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Still waiting for my preorder, how long?

Anyone have an idea how long will i have to wait for my preorder? I was informed by the reseller that samsung is doing "quality checking" on the phones, that shouldt take long right?

Like they ship faulty sh*t all the time.. Now when the batteries explode they finally care.

masaforce said:
Anyone have an idea how long will i have to wait for my preorder? I was informed by the reseller that samsung is doing "quality checking" on the phones, that shouldt take long right?
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It's going to take a bit of time......if you didn't hear the news....there is a recall going on..currently all authorize samsung dealers are not selling the note 7 until further notice........my assumption is that they will start shipping again after they get stuff straighten out with the existing phone first.....but you should call your local Samsung phone number to make sure....

Ambrosios said:
It's going to take a bit of time......if you didn't hear the news....there is a recall going on..currently all authorize samsung dealers are not selling the note 7 until further notice........my assumption is that they will start shipping again after they get stuff straighten out with the existing phone first.....but you should call your local Samsung phone number to make sure....
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Much dots? Yes ik everything. They wont tell me sh*t. I just wanted to hear somekind of a prediction of the time that it takes.

masaforce said:
Much dots? Yes ik everything. They wont tell me sh*t. I just wanted to hear somekind of a prediction of the time that it takes.
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lol....lots of dots.....i like to type that way...
i dont think they even know when....i know that in my country.........the recall process is starting on monday......which means some people will be able to get their new non-explosive phone on monday....i am in Canada......so i am assuming once they have extra in stock that they should be okay to sell?.......i dont work there...so i don't know........and can't comment on other countries....

the UK exchanges also start from Monday, but I would assume they need to get all the phones swapped before they can allocate the stock to people who have the phone on order.
so depending how fast they can swap all the phones in the wild and have spare stock, will dictate how quick you get your ordered phone.
because the danger of explosion will mean all firms will have to prioritise the people who have the possibly defective devices.

Belimawr said:
the UK exchanges also start from Monday, but I would assume they need to get all the phones swapped before they can allocate the stock to people who have the phone on order.
so depending how fast they can swap all the phones in the wild and have spare stock, will dictate how quick you get your ordered phone.
because the danger of explosion will mean all firms will have to prioritise the people who have the possibly defective devices.
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Here in finland we get everything else late too so.

Recall IMEI Block, How Low Will They Go?

Ok, so I'm one of the "brave" ones that is keeping the Galaxy Note 7 despite what's going on (I'm sorry if you don't agree with this).
Anyways, so simply enough I have used a 'Package Disabler app' to block any future updates that could be pushed onto the Note 7 that would cap the battery charge limit or annoying me with any pop ups & notifications to return it like they did on the first recall; if T-Mobile keeps sending me text messages to return it, then I'm blocking their number as well... these things will NO LONGER a problem.
My only concern now is that since the CPSC is involved and has pretty much officially issued a recall to return all the Note 7's back to Samsung, how LOW will they go to get us to do that? The worse case scenario that I have seen people bring up is that somehow, someway the carriers will "blacklist" or "block" the IMEI numbers of any active Note 7's on their network, thus rendering the phone pretty much useless.
I'm not sure if there's a deadline to return these recalled devices, but I would HATE for my IMEI to be blocked out of service 3 or 6 months down the line & then T-Mobile telling me I have to go through Samsung for a refund now since I missed the return window for carrier returns & exchanges.
I think this is down right RIDICOULUS, (we live in America) but I am not completely dismissing the possibility of this happening considering all of the bad energy behind this whole situation.
Just a thought though, do you think that maybe this will be the next step, to block the IMEI completely & FORCE an exchange from us "diehard" fans REFUSING to return it? Seems like they could flex that muscle in this situation but I don't know.
What do you all think? Any input is GREATLY appreciated!

lorenzobjuarez said:
Ok, so I'm one of the "brave" ones that is keeping the Galaxy Note 7 despite what's going on (I'm sorry if you don't agree with this).
Anyways, so simply enough I have used a 'Package Disabler app' to block any future updates that could be pushed onto the Note 7 that would cap the battery charge limit or annoying me with any pop ups & notifications to return it like they did on the first recall; if T-Mobile keeps sending me text messages to return it, then I'm blocking their number as well... these things will NO LONGER a problem.
My only concern now is that since the CPSC is involved and has pretty much officially issued a recall to return all the Note 7's back to Samsung, how LOW will they go to get us to do that? The worse case scenario that I have seen people bring up is that somehow, someway the carriers will "blacklist" or "block" the IMEI numbers of any active Note 7's on their network, thus rendering the phone pretty much useless.
I'm not sure if there's a deadline to return these recalled devices, but I would HATE for my IMEI to be blocked out of service 3 or 6 months down the line & then T-Mobile telling me I have to go through Samsung for a refund now since I missed the return window for carrier returns & exchanges.
I think this is down right RIDICOULUS, (we live in America) but I am not completely dismissing the possibility of this happening considering all of the bad energy behind this whole situation.
Just a thought though, do you think that maybe this will be the next step, to block the IMEI completely & FORCE an exchange from us "diehard" fans REFUSING to return it? Seems like they could flex that muscle in this situation but I don't know.
What do you all think? Any input is GREATLY appreciated!
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Yes it is i can confirm from a manger friend who works at verizon
Expect this in the coming months

I'm glad to see someone else is planning on keeping the Note 7. I'm thinking of holding on to mine until the S8 comes out in February. The risk is low (statistically) and I love the phone. I disabled software updates.
If they do the IMEI block, I'm obviously sunk. I suppose they might do that at some point, but I assume they would have to give advance warning. I'd also like to see if they put a deadline on returning the phone--although I can't imagine they could refuse a return after that.

eelton said:
I'm glad to see someone else is planning on keeping the Note 7. I'm thinking of holding on to mine until the S8 comes out in February. The risk is low (statistically) and I love the phone. I disabled software updates.
If they do the IMEI block, I'm obviously sunk. I suppose they might do that at some point, but I assume they would have to give advance warning. I'd also like to see if they put a deadline on returning the phone--although I can't imagine they could refuse a return after that.
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they have said for everyone to turn off the phone and return it to the retailer, so they wouldn't actually need to give notice before blocking the phones as they have already directly informed everyone to turn off and return them now.
so if you are keeping one all you are doing is keeping a phone that is likely to have no further development and also likely to be heavily targeted by people to stop use of the phone. basically hanging onto the phone all you are doing is asking for problems, as you are keeping something that has been deemed unsafe and had a direct instruction from the manufacturer to turn off and return as soon as physically possible.

