank, the Dev version has these frequencies:
GSM /GPRS /EDGE : 850/900/1800/1900 MHz WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz CDMA: 800/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1) LTE: 700/AWS/1800/2600MHz
Meaning yes for Sprint and AT&T, but no for T-Mobile.

nviz22 said:
I would choose the dev edition over the GPE edition since I am not a huge fan of pure android since it's really too simple. Sense is the best between the two. I like TW since it has all the features, but HTC is slowly catching up. Both have unlocked bootloaders anyways.
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^This. I agree that there really isn't much to stock Android. With sense you get the tap on/off features this time around, and those are really nice from what I've heard. I ordered my dev edition with 2 day shipping and can't wait!

kirdroid said:
Hopefully it has AWS compatibility
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havanahjoe said:
It's odd that it doesn't list AWS on 3G
Looks like the AT&T model (with 21 Mbps HSDPA) but with HSPA AWS enabled.
Over at Android Police they have a different spec set for the GPE:
If they're to be believed, the 700 Mhz in the GPE is for AT&T (17) and will not support T-Mobile's newly acquired spectrum (12).
The T-Mobile version has HSDPA 42:
And I would assume the 700 Mhz in this would be Band 12.
Again, HTC screws over T-Mobile users, but, not as bad as with the M7.
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Guys, I take whatever CS reps say with a grain of salt, but I just called "Let's Talk" and asked how to get the "Free Express Shipping" listed on the HTC page. The kind (sarcasm) rep informed me that he didn't know, nor did he know exactly when it would ship. His best guess was April 3rd, which is pretty random.
I'm curious if you all get shipping confirmations today. He was 100% certain the phone wouldn't ship today because they're not "allowed to order it from HTC until tomorrow."
Again, take it with a grain of salt, but that was what I was told after calling. I've decided to sit tight on my order until I A) know when it's going to ship and B) it has T-Mobile's AWS 3G band. Good point about the 700mhz being Band 12 instead of Band 17...that makes the phone somewhat useless for AT&T, which sometimes I have to use when I am getting crummy T-Mobile service at work. Argh!
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CollinFX45 said:
Guys, I take whatever CS reps say with a grain of salt, but I just called "Let's Talk" and asked how to get the "Free Express Shipping" listed on the HTC page. The kind (sarcasm) rep informed me that he didn't know, nor did he know exactly when it would ship. His best guess was April 3rd, which is pretty random.
I'm curious if you all get shipping confirmations today. He was 100% certain the phone wouldn't ship today because they're not "allowed to order it from HTC until tomorrow."
Again, take it with a grain of salt, but that was what I was told after calling. I've decided to sit tight on my order until I A) know when it's going to ship and B) it has T-Mobile's AWS 3G band. Good point about the 700mhz being Band 12 instead of Band 17...that makes the phone somewhat useless for AT&T, which sometimes I have to use when I am getting crummy T-Mobile service at work. Argh!
-Collin-
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Of course, that chat with HTC comes with a heaping cupfull of salt. I wouldn't be surprised though, it would match what they did with the M7.
The GPe does have Band 17, it doesn't have 12. So the GPe edition is 100% compatible with AT&T.

Google's website sure says there's T-Mobile compatibility... AWS band could be why it's $50 more lol. But really, no one should have to use Edge these days on a flagship.

Ordered my Dev Edition earlier. I called because I wanted to ship it to my office. She mentioned that they will only ship to my billing address. She also mentioned that they will not ship until 4/3. Also, they will need to call you to verify the order as well (Since I called in, they did this all at the same time.) As mentioned in a previous reply, this is exactly what happened last year for the HTC One M7 Dev Edition as well.

EvoKnvl said:
Ordered my Dev Edition earlier. I called because I wanted to ship it to my office. She mentioned that they will only ship to my billing address. She also mentioned that they will not ship until 4/3. Also, they will need to call you to verify the order as well (Since I called in, they did this all at the same time.) As mentioned in a previous reply, this is exactly what happened last year for the HTC One M7 Dev Edition as well.
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I called as well, to verify and change to overnight shipping. She said that someone accidentally made the Developer's Edition available to purchase today when it's supposed to be available at midnight tonight. Also, she said that because I'm under 18, she had to cancel the order and have me try again with an adult's card after midnight tonight. This was after I was put on hold for 30 minutes. With the M7 Dev Edition it said I needed to call, but it actually shipped with me not doing anything. I am pretty mad about this customer service, and if the device won't ship until 4/3 (which I was not told), I don't know if I'll buy one at all.

Would HTC really exclude AWS band from the Developer Edition? What's the advantage to that? I feel like it'd only anger customers. Makes no sense

CollinFX45 said:
Guys, I take whatever CS reps say with a grain of salt, but I just called "Let's Talk" and asked how to get the "Free Express Shipping" listed on the HTC page. The kind (sarcasm) rep informed me that he didn't know, nor did he know exactly when it would ship. His best guess was April 3rd, which is pretty random.
I'm curious if you all get shipping confirmations today. He was 100% certain the phone wouldn't ship today because they're not "allowed to order it from HTC until tomorrow."
Again, take it with a grain of salt, but that was what I was told after calling. I've decided to sit tight on my order until I A) know when it's going to ship and B) it has T-Mobile's AWS 3G band. Good point about the 700mhz being Band 12 instead of Band 17...that makes the phone somewhat useless for AT&T, which sometimes I have to use when I am getting crummy T-Mobile service at work. Argh!
-Collin-
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How's your Nokia Lumia 1520.3 holding up? You fixed the tether?

Here's a conversation I had with an HTC representative online. Hopefully it means the developer edition will run fine on T-Mobile
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Have they said if Developer or Google Play Edition is coming to the UK? Can't find any details yet.

I'm probably missing something really simple, but where do we order the developer edition from. When I click on the buy link on the U.S. HTC website it only gives me options for the carrier orders.

bormasina said:
How's your Nokia Lumia 1520.3 holding up? You fixed the tether?
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It's fantastic! I use it as my weekend phone and yes, tether was resolved with the Spanish keyboard "hack."
Is your user ID the same on WP Central?
-Collin-

Couldn't resist waiting for stupid TMobile to release their version, just pre-ordered the Google play edition.
Say 2 - 3 weeks for delivery but I think they will start shipping earlier than that hopefully next week.
If i get some solid confirmation that the developer edition has AWS band, then I may cancel the google play one and order the developer edition when it goes live later.

