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[Q] So how many have Bootloop/Dead Earpiece Problems so far?

Hi there, both problems crop up more and more over the internets.
hmm wanted to post links to both motorola support forums and the german forum android-hilfe. but alas i can't. i'm too new here i guess.
Anyone yet?

12 days and no issues apart from ones caused myself

do you use the headphone jack regularly?

julschau said:
Hi there, both problems crop up more and more over the internets.
hmm wanted to post links to both motorola support forums and the german forum android-hilfe. but alas i can't. i'm too new here i guess.
Anyone yet?
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Dead earpiece here.

ive only used headset twice to listen to music for a total of about 3 hours

Higgsy said:
ive only used headset twice to listen to music for a total of about 3 hours
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Supposedly use of the stereo jack aggravates the problem. I see this a lot in Europe and very little in the US. So far.

scrannel said:
Supposedly use of the stereo jack aggravates the problem. I see this a lot in Europe and very little in the US. So far.
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Yeah it would be helpful if you post saying you are having an issue if you would also say what version of the phone you have. US or UK or whatever else is out there.
Seems mostly like there are two hardware versions, but I could be wrong.

i am not buying this phone until I get more info on this problem. many people on the net have this problem.

less than a week of ownership and no issues so far

julschau said:
Hi there, both problems crop up more and more over the internets.
hmm wanted to post links to both motorola support forums and the german forum android-hilfe. but alas i can't. i'm too new here i guess.
Anyone yet?
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Honestly I only see the reboot on the non-US Motorola forum: three or four people in the UK. They are claiming it's related to loss of 3G?

i think it has something to do with specific SIM cards (3n or 5n). theres more info on the german forum of android-hilfe.de

julschau said:
i think it has something to do with specific SIM cards (3n or 5n). theres more info on the german forum of android-hilfe.de
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That's the info that the UK guys are pondering.

julschau said:
i think it has something to do with specific SIM cards (3n or 5n). theres more info on the german forum of android-hilfe.de
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Sorry for my n00bishness but what is the difference between an 3n and 5n sim card, also how do I tell which type I have?
Thanks

Broken earpiece here. Phone wasn't even a week old. Had used the headset a few times.
Now I have my second Defy and hope that it doesn't happen again.

necrolyte said:
Broken earpiece here. Phone wasn't even a week old. Had used the headset a few times.
Now I have my second Defy and hope that it doesn't happen again.
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Where are you? I'm hoping they'll replace mine as opposed to sending it off to get it repaired.
How long have you had the new one?

Less than a week and no issues as of yet. I have had two random reboots so far but both were when my battery was under ten percent. Only issue I've had this far is battery life but I think its in part to me running launcher pro and not rooting yet, and the fact I use my phone ALOT. Overall I'm happy though, so much so that I will pay full price for a second one for the wife!

I am in Germany. They wanted to send it in for repairs first but i had them exchange it on the spot. The second one is on it's first week now. Didn't play around with the headset but am calling myself every now and then to check if the earpiece still works

Must say it's a little worrying reading about this issue. I guess the advice ought to be to simply avoid using the headphones socket! Out of the question for some perhaps, but I would point out that bluetooth headphones/headsets are actually very affordable now. £20-£30 gets a fairly good pair of headphones, which will render this issue kinda harmless (if usage of the socket is indeed the culprit). Plus, who wants cables trailing out of their mobile phone anyway? Unless you absolutely need to use the onboard FM radio, you may as well just leave the 3.5mm socket alone, especially if there's a risk of breaking the earpiece speaker.
Despite this minor issue, I think the Defy is an awesome android phone, and highly recommended. Perhaps in the coming weeks Motorola will acknowledge this problem and sort it out completely - fixing the jack properly for future production, and maybe offering free bluetooth headphones to those who've bought a Defy with this weak socket/earpiece speaker issue (well it would only be fair, certainly cheaper than furnishing all early customers with new Defys... or would that seem to be a far-fetched dream? - help me out, I've no experience with Motorola's aftersales support! Lets hope they feel obliged to do the right thing for all of us who've decided to go for something a little different to the iphone/bberry/htc crowd)