Belimawr said:
they have said for everyone to turn off the phone and return it to the retailer, so they wouldn't actually need to give notice before blocking the phones as they have already directly informed everyone to turn off and return them now.
so if you are keeping one all you are doing is keeping a phone that is likely to have no further development and also likely to be heavily targeted by people to stop use of the phone. basically hanging onto the phone all you are doing is asking for problems, as you are keeping something that has been deemed unsafe and had a direct instruction from the manufacturer to turn off and return as soon as physically possible.
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By direct instruction from the Manufacturer does this mean Samsung has sent out Emails or Txts to Note 7 Customers? I ask because from what I have heard they haven't (yet/so far) like was the scenario during the initial recall.

The Phone Company said:
By direct instruction from the Manufacturer does this mean Samsung has sent out Emails or Txts to Note 7 Customers? I ask because from what I have heard they haven't (yet/so far) like was the scenario during the initial recall.
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they have issued the instruction via various news outlets and media as they have to by law and also via the phone suppliers, networks in the UK have been texting/contacting all Note owners telling them to turn off and return the device. so they have fulfilled their need to give notice that is why yesterday there was a massive amount of media coverage as the media coverage is used as a form of notice as it also reaches people who purchased from unofficial sources.

Belimawr said:
they have said for everyone to turn off the phone and return it to the retailer, so they wouldn't actually need to give notice before blocking the phones as they have already directly informed everyone to turn off and return them now.
so if you are keeping one all you are doing is keeping a phone that is likely to have no further development and also likely to be heavily targeted by people to stop use of the phone. basically hanging onto the phone all you are doing is asking for problems, as you are keeping something that has been deemed unsafe and had a direct instruction from the manufacturer to turn off and return as soon as physically possible.
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Again it's a VOLUNTARY recall. Read for yourself is in the first line and was updated today 10/13/16
http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/?cid=ppc-

Belimawr said:
they have said for everyone to turn off the phone and return it to the retailer, so they wouldn't actually need to give notice before blocking the phones as they have already directly informed everyone to turn off and return them now.
so if you are keeping one all you are doing is keeping a phone that is likely to have no further development and also likely to be heavily targeted by people to stop use of the phone. basically hanging onto the phone all you are doing is asking for problems, as you are keeping something that has been deemed unsafe and had a direct instruction from the manufacturer to turn off and return as soon as physically possible.
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Belimawr said:
they have issued the instruction via various news outlets and media as they have to by law and also via the phone suppliers, networks in the UK have been texting/contacting all Note owners telling them to turn off and return the device. so they have fulfilled their need to give notice that is why yesterday there was a massive amount of media coverage as the media coverage is used as a form of notice as it also reaches people who purchased from unofficial sources.
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You do realize, especially with the advent of the Internet (which brought about 'Alternative Media' that some of us Free-Thinkers totally do NOT follow Mainstream News in the slightest, or even have TV's, as anyone in their right mind should have figured out by now that 'News' is nothing more than misery and fear-mongering.
I choose to steer well clear of such form of negative mind-controlling indoctrination and as an individual who has control of their own mind I live life independently.
Thank you, and have a GREAT day!

I feel kind of sad
I feel kind of sad. Out of the large number of these phones only an extremely small fraction had a problem. We don't even know what the complete story was with the ones that had issues: Did the users use after-market chargers? Was it only a small lot of batteries that had issues?. I was looking forward to saving up and getting one.
The good side is that Samsung is a great company. I'm sure they will come out with a Note 7.5 or Note 8 in the near future that will be even better.

The Phone Company said:
You do realize, especially with the advent of the Internet (which brought about 'Alternative Media' that some of us Free-Thinkers totally do NOT follow Mainstream News in the slightest, or even have TV's, as anyone in their right mind should have figured out by now that 'News' is nothing more than misery and fear-mongering.
I choose to steer well clear of such form of negative mind-controlling indoctrination and as an individual who has control of their own mind I live life independently.
Thank you, and have a GREAT day!
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But yet you have a smart device.... Way to be a free thinker.

The Phone Company said:
You do realize, especially with the advent of the Internet (which brought about 'Alternative Media' that some of us Free-Thinkers totally do NOT follow Mainstream News in the slightest, or even have TV's, as anyone in their right mind should have figured out by now that 'News' is nothing more than misery and fear-mongering.
I choose to steer well clear of such form of negative mind-controlling indoctrination and as an individual who has control of their own mind I live life independently.
Thank you, and have a GREAT day!
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yet you are posting on a site that also covered the news that the phones should be turned off and returned, that is why I said other media as well as they have sent the info out in that many ways unless you are living under a rock you will have seen it.
@Novarider they have to put that as they can't force people to give up the phone, but basically by the way they have worked it if you hang onto the phone should it fail or have problems it comes back to you, should it break down the road it's discontinued so you have no option to get it fixed or replaced, the same as after the instruction the phone companies and other companies have the right to ban the phones use over safety concerns, so while they say voluntary basically you are taking all responsibility for the device.
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Aethera said:
I feel kind of sad. Out of the large number of these phones only an extremely small fraction had a problem. We don't even know what the complete story was with the ones that had issues: Did the users use after-market chargers? Was it only a small lot of batteries that had issues?. I was looking forward to saving up and getting one.
The good side is that Samsung is a great company. I'm sure they will come out with a Note 7.5 or Note 8 in the near future that will be even better.
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the problem is with the new ones there is too much fear from people so it was easier to just kill the device.

Here in France it seems that Samsung will do the replacement of the phones, not the carriers. I think I'll ask for a S7Edge, and then I'm considering keeping both phones, not retirning the Note7... Apparently in the first recall, only the first phone batch was IMEI disabled, so if you didn't return it, you would end up with a phone-disabled device. But I don't really care if they disable my Note7 IMEI, as I wouldn't use it as a phone anymore but more like a Note phablet/media player/relic of the past (and kept safely inside a metallic/glass box while not in use). My only hope is that they would disable the new S7E I'd got, simply because I didn't return the Note7... But it's going to go to waste after all so I don't really think they'll care about it... What'd ya think? (Please no comments about risks and safety).

Rado_vr6 said:
But yet you have a smart device.... Way to be a free thinker.
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You got me there!
Although I did sell my Gear VR on eBay as I wholeheartedly do NOT consent to "virtual" reality. ACTUAL reality for me all day long please!

Mwyann said:
Here in France it seems that Samsung will do the replacement of the phones, not the carriers. I think I'll ask for a S7Edge, and then I'm considering keeping both phones, not retirning the Note7... Apparently in the first recall, only the first phone batch was IMEI disabled, so if you didn't return it, you would end up with a phone-disabled device. But I don't really care if they disable my Note7 IMEI, as I wouldn't use it as a phone anymore but more like a Note phablet/media player/relic of the past (and kept safely inside a metallic/glass box while not in use). My only hope is that they would disable the new S7E I'd got, simply because I didn't return the Note7... But it's going to go to waste after all so I don't really think they'll care about it... What'd ya think? (Please no comments about risks and safety).
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you will totally have to return the device to get a new one, as if you don't you technically still have the product even if they disable it.