[Q] T-Mobile LG G4 (H811) on AT&T/Cricket, am I missing anything?

Posted this in the TMobile release thread but hasn't gotten any responses (might be the wrong place for such a question). Someone on another place I frequent posted this and I'm wondering if it's something one should be concerned about or if the bands missing are pretty much useless and won't make a difference to me? If it will be an issue for me, I will return the phone and wait for the official AT&T one to be released.
Thanks!
It will work in tmobile, yes. But won't you be losing some bands cricket/att use? I use cricket too and was trying to get the international model for this reason. With the tmobile version your missing some of the 3g and LTE bands that att uses.
H810 AT&T
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
UMTS 850/1900/2100
LTE Bands 2, 4, 5, 17, 29, Roaming 1, 3, 7, and CA
H811 T-Mobile USA
UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100)
LTE: Band: 2, 4, 7, 12, 17;
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It won't make a difference.

Thanks for asking this question as I am bout to do the same. Just want to be sure that I will be OK w the T-Mobile phone on AT&T. I live in NY and will be using the phone mostly in the USA. If anyone has done this, your feedback would be appreciated!

IlyaKol said:
Posted this in the TMobile release thread but hasn't gotten any responses (might be the wrong place for such a question). Someone on another place I frequent posted this and I'm wondering if it's something one should be concerned about or if the bands missing are pretty much useless and won't make a difference to me? If it will be an issue for me, I will return the phone and wait for the official AT&T one to be released.
Thanks!
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There is no release thread for this phone by carrier yet?...

IlyaKol said:
Posted this in the TMobile release thread but hasn't gotten any responses (might be the wrong place for such a question). Someone on another place I frequent posted this and I'm wondering if it's something one should be concerned about or if the bands missing are pretty much useless and won't make a difference to me? If it will be an issue for me, I will return the phone and wait for the official AT&T one to be released.
Thanks!
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Looking at your list, if you use a T-Mobile G4 on AT&T you will not get LTE bands 5 or 29, or GSM 850/900/1800.

Dennisg34 said:
There is no release thread for this phone by carrier yet?...
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It's in the general sub-forum. Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/t-mobile-version-available-t3119636
geoff5093 said:
Looking at your list, if you use a T-Mobile G4 on AT&T you will not get LTE bands 5 or 29, or GSM 850/900/1800.
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I know but my question is will this degrade performance or affect my ability to use data and voice, etc.? I don't understand anything about bands.

IlyaKol said:
I know, but my question is will this degrade performance or affect my ability to use data and voice, etc.? I don't understand anything about bands.
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AT&T uses bands 2/4/5/17/29/30 for LTE and 850/1900 for GSM. If you use a T-Mobile G4 on AT&T, going by your first post, you will not get LTE bands 5 or 29 or 850 for GSM.
This means is you will not be able to take advantage of AT&T's 850MHz LTE or 700MHz lower D/E LTE spectrum, or 850MHz GSM. AT&T's main bands are 5 and 17, so in some areas you will get reduced LTE performance, especially indoors and when far from the tower. You may run into markets that you only get 2G/3G in as well if they are using only bands 5 and/or 29.
In short, it will work, but it's not ideal.

geoff5093 said:
AT&T uses bands 2/4/5/17/29/30 for LTE and 850/1900 for GSM. If you use a T-Mobile G4 on AT&T, going by your first post, you will not get LTE bands 5 or 29 or 850 for GSM.
This means is you will not be able to take advantage of AT&T's 850MHz LTE or 700MHz lower D/E LTE spectrum, or 850MHz GSM. AT&T's main bands are 5 and 17, so in some areas you will get reduced LTE performance, especially indoors and when far from the tower. You may run into markets that you only get 2G/3G in as well if they are using only bands 5 and/or 29.
In short, it will work, but it's not ideal.
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The B/I/U text is the answer I was looking for. I appreciate it.
I'm going to rock it for a few days until the AT&T phone comes out and return the T-Mobile one since I have 14 days to do so.

IlyaKol said:
The B/I/U text is the answer I was looking for. I appreciate it.
I'm going to rock it for a few days until the AT&T phone comes out and return the T-Mobile one since I have 14 days to do so.
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Depending on your market, you may be perfectly fine, since you have the T-Mobile version I'd wait and see how happy you are with the service. The AT&T G4 costs a lot more.

Well, it just came. So I'll test it out with my Cricket SIM and see how it goes. But I'm leaning towards swapping it out.

Update, probably last one.
1) Put my Cricket SIM into the new LG G4.
2) Got a message saying phone was locked to network. Call support to get it unlocked.
3) Called support and they said because I don't have a T-Mobile account, they cannot unlock it. I'd need to go through a 3rd party to do that. BUT, if I do that, I can no longer return the phone.
I'm not going to bother with 3rd Parties and will just get an AT&T phone which will allow me to use my Cricket SIM without issue, plus have all of the missing bands. So, I am starting the return process on my T-Mobile LG G4, unless someone wants to buy it from me?

thanks for reporting all this. I'm on att but am out of contract, deciding if i upgrade to the att g4 or switch to tmo and upgrade there.
still not decided but I'm definitely not going to run the tmo on att, because my signal at home is 1 bar of lte if I'm lucky. the only hold back is obviously the bootloader. I've never had a stock phone for more than a day, eeesh.

VR32 said:
thanks for reporting all this. I'm on att but am out of contract, deciding if i upgrade to the att g4 or switch to tmo and upgrade there.
still not decided but I'm definitely not going to run the tmo on att, because my signal at home is 1 bar of lte if I'm lucky. the only hold back is obviously the bootloader. I've never had a stock phone for more than a day, eeesh.
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No problem. That's why we're all here.
Same here. Now that I'm going to be waiting till June 5th for the G4 (AT&T release date), I'm hoping some progress is made in the next week for unlocking the bootloader. Must have root (for XPosed and a bunch of other apps).

