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Anyone here getting a Nexus 4?

$300 Unlocked
Qualcomm Snapdragon(TM) S4 Pro
2GB RAM
Android 4.2
Software from Google.
hell, when my contract with T Mobile expire on Jan I'll just drop them and get this baby.
LG made, kinda not excited, but for $300 this thing sounds like a steal. But comparing this with $600 for SGS 3 or Note II, the choice if obvious.
Edit: The lack of microSD sucks. But I can live with it (probably)

Hmm, I was hoping for an HTC One X+, but this sounds more exciting.

I looked at this- I would rather have a microSD slot, otherwise, it looks like fun. For the price, it's a fair consideration for a Nexus device. In full disclosure, I did just buy a Relay 4G- it's still unopened in the box.
However, I am planning on getting a Nexus 10, even without the microSD.

I thinking about it. For the Specs and that price its hard to past.
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Honestly it depends on how development for the Relay goes over the next 6 months lol.
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The developers at xda are awesome and I will still be a frequent visitor no matter what. But having a Nexus phone from Google might mean that I don't have to play with my phone to make it work anymore.
To be honest, I use my smartphone mostly to make phone calls (unbelievable, isn't it?) and read news.

Jep. I'm totally getting one.
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Yuuupp. I stopped using the keyboard on my G2 like a year ago cause it was too slow. No more moving parts for me.
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350 off contract is too good to turn down Imo. Gonna wait a few weeks for initial responses, but as long as those are good I am in.
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I plan on getting one in December when my ETF decreases, then jumping on Straight Talk!

I am getting one, can't wait !
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I'll be getting my wife and I one. Especially with the TMo subsidy. We're mid-contract on our Classic Plan anyway.

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I'll be getting my wife and I one. Especially with the TMo subsidy. We're mid-contract on our Classic Plan anyway.
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Man, why're you getting it on contract for $200 while off-contract it's only $350?
I am turning my Classic Plan to Value Plan, cost $20 less per month. That will pay for the price difference in 8 months and save me $250 over the next 2 years.

Does anyone know the downside of a non removable battery? People keep mentioning it as a problem but I don't get it.
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Does anyone know the downside of a non removable battery? People keep mentioning it as a problem but I don't get it.
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you can have more than one battery.... if its stuck in the fone once its flat its useless

Another negative about a non removable battery is if something is hanging your phone you can't pull the battery. I kind of like the looks of the phone but no sd card slot? Kinda odd. Coming up on my upgrade in december and I may have to go into tmobile and play with one and see about getting it so long as the mod community is there. Anyone here bought a phone off contract from google before? If so how was the experiance?
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There are two screws visible on the bottom of the casing, so although we haven't seen a full teardown yet, I get the feeling it's not going to be hard to replace the battery if necessary.
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Ill be gettin one the day it comes out. hopefully anyways. The vision is nice and have loved it. But when my gf has the one s and I can zip through anything on her phone without it slowing down and havin my tranformer prime to play with all the time just makes me use my phone for nothing when I used to use it for everything. I just want moar power!! G2 is still the best phone I've ever used thou
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I have come to accept the fact that the G3 is not coming. If I have to go without a physical keyboard then getting a Nexus device is the next best thing. That said, I can get this off contract, and if Tmobile gets a high end phone with a physical keyboard in a year or so I can get back on contract to get it.