They would not call it a voluntary recall then torn around and blacklist the imei of the devices. Blacklisting them would make it not voluntary

Belimawr said:
you will totally have to return the device to get a new one, as if you don't you technically still have the product even if they disable it.
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On first recall I got the replacement phone shipped with a box to return the old phone. I could've kept both phones if I wanted to. I'm pretty sure they'll do the same thing again but this time I'm really considering keeping it, not returning any phone back to Samsung. When IU asked the Samsung lady I got on the phone, she said that old phones will be IMEI blacklisted anyway, she didn't told me about anything else... but who knows .
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From Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote7/comments/53rngg/_/d7wasiu
Seems "safe" not to return it (no extra charge). I'll ask the Samsung employee about this (and record the call in the process) but I think that's what I'm gonna do.

Mwyann said:
On first recall I got the replacement phone shipped with a box to return the old phone. I could've kept both phones if I wanted to. I'm pretty sure they'll do the same thing again but this time I'm really considering keeping it, not returning any phone back to Samsung. When IU asked the Samsung lady I got on the phone, she said that old phones will be IMEI blacklisted anyway, she didn't told me about anything else... but who knows .
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From Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote7/comments/53rngg/_/d7wasiu
Seems "safe" not to return it (no extra charge). I'll ask the Samsung employee about this (and record the call in the process) but I think that's what I'm gonna do.
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it seems unlikely they will let the phones stay in the wild when returning, things will be up in the air due to the amount of people involved in the recall, but I would put money on when the dust settles they will go after the people who failed to return as they will technically have 2 devices while only paying for one.

Belimawr said:
it seems unlikely they will let the phones stay in the wild when returning, things will be up in the air due to the amount of people involved in the recall, but I would put money on when the dust settles they will go after the people who failed to return as they will technically have 2 devices while only paying for one.
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What if it's been "stolen"? Do you think they'll bother looking for proofs that my phone hasn't really been stolen and sue me?

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What if it's been "stolen"? Do you think they'll bother looking for proofs that my phone hasn't really been stolen and sue me?
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The word you're looking for is "fraud"
They're shipped back and forth with tracking, are they not? How would you show it has been stolen?
Also, they wont be suing you, that's something an insurance agency will do.

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What if it's been "stolen"? Do you think they'll bother looking for proofs that my phone hasn't really been stolen and sue me?
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they will ask for a crime report, meaning you would also need to make a false report to the police, or the insurance firm who is likely recovering the devices will come after you for it down the road.

Samsung Galaxy Note 7 cut off by New Zealand mobile networks

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/11/04/samsung-galaxy-note-7-cut-off-by-new-zealand-mobile-networks/ I even do not know how to comment it...

It isn't like one didn't know it was coming. Bound to happen sooner or later.
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This should be illegal
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Before it was just some rep saying it but now its official carriers are going to do this.

Time to backup efs and find a usable imei to change to

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Time to backup efs and find a usable imei to change to
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It's going to come to that. I am sure I can find a suitable old phone to clone.

was obvious something like this was coming, they can't afford to legally force people to return the phones but since the recall is in effect they can legally disable them due to safety concerns. it's the same as I was reading the other day certain UK insurance companies are looking to void the insurance if a Note is anywhere near the incident. they are already banned on pretty much every airline, is it really worth putting up with a year of having to avoid people who don't want the phone in any situation it could cause a problem? the local hospitals in my area in the UK actually have a full ban on the Note as well if you are in the hospital with one you will be escorted by security off the grounds of the hospital and not allowed to return until you have got rid off the phone off site.
so yeah if you want to use a service and they have safety concerns and want to ban something that is entirely up to them, if you want to hang onto something that is potentially dangerous and take a chance that is up to you, but end of the day if it's their house it's their rules.

Belimawr said:
was obvious something like this was coming, they can't afford to legally force people to return the phones but since the recall is in effect they can legally disable them due to safety concerns.
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Yes, but who is the "they" here?
What's in it for Verizon or Vodafone? Samsung can't block IMEI numbers. I'm genuinely puzzled why the industry is so hell bent on getting all of these phones out of circulation. The efforts they are going to are not commensurate with the levels of damage to people and property we have seen. Which incidentally, seem to be declining by the day.
The fact is that a single Note7 is about 100x less dangerous than a single Honda (or any other) motorbike. Does it not strike people as rather weird that all these agencies are trying so hard to get rid of Note7's? It does me.
I would have thought all that was needed was for Samsung to say they there's a problem and that you shouldn't use it and that if you do, it's at your own risk. But they are trying MUCH MUCH harder than this. It's almost like they know something terrible about the phone and are not telling us.

Chippy_boy said:
It's almost like they know something terrible about the phone and are not telling us.
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One of the phone has inside key for immortality hidden by one of samsung's engineer and now they try to find it by recalling all of them. Some people new it beforehand and tried to get to the key by smashing phone which then got fire as a result which gave solid base to recall all units by Samsung.
The rep from Verizon explained it to me. He also said Verizon employed some psychic to find the key by simply touching every note 7 before sent it to Samsung...
He said he hates one of the psychic to the guts because he touches iPhones as well and this is not professional.

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Yes, but who is the "they" here?
What's in it for Verizon or Vodafone? Samsung can't block IMEI numbers. I'm genuinely puzzled why the industry is so hell bent on getting all of these phones out of circulation. The efforts they are going to are not commensurate with the levels of damage to people and property we have seen. Which incidentally, seem to be declining by the day.
The fact is that a single Note7 is about 100x less dangerous than a single Honda (or any other) motorbike. Does it not strike people as rather weird that all these agencies are trying so hard to get rid of Note7's? It does me.
I would have thought all that was needed was for Samsung to say they there's a problem and that you shouldn't use it and that if you do, it's at your own risk. But they are trying MUCH MUCH harder than this. It's almost like they know something terrible about the phone and are not telling us.
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lets say your phone does fail and causes considerable property of physical damage what would you then do? in the majority of cases the person will try to sue Samsung, the carrier or other so these firms are taking every effort to get the point across if you are still holding onto the phone it is entirely on you, if they take every option to stop people using the phone they are 100% free and clear as they have done everything possible to stop the use of a potentially defective device.
now on the other hand looking at all the places and insurance firms trying to discourage use of the phone or banning it, if your phone goes up in say a locker and damages the belonging of several other people would you be willing to cover those damages? because with the amount of action taken to discourage the use of the phone you are at a point where the user is 100% liable and firms will ban it because they know the type of person hanging onto the phone will likely be the type who would try to sue someone rather than admit fault and that is why people are trying to stop the use of the device "in their house" because they know it is likely them who will lose out and have to take legal action to recoup damages.