IlyaKol said:
No problem. That's why we're all here.
Same here. Now that I'm going to be waiting till June 5th for the G4 (AT&T release date), I'm hoping some progress is made in the next week for unlocking the bootloader. Must have root (for XPosed and a bunch of other apps).
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I did the att preorder last week. I'm kind of hoping since I'll get it later that there will be root and stuff by the time I get it too lol.

frigidazzi said:
I did the att preorder last week. I'm kind of hoping since I'll get it later that there will be root and stuff by the time I get it too lol.
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Lol good luck with root in one week before phones are officially released.
Sent from my S5 using your mom

Dennisg34 said:
Lol good luck with root in one week before phones are officially released.
Sent from my S5 using your mom
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It comes out on June 13 at best buy. Over a week after att stores. So that's a week after it releases. Not before

frigidazzi said:
It comes out on June 13 at best buy. Over a week after att stores. So that's a week after it releases. Not before
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I spoke to the guy at my local AT&T store who said they aren't doing an official pre-order but that he'll put me on the list to reserve one and I'll come get it when it arrives.

Man, I'm so indecisive lol. This is by far the 'craziest' a phone has gotten me since smart phones were invented.
I scrapped my plan of getting an AT&T H810 (which would work perfectly with my Cricket SIM) and decided to spend a tad bit more ($60 or so) and get a fully unlocked H815 model that has all the AT&T bands + others. Ordered it on EBay, should be here by the 4th which is actually a day earlier than the AT&T release (which is June 5th).

IlyaKol said:
Man, I'm so indecisive lol. This is by far the 'craziest' a phone has gotten me since smart phones were invented.
I scrapped my plan of getting an AT&T H810 (which would work perfectly with my Cricket SIM) and decided to spend a tad bit more ($60 or so) and get a fully unlocked H815 model that has all the AT&T bands + others. Ordered it on EBay, should be here by the 4th which is actually a day earlier than the AT&T release (which is June 5th).
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Are you still eligible for the free battery and such from lg?

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Are you still eligible for the free battery and such from lg?
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Not sure. I'll try the links for the promo's when I get the device...and find out.

Verizon Pixel XL on AT&T - Do bands 12/17 work?

Can someone put an AT&T Sim into their Verizon Pixel XL and let us know if Bands 12/17 are showing up?
Use the app LTE Discovery to check.
Thanks in advance.

MrBaltazar said:
Can someone put an AT&T Sim into their Verizon Pixel XL and let us know if Bands 12/17 are showing up?
Use the app LTE Discovery to check.
Thanks in advance.
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I didn't test there but there's no reason why they wouldn't work. It the exact same hardware, same baseband. Only difference is that the VZW version has a locked bootloader. Google and VZW have been clear about this: it's the same phone other than the bootloader.

RomPlinker said:
I didn't test there but there's no reason why they wouldn't work. It the exact same hardware, same baseband. Only difference is that the VZW version has a locked bootloader. Google and VZW have been clear about this: it's the same phone other than the bootloader.
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Verizon locked the LTE bands on the S7 and S7 Edge to only theirs. I had to flash AT&T firmware to use the AT&T bands. It's high possibility they locked the band's on the pixel since they locked the bootloader

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Can someone put an AT&T Sim into their Verizon Pixel XL and let us know if Bands 12/17 are showing up?
Use the app LTE Discovery to check.
Thanks in advance.
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VZW Pixel XL jumped on Band 12 no problem with a Tmobile sim. So it appears the band isn't disabled on the phone.
Unsure of 17. Don't have a ATT sim to test with. But 17 is a subset of 12. So in theory. It should be unlocked.
Can confirm band 12 WAS disabled on my Note 7 (VZW). Doesn't appear they gimped the Pixel's.
Proof.
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NickOlsen8390 said:
VZW Pixel XL jumped on Band 12 no problem with a Tmobile sim. So it appears the band isn't disabled on the phone.
Unsure of 17. Don't have a ATT sim to test with. But 17 is a subset of 12. So in theory. It should be unlocked.
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You are correct that 17 is a subset of 12 - but they are advertised as different bands by the enodeb unless using the multi-frequency band indicator. I don't believe mfbi is widely deployed outside of lab testing these days.
That said on AT&T's RAN my device (non-VZW pixel xl) will latch onto AT&T's band 17 (addressing it as band 17, and not as a subset of 12. E.g. it's using 17 earfcn's).

RomPlinker said:
You are correct that 17 is a subset of 12 - but they are advertised as different bands by the enodeb unless using the multi-frequency band indicator. I don't believe mfbi is widely deployed outside of lab testing these days.
That said on AT&T's RAN my device (non-VZW pixel xl) will latch onto AT&T's band 17 (addressing it as band 17, and not as a subset of 12. E.g. it's using 17 earfcn's).
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Interesting. I remember reading ATT was the one using MFBI as part of them picking up US Cellulars Band 12. And wanting to allow Band 12 only phones to associate to Band 17. Perhaps they've disabled that as they've gotten US Cellular phones out of peoples hands.
Thanks for the info!

MrBaltazar said:
Verizon locked the LTE bands on the S7 and S7 Edge to only theirs. I had to flash AT&T firmware to use the AT&T bands. It's high possibility they locked the band's on the pixel since they locked the bootloader
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Here you go straight from Zdnet:
Verizon's advertising campaign would like to make you think the Pixel is only available in the US from the carrier, but the truth is you can purchase the Pixel directly from Google or at Best Buy. All Pixel phones are unlocked and will work on all major US carriers.
Google sent me a Pixel XL with a Verizon Wireless SIM card, and I was able to switch between Verizon and my personal AT&T SIM card without any issue.

NickOlsen8390 said:
Interesting. I remember reading ATT was the one using MFBI as part of them picking up US Cellulars Band 12. And wanting to allow Band 12 only phones to associate to Band 17. Perhaps they've disabled that as they've gotten US Cellular phones out of peoples hands.
Thanks for the info!
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I didn't think (but I could be wrong) they've widely deployed it yet - but I'm sure they will. There's an FCC mandate. Either way, it looks like your answer is solved. The VZW pixel is known to work at least on band 12, and I've confirmed that I'm camping on a band 17 earfcn at this time with mine (there would be no reason for them to restrict 17 if they weren't restricting 12).

