Best Note 7 alternative - Note 7 Questions & Answers

With the Note 7 dead in the water ([emoji22]), we now need to find a good replacement. I honestly don't think any phone currently competes with the Note but what are you guys thinking? I'm personally on Verizon so I want to find something that will work on vzw. From what I've seen so far the LG V20 and the Pixel are the best choices. I'm personally not crazy impressed with the Pixel though. What are your guys thoughts?

I am contemplating on keeping the phone and risk using it. If this can last me two years, I'd be happy.
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I love the phone but I can't keep it. They will drop all support and they just banned it from the Gear VR. Such a bad situation.
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Keeping it really is not an option for me...sad day. I love this phone. [emoji29]
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I wouldn't keep the phone, support from Samsung and 3rd party will be cut off and I doubt you'll see much development here on it either.
Pixel is completely overpriced and with no SD card it makes the price even more unacceptable to me.
The only phone that looks good at this point is the LG V20 with SD card support and removable battery.
However as far as a true replacement goes there really isn't an alternative. LG does have a stylus phone but spec wise it's outdated.
Let's just hope Samsung figures this thing out and restarts production under a new model 7.5 or 8.
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I would think Google would know better than to remove the SD card, it hurt Samsung when they did it. Really it makes no sense.
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LG V20 impressive Quad-DAC should be the choice for Audiophyles, but its screen is so-so and isn't water-resistant, a Dual Sim Version with an spare battery should be ideal for Frequent flyers.
Tied with LG V20 are S7-S7edge EXYNOS while a quite "old" this still has the best specifications of any other Android nowadays: including waterproof and performance (even better than SD821) and should have Android 7 soon, you should choose among this or the V20 if you want the best
Pixel XL is the Next option if you are a Native English spoken, and its due Google Assistant (only support English, later Hindi, much later german and Spanish), otherwise its an so-so flagship a little bit overpriced.

i will stand by samy....so S7 edge

V20 and pixel. But considering this is google's first phone... It might end up another note 7.. Maybe LG is the safer choice

I went to get s7e today and of course it's sold out for 50miles in all directions from me. This is getting worse and worse. I also heard that Apple is hitting Sammy with another $400 copying suit. At this point I hope they get steamrolled.. ?

I bought a LG G5 for less then half the cost of the note 7 and will use that awhile until the new phones come out and see if there are any issues.
Then next year I'll probably buy the S8+ (im guaranteeing the Note name is dead)
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Wonder how the OGP selling

