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[Q] Why isn't this phone taking off?

New to the whole android platform (addicted after buying nexus 7). I have a severely crippled AT&T iphone 4 (cracked screen, no wifi or gps). Looking between the s3/optimus g or nexus 4. This phone has the best specs on the market, possibly the best screen along with LTE and expandable memory. The nexus 4 section has almost 4 times as many posts as this. Why isn't this phone hyped up? People are still saying the s3 is a better phone than this. Is LG really that bad? I tested this phone out at best buy twice, it is awesome however the camera isn't all that amazing to me (will try again). I would like an unlocked boot-loader (who wouldn't) just for root access for a few of my apps and tethering... Otterbox already has a case for it I am ready to buy. However it seems this phone will be swept under the rug. I don't want to invest two years for a phone that has no support.
Am I the only one?

stigma.... Most at&t reps wouldn't have a clue if you walked into the store and asked what is the fastest phone you have... which runs Krait... What are MHL capable. sg3, pantech breeze, and Iphone, note, I those are the phones they keep selling.... It's gonna take some time.
LGOG Bam!

The previous user nailed it. If the s3 sells more, reps will push it even nor because it's a safe bet. It's why a lot of people have a hard time switching from iOS to Android. Sells people sell it and almost everyone has one.
It's hard to steer people in a new direction even I'd there is a better product sometimes. That's just capitalism for you. Although I wish this phone got more attention.. If it received half the affection the s3 gets, lg may listen to the petitions or we would have more devs working on the bootloader.
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Optimus G will be released in europe in 2013.
So nobody cares about this phone, in 2013 next generation of high-end-phones from samsung, htc,... will be released too. And then this one will be outdated directly at release...
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sturmtruppler said:
Optimus G will be released in europe in 2013.
So nobody cares about this phone, in 2013 next generation of high-end-phones from samsung, htc,... will be released too. And then this one will be outdated directly at release...
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I just went to at&t and the guy has never even heard of the phone. This is why this will fail

Why does it have to be popular. I like and that's all that matters.
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spacecasespiff said:
Why does it have to be popular. I like and that's all that matters.
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While I agree, if the phone is a big seller it will get more attention/support/updates/accessories.

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Why does it have to be popular. I like and that's all that matters.
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More popularity means more devs trying to crack the bootloader. It also means more petitions signed to get the bootloader unlocked. I'd say it's ask pretty important.
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Not everyone cares about it getting unlocked. I don't. Its a good phone without that. Yes it can be better but I know more people that don't care about rooting then I do that care. I think people are missing out on a great phone just because its locked down. I understand why a lot of people want it unlock but that will never choose my phone for me. It will be unlocked very soon. Its almost there now. I happy that it is but at the same time I don't care. Its the fastest phone I've ever owned whether it popular or not. But will more cases come out for it if it gets unlocked ? LG has to prove themselves first then the rest will come. Samsung was in the same boat for awhile, now look at them.
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I hate to sound like a spoil sport, but I've been down this road before with people wanting petitions for various reasons be it to unlock bout loaders, release ril or release certain drivers that would make Dev support better. Unfortunately it always fails. I hope the best for anybody that try's to promote development within the community, but my advice to anybody that Dev support is of highest importance is to either get a phone that is already well established within the community or get a nexus device. This is why I got a nexus device and I'm glad I did. Best move I ever made.
Once again Best of luck to anyone who promotes development in the community as that's what this is all about!

Y'all are right I work from AT&T and I see iPhone users return the S3 all the time simply because it's not the iPhone they recognize its capable of doing the same things but are not willing to adapt to the change... I've had the optimus and even when telling people it's better than the S3 they know about the S3 and rather take the sage route than try the cool phone I have... I will say however most of my co-workers are avid iPhone junkies and will reuse to believe anything is better than the iPhone... and their right from a usability stand point but from a functionality stand point android trumps every time... but it's all abt what people see on tv and hear abt from peers
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giant22000 said:
I hate to sound like a spoil sport, but I've been down this road before with people wanting petitions for various reasons be it to unlock bout loaders, release ril or release certain drivers that would make Dev support better. Unfortunately it always fails.
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Giant, I will refer you to the Amaze 4g forum, where after a barrage of inquiries and a petition, HTC finally released the WIFI / BT chipset drivers. MOST times it fails, but it can happen.
Now, to the question at hand. Not only is it correct that AT&T store folks by and large haven't a clue, but you'll find a good majority on this type of site treat anything put out by LG with extreme caution. Their support is miserable when it comes to software updates AND release of drivers etc... Many of us are hopeful, because of the N4 being an LG product on some level, that they'll wake up and smell the coffee, but I am not holding my breath.
It is a great handset, but I am a flash addict, and I've been down this road before. I still own a G2x that I've passed on to my daughter.

I have been debating whether to get the Nexus 4 16 gb ($359 CDN + $20 shipping + 5% tax = $400) or go with the Rogers Optimus G which is being offered $129 ($135 with tax) on a 3 year contract. That is a huge price difference.
The risk with choosing the Optimus G is that it never gets its bootloader unlocked and I'll always be stuck with an outdated, limited version of Android.
For this reason I've decided to go with the Nexus 4 even though the initial price is higher. If the Optimus G gets unlocked I can always sell the Nexus and recoup most of the expense. If the Optimus never gets unlocked, I'll be satisfied with my Nexus purchase and I'll even be able to sell it in a year when the next Nexus phone is released.