RomPlinker said:
I didn't think (but I could be wrong) they've widely deployed it yet - but I'm sure they will. There's an FCC mandate. Either way, it looks like your answer is solved. The VZW pixel is known to work at least on band 12, and I've confirmed that I'm camping on a band 17 earfcn at this time with mine (there would be no reason for them to restrict 17 if they weren't restricting 12).
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Thank you for confirmation of band 17. It is a subset of 12

jawmail said:
Here you go straight from Zdnet:
Verizon's advertising campaign would like to make you think the Pixel is only available in the US from the carrier, but the truth is you can purchase the Pixel directly from Google or at Best Buy. All Pixel phones are unlocked and will work on all major US carriers.
Google sent me a Pixel XL with a Verizon Wireless SIM card, and I was able to switch between Verizon and my personal AT&T SIM card without any issue.
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Please confirm your att LTE band with LTE Discovery app. You may be on band 3 also

NickOlsen8390 said:
VZW Pixel XL jumped on Band 12 no problem with a Tmobile sim. So it appears the band isn't disabled on the phone.
Unsure of 17. Don't have a ATT sim to test with. But 17 is a subset of 12. So in theory. It should be unlocked.
Can confirm band 12 WAS disabled on my Note 7 (VZW). Doesn't appear they gimped the Pixel's.
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Yes this confirms 12 and 17 are unlocked compared to the Samsung devices which I only got band 3 in rural areas with (because 3 is shared between Verizon and AT&T, thus unlocked)
Thank you for having experience with the note 7 and comparing the two. I had a note 7 and went with the s7 edge but may be trading it in for the Pixel XL. Just wanted to verify LTE bands. Thank you again for posting this

ONLY h+ FOR ME

I took the SIM Card from my daughters iPhone and used it on the Pixel. I had LTE with 25mbps down and 12mbps up. Texting and MMS worked. Didn't try the Advanced Calling. I know these are different for each carrier.

rmckenney23 said:
I took the SIM Card from my daughters iPhone and used it on the Pixel. I had LTE with 25mbps down and 12mbps up. Texting and MMS worked. Didn't try the Advanced Calling. I know these are different for each carrier.
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What carrier? Also please run LTE Discovery from the app store and check the band it's using

I'm using a ATT Sim Card for a Verizon Model I bought from Best Buy. Works perfectly for me.. It shows Band 17 in LTE Discovery
http://imgur.com/GEcBxMr

I got my hands on an ATT SIM Yesterday. Band 17 is usable on the VZW pixel as expected.

NickOlsen8390 said:
I got my hands on an ATT SIM Yesterday. Band 17 is usable on the VZW pixel as expected.
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This is perfect. Thanks for your effort

V30 Canadian version H933

So far we know the model H933 and that it will come in cloud silver (maybe other colours but website only shows one for now). Also we may not get the V30+ but that is not a big deal since its only more storage.
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones...PiB8PZcedjEkB_zhzUhWH3xmuQHSgsf4aAqHrEALw_wcB
Pricing and release date is still up in the air. My guess is at least $899 or maybe $999. Let hope the former.
Probably will not be bootloader unlockable which is sad...
I will try to modify and update this post as more information becomes available.
Are you getting one???

milan187 said:
Probably will not be bootloader unlockable which is sad...
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If you want bootloader unlocked in Canada, it's the same situation like the LG G6. You will have to get the U.S. carrier unlocked version of the LG V30, which is eligible for official bootloader unlock. It will have all the U.S./Canadian bands.
Here's the LG G6 US997 carrier unlocked bands below. See, if you live in Canada, you would be fine.
U.S. LG G6 CARRIER UNLOCKED
Communications
CDMA 2G CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz
GSM 2G GSM, GPRS, EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
CDMA 3G CDMA2000, EV-DO: 800, 1900 MHz
GSM 3G/3.5G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 20, 25 Bands
Wi-Fi Yes, 802.11a/b/g/n/ac
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The carrier unlocked LG V30 will be released probably mid-October, AFTER all the carrier branded models. It will work with all carriers and won't be locked to any. It MAY even have the T-mobile LTE 71 band...in addition to all the bands listed above. But it will at least have all the bands the U.S. carrier unlocked LG G6 has.
LG V30 US998.
Set a Google alert for that model number.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1357369-REG/lg_lgus998_ausasv_lg_v30_us998_64gb.html?email=
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ChazzMatt said:
If you want bootloader unlocked in Canada, it's the same situation like the LG G6. You will have to get the U.S. carrier unlocked version of the LG V30, which is eligible for official bootloader unlock. It will have all the U.S./Canadian bands.
Here's the LG G6 US997 carrier unlocked bands below. See, if you live in Canada, you would be fine.
U.S. LG G6 CARRIER UNLOCKED
The carrier unlocked LG V30 will be released probably mid-October, AFTER all the carrier branded models. It will work with all carriers and won't be locked to any. It MAY even have the T-mobile LTE 71 band...in addition to all the bands listed above. But it will at least have all the bands the U.S. carrier unlocked LG G6 has.
LG V30 US998.
Set a Google alert for that model number.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1357369-REG/lg_lgus998_ausasv_lg_v30_us998_64gb.html?email=
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From what I was told when talking to a T-Mobile online rep yesterday. Only the version sold by T-Mobile will have band 66 support and support WiFi Calling. They could be wrong but some of their reps tend to be more knowledgeable than the average rep, at least from my experience.

jcsww said:
From what I was told when talking to a T-Mobile online rep yesterday. Only the version sold by T-Mobile will have band 66 support and support WiFi Calling. They could be wrong but some of their reps tend to be more knowledgeable than the average rep, at least from my experience.
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it's actually band 71 (600 MHz) for T-Mobile new LTE band.
Was discussed in another thread that all the U.S. LG V30 will have the same hardware (antennas), so possibly flashing T-Mobile radio will activate that band on the carrier unlocked version. That's something for a dev to figure out.