I think this is a great phone but I wonder how the sales are going so far? I hope LG isn't about to do like dell did with the streak. No advertising, No promotion, just kinda let it be a silent option. It would be a shame this really could be a best seller if they did like Samsung and let people know about it.
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nthknd said:
I think this is a great phone but I wonder how the sales are going so far? I hope LG isn't about to do like dell did with the streak. No advertising, No promotion, just kinda let it be a silent option. It would be a shame this really could be a best seller if they did like Samsung and let people know about it.
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yeah...but sammy is #-1 in mobile phone....lg is a kind of little brother compare to sammy...less publicity....slow invalidity at first for newest device....going to lg for the first time with "OGP"....still not received yet!! have a galaxy note and love it....the way a see it for lg developement is....less support from developper...of course less software (like mobile odin) but with cwm it can do the job when come time to flashing rom.... its about the same kind of product idealogy...since they"re both korean compagny...
of course the g pro is far superior then the galaxy note2...have take the bet....time will tell if i"ll buy another lg or comeback to sammy???
selling are not too bad...http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/01/lg-celebrates-500k-optimus-g-pro-sales-in-its-home-country/...at the april first...500.000 device been sold.....but again compare to the galaxy note/note 2 these number are small....
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yeah...but sammy is #-1 in mobile phone....lg is a kind of little brother compare to sammy...less publicity....slow invalidity at first for newest device....going to lg for the first time with "OGP"....still not received yet!! have a galaxy note and love it....the way a see it for lg developement is....less support from developper...of course less software (like mobile odin) but with cwm it can do the job when come time to flashing rom.... its about the same kind of product idealogy...since they"re both korean compagny...
of course the g pro is far superior then the galaxy note2...have take the bet....time will tell if i"ll buy another lg or comeback to sammy???
selling are not too bad...http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/01/lg-celebrates-500k-optimus-g-pro-sales-in-its-home-country/...at the april first...500.000 device been sold.....but again compare to the galaxy note/note 2 these number are small....
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Yep I have to agree. If LG drops the ball then this will be my last LG phone. Why make a great product then not tell the world about it? That's a great way to fail.
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im about to switch to this phone from an LG Revolution which never took off... After playing with the Gpro and a note 2 side by side I definitely have settled on this device! I sincerely hope however support for it is better from LG then for the Revolution. My bet is it certainly will be since it is their top of the line device.
I've never seen a commercial from LG for their smartphones. Have seen commercials from carriers promoting the devices,but can't remember one from the manufacturer. Compare that to the Samsung commercials.
They still make nice phones. Hopefully we get an unlocked bootloader and some interesting development.
Given we can now root, freeze apps/debloat, and get things a la the qslide notifications fix, we're doing ok. You can use launchers and other available apps,etc to get some of the other changes you might want.
at&t told me its selling very well. they only had 1 left at the store i bought mine. i think once we get development it will increase to. the phone is much better than any other phone out there.
First time LG buyer here and I am really impressed with this phone. Been with apple since 08
This phone has gotten me curious. It has my dream specs for a phone. Too bad its not available outside the US.
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Availability is the key to this question. ATT only in the US was a stupid decision, IMHO, and so far I've only heard of Korea and India. One of the reviews i saw said that the ogpro is not considered a flagship phone by LG. Maybe that's why they're not super hyping it a la GS3 and GS4...
My first LG was the Nexus 4 and I loved the device. Build quality was awesome. The dev community was also the best. I went to this device because I liked the specs compared to my note2 I had. My wife now has it. But im very very very disapointed with no ROMS yet. NO Unlocked bootloader. S4 and HTC already have them.
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Availability is the key to this question. ATT only in the US was a stupid decision, IMHO, and so far I've only heard of Korea and India. One of the reviews i saw said that the ogpro is not considered a flagship phone by LG. Maybe that's why they're not super hyping it a la GS3 and GS4...
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I considered a GS4 or HTC ONE. Reason I said NO on the HTC ONE was screen size. I would of just kept my Nexus 4. Reason I said NO on the S4 was because they had the GPro in-stock.
I see LG ads for this phones on the sites I go to. And I've also seen AT&T ads for it as well on random sites. They are classing it against the Note 2 in the ads.
I just got mine today and I am already in love with this phone. I did notice some lag when I played beach buggy but then I realized I turned on the cpu control feature and once I switched it off everything was good to go.
I love the phone too. It plays shadowgun dead zone better than the one or the s4. I'm speaking from experience. Its surprising considering the screen size.
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I had to take my first one in to exchange it because of a dead pixel. The AT&T people didn't even realize they had it. It should have come out before the s4 or the One to gain any traction.
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I love this phone. Left apple for sg3, and this is my first LG phone. Its runs buttery smooth and is as fast as like greased lightning. So far so good!
they probably arnt selling well in the US because LG isnt really concentrating on the us market, thus only 1 carrier for the lgogpro. If anything probably the optimus g2 will have 3-4 carriers this fall
Ya, the Optimus G and the G2 coming later this year are the flagship models. G2 will supposedly use the Snapdragon 800, but then there's this rumor...
http://bgr.com/2013/05/07/sprint-optimus-g-pro-release-date/
Is this a OGPro, slightly redesigned to get around exclusivity? G2? Next Nexus?
Dear LG users, what do you think about the futur OGP developpement???
I'm thinking about switching my DesireZ for this optimus g pro. One of the most complete phone on the market.
But, I'm not so sure about the developpement . Other LG devices aren't the most supported...
Indications are that Sprint is going to get one this quarter LS980 so if that is true then we should hopefully see more accessories come along since it will be on (2) US carriers.
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I think this is a great phone but I wonder how the sales are going so far? I hope LG isn't about to do like dell did with the streak. No advertising, No promotion, just kinda let it be a silent option. It would be a shame this really could be a best seller if they did like Samsung and let people know about it.
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I agree completely. If LG would put a little marketing behind their phones I'm sure they'd sell a little better and thereby get more support from the dev community.
I am coming from a Note 2 and love this phone though I am about to die with not being able to apply a bunch of ROM. (I am really hoping for an advanced kernel to really stretch out the battery life.
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I'll add another voice to those concerned about the locked bootloader, and more generally, custom development. If there were a working version of Paranoid 3.15 on the OGP, I'd very quickly be $550 less wealthy.
I just bought this phone... loving it so far even in stock form! Just so powerful ans smooth.
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Is it worth buying?