On the other hand: LTE+External SD

carrett said:
On the other hand: LTE+External SD
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I agree. Lack of LTE is what killed the N4 for me and pushed me to the LGOG. If the OG bootloader never gets unlocked and Google get their wits about them and releases an LTE N4 in the future, I'd be happy to switch.

Quitting on this phone

I was about to buy this amazing phone, when I remembered that it has a locked bootloader which means no CM10.1 which means im stuck with android 4.1. Then I researched a bit and found out that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is highly rumored to come out at CES 2013, which is probably gonna be running android 4.2 and be able to have CM10.1! So I guess this is goodbye!

You can unlock it.

samsungepicgeek said:
I was about to buy this amazing phone, when I remembered that it has a locked bootloader which means no CM10.1 which means im stuck with android 4.1. Then I researched a bit and found out that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is highly rumored to come out at CES 2013, which is probably gonna be running android 4.2 and be able to have CM10.1! So I guess this is goodbye!
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You were here? I thought presence was required before saying "goodbye"? Glad you shared your useless thoughts.

samsungepicgeek said:
I was about to buy this amazing phone, when I remembered that it has a locked bootloader which means no CM10.1 which means im stuck with android 4.1. Then I researched a bit and found out that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is highly rumored to come out at CES 2013, which is probably gonna be running android 4.2 and be able to have CM10.1! So I guess this is goodbye!
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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So, SamsungEpicGuy looked at our phone. Then he said that nothing Samsung has is better at the moment but some time in 2013 he is going to be rocking a phone that is better than this one.
Seriously, where is the moderator at? We have Question in the General Section. We have general comments in the development section. Now we have trolls wanting things that don't exist.

Haters going to hate, trollers going to troll. Fuhget about Em lol
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Good effort getting 5 replies in an hour, but could troll harder (mention no microSD slot maybe), 3 stars

Kchitown1977 said:
Haters going to hate, trollers going to troll. Fuhget about Em lol
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Yep, BTW...Rangers lead the way!
I personally am a fan or 101st Airborne. We have a "Rendezvous With Destiny".

kc_exactly said:
Yep, BTW...Rangers lead the way!
I personally am a fan or 101st Airborne. We have a "Rendezvous With Destiny".
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I hear. I ain't gonna hate on the rangers..... We still all brothers in arms
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The bootloader was unlocked....Read development.
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Poor guy, by the time the S4 comes out there will be something "better" from LG or HTC etc.... he's probably waiting on the iphone 8 lol
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Need help making a choice...
Hi everybody. I thinking about getting a new phone but I'm having a hard time deciding between the evo lte or the lg optimus. I currently have the evo 3d. Honestly I'm leaning more towards the optimus. Is it really as good as it seems? Obviously the specs are amazing but if you actually have the phone or have used it, would you recommend that I get it too. I also noticed more activity on these forums which is a good thing. I'm not as skilled as most of you but I like to root my phone and all that... Thanks for the help!!

Lurien said:
Hi everybody. I thinking about getting a new phone but I'm having a hard time deciding between the evo lte or the lg optimus. I currently have the evo 3d. Honestly I'm leaning more towards the optimus. Is it really as good as it seems? Obviously the specs are amazing but if you actually have the phone or have used it, would you recommend that I get it too. I also noticed more activity on these forums which is a good thing. I'm not as skilled as most of you but I like to root my phone and all that... Thanks for the help!!
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I would honestly stay away from the Evo 4G LTE. I was a pre-order coming off an OG EVO. Sense 4 is way over aggressive on task killing and the stock mail apk would not translate html from my work exchange server , so I got lines of code. The phone also has very poor performance picking up lte signal. Deck's cm10 made the phone much better (Deck is the only saving grace in my opinion).
Sprint switched me into the S3 last week, and I picked up a lgog off Craigslist for cheap. I think both of these phones are superior to the Evo 4Gm lte . I do like the Evo 4G lte display though.

Lurien said:
Hi everybody. I thinking about getting a new phone but I'm having a hard time deciding between the evo lte or the lg optimus. I currently have the evo 3d. Honestly I'm leaning more towards the optimus. Is it really as good as it seems? Obviously the specs are amazing but if you actually have the phone or have used it, would you recommend that I get it too. I also noticed more activity on these forums which is a good thing. I'm not as skilled as most of you but I like to root my phone and all that... Thanks for the help!!
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Personally after owning a 3D, idk how you could consider HTC again. I wanted to throw mine against a wall. I absolutely love the Optimus G and would highly recommend it to other people. The camera isn't as good as the Evo LTE or the GS3 but it's good enough for what I need. Performance is lightning quick, battery life is great, very high build quality, and the screen is gorgeous. And LG's UI is actually really nice, I like it much better than Sense.
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ncfastls1 said:
Personally after owning a 3D, idk how you could consider HTC again. I wanted to throw mine against a wall. I absolutely love the Optimus G and would highly recommend it to other people. The camera isn't as good as the Evo LTE or the GS3 but it's good enough for what I need. Performance is lightning quick, battery life is great, very high build quality, and the screen is gorgeous. And LG's UI is actually really nice, I like it much better than Sense.
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I understand what you're your saying; but when I bought the 3d I was coming from (ironically) an LG phone. But that phone was very, very basic. So when I got the 3d, my first smartphone, it was the biggest thing to me at the time. Reading your comment I can tell that I'll have that same feeling if I get the Optimus G, if its as great as many people say. Thanks for your insight.