alarmdude9 said:
Another negative about a non removable battery is if something is hanging your phone you can't pull the battery. I kind of like the looks of the phone but no sd card slot? Kinda odd. Coming up on my upgrade in december and I may have to go into tmobile and play with one and see about getting it so long as the mod community is there. Anyone here bought a phone off contract from google before? If so how was the experiance?
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You never need to do a battery pull. Read up on how to hard shut off devices without removable batteries (like all tablets).
Every single device I've ever bought has been off contract and buying from Google is just like any other. My Nexus 7 is great, but while my Samsung Galaxy S III isn't Google, I run the exact same rom on it as I do on my n7. It was also quicker/easier to root and install a custom rom on my sgs3, plus it has 80gb internal storage (16gb+64gb, am using 42gb of that space as of this post) vs the extremely limited space on my n7.
There are more accessories for the sgs3 than the n7 and development wise roughly the same roms (maybe more if you count touchwiz).
Granted my sgs3 on Android 4.1.2 has a bug my nexus 7 doesn't have (which doesn't affect me), but still those possibilities are important to consider.
I guess my point is that passing on a non Google device for a nexus really isn't that obvious (to me anyway). I have more storage, faster network speeds, a removable battery (multiple ones even), and greater accessory selection. I use the same rom for both devices and both are unlocked and off contract. However, and this is a big deal for some people, I paid probably $200 more for my sgs3 than I would for the nexus 4.
Always consider the potential developer community but more importantly consider the manufacturer and the phone itself. Personally I've never had a good experience with LG hardware in the past, so if I were considering the n4 I would have to see tests and testimonials of people using it in real world situations, but there are some things that scare me just from what's been put out there already.
How fragile is that glass back? The one on the Optimus G broke within days on a reviewer who babied his device and had no idea how it happened.
Can the wireless charging work with a case? I know all phones with inductive charging currently can't..
Lastly, how bad on the battery is that new screen of theirs? The Optimus G (same screen) got a lot of criticism for its bad battery life and excessive screen drain. Without the ability to swap batteries I can see it being a deal breaker for some.
Those are just my personal thoughts and opinions based on the 5 android devices I've owned though. Time will ultimately tell.
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[Q] Why isn't this phone taking off?

New to the whole android platform (addicted after buying nexus 7). I have a severely crippled AT&T iphone 4 (cracked screen, no wifi or gps). Looking between the s3/optimus g or nexus 4. This phone has the best specs on the market, possibly the best screen along with LTE and expandable memory. The nexus 4 section has almost 4 times as many posts as this. Why isn't this phone hyped up? People are still saying the s3 is a better phone than this. Is LG really that bad? I tested this phone out at best buy twice, it is awesome however the camera isn't all that amazing to me (will try again). I would like an unlocked boot-loader (who wouldn't) just for root access for a few of my apps and tethering... Otterbox already has a case for it I am ready to buy. However it seems this phone will be swept under the rug. I don't want to invest two years for a phone that has no support.
Am I the only one?

stigma.... Most at&t reps wouldn't have a clue if you walked into the store and asked what is the fastest phone you have... which runs Krait... What are MHL capable. sg3, pantech breeze, and Iphone, note, I those are the phones they keep selling.... It's gonna take some time.
LGOG Bam!

The previous user nailed it. If the s3 sells more, reps will push it even nor because it's a safe bet. It's why a lot of people have a hard time switching from iOS to Android. Sells people sell it and almost everyone has one.
It's hard to steer people in a new direction even I'd there is a better product sometimes. That's just capitalism for you. Although I wish this phone got more attention.. If it received half the affection the s3 gets, lg may listen to the petitions or we would have more devs working on the bootloader.
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Optimus G will be released in europe in 2013.
So nobody cares about this phone, in 2013 next generation of high-end-phones from samsung, htc,... will be released too. And then this one will be outdated directly at release...
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sturmtruppler said:
Optimus G will be released in europe in 2013.
So nobody cares about this phone, in 2013 next generation of high-end-phones from samsung, htc,... will be released too. And then this one will be outdated directly at release...
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I just went to at&t and the guy has never even heard of the phone. This is why this will fail

Why does it have to be popular. I like and that's all that matters.
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Why does it have to be popular. I like and that's all that matters.
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While I agree, if the phone is a big seller it will get more attention/support/updates/accessories.