I have an iPhone 5 I'm using as an Ipod and was looking to sell it. Was looking at tablets and was thinking nexus 7 2013, LG gpad 8.3 and the Samsung galaxy note 8.0. I liked the other one since they have. Bigger screens but their development is at a minimum while the nexus has a lot of roms and support. Is the hardware subpar as some would suggest? Is wifi connection a problem over time? Would just like to know what's really happening before I make my purchase. Thanks appreciate all input.
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I have an iPhone 5 I'm using as an Ipod and was looking to sell it. Was looking at tablets and was thinking nexus 7 2013, LG gpad 8.3 and the Samsung galaxy note 8.0. I liked the other one since they have. Bigger screens but their development is at a minimum while the nexus has a lot of roms and support. Is the hardware subpar as some would suggest? Is wifi connection a problem over time? Would just like to know what's really happening before I make my purchase. Thanks appreciate all input.
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Ive had mine for a week and loving it.
Coming from a 1st gen Kindle fire, this is much better. Kindle I would have to turn wifi off if not actively using it.
Here, I'm actually leaving wifi on 24/7 and also not even plugging it in at night.
Left it idling at work all day, lost about 9% battery. Went to sleep, woke up, 2% gone.
Actually just checked stats, 81%, Not charging
1d 6h 2m on battery. To me, thats good.
I even watched a whole 50min tv show and lost I think 2%.
I'm liking it. Only time I seen the battery go nuts and the device get hot was when I was with Google Earth.
So far no screen problems. I sometimes feel I had a tap on keyboard no detect, but when I tested in a multi touch tester, everything looks fine.
Plus I got mine on sale at staples, so $150, cant go wrong.
I'm wondering about the touch issues as well. Maybe I should just buy one at a big store so i can return it if I have any problems.
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I'm wondering about the touch issues as well. Maybe I should just buy one at a big store so i can return it if I have any problems.
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Touch issues is truly a hit-or-miss. Your device might have issues, as well as it might not. I had 2 devices (16gb which I returned for 32gb) which both had very mild touchscreen issues.
Get it! The display is just awesome (I've had no prob's) - ^ man $150 is a scream'n deal!
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Get it! The display is just awesome (I've had no prob's) - ^ man $150 is a scream'n deal!
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Lucked out. staples $229, microcenter price match to 199, then a 2day $50 off coupon.
They had no 32gb in stock. When I went to another that had it, I was too stressed to deal with an exchange.
Microcenter matched the 32 to 229, so with 50 off coupon could have been had for 179.
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Get it! The display is just awesome (I've had no prob's) - ^ man $150 is a scream'n deal!
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I am also planning to buy one. Is there any batch which has no problems? I use HTC one x and few had hardware WiFi problems. So august batch was perfect as HTC admitted the issue which i bought. Since with my budget this is the best tab I am kind of leaned towards it. But I can't have one which has any problem coz In my country there is no replacement warranty for nexus devices. Is there any way to check the batch number to get a perfect device?
what kind of support does Google give for devices with multi-touch issues. I really dont want to have to deal with that.
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what kind of support does Google give for devices with multi-touch issues. I really dont want to have to deal with that.
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Other than sending it back on your own dime? None.
Google doesn't have a physical store like Apple, which I sorely missed. Not to mention the almost ZERO support from Google on any issue, judging by the posting in Google product forum. I.e. multi touch, Wi-Fi, Google Now, etc.
This is why forum like XDA exist.
Disclaimer: I used to own Apple products, but has moved completely to Android because I like cracked apps.. sorry.. Customization.
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Other than sending it back on your own dime? None.
Google doesn't have a physical store like Apple, which I sorely missed. Not to mention the almost ZERO support from Google on any issue, judging by the posting in Google product forum. I.e. multi touch, Wi-Fi, Google Now, etc.
This is why forum like XDA exist.
Disclaimer: I used to own Apple products, but has moved completely to Android because I like cracked apps.. sorry.. Customization.
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Sorry if I am hijacking this thread to ask my questions here but do you feel the tablet functions lag-free, choppy and fault-free even without having to root the device? I mean, all I need the tablet to do is to function without any faults or lag, which I would appreciate I could accomplish without having to risk rooting the device which itself has caused issues for many.
