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So I have waited and waited for this thing to launch. Constant out of memory issues on my ageing Desire but I have held out.
My big fear was that when this launched it would be huge.
And it is
So is this too big. Perhaps going for a Nexus S (which should get ICS soon anyway) would be the way to go but then with that big screen comes a big resolution and does that mean ICS is going to be sub par on anything with a smaller resolution display.
Choices choices choices.

Just buy SGS2 then it still is the best phone out there.

Remix2011 said:
Just buy SGS2 then it still is the best phone out there.
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The SGSII is just about the same size as the GN....maybe a TINY bit smaller...

You gotta remember that the Galaxy Nexus has no capacitive buttons, and a very small bezel along the screen. It's essentially the size of a standard 4 in phone. I wouldn't worry so much about the size.

Jaredsk74 said:
You gotta remember that the Galaxy Nexus has no capacitive buttons, and a very small bezel along the screen. It's essentially the size of a standard 4 in phone. I wouldn't worry so much about the size.
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Not a standard 4" phone. Maybe closer to a 4.3-4.4" phone.
SGSII:
125.3 mm (4.93 in) H
66.1 mm (2.60 in) W
8.49–9.91 mm (0.334–0.390 in) D
GN:
135.5 mm (5.33 in) H
67.94 mm (2.675 in) W
8.94 mm (0.352 in) D
It's bigger than the SGSII, and the SGSII is a big phone (but thin, which IMO is actually worse because it's HUGE and absurdly thin at the same time).
The typical 4" phone is quite a bit smaller, and for me, more comfortable. Although the Amaze does fit pretty nice in the hand it itself is fairly massive.
Basically, what they did was take the body of the SGSII, take out the buttons and throw a .35" larger screen in there, while making the phone itself about 10mm longer, 1mm wider and even slightly thinner than the thickest of SGSII's but towards the top end. Note that the depth measurements are at the thinnest point of each phone. The phone has the same size screen and resolution as the SGSII HD which was announced for Korea in late September.

But the GN tapers to 11mm which is thicker than the thickest point on the GSII

@MARK said:
So I have waited and waited for this thing to launch. Constant out of memory issues on my ageing Desire but I have held out.
My big fear was that when this launched it would be huge.
And it is
So is this too big. Perhaps going for a Nexus S (which should get ICS soon anyway) would be the way to go but then with that big screen comes a big resolution and does that mean ICS is going to be sub par on anything with a smaller resolution display.
Choices choices choices.
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Lol I can't believe you're unsatisfied with your Desire... I'm still on a milestone but if you can I would say wait until the SSG3 or a newer phone with better specs if you are unsatisfied with the underwhelming specs (e.g. 4 yrs old gpu). Or if you just want a smaller phone look at the SSG2 but don't just neglect the Galaxy Nexus because of how it looks on video, when it goes on display in stores you should head to your local best buy (or whichever store will have it on display near you) and at least try it out and get a feel for the phone. Just my 2 cents

@MARK said:
So I have waited and waited for this thing to launch. Constant out of memory issues on my ageing Desire but I have held out.
My big fear was that when this launched it would be huge.
And it is
So is this too big. Perhaps going for a Nexus S (which should get ICS soon anyway) would be the way to go but then with that big screen comes a big resolution and does that mean ICS is going to be sub par on anything with a smaller resolution display.
Choices choices choices.
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I'm with you, I think it will be too big. It might not be as big as it sounds, but it will be a large phone, and once you add a case....
If it was 1/2 an inch smaller in height I'd be robbing old people right now to get some cash together for it. But the 5+" height leaves me a little ambivalent, I really dig the form factor of my Nexus One.

@MARK said:
My big fear was that when this launched it would be huge.
And it is
So is this too big.
Choices choices choices.
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- & Thats what she said

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- & Thats what she said
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Way to bump an almost yr old thread. Good job broseph:good:

Note 3 article

Did anyone else see the article last week stating the note 3 will be 6.3 inches? Supposedly the article said a company making the screens got orders from samsung for a screen that size.
I'd be down for that size, no bigger though. Would be perfect imo
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I can't see samsung doing that.. I get questions all the time about this 5.5 and I have no problems defending the size but a 6.3 would be a joke imo..
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http://asia.cnet.com/samsung-reportedly-working-on-6-3-inch-galaxy-note-3-62219811.htm
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sprintuser1977 said:
Did anyone else see the article last week stating the note 3 will be 6.3 inches? Supposedly the article said a company making the screens got orders from samsung for a screen that size.
I'd be down for that size, no bigger though. Would be perfect imo
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Doesn't Samsung manufacturer their own screens??
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After using GN2 for a few weeks I could see going bigger as long as the physical size of the phone itself doesn't get much bigger. Samsung could easily squeeze more screen real estate into the existing frame by removing the buttons and logo. I plan to keep the GN2 for a few years but would also like to see an unbreakable screen come to the next note.

looks like samsung is getting serious about those flexible screens..no way will a 6.3" phone be a solid device...too big. If this is foldable though....now that will be something special. a 6.3" phone that folds into a 3.15" rectangle no thicker than the original RAZR.....man that would be a sweet phone

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looks like samsung is getting serious about those flexible screens..no way will a 6.3" phone be a solid device...too big. If this is foldable though....now that will be something special. a 6.3" phone that folds into a 3.15" rectangle no thicker than the original RAZR.....man that would be a sweet phone
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Sounds cool but batteries aren't foldable unfortunately. Even with two batteries on each side it'll still be kinda thick.

one80oneday said:
Sounds cool but batteries aren't foldable unfortunately. Even with two batteries on each side it'll still be kinda thick.
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take the note 2 and double it's thickness...not that bad really...thinner and smaller than a wallet

For me I would love that size. Wouldn't be an issue for me at all. The bigger the better. As stated they could increase the screen and not make the whole phone much bigger
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If they can squeeze that screen real estate in the note 2 size body then yes i'm all for it. But if the actual phone itself gets bigger then i just might have to pass and look into the galaxy S4 as the screen on that is also increasing and if that isn't sufficient and apple wisen's up and makes a 4.5 inch or bigger in length and width then i might have to consider that also.

lalab0y said:
I can't see samsung doing that.. I get questions all the time about this 5.5 and I have no problems defending the size but a 6.3 would be a joke imo..
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Hell I would love a 6.3, this phone seems small to me now.
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It will be interesting to see this larger version. I had an HTC HD2 (previously thought of as a "big" phone) prior to my Note II, and I've had no problems getting acclimated to the new phone. I've been wondering when some 7-inch tablet manufacturer would take the plunge and implement phone services on a mini tablet and bridge the gap. Actually thought that Apple might do it first, but it looks like Samsung will beat them to it. With more people using Bluetooth and Voice Search, and more advanced speech-to-text software being developed, there's less and less need to actually hold the device in (one) hand for purposes of making phone calls. My lady friend also has a Note II -- she's all of 5 feet 4 inches tall, doesn't have large hands, but loves her Note II.

There is no way they are going to make almost an inch increase in screen size. I would like to see the samephysical size or touch larger with slight increase in screen size. I see them going to 5.8".

Again I saw an article I cant find now with the official note 3 specs . It was
6" cloroled screen <although I see now they are prepping for a 5.8" cloroled screen so that size may have changed.>
2ghz quad core
16mp camera with 3mp front facing camera
3gb ram
And those were the major specs .

Some_dude36 said:
Again I saw an article I cant find now with the official note 3 specs . It was
6" cloroled screen <although I see now they are prepping for a 5.8" cloroled screen so that size may have changed.>
2ghz quad core
16mp camera
3gb ram
And those were the major specs .
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Again I saw an article I cant find now with the official note 3 specs . It was
6" cloroled screen <although I see now they are prepping for a 5.8" cloroled screen so that size may have changed.>
2ghz quad core
16mp camera with 3mp front facing camera
3gb ram
And those were the major specs .
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Sounds about perfect for me

my note 3 dream would be:
same physical size as the note 2; however, the entire face would be a screen. no physical buttons and the speaker for calls would be behind the glass while the mic would be on the bottom of the phone.
s pen that is thicker and longer with an easier to press button
flexible screen to keep it from cracking upon drops
larger battery
32gb internal memory minimum
3GB RAM
2ghz quad core processor
12mp camera but better quality
8mp front facing camera
more s-apps
default home screen modified to have a 8x6 grid
apps 2 sd built in

I believe this is close to the truth. 6.3" size, 1080 resolution screen is not that far off from what others are rumored to be doing in 2013. Seem to be lots of competition in 2013 with the high end, large sized Androids.
I hope they are also working on improving the multi-window too. I also hope they keep the removable battery and SD card option. And please more battery capacity and more data storage.
I personally feel that would be the perfect size for my future Android MPPC.