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Why does it have to be popular. I like and that's all that matters.
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More popularity means more devs trying to crack the bootloader. It also means more petitions signed to get the bootloader unlocked. I'd say it's ask pretty important.
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Not everyone cares about it getting unlocked. I don't. Its a good phone without that. Yes it can be better but I know more people that don't care about rooting then I do that care. I think people are missing out on a great phone just because its locked down. I understand why a lot of people want it unlock but that will never choose my phone for me. It will be unlocked very soon. Its almost there now. I happy that it is but at the same time I don't care. Its the fastest phone I've ever owned whether it popular or not. But will more cases come out for it if it gets unlocked ? LG has to prove themselves first then the rest will come. Samsung was in the same boat for awhile, now look at them.
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I hate to sound like a spoil sport, but I've been down this road before with people wanting petitions for various reasons be it to unlock bout loaders, release ril or release certain drivers that would make Dev support better. Unfortunately it always fails. I hope the best for anybody that try's to promote development within the community, but my advice to anybody that Dev support is of highest importance is to either get a phone that is already well established within the community or get a nexus device. This is why I got a nexus device and I'm glad I did. Best move I ever made.
Once again Best of luck to anyone who promotes development in the community as that's what this is all about!

Y'all are right I work from AT&T and I see iPhone users return the S3 all the time simply because it's not the iPhone they recognize its capable of doing the same things but are not willing to adapt to the change... I've had the optimus and even when telling people it's better than the S3 they know about the S3 and rather take the sage route than try the cool phone I have... I will say however most of my co-workers are avid iPhone junkies and will reuse to believe anything is better than the iPhone... and their right from a usability stand point but from a functionality stand point android trumps every time... but it's all abt what people see on tv and hear abt from peers
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giant22000 said:
I hate to sound like a spoil sport, but I've been down this road before with people wanting petitions for various reasons be it to unlock bout loaders, release ril or release certain drivers that would make Dev support better. Unfortunately it always fails.
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Giant, I will refer you to the Amaze 4g forum, where after a barrage of inquiries and a petition, HTC finally released the WIFI / BT chipset drivers. MOST times it fails, but it can happen.
Now, to the question at hand. Not only is it correct that AT&T store folks by and large haven't a clue, but you'll find a good majority on this type of site treat anything put out by LG with extreme caution. Their support is miserable when it comes to software updates AND release of drivers etc... Many of us are hopeful, because of the N4 being an LG product on some level, that they'll wake up and smell the coffee, but I am not holding my breath.
It is a great handset, but I am a flash addict, and I've been down this road before. I still own a G2x that I've passed on to my daughter.

I have been debating whether to get the Nexus 4 16 gb ($359 CDN + $20 shipping + 5% tax = $400) or go with the Rogers Optimus G which is being offered $129 ($135 with tax) on a 3 year contract. That is a huge price difference.
The risk with choosing the Optimus G is that it never gets its bootloader unlocked and I'll always be stuck with an outdated, limited version of Android.
For this reason I've decided to go with the Nexus 4 even though the initial price is higher. If the Optimus G gets unlocked I can always sell the Nexus and recoup most of the expense. If the Optimus never gets unlocked, I'll be satisfied with my Nexus purchase and I'll even be able to sell it in a year when the next Nexus phone is released.

On the other hand: LTE+External SD

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On the other hand: LTE+External SD
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I agree. Lack of LTE is what killed the N4 for me and pushed me to the LGOG. If the OG bootloader never gets unlocked and Google get their wits about them and releases an LTE N4 in the future, I'd be happy to switch.

Wonder how the OGP selling

I think this is a great phone but I wonder how the sales are going so far? I hope LG isn't about to do like dell did with the streak. No advertising, No promotion, just kinda let it be a silent option. It would be a shame this really could be a best seller if they did like Samsung and let people know about it.
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I think this is a great phone but I wonder how the sales are going so far? I hope LG isn't about to do like dell did with the streak. No advertising, No promotion, just kinda let it be a silent option. It would be a shame this really could be a best seller if they did like Samsung and let people know about it.
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yeah...but sammy is #-1 in mobile phone....lg is a kind of little brother compare to sammy...less publicity....slow invalidity at first for newest device....going to lg for the first time with "OGP"....still not received yet!! have a galaxy note and love it....the way a see it for lg developement is....less support from developper...of course less software (like mobile odin) but with cwm it can do the job when come time to flashing rom.... its about the same kind of product idealogy...since they"re both korean compagny...
of course the g pro is far superior then the galaxy note2...have take the bet....time will tell if i"ll buy another lg or comeback to sammy???
selling are not too bad...http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/01/lg-celebrates-500k-optimus-g-pro-sales-in-its-home-country/...at the april first...500.000 device been sold.....but again compare to the galaxy note/note 2 these number are small....