mindlessdrone said:
Must say it's a little worrying reading about this issue. I guess the advice ought to be to simply avoid using the headphones socket! Out of the question for some perhaps, but I would point out that bluetooth headphones/headsets are actually very affordable now. £20-£30 gets a fairly good pair of headphones, which will render this issue kinda harmless (if usage of the socket is indeed the culprit). Plus, who wants cables trailing out of their mobile phone anyway? Unless you absolutely need to use the onboard FM radio, you may as well just leave the 3.5mm socket alone, especially if there's a risk of breaking the earpiece speaker.
Despite this minor issue, I think the Defy is an awesome android phone, and highly recommended. Perhaps in the coming weeks Motorola will acknowledge this problem and sort it out completely - fixing the jack properly for future production, and maybe offering free bluetooth headphones to those who've bought a Defy with this weak socket/earpiece speaker issue (well it would only be fair, certainly cheaper than furnishing all early customers with new Defys... or would that seem to be a far-fetched dream? - help me out, I've no experience with Motorola's aftersales support! Lets hope they feel obliged to do the right thing for all of us who've decided to go for something a little different to the iphone/bberry/htc crowd)
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I love the phone too, but we shouldn't have to work around problems like this. What's the point in having a jack if you can't use it?

Except I believe the radio (FM) will not work unless earphones are physically inserted because they act as antenna.

External Gamepad

Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone knew of any aftermarket gamepads/keyboards that can attach to the Galaxy via bluetooth/micro usb.
This is due to my friend showing off his Xperia Play, which obviously isn't quite the phone that the SGS2 is. But bragging rights are always nice.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: I've had a look at Zeemote JS1, MSI Chainpus BGP100, Phonejoy and iControlPad. None are what I'm after, I was picturing something that transforms the phone into something similar to the Xperia Play, but it doesn't seem to exist

Phonejoy. There's a thread about it here and it can be bought here.

Thanks
I was thinking more along the lines of something smaller, that attaches to the device? I understand that there probably isn't anything out there. But it could be something to look forward to as the phone becomes more popular

Towards the end of the thread the icontrolpad is mentioned. I don't think there's much else that works yet though.
I'd like a phonejoy personally, but that's to hook up to my 50" plasma and MHL adaptor, not really a great portable system!

k1000716 said:
Towards the end of the thread the icontrolpad is mentioned. I don't think there's much else that works yet though.
I'd like a phonejoy personally, but that's to hook up to my 50" plasma and MHL adaptor, not really a great portable system!
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That would be quite nice! It could also work well with my ASUS TF101. I guess we'll have to give it time, or give up
Thanks for your help, I appreciate it

I've always thought about getting a Gamepad then the HDMI cable. Basically playing Emulators on the big screen. That basically be making your phone a game system.

I'm running CyanogenMod, because I love it. But they haven't sorted the HDMI drivers, so I haven't got a cable yet. What would the display look like on a 32" LCD or 50" LCD? That's quite a resolution stretch!

DallasJones said:
I'm running CyanogenMod, because I love it. But they haven't sorted the HDMI drivers, so I haven't got a cable yet. What would the display look like on a 32" LCD or 50" LCD? That's quite a resolution stretch!
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Pretty damned good actually. Have a look at NZtechfreak's mhl gaming review on the clove blog.
I've only used mine a couple of times so far and the hd videos I've had looked sensational.

That's brilliant! I'd best get on that

FirstNoobToBrickHisPhone said:
I've always thought about getting a Gamepad then the HDMI cable. Basically playing Emulators on the big screen. That basically be making your phone a game system.
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Exactly my thinking too. And with phones due out next year having such powerful processors they become the perfect multi-use device.
Nice username by the way.
DallasJones said:
That's brilliant! I'd best get on that
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Have a read through some of NZtechfreak's other threads to see discussion about MHL, USB OTG, extended batteries, gamepads etc. He does user based tech reviews for Clove so is pretty knowledgeable and has access to some pretty good gear.
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Check out Phonejoy's website - they've now got MHL cables (adaptor with a 1.5m hdmi cable).

k1000716 said:
Have a read through some of NZtechfreak's other threads to see discussion about MHL, USB OTG, extended batteries, gamepads etc. He does user based tech reviews for Clove so is pretty knowledgeable and has access to some pretty good gear.
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Will do, I was thinking about getting an extended battery. (Samsung just released a 2000 MaH)
But I'd need a new skin for the back cover. I'm using this one right now with the Matte finish and I love it! http://www.istyles.com/milky-way-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skin-p-70295.html

if we're talking about gamepads,
is it possible to connect the wiimote as a mouse/keyboard?
I found Wii Controller IME but it doesnt works for me.