I'd be happy with a slightly bigger phone if the screen was 6-6.3. I would dumpy my Nexus 7 for sure, which surprisingly lately has been collecting dust. I never thought that woukd happen in a million years.
Anyway, 3gbs of ram, and 2.0ghz before the wizards here did their magic...wow. That would be some phone. Add some other stuff like a poster above me said and bam. Perfection. I was reading somewhere, not sure where, Iphone 6 was going to be 5"...too little and way too late for me.
If they could perfect a damn keyboard that would be nice too.
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Warrior1975 said:
I'd be happy with a slightly bigger phone if the screen was 6-6.3. I would dumpy my Nexus 7 for sure, which surprisingly lately has been collecting dust. I never thought that woukd happen in a million years.
Anyway, 3gbs of ram, and 2.0ghz before the wizards here did their magic...wow. That would be some phone. Add some other stuff like a poster above me said and bam. Perfection. I was reading somewhere, not sure where, Iphone 6 was going to be 5"...too little and way too late for me.
If they could perfect a damn keyboard that would be nice too.
G●Note~2 {Jedi X5}
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For me thumb keyboard is the best
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I was using that on my Nexus 7, liked it a lot. I've been trying to get used to swype keyboard. Typing on it sucks the but I'm getting better at swyping.
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Should Note 3 be slightly bigger?

For those who got this as a pseudo tablet? its been almost 6 weeks I got the beauty and about 2 weeks since I got the allshare cast, and I haven't touched my roku or asus media player
Note 2 is everything for me, after using it so much, the screen size is normal to me ( compared to my previous S3 ) but I really don't mind it being slightly bigger - about 6"

Lol
I dont get it.. are u asking a question? And if so.... this is general
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inningsdefeat500 said:
Note 2 is everything for me, after using it so much, the screen size is normal to me ( compared to my previous S3 ) but I really don't mind it being slightly bigger - about 6"
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So you are saying that you'd like it to be more like answering your TV when it rings? Wow.
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This question is redundant for many reasons, the biggest being I've seen about two active threads on XDA, about this...
Cnet: Galaxy Note 3 with 6.3-inch display reportedly in the works

The rumor is that 6.3" will be the next screen size. Whether this is true remains to be seen. Too early to tell.
With a 16:9 aspect ratio for the screen, that would mean the width of the phone would grow approximately 0.375" more, or 3.5". (Note II's width is 3.125".)
Personally, I actually like the idea. I probably wouldn't even mind a 7" (Approximately 7.25" if I go by 9cm x 16cm.) screen if they keep to the edge thinness around the screen, if not thinner. That should allow the growth of the phone to be as minimal as possible. Of course, I'd stop at 7" for the max size I wouldn't mind on my phone. Any larger and many people will definitely start having problems holding their phones edge to edge.

twanskys204 said:
Lol
I dont get it.. are u asking a question? And if so.... this is general
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meatlocker said:
So you are saying that you'd like it to be more like answering your TV when it rings? Wow.
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This question is redundant for many reasons, the biggest being I've seen about two active threads on XDA, about this...
Cnet: Galaxy Note 3 with 6.3-inch display reportedly in the works
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General Thread - thus the question
I am basically saying that since many of us got this as pseudo tablet, it would be nice to have a slightly bigger screen so we could read ebooks etc
When I got the S3, screen seemed big and then we get used to it, same with the note - but we could increase that threshold to perfection

Its still a phone man...are u kidding? if thats the case u gonna expect them to make it 8 inches next year???
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twanskys204 said:
Its still a phone man...are u kidding? if thats the case u gonna expect them to make it 8 inches next year???
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I know but much better than carrying 2 devices, what I am saying it would satisfy being a tablet and a regular phone if it was slightly more bigger
I have no issues carrying it now, hands have plenty more room

I wouldn't care for a larger screen so much as I would like Samsung to natively support a better pixel density so that I could fit more onto the screen. Something like 182 instead of the default 240(?).

If they kept the phone the same size, but increased the screen size, it would not be too bad.

I'm wondering if the next Note could eliminate the home button. That would be one way of increasing screen real estate, without making the device too much larger. It could go fully-touchscreen, as Jelly Bean devices are supposed to be, anyway. However, I think the home button has sort of become synonymous with the Galaxy line of devices, so it may stay. I would love 6 - 6.3" inches on the new Note. I wouldn't have issues with mobility.