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yeah...but sammy is #-1 in mobile phone....lg is a kind of little brother compare to sammy...less publicity....slow invalidity at first for newest device....going to lg for the first time with "OGP"....still not received yet!! have a galaxy note and love it....the way a see it for lg developement is....less support from developper...of course less software (like mobile odin) but with cwm it can do the job when come time to flashing rom.... its about the same kind of product idealogy...since they"re both korean compagny...
of course the g pro is far superior then the galaxy note2...have take the bet....time will tell if i"ll buy another lg or comeback to sammy???
selling are not too bad...http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/01/lg-celebrates-500k-optimus-g-pro-sales-in-its-home-country/...at the april first...500.000 device been sold.....but again compare to the galaxy note/note 2 these number are small....
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Yep I have to agree. If LG drops the ball then this will be my last LG phone. Why make a great product then not tell the world about it? That's a great way to fail.
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im about to switch to this phone from an LG Revolution which never took off... After playing with the Gpro and a note 2 side by side I definitely have settled on this device! I sincerely hope however support for it is better from LG then for the Revolution. My bet is it certainly will be since it is their top of the line device.

I've never seen a commercial from LG for their smartphones. Have seen commercials from carriers promoting the devices,but can't remember one from the manufacturer. Compare that to the Samsung commercials.
They still make nice phones. Hopefully we get an unlocked bootloader and some interesting development.
Given we can now root, freeze apps/debloat, and get things a la the qslide notifications fix, we're doing ok. You can use launchers and other available apps,etc to get some of the other changes you might want.

at&t told me its selling very well. they only had 1 left at the store i bought mine. i think once we get development it will increase to. the phone is much better than any other phone out there.

First time LG buyer here and I am really impressed with this phone. Been with apple since 08

This phone has gotten me curious. It has my dream specs for a phone. Too bad its not available outside the US.
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Availability is the key to this question. ATT only in the US was a stupid decision, IMHO, and so far I've only heard of Korea and India. One of the reviews i saw said that the ogpro is not considered a flagship phone by LG. Maybe that's why they're not super hyping it a la GS3 and GS4...

My first LG was the Nexus 4 and I loved the device. Build quality was awesome. The dev community was also the best. I went to this device because I liked the specs compared to my note2 I had. My wife now has it. But im very very very disapointed with no ROMS yet. NO Unlocked bootloader. S4 and HTC already have them.
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Availability is the key to this question. ATT only in the US was a stupid decision, IMHO, and so far I've only heard of Korea and India. One of the reviews i saw said that the ogpro is not considered a flagship phone by LG. Maybe that's why they're not super hyping it a la GS3 and GS4...
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I considered a GS4 or HTC ONE. Reason I said NO on the HTC ONE was screen size. I would of just kept my Nexus 4. Reason I said NO on the S4 was because they had the GPro in-stock.

I see LG ads for this phones on the sites I go to. And I've also seen AT&T ads for it as well on random sites. They are classing it against the Note 2 in the ads.
I just got mine today and I am already in love with this phone. I did notice some lag when I played beach buggy but then I realized I turned on the cpu control feature and once I switched it off everything was good to go.

I love the phone too. It plays shadowgun dead zone better than the one or the s4. I'm speaking from experience. Its surprising considering the screen size.
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I had to take my first one in to exchange it because of a dead pixel. The AT&T people didn't even realize they had it. It should have come out before the s4 or the One to gain any traction.
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I love this phone. Left apple for sg3, and this is my first LG phone. Its runs buttery smooth and is as fast as like greased lightning. So far so good!

they probably arnt selling well in the US because LG isnt really concentrating on the us market, thus only 1 carrier for the lgogpro. If anything probably the optimus g2 will have 3-4 carriers this fall

Ya, the Optimus G and the G2 coming later this year are the flagship models. G2 will supposedly use the Snapdragon 800, but then there's this rumor...
http://bgr.com/2013/05/07/sprint-optimus-g-pro-release-date/
Is this a OGPro, slightly redesigned to get around exclusivity? G2? Next Nexus?