Belimawr said:
lets say your phone does fail and causes considerable property of physical damage what would you then do? in the majority of cases the person will try to sue Samsung, the carrier or other so these firms are taking every effort to get the point across if you are still holding onto the phone it is entirely on you, if they take every option to stop people using the phone they are 100% free and clear as they have done everything possible to stop the use of a potentially defective device.
now on the other hand looking at all the places and insurance firms trying to discourage use of the phone or banning it, if your phone goes up in say a locker and damages the belonging of several other people would you be willing to cover those damages? because with the amount of action taken to discourage the use of the phone you are at a point where the user is 100% liable and firms will ban it because they know the type of person hanging onto the phone will likely be the type who would try to sue someone rather than admit fault and that is why people are trying to stop the use of the device "in their house" because they know it is likely them who will lose out and have to take legal action to recoup damages.
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Gosh, I hadn't thought of that.

I promise you they will get sued and lose if they do that here in the US. It is not the carrier's job to protect citizens, especially if they have no proof the phone is definitely going to burn.
I believe it is against the law to posses a recalled product in Australia and several European countries. Not so in the United States.

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I promise you they will get sued and lose if they do that here in the US. It is not the carrier's job to protect citizens, especially if they have no proof the phone is definitely going to burn.
I believe it is against the law to posses a recalled product in Australia and several European countries. Not so in the United States.
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Looks like Australia doesn't outlaw recalled products.
http://www.productsafety.gov.au/news/samsung-galaxy-note7
There is no wording to mention it's illegal rather that ACCC "strongly urges"

pinetreehater said:
I promise you they will get sued and lose if they do that here in the US. It is not the carrier's job to protect citizens, especially if they have no proof the phone is definitely going to burn.
I believe it is against the law to posses a recalled product in Australia and several European countries. Not so in the United States.
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I have no idea where in the world it is legal or illegal to possess a recalled product but I agree wholeheartedly that there will definitely be lawsuits in the US if these phones are blacklisted. Without a doubt....
Question. If I see a robbery, rape, fire or an accident or some other public safety concern, should I attempt to dial 911 to assist or should I shrug it off because I am a rogue accident waiting to happen? Should I shudder in fear so much as to avoid calling altogether?
Should I report myself to authorities?.....lol
I'd say no because I am neither illegal or criminal, get it?

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I have no idea where in the world it is legal or illegal to possess a recalled product but I agree wholeheartedly that there will definitely be lawsuits in the US if these phones are blacklisted. Without a doubt....
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Having said that, here's me hoping that New Zealand users start suing which will serve to not give anybody else ideas :laugh:

http://www.droid-life.com/2016/11/0...imit-battery-60-continue-remind-users-recall/
Very soon Samsung will block all service.
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As long as Samsung gets replacement phones/refunds to all they promised, I don't mind the IMEI block so much. Problem is that 19 days ago, they promised me a replacement S7E would come "within 21 days". I contacted them yesterday about how this was going since 21 days is almost up, and...They have run out of S7E stock (black Onyx) and don't know when new stock is coming...
This is Australia though, where they have just sent the 60% thing through and no official IMEI block discussed, yet..
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Verizon in the USA is also considering flagging accounts and suspending service for those of us who have a Note 7. I purchased it outright for $864 and was totally blown away with how nice the phone is. I don't want to return it.
The first batch was recalled due to a failure of the batteries circuitry to stop the charge. Statistic tell me that if an electrical component were to fail (aka infant mortality) then it would occur very early in the like cycle of a device. My device was always left overnight charging (until I learned about the 80% rule and battery life), and would never even get warm to the touch on either the usb-C or wireless charging. I was confident that my chances were slim to have an issue, but I returned it when they got the second batch of phones.
The failure of the second batch is being blamed on internal battery layers that are so close that they short out causing the catastrophic shorting of the battery. Again, no one knows how close is too close for these layers as Samsung never disclosed the details of the design much further. My phone gets charged every 30-36 hours since I got it and I have not had any issues. My second (current) Note 7 is even cooler when charging than the first one and as I never charge about 80%, my risk is even less. (what ever "less than less than 1%" is) I figure if my batteries plates were shorting out, I would have known it by now. So I feel my current phone is also safe.
Samsung or Verizon can not force me to return it. What they can do is exactly what they are: constant texts about the recall and now Verizon has stated (the store rep told me this when I went to inquirer about any changes to the return policy) that after November 25th, they will be suspending service. They told me originally the date was Nov 7th, but it got moved back. So take it with a grain of salt. I sometimes think that the reps don't have a clue. They will give owners no choice if they do this. But the question I ask is do we really own this? Verizon has already returned every penny I paid for the phone back to me. So in a sense I have the phone now for free, and that's not quite right either.
With the S8 four months away and a new Note 8 5-6 months after that (if rumors are true), Samsung in Korea is giving some great deals for those of us who stay loyal. (Korean customers if they stay with Samsung not only get the same $100 (equivalent currency) credit we are getting in the USA, but are also getting an opportunity to upgrade with no penalty to the S8 and Note 8. The new S8 and Note 8 will be sold for 1/2 the list price to these customer! I only hope the USA will get this same offer.
I agree that airlines and businesses have the right to ban the phone, and the liability now rest 99.9% with those of us who keep the phone. We have been warned in many ways. Its a slippery slope. Where does our right to keep it cross the line and endanger someone else? I looks at this like the smoking ban in the USA. Restaurants use to allow smoking in the dining rooms. They then morphed into having a "smoking" and "non-smoking" sections. I cant tell you how many times I would be in the non-smoking section that was right next to a smoking section and still had to breath their second hand smoke. I was glad when all restaurants when smoke free as did most businesses. I happen to be on the other side of the fence on this issue.
I only hope someone here extracts the firmware and kernel and can adapt it to say the S7 or another note device. I'm guessing the new 8 series will be very similar.

Belimawr said:
lets say your phone does fail and causes considerable property of physical damage what would you then do? in the majority of cases the person will try to sue Samsung, the carrier or other so these firms are taking every effort to get the point across if you are still holding onto the phone it is entirely on you, if they take every option to stop people using the phone they are 100% free and clear as they have done everything possible to stop the use of a potentially defective device.
now on the other hand looking at all the places and insurance firms trying to discourage use of the phone or banning it, if your phone goes up in say a locker and damages the belonging of several other people would you be willing to cover those damages? because with the amount of action taken to discourage the use of the phone you are at a point where the user is 100% liable and firms will ban it because they know the type of person hanging onto the phone will likely be the type who would try to sue someone rather than admit fault and that is why people are trying to stop the use of the device "in their house" because they know it is likely them who will lose out and have to take legal action to recoup damages.
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Save your breath... common senses does not apply here. At least to some. Saying anything other than keeping the Note7 will just cause you to be branded as part of the conspirator.

It makes no sense what so ever to keep the phone outside of ego issues. Either "look at me I am a rebel" or "I've got a phone you can't get."
- Alternatives with nearly the same specs are out (Pixel and V20 both outperform the Note 7)
- support is going to be dead, Samsung and 3rd party
- it's not going to receive updates
- it's a hazard, Samsung didn't just kill one of their golden eggs for fun.
- keeping your phone affects more than just you.