Ok, guys I am extremely sorry for what I have posted. I obviously was a complete dumb ****. I wasn't thinking at the time because I was doing so many things outside of android life, So Sorry.

samsungepicgeek said:
Ok, guys I am extremely sorry for what I have posted. I obviously was a complete dumb ****. I wasn't thinking at the time because I was doing so many things outside of android life, So Sorry.
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Your name is samsungepicgeek, you sure you got a life??
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Lurien said:
I understand what you're your saying; but when I bought the 3d I was coming from (ironically) an LG phone. But that phone was very, very basic. So when I got the 3d, my first smartphone, it was the biggest thing to me at the time. Reading your comment I can tell that I'll have that same feeling if I get the Optimus G, if its as great as many people say. Thanks for your insight.
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My first smart phone was the Evo 4G. It was mind blowingly awesome. Like I literally loved everything about it, except for the top mounted power button that felt extremely cheap, and they continued that with the Evo 3D. Why HTC keeps thinking the top is the best place for the unlock/power button is beyond me...I'm so happy that it's on the side with the OG. I ended up with a 3D cause I shattered the screen on my 4G and they sent me one through insurance. After two years with HTC, I hate Sense and I'm just ready to move on. I'm not really brand biased, so I was open to LG. I had a LG Shine years back and I absolutely loved that phone. Even without a buzzing dev community it's still a great phone. I think you'll be very happy here though

New to this group. Had HTC for a long time and now the Samsung Epic 4G Touch (love this phone). But i have looked at all the options out there and it does seems that this Optimus G is the BEST out there (at least for now, and i i looking for a phone now!!!) So just ordered it...and will be in this forum from now on.
JP

samsungepicgeek said:
Ok, guys I am extremely sorry for what I have posted. I obviously was a complete dumb ****. I wasn't thinking at the time because I was doing so many things outside of android life, So Sorry.
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What's done is done. Welcome back!
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joao2307 said:
New to this group. Had HTC for a long time and now the Samsung Epic 4G Touch (love this phone). But i have looked at all the options out there and it does seems that this Optimus G is the BEST out there (at least for now, and i i looking for a phone now!!!) So just ordered it...and will be in this forum from now on.
JP
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Sounds like we had a similar update path. I went from the original Evo 4G to the Epic 4G Touch(which I sadly dropped in my soup at a sushi restaurant, phone still kind of works, btw, but the charging light won't turn off) and am now also on the Optimus G. With that being said, here's what you will miss:
1. The super saturated Super AMOLED Plus display. It will take time for your eyes and brain to adjust to normal color temperatures so don't let that put you off.
2. Samsung's Smart alarm. If you don't know what it is though, then you won't miss it, but it was a built in alarm function that would wake you gently to nature sounds. I missed it horribly...at first...until I downloaded Alarm Clock Xtreme and a $0.99 nature sounds album from Amazon.
3. Getting used to not having a microSD card slot.
4. Removable battery...not a huge deal since the Optimus G battery is much larger capacity, but I did have the stock battery on my Epic 4G Touch swell before I got the battery replaced, hopefully that won't be an issue with the Optimus "non-removable" battery.
5. Not going to lie, the camera on the Epic is better. With that being said, You may want to look into Camera ZoomFX for the time being as the Optimus has an issue with locking in autofocus, losing it and locking in again....even when you touch to focus. The aforementioned app doesn't appear to have that problem so it's believed to be a problem in LG's camera software, not necessarily the hardware.
With that being said, here's what you'll gain:
1. Quite possibly one of the best LCD displays out at the moment(excepting the Droid DNAs freakishly high pixel count). 720P movies look amazing on the Optimus G.
2. 50GB box.com account. Just download it from the play store directly from the phone and they will make 50 GB available to you for free. You can then download it on your Epic and use it to easily transfer files from one phone to another wirelessly as well as using it on your computer as well.
3. I never did the ICS update on my Epic as I was rooted, so maybe this wasn't an issue, but ICS no longer separates app storage partitions so the full amount of formatted memory on the phone is available to be used for app store.
4. 2 GB of ram(I guess in truth you're gaining one since the Epic had 1GB).
5. If you have an MHL adaptor for your Epic, rest assured knowing it will work with the Optimus G, unlike the GS3 and Note 2 where Samsung broke with traditional MHL compatibility forcing you to buy their overpriced MHL adaptor.
6. Working GPS. I dare you to download GPS test on the Epic and then the Optimus when you receive it and go outside and see how long they take to get a lock and how many satellites the phones are actually connecting to. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. My Epic would never connect to more than a handful at a time and had accuracy ranges measured in tens of yards. The Optimus G connects magnitudes faster and to more satellites with an average accuracy of 10 feet as far as I've observed.
7. Build quality to put Samsung to shame. Co-worker of mine got the GS3 about the same time I got my Optimus and for 14 days, he really had to convince himself he was ok with the subjectively chintzy feeling of the GS3 in comparison to the solid construction of the Optimus(he came from an original Evo as well so weight and solidity were what he was used to).
8. Less tangible, but the hope is that since this phone is a near clone of the Nexus 4, there should be plenty of development on it and since LG is in the Nexus program now, hopefully Jellybean will follow in short order.
9. Effective radios. I already mentioned GPS, but I've found wifi to be much stronger with this phone as is 3G(I won't compare 4G since they use different technologies). In one of the other posts someone posted the FCC measurements and this phone is right up there with the Motorola Photon(Moto usually seems to design some of the most effective radios out there so that's high praise).
10. Last but not least, his beast of a processor. The Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core with the Adreno 320 GPU. Quadrant scores in the mid to high 7000 range are now within your grasp(for what it's worth...bragging rights, maybe). With that being said, the phone behaves like it's on steroids. Nothing slows it down.
Welcome to the group!