Dear LG users, what do you think about the futur OGP developpement???
I'm thinking about switching my DesireZ for this optimus g pro. One of the most complete phone on the market.
But, I'm not so sure about the developpement . Other LG devices aren't the most supported...

Indications are that Sprint is going to get one this quarter LS980 so if that is true then we should hopefully see more accessories come along since it will be on (2) US carriers.

nthknd said:
I think this is a great phone but I wonder how the sales are going so far? I hope LG isn't about to do like dell did with the streak. No advertising, No promotion, just kinda let it be a silent option. It would be a shame this really could be a best seller if they did like Samsung and let people know about it.
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I agree completely. If LG would put a little marketing behind their phones I'm sure they'd sell a little better and thereby get more support from the dev community.
I am coming from a Note 2 and love this phone though I am about to die with not being able to apply a bunch of ROM. (I am really hoping for an advanced kernel to really stretch out the battery life.
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I'll add another voice to those concerned about the locked bootloader, and more generally, custom development. If there were a working version of Paranoid 3.15 on the OGP, I'd very quickly be $550 less wealthy.

I just bought this phone... loving it so far even in stock form! Just so powerful ans smooth.
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Is it worth buying?

I have an iPhone 5 I'm using as an Ipod and was looking to sell it. Was looking at tablets and was thinking nexus 7 2013, LG gpad 8.3 and the Samsung galaxy note 8.0. I liked the other one since they have. Bigger screens but their development is at a minimum while the nexus has a lot of roms and support. Is the hardware subpar as some would suggest? Is wifi connection a problem over time? Would just like to know what's really happening before I make my purchase. Thanks appreciate all input.
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naruto.ninjakid said:
I have an iPhone 5 I'm using as an Ipod and was looking to sell it. Was looking at tablets and was thinking nexus 7 2013, LG gpad 8.3 and the Samsung galaxy note 8.0. I liked the other one since they have. Bigger screens but their development is at a minimum while the nexus has a lot of roms and support. Is the hardware subpar as some would suggest? Is wifi connection a problem over time? Would just like to know what's really happening before I make my purchase. Thanks appreciate all input.
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Ive had mine for a week and loving it.
Coming from a 1st gen Kindle fire, this is much better. Kindle I would have to turn wifi off if not actively using it.
Here, I'm actually leaving wifi on 24/7 and also not even plugging it in at night.
Left it idling at work all day, lost about 9% battery. Went to sleep, woke up, 2% gone.
Actually just checked stats, 81%, Not charging
1d 6h 2m on battery. To me, thats good.
I even watched a whole 50min tv show and lost I think 2%.
I'm liking it. Only time I seen the battery go nuts and the device get hot was when I was with Google Earth.
So far no screen problems. I sometimes feel I had a tap on keyboard no detect, but when I tested in a multi touch tester, everything looks fine.
Plus I got mine on sale at staples, so $150, cant go wrong.

I'm wondering about the touch issues as well. Maybe I should just buy one at a big store so i can return it if I have any problems.
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I'm wondering about the touch issues as well. Maybe I should just buy one at a big store so i can return it if I have any problems.
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Touch issues is truly a hit-or-miss. Your device might have issues, as well as it might not. I had 2 devices (16gb which I returned for 32gb) which both had very mild touchscreen issues.

Get it! The display is just awesome (I've had no prob's) - ^ man $150 is a scream'n deal!

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Get it! The display is just awesome (I've had no prob's) - ^ man $150 is a scream'n deal!
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Lucked out. staples $229, microcenter price match to 199, then a 2day $50 off coupon.
They had no 32gb in stock. When I went to another that had it, I was too stressed to deal with an exchange.
Microcenter matched the 32 to 229, so with 50 off coupon could have been had for 179.