Secondly, plenty seemingly report that updating the OS poses more and more problems for them so would you suggest sticking to the same OS that the tablet runs out of the box instead of updating it anytime?
Finally, there's no Google or Apple store in the country where I reside. Would you suggest buying this or Apple iPad (3rd Generation) keeping in view the chances of hardware/software failures of the two tablets. If there are any other suggestions you might wanna make, please go ahead.
Thanks in advance.
Yeah this tablet has to many problems in my opinion. All these issues and Amazon reviews list so many problems or others report that after a while everything starts breaking down. Just because it's cheap doesn't mean quality control and build quality should be so bad. I'm going to go with LG gpad 8.3. Rock solid build and pretty great performance and features. Was $350 but this weekend price dropped to about $270. Yes you may not get those updates fast or even ever but it seems like updates are hurting the nexus 7 anyway from all the reports i read. Google is really dropping the ball.
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Other than sending it back on your own dime? None.
Google doesn't have a physical store like Apple, which I sorely missed. Not to mention the almost ZERO support from Google on any issue, judging by the posting in Google product forum. I.e. multi touch, Wi-Fi, Google Now, etc.
This is why forum like XDA exist.
Disclaimer: I used to own Apple products, but has moved completely to Android because I like cracked apps.. sorry.. Customization.
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This is horrible Google should support their product
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Yeah this tablet has to many problems in my opinion. All these issues and Amazon reviews list so many problems or others report that after a while everything starts breaking down. Just because it's cheap doesn't mean quality control and build quality should be so bad. I'm going to go with LG gpad 8.3. Rock solid build and pretty great performance and features. Was $350 but this weekend price dropped to about $270. Yes you may not get those updates fast or even ever but it seems like updates are hurting the nexus 7 anyway from all the reports i read. Google is really dropping the ball.
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I suppose you are right, especially considering there are so many genuine issues riding the device and there is no support in my country form Google AT ALL. Thanks so much for introducing me to the LG G Pad 8.3; I had no knowledge of that one. Seems nice but I was beginning to consider SONY Xperia Z Tab but after some research, I discovered that that tab had issues of its own including genuine lag on the tablet.
I guess LG G Pad 8.3 is my best bet right now. Can you recommend some place that ships internationally and is actually reliable and offers the best price on the LG G Pad 8.3 INCLUDING where you might be getting it from? I did stumble upon newegg's latest offering here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834325004
I was wondering if you'd recommend this or someplace else.
I would be glad to hear from you soon.
Thanks.
LG G PAd is a great compared to Nexus 7 (2013) and its ISsues
WranglerHuss said:
I suppose you are right, especially considering there are so many genuine issues riding the device and there is no support in my country form Google AT ALL. Thanks so much for introducing me to the LG G Pad 8.3; I had no knowledge of that one. Seems nice but I was beginning to consider SONY Xperia Z Tab but after some research, I discovered that that tab had issues of its own including genuine lag on the tablet.
I guess LG G Pad 8.3 is my best bet right now. Can you recommend some place that ships internationally and is actually reliable and offers the best price on the LG G Pad 8.3 INCLUDING where you might be getting it from? I did stumble upon newegg's latest offering here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834325004
I was wondering if you'd recommend this or someplace else.
I would be glad to hear from you soon.
Thanks.
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It's really sad what Google is doing to their products. They need to drop ASUS because their quality is really low. Yeah the LG G Pad is looking really good to me right now. Sorry I live in the US so I don't know much about international Shipping. Currently New egg has the best deals on this tablet so you can shop around on their. Haven't seen any better deals Yet. Let me know how tit works for you. And yes I also discovered about the G Pad browsing the forums. Before I purchase a device I do extensive research On it. Many have complained about the nexus 7 2013's quality and hardware problems and in Comparison LG has very little. In fact I believe its because no ones knows abut the LG Tab yet so its not widely Known. Its a really good deal in my honest opinion. Great hardware and software. I compared to the Note 8.0 and Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 and 7.0 but the Samsung's seems really inferior at this point. Low screen density and Slow processors. I guess to each his own however, some people just like touch wiz. In Fact I have a Note 2 and in Terms of phones i prefer Samsung but their tablets or at last the small ones are really lagging behind right now.