Thought this was interesting

LGOG ranked second only to a phone which hasn't been announced yet.
http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-gala...no-1-browsermark-20-browser-benchmark-1107407
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I'm actually surprised the LGOG doesn't get more love in the android community, it's always S3 this and HTC One that, LGOG is crazy powerful and awesome
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I'm actually surprised the LGOG doesn't get more love in the android community, it's always S3 this and HTC One that, LGOG is crazy powerful and awesome
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I know. I thought this phone will be picked up by alot of people, especially when it was going for $100 at best buy with these specs. But alot of people stay away from LG phones. I almost did the same thing.

Its because LG has always been really bad with their stuff. like the LG optimus S for example and the LG Viper was the biggest fail ever. People chose samsung and HTC because they are reliable phones and have been for the last few years. As for me im still a Samsung guy Just simply Because Samsung phones have treated me really nicely. I like the LGOG though because it is blazing fast. even a little faster than my note 2. but when it comes to multimedia etc. the note 2 kills the LG in almost every way. and LG did kind of copy samsung in some ways too. the UI and gestures etc. but i like them all! lol. i only bought the optimus G cause the nexus 4 didnt come to sprint and the LGOG is the Nexus 4 minus the Jellybean and Pure aosp. but overall The LGOG is a Top of the line phone hands down for sure.. and does need more love from devs lol

What's so crazy is that this is hands down the best phone out there next to the nexus 4 (same phone) the thing is, no one knows about it. People automatically think LG is crap because they don't know about it. They know all about the Samsung Galaxy phones because TV tells you that its the best thing out and you have to have it. I guarantee you that there are only a few Galaxy users who can actually tell you why they have that phone let alone what's under the hood. This phone will kill any phone out right now and people just don't get it because its not marketed correctly. I mean you even if it was how many people would get excited because it had quad core processor? People ( stupid people) would be like 13MP camera hells yea! . When I first got this thing all the guys at work talked so much crap about it being LG. They all have iPhone 5's (phones for noobs) and all I did was turn on all 4 of my cores. They have yet to say anything again about my OG!
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What's so crazy is that this is hands down the best phone out there next to the nexus 4 (same phone) the thing is, no one knows about it. People automatically think LG is crap because they don't know about it. They know all about the Samsung Galaxy phones because TV tells you that its the best thing out and you have to have it. I guarantee you that there are only a few Galaxy users who can actually tell you why they have that phone let alone what's under the hood. This phone will kill any phone out right now and people just don't get it because its not marketed correctly. I mean you even if it was how many people would get excited because it had quad core processor? People ( stupid people) would be like 13MP camera hells yea! . When I first got this thing all the guys at work talked so much crap about it being LG. They all have iPhone 5's (phones for noobs) and all I did was turn on all 4 of my cores. They have yet to say anything again about my OG!
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Yep, market-ing = market share. I personally just think that LG doesn't care too much about their mobile division, especially when they're battling up hill against Samsung and Apple. They're probably OK with making a small profit off of mobile while making their real money off of TVs and appliances.

Not to hate on the LGOG, but when I owned the phone for a few weeks I felt the phone had some shortcomings. Hated the LTE connectivity or lack there of. The speaker is by far the worst speaker I've ever heard on a smart phone. The 13 megapixel camera is lacking. LG's iOS or what ever its called lacks features and widgets.
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sirswag87 said:
What's so crazy is that this is hands down the best phone out there next to the nexus 4 (same phone) the thing is, no one knows about it. People automatically think LG is crap because they don't know about it. They know all about the Samsung Galaxy phones because TV tells you that its the best thing out and you have to have it. I guarantee you that there are only a few Galaxy users who can actually tell you why they have that phone let alone what's under the hood. This phone will kill any phone out right now and people just don't get it because its not marketed correctly. I mean you even if it was how many people would get excited because it had quad core processor? People ( stupid people) would be like 13MP camera hells yea! . When I first got this thing all the guys at work talked so much crap about it being LG. They all have iPhone 5's (phones for noobs) and all I did was turn on all 4 of my cores. They have yet to say anything again about my OG!
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The lgog is a good android phone. But it's not the best. This phone still needs a lot of work on the ui and bloat. The only thing actually good about this is the res and the s4pro backed up with 2gigs of ram. If it had a dual core like the s3 I wouldn't even bother with it lol. It'll just be like the LG viper.... That phone was a waste of my cash. But at least LG made this phone to cover their epic fail on the viper.
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One thing I don't like this phone is touch screen acts like crazy while charging. It seems like it is hardware related issue....
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drancid said:
One thing I don't like this phone is touch screen acts like crazy while charging. It seems like it is hardware related issue....
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Seen that hundreds of time on many phones. Try a different charger, or two. A defective/cheap charger will tend to have a lot of "noise" and cause touchscreen issues. I have two chargers right now that make the touchscreen unusable but have five or six that give me no issue.