ChazzMatt said:
it's actually band 71 (600 MHz) for T-Mobile new LTE band.
Was discussed in another thread that all the U.S. LG V30 will have the same hardware (antennas), so possibly flashing T-Mobile radio will activate that band on the carrier unlocked version. That's something for a dev to figure out.
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Hmmm. I have seen 66, 69, and now 71. I don't care which one it is, I just want to make sure the phone I am considering has it.
Personally, I would ultimately like the dual-SIM version but I value T-Mobile WiFi Calling quite a bit. With one T-Mobile USA SIM and one Telus Canada SIM. I would like to ditch the two phones being carried.

jcsww said:
Hmmm. I have seen 66, 69, and now 71. I don't care which one it is, I just want to make sure the phone I am considering has it.
Personally, I would ultimately like the dual-SIM version but I value T-Mobile WiFi Calling quite a bit. With one T-Mobile USA SIM and one Telus Canada SIM. I would like to ditch the two phones being carried.
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https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
T-Mobile calls 600 MHz LTE BAND 71.
Band 66 is something entirely different. You can read about both there.

milan187 said:
So far we know the model H933 and that it will come in cloud silver (maybe other colours but website only shows one for now). Also we may not get the V30+ but that is not a big deal since its only more storage.
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones...PiB8PZcedjEkB_zhzUhWH3xmuQHSgsf4aAqHrEALw_wcB
Pricing and release date is still up in the air. My guess is at least $899 or maybe $999. Let hope the former.
Probably will not be bootloader unlockable which is sad...
I will try to modify and update this post as more information becomes available.
Are you getting one???
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Im debating a v30 or a note 8 but want to compare both in hand first.
Neither will be the CAN version since i dont waste money on devices with locked bootloaders
sent from my Note FE or S8 Plus (exynos)

force70 said:
Im debating a v30 or a note 8 but want to compare both in hand first.
Neither will be the CAN version since i dont waste money on devices with locked bootloaders
sent from my Note FE or S8 Plus (exynos)
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Personally the note 8 is to big and the "artist" side is not for me. I need the best audio. And now rumors for axon 8 are starting so I'm starting to hesitate a bit between the two.

nitramus said:
And now rumors for axon 8 are starting so I'm starting to hesitate a bit between the two.
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Also rumors are ZTE is skipping the 8 label and will call it the Axon 9. To be announced in October.
Yeah, I'm curious about it also. See this page, page 13 of the thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...s-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950/page13
This post in particular:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=73686747

jcsww said:
From what I was told when talking to a T-Mobile online rep yesterday. Only the version sold by T-Mobile will have band 66 support and support WiFi Calling. They could be wrong but some of their reps tend to be more knowledgeable than the average rep, at least from my experience.
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Never listen to carrier reps. They are often clueless.
U.S. carrier unlocked version (US998) will have T-mobile's 600 Mhz LTE band 71.
LG V30 US998 will have ALL the U.S. carrier bands, so you can take it to any carrier you wish -- even T-mobile. Otherwise it would be pointless to have a U.S. unlocked carrier version if there were any carrier bands it did not have.
Confirmed by T-mobile via Twitter. Thanks to @starscalling for giving us the info. I found the Twitter post he saw.
https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/906909686682624000
He says you can buy it "directly from LG unlocked", but you can also buy it online from other retailers like B&H Photo, Amazon, etc. It's the same LG G6 US998 U.S. unlocked carrier model. IF it makes you feel better to buy it from LG, that's fine.
Since we KNOW the U.S. carrier unlocked version will also qualify for LG's REAL bootloader unlock (unlike T-mobile's faux bootloader unlock on the LG G6) THAT is the one to buy.

ChazzMatt said:
Never listen to carrier reps. They are often clueless.
U.S. carrier unlocked version (US998) will have T-mobile's 600 Mhz LTE band 71.
LG V30 US998 will have ALL the U.S. carrier bands, so you can take it to any carrier you wish -- even T-mobile. Otherwise it would be pointless to have a U.S. unlocked carrier version if there were any carrier bands it did not have.
Confirmed by T-mobile via Twitter. Thanks to @starscalling for giving us the info. I found the Twitter post he saw.
https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/906909686682624000
He says you can buy it "directly from LG unlocked", but you can also buy it online from other retailers like B&H Photo, Amazon, etc. It's the same LG G6 US998 U.S. unlocked carrier model. IF it makes you feel better to buy it from LG, that's fine.
Since we KNOW the U.S. carrier unlocked version will also qualify for LG's REAL bootloader unlock (unlike T-mobile's faux bootloader unlock on the LG G6) THAT is the one to buy.
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Hopefully a custom ROM can add the WiFi Calling into the US998 then. I do use it and found it to be the only reliable way to get working cell service on a cruise.

Only thing that sucks about buying the US unlocked model is warranty right?

milan187 said:
Only think that sucks about buying the US unlocked model is warranty right?
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I never think about the warranty. I am in the US for half of the year so getting warranty service, if needed, shouldn't be an issue.

jcsww said:
I never think about the warranty. I am in the US for half of the year so getting warranty service, if needed, shouldn't be an issue.
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For you it works out I guess.
I had to get warranty repairs for both my Pixel and LG G6 recently.

milan187 said:
For you it works out I guess.
I had to get warranty repairs for both my Pixel and LG G6 recently.
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In some cases, the US warranty is valid in North America. Until the device is released though, only LG can confirm the warranty terms.
I bought a Nexus 6P for my girlfriend in Canada from Telus that she uses on AT&T in the US. When she registered the device, it issued her the full US warranty.

according to *someone* (working at Telus !?) the price would be around 1000$ CAN (no plan)
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv30/comments/6zk6z4/lg_v30_confirmed_pricing_in_canada_telus/

Matrix_19 said:
according to *someone* (working at Telus !?) the price would be around 1000$ CAN (no plan)
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv30/comments/6zk6z4/lg_v30_confirmed_pricing_in_canada_telus/
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Sounds about right. That would be $810 U.S. (current currency value as of this moment), but it never translates exactly to the same exact figure, when it goes on sale in other countries. And they would do "$999" or $995" Canadian, not "$1000". Sales psychology.
For U.S. then would be $799, $849, etc. But $1000 Canadia ($810 U.S.) is in the same ballpark as other rumored prices. Over in South Korea, $846 or something but of course tweaked for their currency sweet spot.