ALL Note 7 will be bricked by early 2017. Some earlier.

http://gizmodo.com/verizon-will-brick-the-galaxy-note-7-after-all-1790158297
AND
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/241190-major-us-carriers-agreed-brick-remaining-note-7-devices
I agree with this. I know that the holdouts who haven't replaced their note sevens love their phone but it's irresponsible to keep a phone that could potentially cause harm to innocent bystanders as well and it's really their duty to turn in such a defective device like they've been asked many times. There are several promos and even rumors of a free upgrade so there's no excuse for having a note 7 in your possession and holding out and still using it when it's obviously caused injury and forced planes to land etc etc well now you're going to have to or you'll own a brick. Don't get caught with no service I'd trade in soon...it's happening like it or not. Just saying. Don't shoot the messenger.

Here we go again. Who gives you the right to say what someone should or should not do with their phone? My Samsung washer was recalled and I got no notice about it, even though I have an extended protection plan on it. Lowes never called, Samsung never called, nobody. And these machines actually do EXPLODE!
I have got recalls for my BRAND NEW CAR and yet nobody attempted to disable it. How about exploding airbags? I did not see any companies limiting your fuel tank to 60%.
This whole thing has been a complete mess. The fact that most of these incidents were not even 100% verified and the fact that people actually withdrew their reports speaks volumes. Also, Samsung still has not been able to replicate this issue. I have seen stories about S7 Edges melting and iPhones as well. Fact of the matter is, this was the media taking something which was nothing and creating a firestorm. You do not have to look much further than this election and the crazy amount of FAKE NEWS going around to realize it. My suggestion is to stop posting threads about this and let people make their OWN decisions.

Meh. Doubt it.

faslane said:
http://gizmodo.com/verizon-will-brick-the-galaxy-note-7-after-all-1790158297
I agree with this. I know that the holdouts who haven't replaced their note sevens love their phone but it's irresponsible to keep a phone that could potentially cause harm to innocent bystanders as well and it's really their duty to turn in such a defective device like they've been asked many times. There are several promos and even rumors of a free upgrade so there's no excuse for having a note 7 in your possession and holding out and still using it when it's obviously caused injury and forced planes to land etc etc well now you're going to have to LOL
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Suggest to change the Title! From ALL to VERIZON!!!!!!
I wont come to this thread again.
OP you did not do anyone a favor by posting this. Now go delete your forum account, at very least stop coming to the note 7 section.

Own31 said:
Suggest to change the Title! From ALL to VERIZON!!!!!!
I wont come to this thread again.
OP you did not do anyone a favor by posting this. Now go delete your forum account, at very least stop coming to the note 7 section.
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Did you read the article though? It's NOT just Verizon, ATT, SPRINT AND T-MOBILE are all following suit. Verizon has just announced it officially first. Read the article it's short and clearly lists even when the carriers will join in the fun. Double yet can doubt all they want. I'm simply passing along a VERY credible source and as a warning to any holdouts picketing a N7 still. You're in for a surprise and soon. Fix has been around for years. Don't say you weren't warned. Don't shoot the messenger either. I agree with it but that's besides the point. My opinion ion doesn't matter. This factual story does.

About time this happened!

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Meh. Doubt it.
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Google it, it's all over the web on various tech sites. it IS going to happen....
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/241190-major-us-carriers-agreed-brick-remaining-note-7-devices

Own31 said:
Suggest to change the Title! From ALL to VERIZON!!!!!!
I wont come to this thread again.
OP you did not do anyone a favor by posting this. Now go delete your forum account, at very least stop coming to the note 7 section.
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it's NOT just Verizon and it's all over the Web at every tech site pretty much. Google is your friend.
another very reliable source. Did you N7 peeps think this wouldn't happen? Curious....the minute it landed a plane the N7 was doomed.
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/241190-major-us-carriers-agreed-brick-remaining-note-7-devices

Fourstarzzzz said:
Here we go again. Who gives you the right to say what someone should or should not do with their phone? My Samsung washer was recalled and I got no notice about it, even though I have an extended protection plan on it. Lowes never called, Samsung never called, nobody. And these machines actually do EXPLODE!
I have got recalls for my BRAND NEW CAR and yet nobody attempted to disable it. How about exploding airbags? I did not see any companies limiting your fuel tank to 60%.
This whole thing has been a complete mess. The fact that most of these incidents were not even 100% verified and the fact that people actually withdrew their reports speaks volumes. Also, Samsung still has not been able to replicate this issue. I have seen stories about S7 Edges melting and iPhones as well. Fact of the matter is, this was the media taking something which was nothing and creating a firestorm. You do not have to look much further than this election and the crazy amount of FAKE NEWS going around to realize it. My suggestion is to stop posting threads about this and let people make their OWN decisions.
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Google it, it's all over the web on various tech sites. it IS going to happen....
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/241190-major-us-carriers-agreed-brick-remaining-note-7-devices

Fourstarzzzz said:
Here we go again. Who gives you the right to say what someone should or should not do with their phone? My Samsung washer was recalled and I got no notice about it, even though I have an extended protection plan on it. Lowes never called, Samsung never called, nobody. And these machines actually do EXPLODE!
I have got recalls for my BRAND NEW CAR and yet nobody attempted to disable it. How about exploding airbags? I did not see any companies limiting your fuel tank to 60%.
This whole thing has been a complete mess. The fact that most of these incidents were not even 100% verified and the fact that people actually withdrew their reports speaks volumes. Also, Samsung still has not been able to replicate this issue. I have seen stories about S7 Edges melting and iPhones as well. Fact of the matter is, this was the media taking something which was nothing and creating a firestorm. You do not have to look much further than this election and the crazy amount of FAKE NEWS going around to realize it. My suggestion is to stop posting threads about this and let people make their OWN decisions.
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I definitely see your point but the minute it forced a plane to land I pretty uch knew it was over for the N7
Google it, it's all over the web on various tech sites. it IS going to happen....
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/241190-major-us-carriers-agreed-brick-remaining-note-7-devices

faslane said:
Google it, it's all over the web on various tech sites. it IS going to happen....
https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/241190-major-us-carriers-agreed-brick-remaining-note-7-devices
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I honestly could care less. I have blocked all updates. If they want to start blocking IMEI in the US, I will just spoof it.
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Own31 said:
Suggest to change the Title! From ALL to VERIZON!!!!!!
I wont come to this thread again.
OP you did not do anyone a favor by posting this. Now go delete your forum account, at very least stop coming to the note 7 section.
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I do not get why people insist on making these threads. It is like they are trying to play some sort of role as overseer of returning note 7's. I am holding onto mine. I will guarantee this phones value will skyrocket due to rarity and there are tech nerds out there who will want one for their collection.