Hardwares only as good as its software and unfortunately LG has sh!t software. I have an OG for work and forwarded everything on it to my personal line(note 2) the OG sits on the desk collecting dust cuz its just unimpressive and a pain to try and use the little screen. After having my note 2 every other phone I pick up feels like my palm just swallowed it and typing is so awkward I get frustrated and give up. Small phone + big hands = :banghead: especially after having a phone that actually feels comfortable in them. The Optimus G came blazing out of the gate, then tripped on its lackluster software and crap support to land right on its pretty face and stay there for the rest of the race. By the time (if) lg ever gets ths software up to par with the rest of the Android world the OG will be headed for an EOL and its replacement will already be en queue.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Hardwares only as good as its software and unfortunately LG has sh!t software. I have an OG for work and forwarded everything on it to my personal line(note 2) the OG sits on the desk collecting dust cuz its just unimpressive and a pain to try and use the little screen. After having my note 2 every other phone I pick up feels like my palm just swallowed it and typing is so awkward I get frustrated and give up. Small phone + big hands = :banghead: especially after having a phone that actually feels comfortable in them. The Optimus G came blazing out of the gate, then tripped on its lackluster software and crap support to land right on its pretty face and stay there for the rest of the race. By the time (if) lg ever gets ths software up to par with the rest of the Android world the OG will be headed for an EOL and its replacement will already be en queue.
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If I'm hearing you right, you're saying the OG has a small screen?