Matrix_19 said:
according to *someone* (working at Telus !?) the price would be around 1000$ CAN (no plan)
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv30/comments/6zk6z4/lg_v30_confirmed_pricing_in_canada_telus/
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That's probably a guestimate because Telus is not carrying the V30 unfortunately. Freedom Mobile is the only carrier I am aware of definitely getting it. The V20 when it came out last year was about $950 through them but I have asked already. No pricing or the specific model they will carry as of yet.

ChazzMatt said:
it's actually band 71 (600 MHz) for T-Mobile new LTE band.
Was discussed in another thread that all the U.S. LG V30 will have the same hardware (antennas), so possibly flashing T-Mobile radio will activate that band on the carrier unlocked version. That's something for a dev to figure out.
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Mind providing a link to that discussion?
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

eventhorizon13 said:
Mind providing a link to that discussion?
Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
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Sure, this was the original discussion. But let me explain a couple of things.
First, most OEMs manufacture phones in the most efficient way. For instance, people have been able to enable LTE bands on some phones from Samsung, LG, Sony, etc. because apparently those OEMs first enable all LTE bands (sort of a global phone), then use software to RESTRICT what they don't want for various carriers or regions.
Add Frequency Bands to Your Qualcomm Device
Those of you who travel quite a bit undoubtedly own more than one device due to frequency band restrictions put in place by both carriers / OEMs, as well as local regulatory agencies. It’s common to find regional variants of pretty much the same devices from Sony, LG, Samsung, and other OEMs. And of course, these companies want to turn a profit, so they often sell multiple devices rather than one that can switch between all of its hardware-supported frequency bands. Surprisingly, most phones works pretty well with frequency bands that are not officially supported. In fact, this is often just a software limitation that can be circumvented with tools available on XDA.
If you want to add frequency bands, you need to prepare yourself for lots of reading. The process is not as easy as simply rooting, and requires some tools like QPST and QXDM.
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This is not a new concept. A quick Google search shows more. But that above is from an XDA article, which is developer-centric.
But it's not simply using QPST or QXDM to "enable" those bands, the hardware (antennas) also has to be available. On the Moto XT1225, which I own, many people tried to enable European LTE band 20 but it didn't work for one reason because the antenna didn't support that band. In software, it showed it was enabled but there was no way to transmit or receive that frequency due to lack of antenna support.
Now... what's more realistic? That LG would make a separate AT&T, T-mobile, Sprint, Verizon models -- plus all the Canadian carriers, all with different antennas? -- one make ONE "North America" template and then in a final stage lock out what each carrier doesn't need? The HINT is that they are already going to release a U.S. (actually North America) "carrier unlocked" model weeks after the carrier-branded models -- the LG V30 US 998.
Logic would show for manufacturing efficiency, THIS is really the base model the carriers are selling, including T-mobile. Sprint, AT&T, Verizon, T-mobile and all the Canadian carriers are getting a customized variation of THIS US998. It's just their branded versions have the bands enabled/disabled they specifically need.
Then, the US998 will have ALL the U.S./Canadian bands enabled -- probably including LTE band 71. If it didn't, then it really wouldn't be full "carrier unlocked" version.
Twice, the "management" Twitter account of T-mobile seemingly said the "carrier unlocked" version would have LTE band 71. Which was encouraging.
Then the "customer service" (T-mobile Help) Twitter account has questioned that. Which I laugh at. Customer service reps are typically clueless about what unlocking really means, and also they can't speak for LG. They can only speak for T-Mobile product and usually using scripts to go by. [emoji14] I know more than they do how OEMs like LG make phones. Plus, T-Mobile wants you to buy a T-mobile branded phone, not a carrier unlocked phone straight from LG or some other retailers.
But LG doesn't need T-Mobile "permission" for what LG does with a carrier unlocked version not sold or serviced by T-Mobile.
So, based on past experience and knowledge of the industry, I would bet all the North American LG V30 phones have the same hardware (antennas), and that the carrier unlocked version will either have LTE band 71 at release or hopefully it can be enabled by devs. Here's the discussion link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/t-mobile-600-mhz-lte-band-71-s-carrier-t3671351

Unlocked V30 now on sale @ Best Buy $799.99

Jude a heads up as I didn't see anyone chatting about it yet.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-v30...unlocked-cloud-silver/6138907.p?skuId=6138907
Anyone know if B&H will price match this?. I ordered last night to take advantage of the $400 off offer.

Well, you can try...
But with B&H Photo, I paid no tax (because I live outside New York/New Jersey) and I got free shipping. Here in Georgia with at least 6% state sales tax, that "$800" Best Buy LG V30 is REALLY going to be about $848. (Some localities tack on even more tax, in addition to state tax.)
The B&H Photo price is still better than Best Buy, unless you live in New York/New Jersey and have to pay their local tax anyways.
Interesting now the other authorized retailers are releasing the phone! Amazon should be next.
Also waiting for the LG V30+ unlocked. Still have to buy that second LG device, and it's going to be V30+.

ChazzMatt said:
Well, you can try...
But with B&H Photo, I paid no tax (because I live outside New York/New Jersey) and I got free shipping. Here in Georgia with at least 6% state sales tax, that "$800" Best Buy LG V30 is REALLY going to be about $848. (Some localities tack on even more tax, in addition to state tax.)
The B&H Photo price is still better than Best Buy, unless you live in New York/New Jersey and have to pay their local tax anyways.
Interesting now the other authorized retailers are releasing the phone! Amazon should be next.
Also waiting for the LG V30+ unlocked. Still have to buy that second LG device, and it's going to be V30+.
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No disagreement here, I'll be keeping the B&H order, but if they'll price match.... *twirls mustache*
Also, don't forget reward zone points and some may have reward certificates burning a hole in their pocket to reduce the cost further.
Do we have confirmation of an unlocked V30+ ?? I'd like one, but then the only difference is the extra 64GB of storage yes? I guess I'm okay with using SD cards depending on the price.

teknomedic said:
No disagreement here, I'll be keeping the B&H order, but if they'll price match.... *twirls mustache*
Also, don't forget reward zone points and some may have reward certificates burning a hole in their pocket to reduce the cost further.
Do we have confirmation of an unlocked V30+ ?? I'd like one, but then the only difference is the extra 64GB of storage yes? I guess I'm okay with using SD cards depending on the price.
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On the LG website, for the unlocked US998 there was a "coming soon" along with retailers like Best Buy, Amazon. There were both V30 and V30+ listed, and they were greyed out. Now, I bet if we found that page again, the V30 would no longer be greyed out for Best Buy.
B&H Photo was listed under "preorder" category, and both V30 and V30+ were listed, but the V30+ was greyed out, while the V30 was active.
So, strong implication the V30+ is coming.