eranyanay said:
if we're talking about gamepads,
is it possible to connect the wiimote as a mouse/keyboard?
I found Wii Controller IME but it doesnt works for me.
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From memory it has been discussed before and the answer was no. At the moment the search function is down so I can't even find the thread for you...
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It apparently works with CyanogenMOD and MIUI. It won't run on anything based on the stock firmware.

k1000716 said:
From memory it has been discussed before and the answer was no. At the moment the search function is down so I can't even find the thread for you...
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It apparently works with CyanogenMOD and MIUI. It won't run on anything based on the stock firmware.
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Right now, the CyanogenMod and MUIU roms don't have fully functional bluetooth drivers, due to the sheer complexity in writing them. Team Hacksung is working on this though, as far as I'm aware the only part of bluetooth that is working is file transfer.

DallasJones said:
Right now, the CyanogenMod and MUIU roms don't have fully functional bluetooth drivers, due to the sheer complexity in writing them. Team Hacksung is working on this though, as far as I'm aware the only part of bluetooth that is working is file transfer.
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Are you sure (I guess you are though!)? After reading through some of the threads yesterday it seemed as if people already had them working. I guess I misread/misunderstood.
I need to get some cash together to get a phonejoy, have been wanting one for a while now (just hard to justify!!).

I'm not 100% sure. That was my interpretation. I've decided to get an MHL adapter, and a Phonejoy. They'll fix the drivers eventually if they're not working already

Wiimotes etc do work with MIUI and CM already, lots of user reports confirming this.
MHL doesn't work though, and considering TV Out in the original SGS was a problem for CM developers (still not working as far as I'm aware), it may be some time before they sort out that aspect for us with our SGSIIs.

Well I just bought both, I might go back to a Samsung rom. CyanogenMod has been less than impressive with updates lately
EDIT: Is this as impressive as it sounds?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171523

NZtechfreak said:
Wiimotes etc do work with MIUI and CM already, lots of user reports confirming this.
MHL doesn't work though, and considering TV Out in the original SGS was a problem for CM developers (still not working as far as I'm aware), it may be some time before they sort out that aspect for us with our SGSIIs.
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Sweet, a visit from the much quoted man himself. Now you can answer questions without me having to locate your old threads.
Having no MHL is a major for me. Why bother with a wiimote if you're playing on a 4.3" screen... Just my opinion of course. I'd much rather the Phonejoy/MHL combo.

His reviews sold me
It was a pleasure, gentlemen.

Sony Mirrorlink Car Stereo

I have been reading about this car stereo since CES and cant wait to purchase it. Though I can't find any information on whether the Galaxy Nexus will be compatible with the app. It was announced that the SGIII would receive it but has anyone heard about the G Nex getting it? If not, hopefully the dev community will be able to port it over...Here is a link to the actual stereo...
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_158XAV601B/Sony-XAV-601BT.html?tp=20217

Why not get this one...
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_333ASTROID/Parrot-ASTEROID.html?search=parrot_astro&skipvs=T
It runs on android is btw.
Double din comes out later this year.
Sent from my Maguro

I considered that one before the Sony one was announced. I like that I would possibly be able to control Rdio on a large screen and it connect to my steering wheel controls (with an added accessory) and not have to fumble with my phone. Plus the option of my passengers being able to watch DVD's and Netflix is pretty cool.

Ya that would be nice for em. As far as the release and the features of the double din I'm not positive but its in the works. I work at a car audio shop and we had a webinar with them and said it was gonna be bahdass. Also the pioneer aporadio 2 has HDMI output and has optional MHL cable for android
... also it would be sick if it were possible to root and develop a custom from for a radio. Seems interesting not sure if source would be available though lol. I know they had updates on there sight but don't remember seeing code. They gotta give us something though
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Ah yeah it would be amazing to have a custom rom on a car stereo.
I just need a stereo that I can control Rdio and a few other music apps from so I can get over not needing/wanting the pogo car dock...

Not sure about the Sony you are talking about since the company I work for doesn't carry it but anything with Bluetooth a2dp is the way to go as far as android goes the USB interface sucks for android devices reads ringtones and pretty much every audio file there is as well as shows every folder you have. Not to mention I can't connect to a single deck through USB because of mtp . So yeah. I would highly recconend actually testing the head unit you are interested in and make sure it works the way you want it to because car audio is pretty depressing when it comes to android compatability
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Awesome. Thanks for the heads up. I will wait for a local car audio store here in Houston to have one on display first.