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If I'm hearing you right, you're saying the OG has a small screen?
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Compared to my note 2 yes all other phones feel tiny now, especially since im much larger than average at 6'7" my gs3, optimus g, og evo, mopho all feel small, don't even get me started on iphone I cant even hold the 4s unless its in landscape. When I try to use smaller screen phones now I get serious hand cramps trying to type 2 handed, it was never like that til I got used to the note2 now it's awkward as hell. It would take me weeks to get used to using a "normal" sized phone again. It's not so much the size in numerical value as it is the dimensions are narrow and tall. When I put my OG next to my note the note screen is about as wide as 3/4 of the height of the OG screen and the OG is about half as wide as my note in portrait, maybe a 5/8s as wide. Trust me when I tell you its awkward going from 5.5" to >5". It doesn't seem like it would be a huge difference on paper but IRL it seems like feet instead of inches in my big ass hands. It just seems like a kids toy now. I guess I'm just spoiled now.
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I would like to add that for the entire month of February I can honestly say the optimus G was the only phone I was selling. If that's not enough then out of the entire district I placed 7th in sales out of 200ish. If a customer was willing to through down 200 on a phone then I made sure they got the optimus G! I sold 1 iPhone 5 but it doesn't count because they later exchanged for the optimus G. I have talked to other store employees about pushing this phone as much as they could and I'm happy/sad to announce that the optimus G is now on back order "due to recent unexpected high sales"
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Compared to my note 2 yes all other phones feel tiny now, especially since im much larger than average at 6'7" my gs3, optimus g, og evo, mopho all feel small, don't even get me started on iphone I cant even hold the 4s unless its in landscape. When I try to use smaller screen phones now I get serious hand cramps trying to type 2 handed, it was never like that til I got used to the note2 now it's awkward as hell. It would take me weeks to get used to using a "normal" sized phone again. It's not so much the size in numerical value as it is the dimensions are narrow and tall. When I put my OG next to my note the note screen is about as wide as 3/4 of the height of the OG screen and the OG is about half as wide as my note in portrait, maybe a 5/8s as wide. Trust me when I tell you its awkward going from 5.5" to >5". It doesn't seem like it would be a huge difference on paper but IRL it seems like feet instead of inches in my big ass hands. It just seems like a kids toy now. I guess I'm just spoiled now.
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Please don't diss a phone just because your hands are larger than the average human.. Its a great phone. Newer hardware than the note 2 and stock software doesn't count. Of course you know that or you wouldn't be here on xda.
Please if your going complain about a phone don't bring your unusually large hands into this. It doesn't make for a valid argument. Its a personal defect. You knew this before buying the optimus g. Don't understand why you would waste money on a phone that you KNEW you couldn't use...
Anyway.. On a positive note.. Good kush. Anyone else want to join I'm in Washington
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tsdeaton said:
I would like to add that for the entire month of February I can honestly say the optimus G was the only phone I was selling. If that's not enough then out of the entire district I placed 7th in sales out of 200ish. If a customer was willing to through down 200 on a phone then I made sure they got the optimus G! I sold 1 iPhone 5 but it doesn't count because they later exchanged for the optimus G. I have talked to other store employees about pushing this phone as much as they could and I'm happy/sad to announce that the optimus G is now on back order "due to recent unexpected high sales"
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Please don't diss a phone just because your hands are larger than the average human.. Its a great phone. Newer hardware than the note 2 and stock software doesn't count. Of course you know that or you wouldn't be here on xda.
Please if your going complain about a phone don't bring your unusually large hands into this. It doesn't make for a valid argument. Its a personal defect. You knew this before buying the optimus g. Don't understand why you would waste money on a phone that you KNEW you couldn't use...
Anyway.. On a positive note.. Good kush. Anyone else want to join I'm in Washington
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I didn't buy the optimus g I was pawned off on me by my boss. I wouldn't waste my money on any LG device, not after every single mobile phone I've had from thek was complete crap due to their shotty software. Never understood why a company would put crap software on a highend phone, since the hardware can't perform to its potential. Go play with a nexus 4 and and optimus g at the same time, you'll hate lg for putting that crapware on the OG. It's pretty funny you think having big hands is a personal defect, you must be a hobbit with small man syndrome. It wouldn't matter if the OG was as big as my note anyways I still wouldn't waste my money on it. Hell I got it free and I dont even use it I just forwarded all my calls and emails to my note. And you would have never sold me an OG even at gunpoint, I would have laughed in your face. It's not my fault LG has their priorities backasswards and can't build decent software to save their life. Like I said what good is the best hardware if the software doesn't work right? It's like buying a ferrari and putting a prius engine in it, pointless. Now go back to your LG loving and leave the realists to reality, LG dropped the ball yet again by putting busted software and crap support on what could have been a great device.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I didn't buy the optimus g I was pawned off on me by my boss. I wouldn't waste my money on any LG device, not after every single mobile phone I've had from thek was complete crap due to their shotty software. Never understood why a company would put crap software on a highend phone, since the hardware can't perform to its potential. Go play with a nexus 4 and and optimus g at the same time, you'll hate lg for putting that crapware on the OG. It's pretty funny you think having big hands is a personal defect, you must be a hobbit with small man syndrome. It wouldn't matter if the OG was as big as my note anyways I still wouldn't waste my money on it. Hell I got it free and I dont even use it I just forwarded all my calls and emails to my note. And you would have never sold me an OG even at gunpoint, I would have laughed in your face. It's not my fault LG has their priorities backasswards and can't build decent software to save their life. Like I said what good is the best hardware if the software doesn't work right? It's like buying a ferrari and putting a prius engine in it, pointless. Now go back to your LG loving and leave the realists to reality, LG dropped the ball yet again by putting busted software and crap support on what could have been a great device.
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The software has worked great more me and several others who have used it. Besides the ICS messenger. They fixed that issue with the jellybean update. I've had and have seen more issued with the s3 and note 2 software than I have with the OG.. But then again I work at a repair center. So I see the worst out of every phone on a daily basis. And believe me.. Samsung is just as bad. Its the UI thing. Of course the nexus 4 will perform better. Its pure android. None of the bloat to bog it down. Lg had it rough with there past devices but the OG is a big step. With each update getting better and better. Most are still running ICS. do you remember how the s3 ran on ICS? Or even worse the s2.. It was so difficult to sell the phone because of how ****ty the touchwiz worked on ICS. I'm assuming its the same with the OG. Wait for jellybean to finish rolling out then update your argument.
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Only issue ive ever had with samsung was that crappy intercept. My s2, s3 and note 2 have never had any issues with the software. At least not like the OG biggest issue I have with that stupid thing is it dialing the contact instead of sending the text, drives me nuts especially when im trying to avoid calling someone via text only to have the stupid phone call em for me. LG never updates their devices on time, I mean seriously their flagship device is still on 4.0.4 for the most part, entirely til this week. They will do What they always do push out halfassed unfinished updates then after a year or 18 months drop support and EOL the device. HTC and LG have serious support issues and issues with allowing the end user control through locked bootloaders and threats of legal action for hosting or modifying their stock crapware. Not to mention they take forever to release source, which is what im waiting for now so I can compile my rom for the OG and get it the hell off of LGs teat. Then maybe I'll actually do something with it besides stuff it in a corner of my desk to hold my paperwork down while it basically works as my secretary and forwards me my calls.
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nothing i must say haha
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drancid said:
One thing I don't like this phone is touch screen acts like crazy while charging. It seems like it is hardware related issue....
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Havent seen that since V9
What is Optimus Prime's full name?
Optimus G. Prime

Samsung has terrible build quality and awful viewing angles and color reproduction. Depending on your angle, white can look blue, yellow, pink, or greenish.
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Would you buy another Optimus

LG Optimus G2
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/05/07/lg-optimus-g2-sprint-snapdragon-800/

Really?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267155
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264621
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Really?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267155
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264621
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Brush up on your reading skills.
I'm asking current owners IF they'd buy another Optimus.
And why or why not.