ChazzMatt said:
On the LG website, for the unlocked US998 there was a "coming soon" along with retailers like Best Buy, Amazon. There were both V30 and V30+ listed, and they were greyed out. Now, I bet if we found that page again, the V30 would no longer be greyed out for Best Buy.
B&H Photo was listed under "preorder" category, and both V30 and V30+ were listed, but the V30+ was greyed out, while the V30 was active.
So, strong implication the V30+ is coming.
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Sound reasoning, I wasn't aware of that. Hmmm... if not for the $400 off deal I'd have waited. Guess I'll have to talk the wife into the V30 so I can have the V30+ ha

teknomedic said:
Do we have confirmation of an unlocked V30+ ?? I'd like one, but then the only difference is the extra 64GB of storage yes? I guess I'm okay with using SD cards depending on the price.
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Here ya go, straight from LG:
LG V30+™ | Unlocked
US998U Unlocked
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US998U-Unlocked-v30-plus
Sellers for this product coming soon.
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Whereas the same category link for the LG V30 is here:
https://www.lg.com/us/products/wtb?modelId=MD05904576
And still only shows B&H Photo as the only authorized retailer at this moment, even though I know the Best Buy link you posted is live.

Just as I suspected, I do not see anywhere on any official documentation where the unlocked lgv30 Plus will be compatible with T-Mobile's new band 71 600 megahertz Spectrum.... the below comes straight from the LG website...
Connectivity
4G LTE Network* Yes
Technology CDMA, WCDMA, GSM, UMTS, LTE
Network CDMA, GSM, LTE (Multi-Band/Multi-Mode)
1.9 GHz CDMA PCS 800 MHz CDMA
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
UMTS 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
AWS; LTE Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/20/25/66
Data Transmission EVDO, EVDO Rev A, 1xRTT, LTE, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+, HSPA
Wi-Fi® Hotspot** Share a 4G LTE data connection with up to 8 wireless devices***
Bluetooth® Wireless Technology Version 5.0
Supported Bluetooth Profiles A2DP, AVRCP, DI, GATT, GAVDP, HDP, HFP, HID, HSP, MAP, OPP, PAN, PBAP, SPP, HOGP
Wi-Fi Direct® Connect directly to devices via Wi-Fi
Wi-Fi Standards 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
USB**** and Bluetooth Tethering** Share your phone’s Internet connection with your computer
Android Beam share contacts, web pages, and more
Media Sync Allow nearby devices to access content via DLNA®
SmartShare Beam Wirelessly receive multimedia content
Screen Sharing (Miracast® ) Wirelessly mirror device screen on a compatible display
HD Voice***** Capable Yes
MIDI Device Connect to musical instruments via USB****
MirrorLink®**** Connect to a MirrorLink-capable car to share your screen and apps
S-GPS, A-GPS, and Qualcomm® Service for Enhanced Location Accuracy Yes
UPC 652810819879
* 4G LTE network not available everywhere.
** Carrier service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability. Additional charges may apply.
*** Depends on network availability. Additional carrier charges may apply.
**** USB cable required (included).
***** HD Voice required on both caller and receiver devices

igotroot said:
Just as I suspected, I do not see anywhere on any official documentation where the unlocked lgv30 Plus will be compatible with T-Mobile's new band 71 600 megahertz Spectrum.... the below comes straight from the LG website...
Connectivity
4G LTE Network*Yes
TechnologyCDMA, WCDMA, GSM, UMTS, LTE
NetworkCDMA, GSM, LTE (Multi-Band/Multi-Mode)
1.9 GHz CDMA PCS800 MHz CDMA
GSM850/900/1800/1900 MHz
UMTS850/900/1900/2100 MHz
AWS; LTE Bands1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/20/25/66
Data TransmissionEVDO, EVDO Rev A, 1xRTT, LTE, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+, HSPA
Wi-Fi® Hotspot**Share a 4G LTE data connection with up to 8 wireless devices***
Bluetooth® Wireless TechnologyVersion 5.0
Supported Bluetooth ProfilesA2DP, AVRCP, DI, GATT, GAVDP, HDP, HFP, HID, HSP, MAP, OPP, PAN, PBAP, SPP, HOGP
Wi-Fi Direct®Connect directly to devices via Wi-Fi
Wi-Fi Standards802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
USB**** and Bluetooth Tethering**Share your phone’s Internet connection with your computer
Android Beamshare contacts, web pages, and more
Media SyncAllow nearby devices to access content via DLNA®
SmartShare BeamWirelessly receive multimedia content
Screen Sharing (Miracast® )Wirelessly mirror device screen on a compatible display
HD Voice***** CapableYes
MIDI DeviceConnect to musical instruments via USB****
MirrorLink®****Connect to a MirrorLink-capable car to share your screen and apps
S-GPS, A-GPS, and Qualcomm® Service for Enhanced Location AccuracyYes
UPC652810819879
*4G LTE network not available everywhere.
**Carrier service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability. Additional charges may apply.
***Depends on network availability. Additional carrier charges may apply.
****USB cable required (included).
*****HD Voice required on both caller and receiver devices
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Already been answered many, many times in many, many threads.
There's a T-MOBILE network hidden menu in the US998 that requires root for access.
With root, you may possibly enable it from there, or with root you can (possibly) flash the T-Mobile radio.
Here, go read this. I just answered identical question last night and provided screenshot.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=74717874

Understood. You would think LG would make that band available for foreigners who travel to the United States and Roam on TMO. Go figure.

For use on AT&T, i don't see bands 29 and 30 on the phone, which have been somewhat recently put into service in certain areas. Also, with the unlocked, non-carrier phones, I'm not sure you'll get wifi calling, VoLTE, and IIRC HD voice (or maybe it was HD recording...sorry). Just something to keep in mind.