Dr. Evo said:
I'm wondering if the next Note could eliminate the home button. That would be one way of increasing screen real estate, without making the device too much larger. It could go fully-touchscreen, as Jelly Bean devices are supposed to be, anyway. However, I think the home button has sort of become synonymous with the Galaxy line of devices, so it may stay. I would love 6 - 6.3" inches on the new Note. I wouldn't have issues with mobility.
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Why not 7" I think it will still fit my back pocket gotta love big screen phone.
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jon3sh said:
Why not 7" I think it will still fit my back pocket gotta love big screen phone.
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Then its like the tablet, but seriously, slightly more bigger would be sweet

I would like to see no home button and screen extended all the way up and down. 6"-6,3" screen would be awesome.

I am fine as is hope they don't make the size of the phone bigger. If they can make screen bigger but keep same size I am OK with that.
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I used to think I'd want a Note 3 to have a 6" screen with small bezels and no home button. Now that I've played with my Note 2 for a week, I'm guessing I'll prefer going the other way. I'd rather have a 5" 1080p phone with very thin side bezels, a thin top bezel, and a thicker bottom bezel with 5 configurable capacitive buttons (I have a Nexus 7 and I like most things Nexus, but disagree with the move to on-screen buttons which most of the time waste real-estate). I'd be fine with a thicker phone too though to get an even bigger battery - heck, I'll take 4000 mAh or more, now that I know what 3100 can do. I knew the Note 2 was long and had tried mockups before buying, but now that I have the real thing, it's a bit too long for me - not a deal breaker, but I no longer think about going bigger. By the time 5" 1080p screens are common items and I upgrade from the Note 2, I hope there will be lots of options, some with pens (which I'm not convinced I need, but an interesting thing to try), and ideally, some without Touchwiz which I really don't like so far - I'm sure I'll be trying a ROM with a more Nexus like experience before I'm done with this phone. Too bad Google missed the ball (for me) so badly with the Nexus 4, I would have liked to consider it. Maybe the Nexus 5 or whatever the first 1080p Nexus will be called will be better.

Yes it will has 6 inch screen
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dara.parsavand said:
I used to think I'd want a Note 3 to have a 6" screen with small bezels and no home button. Now that I've played with my Note 2 for a week, I'm guessing I'll prefer going the other way. I'd rather have a 5" 1080p phone with very thin side bezels, a thin top bezel, and a thicker bottom bezel with 5 configurable capacitive buttons (I have a Nexus 7 and I like most things Nexus, but disagree with the move to on-screen buttons which most of the time waste real-estate). I'd be fine with a thicker phone too though to get an even bigger battery - heck, I'll take 4000 mAh or more, now that I know what 3100 can do. I knew the Note 2 was long and had tried mockups before buying, but now that I have the real thing, it's a bit too long for me - not a deal breaker, but I no longer think about going bigger. By the time 5" 1080p screens are common items and I upgrade from the Note 2, I hope there will be lots of options, some with pens (which I'm not convinced I need, but an interesting thing to try), and ideally, some without Touchwiz which I really don't like so far - I'm sure I'll be trying a ROM with a more Nexus like experience before I'm done with this phone. Too bad Google missed the ball (for me) so badly with the Nexus 4, I would have liked to consider it. Maybe the Nexus 5 or whatever the first 1080p Nexus will be called will be better.
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This has absolutely no chance in hell of happening, for a plethora of reasons.
1) It would be going backwards, when sales of the Galaxy Note line have proven that people like phones with really large screens, so Samsung backtracking to anything smaller that 5.5" inches would be stupid, and would eventually run into product overlap.
2) The product overlap would come with the rumored Galaxy S4. The S4 is strongly rumored to have a 5" screen. There's probably a good chance it will also have 1080p, but I sort of doubt it. At any rate, there would be no business case for Samsung to have two products that are virtually identical. The S III already shares a significant amount of the Note IIs features, sans having an S Pen. You make a Note III with a 5" screen and you'll just have an S4 with an S Pen. That's utterly asinine.
3) I'm willing to bet the vast majority of people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a 720p screen and a 1080p screen. This is just the hype for this year. Seems like every year there a new hype geared towards sheep and ill-informed people. One year it was 3D technology. Last year it was quad core technology. This year its 1080p. Another year photo pixels were all the rave. Another year Apple's retina display was all the rave. Pretty much none of those things mean jack s*** in the grand scheme of things. I remember when I was going to purchase a new 40"+ 3D LED TV. I read many reviews to see if there was a huge difference between 720p and full-1080p HD. EVERY review stated that the only time the difference between 720p & 1080p became noticeable and worth considering, was when you had a screen larger than 40". So, if that's true, there's no way in hell anyone is seeing a noteworthy screen difference in a device as small as a cellular phone. At one point, I had a 720p Plasma HDTV and a 3D LED HDTV, simultaneously. To be honest, I was more impressed with the display on my 720p plasma, than I am on my 1080p 3D TV I ended up keeping. And I only kept the 3D television because it was packed with more features that sort of leveled the playing field.
If you desire as smaller phone, the great thing about Android, is that there's seemingly an endless array of phones to choose from. Get an S III or S4 or DNA or Nexus. Sounds like the Note II isn't a good fit for you.