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I honestly could care less. I have blocked all updates. If they want to start blocking IMEI in the US, I will just spoof it.
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I do not get why people insist on making these threads. It is like they are trying to play some sort of role as overseer of returning note 7's. I am holding onto mine. I will guarantee this phones value will skyrocket due to rarity and there are tech nerds out there who will want one for their collection.
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Blocking it may or may not work....Good luck...Especially the minute you soft brick it and are screwed because no one supports it. Don't say you weren't warned.
I didn't make this for that reason at all. I simply made it so people who still have them know it's very possible it could be deactivated by their carrier is all. Nothing more. I agree with it personally but certainly don't wish anyone without a phone they paid for but they are a dangerous fire hazard but definitely didn't start it just to rub it in anyone's face whatsoever. I've been around here for many years and a simple read the story a day or so ago and started Googling it and it seems it's going to happen much sooner than I thought. I hope that if peeps find away around not getting the update and it works that their's doesn't explode, or injure anyone sure of course....but I DO feel for them too if they do get forced to upgrade or shall I say switch to another device. I've had every Note there is and the day I went to get a N7 they were sold out so I had to wait a week and then all this started the same week so I simply didn't upgrade from my S7 Edge or I'd be in the same boat.
Fas

Rado_vr6 said:
About time this happened!
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I* agree innocent people have got hurt, it's not cool to hold onto something that can injure and burn possibly cause deaths...when there's a nationwide hell, worldwide pretty much recall on something I feel it's the responsible thing to do and follow the methods of switching devices but some don't feel that way so they in turn decide to take the chance but that chance could very possible injure someone else too like say if one exploded and caught something on fire that hurt innocent people which may have happened already but I think it's been more personal injuries as of yet, leg burn from it being in pocket etc.
And I'm, just posting what I read, it's not to rub in anyone's face. Anyone who knows me from XDA knows I'm not that type of person whatsoever. This is simply to let people know that a change is coming that will be forced on them if they have a Note 7 still....they can take that for what they want.
Fas

What I would like to know is, if WIFI is disabled, and I do not have a SIM card in it, is Samsung/T-Mobile (or whoever is doing it) still able to brick my phone? The reason I ask is, I already moved on to the S7 Edge, but like to keep the Note 7 for other stuff, that does not require internet access of any sort.
Thanks,
G

If anyone has a note 7 they want to sell PM me. I'll gladly clone my imei over from my S7.

And what is to stop someone from simply root blocking this update exactly?

Can someone please answer my question?!
Thanks.

neavissa said:
What I would like to know is, if WIFI is disabled, and I do not have a SIM card in it, is Samsung/T-Mobile (or whoever is doing it) still able to brick my phone? The reason I ask is, I already moved on to the S7 Edge, but like to keep the Note 7 for other stuff, that does not require internet access of any sort.
Thanks,
G
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No, since your phone is disconnected network and internet.

faslane said:
I* agree innocent people have got hurt, it's not cool to hold onto something that can injure and burn possibly cause deaths...when there's a nationwide hell, worldwide pretty much recall on something I feel it's the responsible thing to do and follow the methods of switching devices but some don't feel that way so they in turn decide to take the chance but that chance could very possible injure someone else too like say if one exploded and caught something on fire that hurt innocent people which may have happened already but I think it's been more personal injuries as of yet, leg burn from it being in pocket etc.
And I'm, just posting what I read, it's not to rub in anyone's face. Anyone who knows me from XDA knows I'm not that type of person whatsoever. This is simply to let people know that a change is coming that will be forced on them if they have a Note 7 still....they can take that for what they want.
Fas
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I honestly hope that samsung already sent the update to all of those devices and the update will activate itself on some random date and brick their devices.
Seriously people, samsung gave You all a chance to get a new device + extra money, and You said no?
This is how it looks like:
Samsung: hey! Here, have a brand new s7 edge + free money!
You: Nope. I'll keep my device and eventually one day it will explode and I'll burn to death while sleeping .
I'm a note lover too. And if I had to return my device I wouldn't do it straight away either. But once they completely recall those phones and then start to DISABLE them. Then it's turn to take Your device back to samsung and change to a different device, while You still can(hopefully) do it for free instead of paying for a new one later.
What's even worse? No updates. No Nougat. S8 Edge will come soon. And Note 7 will become a old not so powerful anymore device.
And don't try to sell it to someone.
I saw one guy trying to sell his Note 7 and claiming that this one won't explode. Guess what. After contacting Samsung, the next day his account was gone(probably disabled temporarily). He wanted to sell it for 2x the price.
neavissa said:
What I would like to know is, if WIFI is disabled, and I do not have a SIM card in it, is Samsung/T-Mobile (or whoever is doing it) still able to brick my phone? The reason I ask is, I already moved on to the S7 Edge, but like to keep the Note 7 for other stuff, that does not require internet access of any sort.
Thanks,
G
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This way probably no. But You'll end up with a Samsung IPod.
solrazr said:
If anyone has a note 7 they want to sell PM me. I'll gladly clone my imei over from my S7.
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Not worth it. You'll end up with a disabled device one day anyway. And even if You will somehow disable the updates (the internal ones that come out of nowhere(not ota)) then it's still not worth it. S8 will come out soon and beat Note 7 + Nougat.
And to all people who will keep their devices no matter what.
I guess it's fine. If they didn't explode so far they most likely won't explode anyway. Tbh it is kinda mean to disable recalled devices in a such way. Like just taking away updates and pushing annoying notifications is enough. And Samsung knows that if they didn't explode till now they won't explode.
So F You Samsung. But other than that think about that it still could explode in a elevator and kill You and other people.
And no guys. It's not a WWII historical item to keep it and show it to Your grandsons later. It's just a phone.

*Never mind, not worth the debate*

Samsung UK not giving up!

I got a notification on Saturday from Samsung with said that on Jan 31st they are issuing another update which will prevent battery charging completely and disable mobile network access.
This is GREAT news, because it means there can be ZERO question of whether I'd be able to get a refund or not when I take my Note7 back when the S8 comes out (or whatever else I decide to change it to.)
Thanks Samsung!
(Of course the update won't affect me, so I'll carry on using my Note7 until then.)

This had also crossed my mind, if one owns Note7 until S8 Note8 is released, will samsung be willing to replace Note7 (a flagship device) for the next best thing equivalent at the time S8 Note8 is launched?
Another question also crossed my mind, regardless if I have everything that came with the phone and I am lawful owner of the phone but have no proof of purchase, will smasung still be willing to replace it for me or thats just a pipe-dream?
To my understanding, samsung cannot refuse to replace Note7 to anything but the best thing available at the time, so when note8 S8 is out etc, they shouldnt be offering S7 as a replacement at the time, what do you think?
Also, another thought (bare with me here) , samsung had 96% of 3million devices sold returned, of which 220000 were taken under very intense testing and investigations to reproduce faults and what not, so look at this now, once all is now done and clear to public, they have over 2.5 million note7 in stock that require a new safe battery replacement issue, reboxing and should sell worldwide or in some limited regions for a discounted price as a safe refurbs (some time soon I guess), they wouldnt just burry all that gold worth pile of Note7's now , would they?
I almost sense a new "Note7S" coming out some time very soon, carrying "S" on the back as being SAFE with probably reworked same capacity safe battery or with some 3000mAh battery and free wireless charging backpack battery pack case that samsung was selling for note7 phones.
Your thoughts?