I tried to like it

When I bought my g4 I was torn between the g4 and the nexus 6.
I chose the g4 based on how much I liked my g3 and after having this g4 for 6 weeks I just cannot take these touch screen issues and a few other minor issues. Since the nexus 6 was on sale at Amazon I jumped on it.
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bigmatt503 said:
When I bought my g4 I was torn between the g4 and the nexus 6.
I chose the g4 based on how much I liked my g3 and after having this g4 for 6 weeks I just cannot take these touch screen issues and a few other minor issues. Since the nexus 6 was on sale at Amazon I jumped on it.
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I'm sorry you bought into an old phone weeks before the new one is due to be announced.
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When I bought my g4 I was torn between the g4 and the nexus 6.
I chose the g4 based on how much I liked my g3 and after having this g4 for 6 weeks I just cannot take these touch screen issues and a few other minor issues. Since the nexus 6 was on sale at Amazon I jumped on it.
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Thanks for letting us know?
I don't give a crap if it's 11 months old! It still will keep up with 95% of today's flagship phones. The point of my post was that the verizon version of the lg g4 has a lot of issues and my window to return has passed. But thanks for the sarcastic and usual XDA comment.
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I don't give a crap if it's 11 months old! It still will keep up with 95% of today's flagship phones. The point of my post was that the verizon version of the lg g4 has a lot of issues and my window to return has passed. But thanks for the sarcastic and usual XDA comment.
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Well come on. You go on the G4 forums saying how you dislike the G4. I have no idea what you were expecting for a response...
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I don't give a crap if it's 11 months old! It still will keep up with 95% of today's flagship phones. The point of my post was that the verizon version of the lg g4 has a lot of issues and my window to return has passed. But thanks for the sarcastic and usual XDA comment.
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The Nexus 6 has a much worse camera too.
So you felt the need to create a thread on the G4 forum about how your return window was almost up and decided to get a different phone?
The point of my post was that the g4 (verizon version) has been a complete letdown and that I followed this sub forum since getting the phone and the threads with the most comments are the root threads and/or touch screen problems. When I upgraded from the g3 I thought I would be getting a better product. Neither LG or Verizon will acknowledge the issues this version has. That's why I gave up on the phone, maybe it's a downgrade? All I know is that my particular phone sucked ass and it's great to have a phone that at just works.
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Although some are being babies about people talking smack about their beloved LG G4, I think this was a valuable post. He will surely help others who are unsure as to go with the G4 or not. If I were looking to buy a phone that was 100% solid, and came across a thread like this saying that someone gave it an honest try and couldn't continue, I would be very thankful.
Personally i've had zero issues with my VS986 and wouldn't trade it for anything. I would however be nervous if I broke it and had to claim insurance on it since there would be a chance that my replacement would have touchscreen issues.
Thanks OP! Enjoy your Nexus 6!
I understand your pains but you should have got a Moto X Pure. Slightly smaller, better specs, and sd card support. Mine will be in in a couple weeks.
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I understand your pains but you should have got a Moto X Pure. Slightly smaller, better specs, and sd card support. Mine will be in in a couple weeks.
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Agreed, the Moto X Pure is pretty much better in every way.
So I'm kind of in the same boat. I'm thinking about selling the phone and grabbing the moto x pure. I'm on the edge program. If I sell the phone and pick up the pure, I know I can activate it at Verizon. Do I have to pay off the G4 before activating pure? Or can I just sell the G4, grab the pure, and continue making payments on the G4? Not sure if that would work or not.
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So I'm kind of in the same boat. I'm thinking about selling the phone and grabbing the moto x pure. I'm on the edge program. If I sell the phone and pick up the pure, I know I can activate it at Verizon. Do I have to pay off the G4 before activating pure? Or can I just sell the G4, grab the pure, and continue making payments on the G4? Not sure if that would work or not.
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Pretty sure whoever you sell it to won't be able to activate it, if it isn't paid off.
sefirosu0522 said:
So I'm kind of in the same boat. I'm thinking about selling the phone and grabbing the moto x pure. I'm on the edge program. If I sell the phone and pick up the pure, I know I can activate it at Verizon. Do I have to pay off the G4 before activating pure? Or can I just sell the G4, grab the pure, and continue making payments on the G4? Not sure if that would work or not.
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Pretty sure whoever you sell it to won't be able to activate it, if it isn't paid off.
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From my understanding, you can buy a new phone and/or sell your current one, but if you stop making payments then the person who bought your phone would no longer be able to use it as it's blacklisted.
Yes, this is true you can sell it just don't stop making the payments.
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I would be hella pissed if my phone stopped working several months into it because the guy who sold it to me never paid it off. That sounds like a scam right there. I think Swappa even checks IMEI numbers prior to being posted.
My G4 is fantastic. I really have little to no problem with it. It runs great, battery is great, camera is amazing, stable, etc. My Qi Charging sticker WAS causing lockups throughout the night but those magically went away (for no apparent reason). It will occasionally miss taps (which I suspect to be a background process or CPU throttle issue) and the Notification light gets wonky occasionally (blinks when no notifications).
Other than that the G4 is a powerhouse. There are 2 new Nexus phones to be released this year and the LG seems to be a smaller brother to the G4 (SD 808, 2700mAh battery, 5.2" screen) and the Huawei which is rumored to either use their own CPU, SD810, or SD820 (which I doubt). I would be leery of any of the other 2 choices. If you were to get the LG, you would be sacrificing specs for plain Android (like always)
Phones on Verizon edge do NOT show as a financed phone. I know this seems wrong but it's true, I just checked my wife's droid turbo on swappa and it's clear for activation.
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Phones on Verizon edge do NOT show as a financed phone. I know this seems wrong but it's true, I just checked my wife's droid turbo on swappa and it's clear for activation.
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Technically Swappa does not allow the sale of a financed device per their listing criteria. However as far as I understand there is no way for them to verify if a phone is on an installment/payment plan.
well, I can only hope that you will like your nexus 6. Don't hate your phone~
So far so good
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Clearly thread served its purpose. OP moved on to different device.
All further off topic conversation belongs in the Lounge here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60267764
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Going to buy LG G4, Need some guidance.