Currently I'm sure I can't tell the difference between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 for a 5" display. When I finally break down and admit I'm old enough to use reading glasses (which I should have done years ago as my close focus distance moved from 7" where it used to be to 13" now), then I suspect I will be able to tell the difference when holding my phone closer than 8". Other than focus, I have no issue holding my phone that close and I'll be able to get that much more detail into my brain (from maps, text, whatever). You can call 1080p hype if you want, but I think it is still actual progress. I don't know what photo pixels are, and I was not interested in 3D myself, but 1080p I am optimistic about.
Sorry if I'm not following thread rules or something - I'm just saying what I was thinking. I agree that Samsung Note 3 will quite likely go bigger, especially if the S4 is bigger. Who knows, anything could happen by the time I get another phone - maybe the glasses concept will be so appealing, I'll go that route.
I chose the Note II because a) I wanted a 5" or more display, b) I wanted to try out the s-pen concept which I don't know if it will be for me or not till I try, c) I wanted a big battery, and SD storage, d) I don't want to change carriers since as much as I don't like AT&T for many reasons, I'm on a family plan which I don't want to change and they are the only carrier with good coverage over my work campus. I ruled out the Nexus 4 and the Droid DNA pretty fast though I looked at them. I absolutely didn't need LTE and my data experience with AT&T around Los Angeles for a few days and Las Vegas for a few days has been very unimpressive - no better than my previous 3GS iPhone. Hopefully that will improve as the network improves.
Anyway, it's pretty early to speculate now - I better get back to figuring out how to use my phone to get my core iPhone use cases working again: podcasts, visual voicemail (both of these use cases require installing add on software I've found), offline topographic maps (I have 3 programs I've been trying on the Nexus 7), and a few other things. For ROMs, the HyperNote sounded the most interesting to me, but it seems like the AT&T model won't run many ROMs yet (e.g. no HyperNote yet) - I hope this is some transitional issue as porting ROMs from the International to the various carrier versions (which is a huge annoyance to me that this fracturing even exists) is worked out.

SGarnett said:
If they kept the phone the same size, but increased the screen size, it would not be too bad.
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This. I wouldn't want anything physically bigger, but if they can remove more bezel (and NOT remove physical buttons), That would be sweet.

Why did you choose the compact over the Z1 ?

Trying to see what factors influenced people here to get a 4.3" screen over a 5".
Portability is a good reason but how do you reconcile that with decreased readability of a smaller screen.
The trend was to move from iphone size screen over to 5 inchers. 5 inches seems optimum. Anything bigger and it becomes unwieldy. Now it seems we're going in the opposite direction.
So given a choice over the Z1 or compact. Why would you go with the compact ?

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Trying to see what factors influenced people here to get a 4.3" screen over a 5".
Portability is a good reason but how do you reconcile that with decreased readability of a smaller screen.
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i am really, really glad someone took the step to release a 4,3"-phone with descent hardware-specs. I just want to reach all corners of the screen while holding it in one hand. Can't do this with 5" or larger. Also, i don't need 5" for any reason on my mobile. I got a Nexus 7 for watching movies, playing HiRes-Games and all the other stuff, a large screen is good for. So 4,3" on the mobile is perfect for me because it fits into the pocket and i can use it one-handed.