Chippy_boy said:
I got a notification on Saturday from Samsung with said that on Jan 31st they are issuing another update which will prevent battery charging completely and disable mobile network access.
This is GREAT news, because it means there can be ZERO question of whether I'd be able to get a refund or not when I take my Note7 back when the S8 comes out (or whatever else I decide to change it to.)
Thanks Samsung!
(Of course the update won't affect me, so I'll carry on using my Note7 until then.)
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Hi how are you going to manage that this 31st January will not affect you? Please share as I still have note 7.
M.

xxxMJTxxx said:
Hi how are you going to manage that this 31st January will not affect you? Please share as I still have note 7.
M.
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I've got all the updates blocked mate. Have a search on this forum and you'll find plenty of ways to do that, depending on what updates your phone has had already.

Ok
It had 60 percent battery cap update forced to me overnight last year but I flashed that with older firmware so it went back to 100 percent, I also installed old 6.3 package disabler and blocked all programs mentioned on forum.
Is there anything else would you advice to do additionally?
M.
Thanks

xxxMJTxxx said:
Ok
It had 60 percent battery cap update forced to me overnight last year but I flashed that with older firmware so it went back to 100 percent, I also installed old 6.3 package disabler and blocked all programs mentioned on forum.
Is there anything else would you advice to do additionally?
M.
Thanks
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I'm no expert mate, but I think you are good to go. You could try No Root Firewall as well I guess, but I haven't bothered. I have decided not to take ANY Samsung updates though - even for things like Smart Switch and Samsung Health etc - just in case the crafty barstards decide to hide something nasty in their apps.
They've been utter sheets about this whole thing. They have TOTALLY forgotten that they DO NOT own MY phone! It is MINE, not THEIRS!

Chippy_boy said:
I'm no expert mate, but I think you are good to go. You could try No Root Firewall as well I guess, but I haven't bothered. I have decided not to take ANY Samsung updates though - even for things like Smart Switch and Samsung Health etc - just in case the crafty barstards decide to hide something nasty in their apps.
They've been utter sheets about this whole thing. They have TOTALLY forgotten that they DO NOT own MY phone! It is MINE, not THEIRS!
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Ha Ha I thought so!
I have no root firewall but not sure how to set it up being honest
I had Samsung Billing pushed to me few days ago but for some reason I cannot find it under applications in my mobile so I hope Evil Sam is not hidden there waiting to reactivate.
So really we will see after 31st what is going to happen, I really would hate to go back to Note 3 I still have, however it was also good mobile for few years back ago.
How many people still are using/own N7 in UK you reckon?
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How many people still are using/own N7 in UK you reckon?
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Honestly, I have no clue, but I guess it must be quite a few. They wouldn't be going to the trouble of writing software updates for just a handful of phones would they!
I wonder why on earth they didn't actually stop to think WHY people are not returning their phones? For some clever people, they have behaved like they have the brains of goldfish.

Chippy_boy said:
Honestly, I have no clue, but I guess it must be quite a few. They wouldn't be going to the trouble of writing software updates for just a handful of phones would they!
I wonder why on earth they didn't actually stop to think WHY people are not returning their phones? For some clever people, they have behaved like they have the brains of goldfish.
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the same update is world wide, altering it for different countries is a minor point as the majority of the changes comes in the form of the bands and network support, if they are removing all network support all they need is something that works on the exynos hardware, also the UK phones are the international phones so they are actually used across a load of countries so it is probably a large portion of the world covered by the same update as the UK.
also as I said there is little need for the networks to do their modifications since they all come in the form of network support that has been removed in this update.

No matter what it's going to be a nightmare. I wouldn't expect it to be as simple as walking into your carrier's store and swapping out for s8 - even though I do remember someone over at Samsung saying there was going to be a discount on "the next big thing". I'm in San Jose so Im going to HQ with mine, f em.

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I wonder why on earth they didn't actually stop to think WHY people are not returning their phones?
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They're probably paranoid about being sued on the off chance someone else's phone blows up. It would be bad press if it happens again, probably followed by ignorant people saying that Samsung should have tried harder to stop it, etc etc, because some people have probably missed the whole thing till now and haven't noticed anything. Plus, Samsung wants to be able to say 100% recalled and returned.
FYI I don't own this device, just trying to answer this question. Maybe all of you who have it should put "Proud owner of the Note 7. Take that Samsung" or something in your sigs lol. It would be kinda funny to see.
Sent from my Amazon Fire using XDA Labs

in my country, Mexico, there have not been, any sort of batt capping updates, or any threatening messages about anything! as no burning reports here, the consumer bureau has not issued any order or authorization on the matter, here would be unlawful to capp or restrict the use of a legally owned device, so, all very cool over here

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Samsung can do anything they want. If you think whatever that is violates a law or your rights as a consumer its up to you and/or whatever governmental agency is involved to get them to do something different. That could take months. Many months. In the meantime you'll be stuck living with whatever decision they make - whether it's "legal" or not. Fighting multi-billion dollar conglomerates isn't for the feint of heart.
Sadly there are people who've tried to do the right thing that are stuck in Samsung's matrix and no law or governmental agency has rescued them. I can't imagine said agency's will feel a lot of sympathy for people who've held on to a phone declared potentially dangerous by its manufacturer for the length of time being discussed here. "I kept my potentially dangerous phone because I didn't like any of the alternatives" or "I was waiting for the Galaxy S8 to come out" seem like pretty self-serving reasons not to take advantage of all the remedies (including a full refund) Samsung provided. This isn't black and white and certainly not a typical "fit for purpose" issue.