I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
A lot of boot loop issues with early production models. It may not be the case with later production models, but these boot loop issues take 5-8 months to show. If you are buying brand new, make sure you have at least a 12 month warranty.
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i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
Guys, friend of mines has LG G4 but it's volume down when it's pressed it doesn't work, it gives him a recent apps instead. How he fix it ??
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raptorddd said:
i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-stuck-bootloop-t3268734
Bootloop has been reported as far as 603.
510's for model US991 seem good. We have it, and haven't had ANY of the reported issues (bootloop nor others).
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I will buy Pure Now. As, I am buying from outside my country and I dont want to take any risk.
Thank You everyone for your kind and prompt replies.
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My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
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What about OP2?
I've never owned a of the OP devices, only because I could never get ahold of them.
Currently, I'm super excited about the HTC 10. It is sounding amazing. Can't wait for a few reviews.
DawarAzhar said:
I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
G4 is a beautiful device it does as commands and is loyal. I bought mine recently and it looks elegant with brown leather. Yes it had hardware failure with 505 and i did get mine keeping that in mind. I own a 512 EU H model. Rooted. Works as a charm. Still optimus has its moments but
Thank god it isnt touchwiz. The camera is jewel and it paints magnificently on the patriot class 10 64gb i reserved for it. Other than that its your call.
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Another vote for the nexus 6p from me. A big amoled screen with front facing speaker running the latest android is a perfect combination. It may be expensive outside the US but if u already consider the m9, the 6p won't be much of a stretch in term of budget. No sdcard and removable battery are nexus' only downsides
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Good luck. I hope you like it.

How many considering returning it back to Verizon?