One Twelve said:
Trying to see what factors influenced people here to get a 4.3" screen over a 5".
Portability is a good reason but how do you reconcile that with decreased readability of a smaller screen.
The trend was to move from iphone size screen over to 5 inchers. 5 inches seems optimum. Anything bigger and it unwieldy. Now it seems we're going in the opposite direction.
So given a choice over the Z1 or compact. Why would you go with the compact ?
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Size.
And as a bonus a better IPS-display.

I moved from a Galaxy S3 which I'd had for 2 years. My main worry about getting the Z1c was the smaller screen. And after having the Z1c for a couple of days I'm getting used to it.
I do find the keyboard letters smaller but. I do love this phone. It's far speedier than the S3 and I find the text shaper.
I'm not missing the 4.8" S3 at all.
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toxic_garden said:
i am really, really glad someone took the step to release a 4,3"-phone with descent hardware-specs. I just want to reach all corners of the screen while holding it in one hand. Can't do this with 5" or larger.
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Underlined bit is a major reason i've heard people mention for not going beyond 5 inchers.
Time was you could not make a screen that big and be able to use it one handed. Things have changed. many people think the Z1 is very close to the size of the note 3 yet only offers a 5 inch screen.
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Also, i don't need 5" for any reason on my mobile. I got a Nexus 7 for watching movies, playing HiRes-Games and all the other stuff, a large screen is good for. So 4,3" on the mobile is perfect for me because it fits into the pocket and i can use it one-handed.
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What about web browsing though ? granted reading on a 5 incher isn't all that great either. but does going smaller make it worse.
Not talking about ppi or anything just wondering whether the reduced screen estate gets in the way. If you don't do much browsing then its moot. But part of owning a smartphone is being able to do just that. To browse on the move.

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What about web browsing though ? granted reading on a 5 incher isn't all that great either. but does going smaller make it worse.
Not talking about ppi or anything just wondering whether the reduced screen estate gets in the way. If you don't do much browsing then its moot. But part of owning a smartphone is being able to do just that. To browse on the move.
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i rarely use the browser. For most things (Wikipedia, Facebook, Amazon, Imgur, xda, etc.) i use the appropriate app. And reading within those apps doesn't make a difference between 4.3" and 5" for me. So: no, i don't browse a lot (by meaning "browsing" in the classical way using the browser), but gather information using the mobile apps. Which works just perfect for me. Especially as i changed the dpi to 280, so there's a bit more room for content.

If i had a chance to choose from z1 to z1c ill get z1c. Battery and screen size. Ratio of battery to screen size is almost perfect. I hope thwy should keep this ratio.
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Size. 5"+ is a mini tablet imo and impractical for one handed operation, and for some reason manufacturers seem to have thought this far that everyone wants a big screen which for me just isn't the case, where as the Z1 Compact is perfect for a "mobile" Phone.
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Specs and Size for me.
I've had the HTC One X now for nearly 2 years, and coming close to upgrade time so had been looking around anyway, however, started a new job five months ago and was given an iPhone 5 as my works phone.
Both on the same network, so has been a really good test for me to compare the two OS's back to back. And while the iPhone has loads of really nice features, there are so many things it lacks (and also performs really poorly on, like dealing with anything in a poor signal area), which has made me really prefer Android.
The only one thing that I really like about the iPhone 5 compared to my HTC, is the size... it's made it feel massive, and now I've used both side by side, I really notice how much nicer a smaller phone is to use day to day.
Went to look at all the other 'Mini' phones, and they're all the same spec as my current HTC One X, which considering it's nearly 2 years old, seemed pointless to pay for a 'new' phone, when it's no better than my existing one, only smaller.
Then the Compact was announced, with same high-end specs as all the other flagship phones, and fit the bill perfectly!

I bought a Z1c after a "Hands-On" in a shop and I had the same reasons as many others: Size and Spec
Size:
Some people state that the size of an IPhone 4s is perfect, some other prefer a 5". So it's more a point of view and taste.
I've had many "hands-on" with different devices and for my taste/usage everything above 4.6" would be too much.
If possible I still like to use my thumb for scrolling, etc and with Z1c I can reach almost every corner of the screen.
Specs:
I guess I don't have to go in detail? It's just perfect and is a great successor of my Xperia S.

Size. and HQ Sony Camera
So thats what I thought...but after I saw how bad the cam is, probably will get rid of this piece of crap.