BarryH_GEG said:
Samsung can do anything they want. If you think whatever that is violates a law or your rights as a consumer its up to you and/or whatever governmental agency is involved to get them to do something different. That could take months. Many months. In the meantime you'll be stuck living with whatever decision they make - whether it's "legal" or not. Fighting multi-billion dollar conglomerates isn't for the feint of heart.
Sadly there are people who've tried to do the right thing that are stuck in Samsung's matrix and no law or governmental agency has rescued them. I can't imagine said agency's will feel a lot of sympathy for people who've held on to a phone declared potentially dangerous by its manufacturer for the length of time being discussed here. "I kept my potentially dangerous phone because I didn't like any of the alternatives" or "I was waiting for the Galaxy S8 to come out" seem like pretty self-serving reasons not to take advantage of all the remedies (including a full refund) Samsung provided. This isn't black and white and certainly not a typical "fit for purpose" issue.
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All doesnt matter and all goes against the law, just risk of hazard makes them liable indefinitely until its back at their possession and no harm caused during the time.
Im no fain hearted and I dont own 7 figure bank account but I know its not a rocket science to bring giant companies such as apple or samsung to their knees, again, its not for faint hearted, I was talking from a legal stand point.
Darkness and high-cliff edge walking heights are usually appearing dangerous things for most, until they're certain and know there is nothing dangerous/hazardous in the dark and walking the cliff edge not without protections and precautions, metaphorically speaking.
Take a case where mobile phone gets on fire and one or many people suffers fatal consequences, days, months or even years from now, and investigators dig up samsung note7, who they gonna blame? Who has the case against who? Looking from even early state all cards are against samsung where there disaster happens or not samsung should be waist deep to do whatever necessary to sort their clients out. And yes they can try to attempt "write their own laws" warning consumers, threatening with return closing deadlines, refusing to take back dangerous devices back in, blocking devices, etc its their cards their game against everyone, not that they are more than the majority, I call it one against all and no matter how much money they are worth, it can take just few big cases and they will soon realize what wrong turn things can take, not that they would be willing to take such risks when and if case is brought to the round table.
Heck, even a 3 year ago my 10+ year Honda got a safety recall letter warning about potentially defective airbag systems and all was replaced at surprisingly my convenience cost free, even the car was bought second hand and I am probably 3rd or 4th owner of that vehicle, auto manufacturers know about how this game be played out i suppose, has been in this game before or seen it happen, consequences are clear to them if potential event take place, they would not only put someone deep in dirt, they would be there themselves as a consequence, so they took no risks, and I was pleasantly surprised at the same too how much forthcoming they were to sort this out, and note - this is 10+ year old product, not much different case to the one were talking about here, and I believe if they went this far with thing such as this, how much further they would have taken things if they would have found out that these vehicle models would have been a hazardous risk of fire and explosion while driving, parked at house garage etc? Go beat this statement

BarryH_GEG said:
Samsung can do anything they want. If you think whatever that is violates a law or your rights as a consumer its up to you and/or whatever governmental agency is involved to get them to do something different. That could take months. Many months. In the meantime you'll be stuck living with whatever decision they make - whether it's "legal" or not. Fighting multi-billion dollar conglomerates isn't for the feint of heart.
Sadly there are people who've tried to do the right thing that are stuck in Samsung's matrix and no law or governmental agency has rescued them. I can't imagine said agency's will feel a lot of sympathy for people who've held on to a phone declared potentially dangerous by its manufacturer for the length of time being discussed here. "I kept my potentially dangerous phone because I didn't like any of the alternatives" or "I was waiting for the Galaxy S8 to come out" seem like pretty self-serving reasons not to take advantage of all the remedies (including a full refund) Samsung provided. This isn't black and white and certainly not a typical "fit for purpose" issue.
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I reckon you work for Samsung. You must do, or you would have quit your tiresome campaign by now.
And as for "Samsung can do what they like", well let's see how successful they are on Tuesday shall we?
I'll post my update from my unrooted Note7 on Wednesday.

Chippy_boy said:
I reckon you work for Samsung. You must do, or you would have quit your tiresome campaign by now.
And as for "Samsung can do what they like", well let's see how successful they are on Tuesday shall we?
I'll post my update from my unrooted Note7 on Wednesday.
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I've unrooted Note7 also, dont want to touch any mods yet until its definitely necessary

Mr.Ultimate said:
Im no fain hearted and I dont own 7 figure bank account but I know its not a rocket science to bring giant companies such as apple or samsung to their knees
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Read this. The poor sod has been fighting Samsung since 2015 over his SGS4. At the end of the day you have to put a value on your time. The amount of time you'd have to spend even with legal assistance is probably worth more than what you spent on your Note7. The time some here have spent fighting the fighting noose is probably worth half the cost of their phone.
I'm all for principle but there's also the law of diminishing returns. Life's too short to intentionally seek out battles. At least for me. If I'm going to invest heap loads of my time that could be spent doing other more entertaining and productive things it wouldn't be over a mobile phone. It would be for something far more noble.
https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/20/samsung-cant-use-in-box-warranty-to-kill-galaxy-s4-lawsuit/

While I'd love to see Samsung getting screwed right back, I can't imagine there won't be a final return date of some sort and them actually exchanging the phone for the new models. They just sound too cheap for that

BarryH_GEG said:
Read this. The poor sod has been fighting Samsung since 2015 over his SGS4. At the end of the day you have to put a value on your time. The amount of time you'd have to spend even with legal assistance is probably worth more than what you spent on your Note7. The time some here have spent fighting the fighting noose is probably worth half the cost of their phone.
I'm all for principle but there's also the law of diminishing returns. Life's too short to intentionally seek out battles. At least for me. If I'm going to invest heap loads of my time that could be spent doing other more entertaining and productive things it wouldn't be over a mobile phone. It would be for something far more noble.
https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/20/samsung-cant-use-in-box-warranty-to-kill-galaxy-s4-lawsuit/
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Im not going to talk much, but that's not even serious case and analogy is just wrong. Compare this - buying matchbox to light the fire place at home but these matchboxes keep exploding and potentially setting itself on fire on random times (case #1) vs. match box that doesnt have 100% of the content or doesnt light up/doesnt burn every time you strike it (case #2).
Yes, its no brainer about law diminishing returns, if you dont have serious case and intelligent sought trough evidence, plan put together that will be serving to the finish line, and all , dreamland ego and being naive left behind - there is no chance to expect something good coming out of it.
We're talking about life threatening hazardous product here.
Have a great day.

BarryH_GEG said:
Read this. The poor sod has been fighting Samsung since 2015 over his SGS4. At the end of the day you have to put a value on your time. The amount of time you'd have to spend even with legal assistance is probably worth more than what you spent on your Note7. The time some here have spent fighting the fighting noose is probably worth half the cost of their phone.
I'm all for principle but there's also the law of diminishing returns. Life's too short to intentionally seek out battles. At least for me. If I'm going to invest heap loads of my time that could be spent doing other more entertaining and productive things it wouldn't be over a mobile phone. It would be for something far more noble.
https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/20/samsung-cant-use-in-box-warranty-to-kill-galaxy-s4-lawsuit/
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Barry, my plan is to take my Note7 back to Samsung when I am ready (and not before) and ask for my money back, which I am very sure they will agree to, since they are obviously so very keen to get it back.
If in the monumentally unlikely event they say, "no, we'd like you to keep it please" (you're not REALLY suggesting that are you???!?) then I can file a small claim online in 20 minutes. It's a total no-brainer.
Sorry to disappoint you.