Ya that's definitely the way to go about it. like I said car audio hasn't shown android no love... everything is made for apple -.-
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jstew182 said:
Awesome. Thanks for the heads up. I will wait for a local car audio store here in Houston to have one on display first.
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Awesome, Houston here too. I have been looking for more info on Mirrorlink as well. I started this thread trying to gather some, but not much headway has been made. I cancelled my EVO 4G LTE because it was not advertised with Mirrorlink compatibility. Waiting for Sprint to get the SIII next month hopefully.
http://www.mp3car.com/android-table...ink-xav601bt-701hd-android-ish-head-unit.html

I am very interested in this myself and since Nokia is the most supported brand I am hoping that we will see some Windows Phone compatibility in the near future. I did think it was pretty funny that all the phones supported except one were Symbian though, I thought Symbian was on the outs.

FYI the XAV-601BT is out now.

But nobody reviewed that device yet

Has anyone tried pairing a mirrorlink enabled phone to the head unit and test it out? Im planning to buy this head unit in the next quarter so i'd like some advices.

dj_ghosie said:
Has anyone tried pairing a mirrorlink enabled phone to the head unit and test it out? Im planning to buy this head unit in the next quarter so i'd like some advices.
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HI, just as an alternative, i bought the Alpine ICS X8 with mirror link, as yet it doesnt support my galaxy s3...

The Sony XAV-601BT just received a firmware update (get it at the Sony support site) that adds support for the Galaxy S3. I can't tell you much about it as I have the Nexus. Hopefully some ROM devs start to incorporate MirrorLink into their OS builds. From what I read in another thread, it isn't as easy as just getting the APK from the S3.

[SEAT] Leon: Mark 3

Hi guys,
Hope I am not wrong in posting this thread, if I am then just remove it.
I have a SEAT Leon mark 3 and ever since I bought it the infotainment system has not once been updated in regards to software. It does have a software update section but it doesn't say anywhere to check for updates. I have tried google and cant find anything, any help please?
Thank you.

my gf "just" got a leon (2014 facelift) too, nice drive by the way.
why do you want to update anthing? i think updates will only be distributed if there is a really big error in the device/software ... and there will (in my experience) NEVER be new features for something they already sold ... buy a new car in 3 years is the deal here
by the way the speed recognition is a major pain as its extremely slow ... everything else is OK from what i can tell.

elchmartin said:
my gf "just" got a leon (2014 facelift) too, nice drive by the way.
why do you want to update anthing? i think updates will only be distributed if there is a really big error in the device/software ... and there will (in my experience) NEVER be new features for something they already sold ... buy a new car in 3 years is the deal here
by the way the speed recognition is a major pain as its extremely slow ... everything else is OK from what i can tell.
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I don't know im that kind of person that always wants the latest stuff but i understand where you said it will update only if it is broken.. no worries and yes, brilliant drive.

elchmartin said:
by the way the speed recognition is a major pain as its extremely slow ... everything else is OK from what i can tell.
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actually i meant to write *SPEECH* recognition instead of speed ... sorry for that
anyway yeah ive seen some VWs with friends & family, big/small nav-devices. never a really up-to-date functionality, CPU almost always too slow if you are used to a top smartphone/tablet ... but the units work for some good 10 years.
the future belongs to mirrorlink or whatsoever its called, smartphones are just faster and are being replaced at least every 2 years by the user.
cheers!

Hi guys, just a question about BT connection, probably It's the same on all BT system, I don't know, but why It's not possible to connect two devices (for example 2 smartphone) at the same time?
I have to switch and connect only one of them every time, It's a BT protocol or depends from SEAT software?
Thank you!

vime81 said:
Hi guys, just a question about BT connection, probably It's the same on all BT system, I don't know, but why It's not possible to connect two devices (for example 2 smartphone) at the same time?
I have to switch and connect only one of them every time, It's a BT protocol or depends from SEAT software?
Thank you!
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it is only possible to connect one (1) device at the same time.
i do not know if it is a BT protocol thing or just a restriction in the SEAT software, but it is the same with pretty much every headunit i know... (VW/AUDI/SKODA/SEAT, Mercedes, BMW, Alpine, Clarion, Pioneer...)
i guess it is like that because modern BT connections also get the phonebook and 2 simultaneuos connections would mix that up ...
in my opinion this makes perfect sense unless you really need 2 phone personally.
start thinking about a dual-sim-phone if you really need this.