I wouldn't buy the G2, because it'll be way too soon for me to buy a new phone, but when my upgrade rolls around I'll certainly consider another Optimus phone. So far I've had the Optimus S and the Optimus G, two fantastic phones. The S can actually run jellybean fairly smoothly, it's amazing.

trsix said:
Brush up on your reading skills.
I'm asking current owners IF they'd buy another Optimus.
And why or why not.
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I would buy another optimus and this is a fairly decent upgrade, however, I will still wait a year. Right now, my two favorite companies are HTC and LG. They make high quality, innovative stuff.
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I just sold my optimus G to get the HTC One and I'm very happy with my decision but that being said I would still buy another optimus. I was so happy with my purchase of the optimus G and wouldnt have given it up if it werent for me getting such a great deal on the HTC one. $30.
LG came from dirt phone after dirt phone and surprised us all with the optimus G. Surprised everyone and did it with style. All anyone could talk about was galaxy s3 this evo lte that, razr, one x, ect. Then this phone came out. Sh!t all over the compition and even mocked samsung with their "4" billboard. The ONLY thing keeping this device from being any more popular is the fact that they have fail so many times before with previous devices.
Now coming out with a device to compete with the note series and another G to keep up with the one and s4 even though they don't have to. The optimus G is still just as good as the high end phones coming out today. They are doing this to keep their name fresh and to hopefully one day soon give people more of a choice when going to upgrade rather than depending on the reps to push their stuff.
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I just sold my optimus G to get the HTC One and I'm very happy with my decision but that being said I would still buy another optimus. I was so happy with my purchase of the optimus G and wouldnt have given it up if it werent for me getting such a great deal on the HTC one. $30.
LG came from dirt phone after dirt phone and surprised us all with the optimus G. Surprised everyone and did it with style. All anyone could talk about was galaxy s3 this evo lte that, razr, one x, ect. Then this phone came out. Sh!t all over the compition and even mocked samsung with their "4" billboard. The ONLY thing keeping this device from being any more popular is the fact that they have fail so many times before with previous devices.
Now coming out with a device to compete with the note series and another G to keep up with the one and s4 even though they don't have to. The optimus G is still just as good as the high end phones coming out today. They are doing this to keep their name fresh and to hopefully one day soon give people more of a choice when going to upgrade rather than depending on the reps to push their stuff.
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LG could be the next Samsung. Before the s1, they made crap devices, such as the moment. The s1 and s2 were good, but not a household name. Then comes the s3 and its incessant advertising and people think that just because they advertise that it's the best phone, so since HTC is a smaller company, and has a lower budget, they are getting screwed despite having higher quality products. Oh how the tables have turned since the evo. No one had heard of a galaxy, it wasn't even offered as that on carriers. The only phones sprint advertised were the evo line, until the s3.
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No. The camera on this phone is not very good. Also there is not enough devs working on this phone. The Galaxy phones have awesome devs working on every tiny thing.

pdelacr2 said:
No. The camera on this phone is not very good. Also there is not enough devs working on this phone. The Galaxy phones have awesome devs working on every tiny thing.
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I knew we would see this answer...
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pdelacr2 said:
No. The camera on this phone is not very good. Also there is not enough devs working on this phone. The Galaxy phones have awesome devs working on every tiny thing.
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yeah 100 roms based on the same stock deodexed rom is real development :good:

Well..I've only had this phone since this Friday but... judging from how zippy this one feels compared to most every thing out now...I'd say yes. Granted I'm coming from a GS2 but so far I really like this one.
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bumsock said:
Well..I've only had this phone since this Friday but... judging from how zippy this one feels compared to most every thing out now...I'd say yes. Granted I'm coming from a GS2 but so far I really like this one.
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Just curious, what made you decide on this rather than the One or S4?

Well unforeseen circumstances forced me to buy a phone outright off contract . So at first I asked about the galaxy s4 and the Sprint rep said that they could not sell it off contract... something about because it has a SIM card :what: BUT...I still have an upgrade coming a little later, probably around the time the Galaxy Note 3 is out and what ever else comes out by then.
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I think there is only a 50 dollar difference between the phones (One S4 and This one) but I was pushing it money wise getting this lol
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pdelacr2 said:
No. The camera on this phone is not very good. Also there is not enough devs working on this phone. The Galaxy phones have awesome devs working on every tiny thing.
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I agree not as much development but how much do we really need we have the main AOSP ROMs with a few minor bugs, we have tweaked stock all we really need is sense 5 which is coming soon. The camera is garbage in low light situations but in good lighting it is nice.
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bumsock said:
Well unforeseen circumstances forced me to buy a phone outright off contract . So at first I asked about the galaxy s4 and the Sprint rep said that they could not sell it off contract... something about because it has a SIM card :what: BUT...I still have an upgrade coming a little later, probably around the time the Galaxy Note 3 is out and what ever else comes out by then.
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I think there is only a 50 dollar difference between the phones (One S4 and This one) but I was pushing it money wise getting this lol
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When is your upgrade? If it's within 6 months then it would have been a lot cheaper to pay the early upgrade fee and got an s4 or one than to pay outright
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I definitely would, but I would like to see one with 64GB internal or better yet, a microSD slot. I find myself constantly moving stuff off from my phone to computer to make space (photos, videos, backups).