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Get it! The display is just awesome (I've had no prob's) - ^ man $150 is a scream'n deal!
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I am also planning to buy one. Is there any batch which has no problems? I use HTC one x and few had hardware WiFi problems. So august batch was perfect as HTC admitted the issue which i bought. Since with my budget this is the best tab I am kind of leaned towards it. But I can't have one which has any problem coz In my country there is no replacement warranty for nexus devices. Is there any way to check the batch number to get a perfect device?

what kind of support does Google give for devices with multi-touch issues. I really dont want to have to deal with that.

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what kind of support does Google give for devices with multi-touch issues. I really dont want to have to deal with that.
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Other than sending it back on your own dime? None.
Google doesn't have a physical store like Apple, which I sorely missed. Not to mention the almost ZERO support from Google on any issue, judging by the posting in Google product forum. I.e. multi touch, Wi-Fi, Google Now, etc.
This is why forum like XDA exist.
Disclaimer: I used to own Apple products, but has moved completely to Android because I like cracked apps.. sorry.. Customization.

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Other than sending it back on your own dime? None.
Google doesn't have a physical store like Apple, which I sorely missed. Not to mention the almost ZERO support from Google on any issue, judging by the posting in Google product forum. I.e. multi touch, Wi-Fi, Google Now, etc.
This is why forum like XDA exist.
Disclaimer: I used to own Apple products, but has moved completely to Android because I like cracked apps.. sorry.. Customization.
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Sorry if I am hijacking this thread to ask my questions here but do you feel the tablet functions lag-free, choppy and fault-free even without having to root the device? I mean, all I need the tablet to do is to function without any faults or lag, which I would appreciate I could accomplish without having to risk rooting the device which itself has caused issues for many.
Secondly, plenty seemingly report that updating the OS poses more and more problems for them so would you suggest sticking to the same OS that the tablet runs out of the box instead of updating it anytime?
Finally, there's no Google or Apple store in the country where I reside. Would you suggest buying this or Apple iPad (3rd Generation) keeping in view the chances of hardware/software failures of the two tablets. If there are any other suggestions you might wanna make, please go ahead.
Thanks in advance.

Yeah this tablet has to many problems in my opinion. All these issues and Amazon reviews list so many problems or others report that after a while everything starts breaking down. Just because it's cheap doesn't mean quality control and build quality should be so bad. I'm going to go with LG gpad 8.3. Rock solid build and pretty great performance and features. Was $350 but this weekend price dropped to about $270. Yes you may not get those updates fast or even ever but it seems like updates are hurting the nexus 7 anyway from all the reports i read. Google is really dropping the ball.
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Other than sending it back on your own dime? None.
Google doesn't have a physical store like Apple, which I sorely missed. Not to mention the almost ZERO support from Google on any issue, judging by the posting in Google product forum. I.e. multi touch, Wi-Fi, Google Now, etc.
This is why forum like XDA exist.
Disclaimer: I used to own Apple products, but has moved completely to Android because I like cracked apps.. sorry.. Customization.
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This is horrible Google should support their product
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naruto.ninjakid said:
Yeah this tablet has to many problems in my opinion. All these issues and Amazon reviews list so many problems or others report that after a while everything starts breaking down. Just because it's cheap doesn't mean quality control and build quality should be so bad. I'm going to go with LG gpad 8.3. Rock solid build and pretty great performance and features. Was $350 but this weekend price dropped to about $270. Yes you may not get those updates fast or even ever but it seems like updates are hurting the nexus 7 anyway from all the reports i read. Google is really dropping the ball.
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I suppose you are right, especially considering there are so many genuine issues riding the device and there is no support in my country form Google AT ALL. Thanks so much for introducing me to the LG G Pad 8.3; I had no knowledge of that one. Seems nice but I was beginning to consider SONY Xperia Z Tab but after some research, I discovered that that tab had issues of its own including genuine lag on the tablet.
I guess LG G Pad 8.3 is my best bet right now. Can you recommend some place that ships internationally and is actually reliable and offers the best price on the LG G Pad 8.3 INCLUDING where you might be getting it from? I did stumble upon newegg's latest offering here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834325004
I was wondering if you'd recommend this or someplace else.
I would be glad to hear from you soon.
Thanks.