elchmartin said:
it is only possible to connect one (1) device at the same time.
i do not know if it is a BT protocol thing or just a restriction in the SEAT software, but it is the same with pretty much every headunit i know... (VW/AUDI/SKODA/SEAT, Mercedes, BMW, Alpine, Clarion, Pioneer...)
i guess it is like that because modern BT connections also get the phonebook and 2 simultaneuos connections would mix that up ...
in my opinion this makes perfect sense unless you really need 2 phone personally.
start thinking about a dual-sim-phone if you really need this.
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Thanks! Yes I need to connect 2 phone at the same time, my personal and the business phone...but is not possible... (I've to choose between my wife and my boss! [emoji33])
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vime81 said:
I've to choose between my wife and my boss!
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Put both in flight mode while you drive

elchmartin said:
Put both in flight mode while you drive
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Humm.. maybe!

The updates for the car radio is bringed by seat, but at the moment, seat no have updates.
Also, Seat is oferring a new model of radio card with mirror link

As a person who works in the automotive industry, I can only tell you that most, if not all updates are only possible in a service. On another note, updates rarely, if ever, bring new features.
So the only thing you could do is go to your local official VW service (or one where you know someone) and ask for an update. Be prepared to pay some good $$$ for getting a few (unnoticed) bugs squashed.

Here you can find the software updates for your 5F w w w.clubseatleon.n e t/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=118140, it's a spanish froum, use translator

well if anyone need i found a update for the mib 1 and the mib2 screens
it can update to version 480 for the mib 1 and 0330 for the mib 2
you can find the interstions and the files in the link below
have fun and thanks would be welcome
https://www.clubseatleon.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=118140&start=600#p1928908

Random Question.
I updated my 5F0 MIB1 Unit to 480 in early January but since then my TMC Traffic hasn't worked - That's the "Traffic Button" it just contantly says "No Reports Found" but a guy 10 miles away receives loads.
Any quick fixes for this?

Hello, can someone post that 480 SW file for download, all the old loinks are dead...

Govee home/bt issue

Hello
Got some rather nice LED lights to bling up the family’s day van for Xmas. Work very well but for some reason the android HU won’t see them in Bluetooth in settings the BT/phone app or from the Govee app.
Interestingly when installed the app on my iPhone 7 the govee app saw the LED lights instantly and connected so I can control and change settings.
Just won’t work on the android hu which is a shame.
It’s an LM running Oreo 8 and has no issues finding other devices like OBD11 or other iPhones etc. Just won’t see this led light set.
As noted iPhone connected instantly from the app so it doesn’t seem to be the device itself.
Any ideas how to get the head unit to spot it?, not the end of the world but would be much neater to control the lights from the head unit.
https://www.govee.com/productDetail?sku=H6113&asin=B0798KMJFG
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i'm wondering if you ever found a solution. Im in the same situation with exactly the same Govee app haha. Would love to know if anyone figured this out

ilker290 said:
i'm wondering if you ever found a solution. Im in the same situation with exactly the same Govee app haha. Would love to know if anyone figured this out
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Hello nope never sorted it, no one here responded and Govee were no help.
I sold the van and fitted another android 10 unit in my Audi and that won’t connect either so annoying.

Danno1975 said:
Hello nope never sorted it, no one here responded and Govee were no help.
I sold the van and fitted another android 10 unit in my Audi and that won’t connect either so annoying.
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I have a head-unit from SYGAV in my Toyota. Its android 10. Reaching out to the manufacturer, they came back to me today and said that the likely issue is that the head unit only works as a bluetooth receiver... Thinking I may be SOL and if your head unit is anything similar, then you may be too...

ilker290 said:
I have a head-unit from SYGAV in my Toyota. Its android 10. Reaching out to the manufacturer, they came back to me today and said that the likely issue is that the head unit only works as a bluetooth receiver... Thinking I may be SOL and if your head unit is anything similar, then you may be too...
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that makes sense actually. All it can connect to is the phone for Streaming and calls and we know the BT in these is rubbish too.
a shame as it would be very cool to control the ambience from the head unit as if factory.