Nope. I'm in fact in the process of getting rid every phone I've been on since the Photon (LGOG included) and going back to the Photon or the Atrix. Every one of them has been a downgrade and a waste of silicon in my eyes.
pdelacr2 said:
No. The camera on this phone is not very good. Also there is not enough devs working on this phone. The Galaxy phones have awesome devs working on every tiny thing.
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And most of those "ROMs" are themes and copycat tweaks distributed as ROMs. So the Galaxy phones have a couple true ROMs and a ton of themes pretending to be ROMs.

pdelacr2 said:
No. The camera on this phone is not very good. Also there is not enough devs working on this phone. The Galaxy phones have awesome devs working on every tiny thing.
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sharkboy0901 said:
I agree not as much development but how much do we really need we have the main AOSP ROMs with a few minor bugs, we have tweaked stock all we really need is sense 5 which is coming soon. The camera is garbage in low light situations but in good lighting it is nice.
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By all means you guys are more then welcome to set up to the plate. Sorry there is a lack of dev support for this phone, but the people have worked on this phone have worked very hard. You have no idea. We put in 3 months or so into getting you guys working Aosp. Getting everything working was a total pain in the ass. LGs implementation of EFS was a night mare to get passed, but we came up with a good solution. We probably lost 10 phones or so before we figured it out. I know I personally had two replacements. So be happy for what you have. I know for a fact all of the roms in the original dev section are working and stable. I was actually thinking to myself yesterday that I am actually starting to like this this phone (even though it has been a total ***** to me through the entire process).
If you get a chance. Thank Shelnutt2, thecubed, Autoprime, dvxher and Synergy when you get a chance. Also, Mike_77, Redmk, chachin, Interloper, ilkinansr92 and last but not least my favorite tester Theo2889. Without these guys none of this would ever of happened.

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By all means you guys are more then welcome to set up to the plate. Sorry there is a lack of dev support for this phone, but the people have worked on it have worked very hard. We put in 3 months or so into getting you guys working Aosp. Getting everything working was not as easy as you think. So be happy for what you have. I know for a fact all of the roms in the original dev section are working and stable. I was actually thinking to myself yesterday that I am actually starting to like this this phone (even though it has been a total ***** to me through the entire process).
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Guys like this are a big reason I WOULD buy another Optimus.
We may not have a million ROMs like the SIII, but I have maintained from day one that this is a good thing for us. Our ROMs are stable, functional, and well supported. The Quality v Quantity theory.The devs that we have are committed and really produce some great work. Even builds that have been labeled as "unstable", in my experience, have been pretty danged stable.
Additionally, I think that LG really knocked it out of the park with the hardware on this phone. I would love to see an SD card slot, but haven't really had need for one thanks to cloud services, I would just like the option. I would like to see a better sensor on the camera, but let's be honest, if you want glamour shots you should buy a camera, not a phone. Other than that, I literally have no complaints about this Optimus G and I go so far as to say that it is the best phone I have owned to date. I cannot wait to see what it does when they finally deploy LTE in Denver, but that's sprints problem.

Best Note 7 alternative

With the Note 7 dead in the water ([emoji22]), we now need to find a good replacement. I honestly don't think any phone currently competes with the Note but what are you guys thinking? I'm personally on Verizon so I want to find something that will work on vzw. From what I've seen so far the LG V20 and the Pixel are the best choices. I'm personally not crazy impressed with the Pixel though. What are your guys thoughts?

I am contemplating on keeping the phone and risk using it. If this can last me two years, I'd be happy.
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I love the phone but I can't keep it. They will drop all support and they just banned it from the Gear VR. Such a bad situation.
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Keeping it really is not an option for me...sad day. I love this phone. [emoji29]
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I wouldn't keep the phone, support from Samsung and 3rd party will be cut off and I doubt you'll see much development here on it either.
Pixel is completely overpriced and with no SD card it makes the price even more unacceptable to me.
The only phone that looks good at this point is the LG V20 with SD card support and removable battery.
However as far as a true replacement goes there really isn't an alternative. LG does have a stylus phone but spec wise it's outdated.
Let's just hope Samsung figures this thing out and restarts production under a new model 7.5 or 8.
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I would think Google would know better than to remove the SD card, it hurt Samsung when they did it. Really it makes no sense.
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LG V20 impressive Quad-DAC should be the choice for Audiophyles, but its screen is so-so and isn't water-resistant, a Dual Sim Version with an spare battery should be ideal for Frequent flyers.
Tied with LG V20 are S7-S7edge EXYNOS while a quite "old" this still has the best specifications of any other Android nowadays: including waterproof and performance (even better than SD821) and should have Android 7 soon, you should choose among this or the V20 if you want the best
Pixel XL is the Next option if you are a Native English spoken, and its due Google Assistant (only support English, later Hindi, much later german and Spanish), otherwise its an so-so flagship a little bit overpriced.

i will stand by samy....so S7 edge

V20 and pixel. But considering this is google's first phone... It might end up another note 7.. Maybe LG is the safer choice

I went to get s7e today and of course it's sold out for 50miles in all directions from me. This is getting worse and worse. I also heard that Apple is hitting Sammy with another $400 copying suit. At this point I hope they get steamrolled.. ?

I bought a LG G5 for less then half the cost of the note 7 and will use that awhile until the new phones come out and see if there are any issues.
Then next year I'll probably buy the S8+ (im guaranteeing the Note name is dead)
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