We know that Verizon has gimped this device. We know Verizon has sold app space on our device storage to the highest bidder. Yes we could disable apps and get around a lot of things. But Verizon has literally treated as FOOLS. Is it all worth it?
We have a 14 day return policy. In my case I have 90 days thru Costco (I believe).
How many if you are seriously considering returning it?
I have until Friday Sept 2nd for my 14 days.
It's amazing how much I had enjoyed the OP3. Now I'm seriously considering throwing the phone back in Verizon's face (figuratively of course).
How many of you are considering returning?
Why return when you can Odin TMO or AT&T firmware since the hardware is the same for all carriers? The only feature I wanted was Samsung cloud and that is now doable and working for me. BThe rest of the features disabled are minimal IMHO.
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I bought the device thru Verizon at Costco. If I terminate the line with Verizon I have to give the device back or pay it off.
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I bought the device thru Verizon at Costco. If I terminate the line with Verizon I have to give the device back or pay it off.
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Understood. Was just trying to provide an option otherwise. [emoji4]
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Will it work on Verizon if I flash tmo or sprint thru Odin?
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Will it work on Verizon if I flash tmo or sprint thru Odin?
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No, they don't support the same bands I believe. Unless someone finds a way to enable them, you could always go with the N930U when it comes out.
TBH I always consider returning anything. Then the 14 days comes and goes...
Look, it's only been a week and there's already root. Even if it's a pain in the arse to do, you have it. That may be close to a record.
Compared to the Note 5 which hasn't been touched. Look how long the Note 4 took to get somewhere.
We could only hope for a way to unlock the bootloader.
But until then, at least there is a way to root the device and it's actually a bonafide root. None of this temporary stuff.
I'm sure this cross flashing stuff will get patched in a future release.
But it's always a challenge at first.
I liked the hardware and options when the S7E came out. Then as I used the phone it started pissing me off. That one I regretted keeping past the return. When I got my GearVR (finally got it in June!) I broke out my Note 5 and used it with that. Then I realized how much I missed the Note 5 and started using it again and put the S7E in a drawer.
Now that the Note 7 is here I'm finding it has the features I like in the Note 5 with the features of the S7E minus its shortcomings. (especially the over sensitive screen and edge panels!). I do wish they stuck with the 16MP sensor. HOWEVER, the camera software on the Note 7, particularly in professional mode, is superior to any Samsung device prior. Being able to adjust shutter speed while shooting video rocks!
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No, they don't support the same bands I believe. Unless someone finds a way to enable them, you could always go with the N930U when it comes out.
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Or flash the U firmware on the VZW when it's released like many did on the S7E.
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cpufrost said:
TBH I always consider returning anything. Then the 14 days comes and goes...
Look, it's only been a week and there's already root.
Now that the Note 7 is here I'm finding it has the features I like in the Note 5 with the features of the S7E minus its shortcomings. (especially the over sensitive screen and edge panels!). I do wish they stuck with the 16MP sensor. HOWEVER, the camera software on the Note 7, particularly in professional mode, is superior to any Samsung device prior. Being able to adjust shutter speed while shooting video rocks!
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I agree. This phone improves upon the S7E. Like you, I always buy with the intention of returning but the Note is a keeper and will be my daily driver. I'll attempt root tomorrow and see how it goes. I like the fact we can always Odin back to stock and maybe I'll try the TMO firmware since I have a TMO sim.
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Actually returned mine day 7. May buy another, but right now I'm sticking with my note 4
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Actually returned mine day 7. May buy another, but right now I'm sticking with my note 4
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What were your reasons for returning?
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Never.. I love this thing.. I really didn't think I would.. But even with them messing with things(i consider them like 5 year old kids that can't leave anything alone), I still like the device. And at this point, I blame Samsung.. They either don't care(which it honestly seems to me to be the case), or simply have no guts..
Either way, there are ways around most of the carrier foolishness.. And it honestly makes me laugh. This is by far the fastest root to have been achieved on a note that I can remember, and I've had all but the 5. The moor they try and lock things down, the better our developers get.. And hire all they want, as it shows, there are plenty in the waking that each generation, are better and more determined than the last.. So I say, to Verizon, who really cares about your bloat and messing.. It will be worked around anyhow..
But no, I wouldn't trade this thing for the world
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I'm debating on it because I for some reason dont get any better battery life than I do with my 6P. I did a hard reset last night and downloaded the apps manually that I use in a day and gonna try that out today and see how it works. If its still garbage it more than likely will go back
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What were your reasons for returning?
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1. The software settings options Verizon had received. I thought it was funny when one of the threads mentioned the removal of ram and battery options. Some people were pissed cause it was gone and the other side was largely berating them because "programmers were better know and knew what was best to optimize the phone."
I feel that flies in the face of what so many android users want and the xda forum stands for. If I buy a phone, it's my phone, to do with as I damn well please, for better or worse.
2. My job puts my phone in some very tough and tumble situations. Quite frankly, I don't feel there's a case/screen protector combo that will keep it safe. I've previously sworn by iblaison cases, and I'm willing to bet they have survived more abuse than many of you put your phones through.
When they get the case/screen/body protector thing figured out, maybe I'll be back.
Guys... in light of the recall today AND the other issues that I've talked about.. I have returned by Galaxy Note 7. It was fun while it lasted, but the last thing I want is the phone exploding or catching fire (small chance.. but still good enough for samsung to issue a recall and stop the sales).
I returned it back to Costco and got the Moto Z Droid instead. So long guys..

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