Steve_God said:
The only one thing that I really like about the iPhone 5 compared to my HTC, is the size... it's made it feel massive, and now I've used both side by side, I really notice how much nicer a smaller phone is to use day to day.
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Yeah, that's a very improtant reason. A phone ought to be portable if it isn't then you're compromising for something else.
I take it you're not much of a web browser either ?
Steve_God said:
Went to look at all the other 'Mini' phones, and they're all the same spec as my current HTC One X, which considering it's nearly 2 years old, seemed pointless to pay for a 'new' phone, when it's no better than my existing one, only smaller.
Then the Compact was announced, with same high-end specs as all the other flagship phones, and fit the bill perfectly!
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Sony is teaching everybody else how to make a compact instead of some crippled smaller unit.

Milltach said:
Size. and HQ Sony Camera
So thats what I thought...but after I saw how bad the cam is, probably will get rid of this piece of crap.
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wow. That's what i call a rash decision.
Perhaps you might wanna take a thought about waiting for the next 2 or 3 ROM-Updates from Sony before "getting rid of this piece of crap"? Time tells us that newly released flagships might get better with new FW-Versions....

styxter said:
If i had a chance to choose from z1 to z1c ill get z1c. Battery and screen size. Ratio of battery to screen size is almost perfect. I hope thwy should keep this ratio.
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Power to weight ratio.
Z1c endurance is 65 h, whereas the Z1 is 53h. The browsing doubled in time compared to the Z1.
Let's see how real world screen on times compare but i expect they will be better based on gsm arena's benchmarks.

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Perhaps you might wanna take a thought about waiting for the next 2 or 3 ROM-Updates from Sony before "getting rid of this piece of crap"?
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If it´s really a software issue. I mean my cam is making yellow pictures - this cannot be a random software issue. I have to use my nexus 4 to make photos, that´s crazy, why do I have this new phone?
But for 500€ it´s not ok that sony is selling untested smartphones

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If it´s really a software issue. I mean my cam is making yellow pictures - this cannot be a random software issue. I have to use my nexus 4 to make photos, that´s crazy, why do I have this new phone?
But for 500€ it´s not ok that sony is selling untested smartphones
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i remember pictures being pretty crappy on my HTC One last year. Some firmware-updates really improved quality a lot. So don't underestimate the mighty power of good firmwares.

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I take it you're not much of a web browser either ?.
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I browse the web a lot on my mobile when I'm on the go for quick bits of info, and the size difference between the HTC One X, and the iPhone didn't make a great deal of difference, as you still need to zoom in on most non-mobile optimised pages either way.
Although if I know I'm going to be browsing for a long period of time (20+ mins) I'll always jump on a PC as it's much easier.

The reason I went for the compact if the normal was the IPS screen. Much better viewing angles and improved design.
I'm not bothered about screen size at all. But I don't spend all day looking at my phone to be honest. Better in the pocket that a big screen phone also
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wow. That's what i call a rash decision.
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+1 Has any Phone been perfect upon release, I'd wait until until a FW update to see if that sorts it, if not return it.

Milltach said:
If it´s really a software issue. I mean my cam is making yellow pictures - this cannot be a random software issue.
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Is this indoors or outdoors ?

Been using the S7 while I wait for the new Note 7 and...

I don't know if it is me but it just seem like the phone is just better. Either that or I'm just falling in love with it haha. Firstly the speaker is substantially louder. It's as loud as mt Note 5 running TekHD. Battery seems to last longer and I appear to have a lot less stutter/lag issues. Wondering if I should just return the S7 and get the S7 Edge and call it a night. Gorilla Glass 4 I feel is far superior simply because it is more scratch resistant. I would still use my Note 5 but I am tired of constantly running out of space.
Wanted to see if anyone has had similar experiences.

The curves are too pronounced, it ruins the viewing of the screen.

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The curves are too pronounced, it ruins the viewing of the screen.
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Agreed. Personally I hate the curves. Not only do I click stuff by mistake on edges, I can't find a good screen protector....
Note 9 better have flat screen version. Too bad it probably won't....

the screen in note 7 is just fine for me

The difference between the S7 edge and the Note 7 is the S-pen. I cant understand consumers who pay the extra for the S-pen then don't use it? The S7 is a very good mobile and with deals going on right now is a bloomin bargain. If you are happy with the S7 you could think about keeping it and saving your cash.
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