@Buckwheat6, your sent me a PM question about the Best Buy unlocked LG V30, but you don't accept PMs? So, I have to answer here...
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It's compatible with Verizon, but you'll need to stick on an already activated SIM card. Verizon won't activate a non-Verizon branded phone.
Sprint and their brands won't take non-Sprint, non-Virgin phones at all, to my knowledge. You can't "Bring Your Own Phone" to Sprint.
With Verizon, you can, but you need to have an already activated SIM card to stick on, from another Verizon phone.
It's just safer for Best Buy to say it's not compatible, then to try to explain all that.

ChazzMatt said:
@Buckwheat6, your sent me a PM question about the Best Buy unlocked LG V30, but you don't accept PMs? So, I have to answer here...
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It's compatible with Verizon, but you'll need to stick on an already activated SIM card. Verizon won't activate a non-Verizon branded phone.
Sprint and their brands won't take non-Sprint, non-Virgin phones at all, to my knowledge. You can't "Bring Your Own Phone" to Sprint.
With Verizon, you can, but you need to have an already activated SIM card to stick on, from another Verizon phone.
It's just safer for Best Buy to say it's not compatible, then to try to explain all that.
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(sorry about the PM thing -- I'll check that out shortly.)...
When I went from The Note 4 (Verizon-branded) to the Motorola Moto X Pure (unlocked, purchased at -- you guessed it -- Best Buy), I needed a Nano SIM card. I just walked into my local Verizon store, asked for a new SIM card, and they popped it in for me and activated it no charge (I was shocked it was THAT easy, despite the fact that others on the Motorola forums had quoted similar success .) That was only last year (June 2016) so hopefully their policy hasn't changed.
Thanks again for the help!

Buckwheat6 said:
(sorry about the PM thing -- I'll check that out shortly.)...
When I went from The Note 4 (Verizon-branded) to the Motorola Moto X Pure (unlocked, purchased at -- you guessed it -- Best Buy), I needed a Nano SIM card. I just walked into my local Verizon store, asked for a new SIM card, and they popped it in for me and activated it no charge (I was shocked it was THAT easy, despite the fact that others on the Motorola forums had quoted similar success .) That was only last year (June 2016) so hopefully their policy hasn't changed.
Thanks again for the help!
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OK, good luck then. I've just heard from others about Verizon control freak behavior on non-Verizon branded phones like the ZTE AXON 7, which was also just last year, in 2016. You had to stick in an already activated SIM card.
So, if that policy has changed, then I don't know why Best Buy says it's incompatible with Verizon. That's totally wrong information. That's probably just their stock boilerplate wording for any "unlocked" phones they sell -- many of which don't have CDMA.

andygold said:
For use on AT&T, i don't see bands 29 and 30 on the phone, which have been somewhat recently put into service in certain areas. Also, with the unlocked, non-carrier phones, I'm not sure you'll get wifi calling, VoLTE, and IIRC HD voice (or maybe it was HD recording...sorry). Just something to keep in mind.
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I will be interesting if these bands can be enabled or if the AT&T modem could be easily flashed. Pretty disappointing a flagship might not have full LTE support for a major carrier.

N4cr2k said:
I will be interesting if these bands can be enabled or if the AT&T modem could be easily flashed. Pretty disappointing a flagship might not have full LTE support for a major carrier.
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Almost any bands can be enabled in the hidden menu.
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andygold said:
For use on AT&T, i don't see bands 29 and 30 on the phone, which have been somewhat recently put into service in certain areas. Also, with the unlocked, non-carrier phones, I'm not sure you'll get wifi calling, VoLTE, and IIRC HD voice (or maybe it was HD recording...sorry). Just something to keep in mind.
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See above. Doesn't even need root. People already did it on the Canadian version and others -- adding bands via the hidden menu.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74506190&postcount=5
The only thing we can't yet enable without root is LTE BAND 71.
People got VoLTE on open market (carrier unlocked) version of LG G6. I see no difference with the LG V30.

ChazzMatt said:
People got VoLTE on open market (carrier unlocked) version of LG G6. I see no difference with the LG V30.
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Does this also include WiFi Calling on AT&T?
Also, when I look at the linked thread above in regards to unlocking bands, the image shown for the bands does not include bands 29 and 30. The list seems to stop with band 25 being the highest on the list. Now maybe it's possible that more bands are listed in that photo, but they are at the bottom of the list, off-screen...but I don't know.

andygold said:
Does this also include WiFi Calling on AT&T?
Also, when I look at the linked thread above in regards to unlocking bands, the image shown for the bands does not include bands 29 and 30. The list seems to stop with band 25 being the highest on the list. Now maybe it's possible that more bands are listed in that photo, but they are at the bottom of the list, off-screen...but I don't know.
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There's a another screenshot from another user showing more bands. That was just the first page, to show the idea. Just because the first screenshot stopped with 25 doesn't mean that's all there is.
Can't find the screenshot right now but found this.
portcqb said:
In the band selection menu on the T-mobile version and on the box it shows 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,20,25,28,29,30,38,39,40,41,46,66,71
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uzupan said:
I just stop by the T Mobile store, all the bands mentioned were in the hidden menu but they were not all listed on the box
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This is for the U.S. T-mobile, yes -- but all those bands are NOT listed on the U.S. T-mobile spec website, but can be enabled in the Hidden Menu. We know "71" is not listed visibly in the hidden menu for the unlocked US998 -- but ALL the others probably are. Point is, ignore the listed bands. You can enable what you want.
EDIT: FOUND IT.
Thanks to @Septembersrain
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74475386&postcount=4
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as an fyi... B&H price matched BB for me. very nice of them.

teknomedic said:
as an fyi... B&H price matched BB for me. very nice of them.
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This is awesome. How did you get the match? Before or after you purchased? Did you call or email?
I just ordered from B&H tonight!

johninsf said:
This is awesome. How did you get the match? Before or after you purchased? Did you call or email?
I just ordered from B&H tonight!
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I first bought from B&H, then noticed BB was $20 cheaper so I emailed B&H customer service and asked nicely about a price match of $20. After a couple days I received no direct reply from B&H CS, but I did receive an automatic email saying they were processing a $20 refund. Thank you B&H.
It should be noted I did this when BB had stock though and I've noticed they're now sold out at BB... So this could change future decisions for others.