LG G PAd is a great compared to Nexus 7 (2013) and its ISsues
WranglerHuss said:
I suppose you are right, especially considering there are so many genuine issues riding the device and there is no support in my country form Google AT ALL. Thanks so much for introducing me to the LG G Pad 8.3; I had no knowledge of that one. Seems nice but I was beginning to consider SONY Xperia Z Tab but after some research, I discovered that that tab had issues of its own including genuine lag on the tablet.
I guess LG G Pad 8.3 is my best bet right now. Can you recommend some place that ships internationally and is actually reliable and offers the best price on the LG G Pad 8.3 INCLUDING where you might be getting it from? I did stumble upon newegg's latest offering here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834325004
I was wondering if you'd recommend this or someplace else.
I would be glad to hear from you soon.
Thanks.
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It's really sad what Google is doing to their products. They need to drop ASUS because their quality is really low. Yeah the LG G Pad is looking really good to me right now. Sorry I live in the US so I don't know much about international Shipping. Currently New egg has the best deals on this tablet so you can shop around on their. Haven't seen any better deals Yet. Let me know how tit works for you. And yes I also discovered about the G Pad browsing the forums. Before I purchase a device I do extensive research On it. Many have complained about the nexus 7 2013's quality and hardware problems and in Comparison LG has very little. In fact I believe its because no ones knows abut the LG Tab yet so its not widely Known. Its a really good deal in my honest opinion. Great hardware and software. I compared to the Note 8.0 and Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 and 7.0 but the Samsung's seems really inferior at this point. Low screen density and Slow processors. I guess to each his own however, some people just like touch wiz. In Fact I have a Note 2 and in Terms of phones i prefer Samsung but their tablets or at last the small ones are really lagging behind right now.

ugh just ordered 2 of these ......crap

CRAP!! I just ordered 2 lg g5's for sprint because best buy is offering them at $5 a month for 24 months or after activation $150 with no contract change. I have the g3. And love fulmics. Never even thought root would be an issue but the g5 on sprint cant be rooted? I just learned that. CRAP CRAP CRAP!!! Stupid sprint! Stupid Lg.....stupid me. Crap

loopytee said:
CRAP!! I just ordered 2 lg g5's for sprint because best buy is offering them at $5 a month for 24 months or after activation $150 with no contract change. I have the g3. And love fulmics. Never even thought root would be an issue but the g5 on sprint cant be rooted? I just learned that. CRAP CRAP CRAP!!! Stupid sprint! Stupid Lg.....stupid me. Crap
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lol, do you wish to sell ?

30 day return policy, right?

It's not the end of the world. It's a great phone without root. I haven't been able to say that about a lot of phones

I got lucky and somehow the order got messed up and best buy canceled it before they shipped out.

Yeah I got my G5 about a month ago. I've rooted every phone I have had prior to this one. However, I have had no need to root this phone as it seems to do all I need without root. I came from a Galaxy S4, so this is like going from a Prius to a Porsche.
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Good phone (minus GPS, getting hot and power button) while it lasts. 9 months mine boot loops.
Luckily I only paid 1$ for it with the last of the 2 year upgrade plans. But the wife has the one with 5$ a month offer...doubt it will make it to the 2 year mark though. There is word out the g6 has same bootloops issues too.
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adu1982 said:
Good phone (minus GPS, getting hot and power button) while it lasts. 9 months mine boot loops.
Luckily I only paid 1$ for it with the last of the 2 year upgrade plans. But the wife has the one with 5$ a month offer...doubt it will make it to the 2 year mark though. There is word out the g6 has same bootloops issues too.
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Does yours have a physical problem that's causing it to bootloop or a software problem? A phone here or there with an issue is not evidence of a G4-style bootloop epidemic, and I've only seen a handful of reports of G6s bootlooping without much explanation of whether it's a hardware or software issue. I've seen a bunch of people pointing to that expansion of the G4/V10 class action to include the G5/V20 as evidence of G5 bootloops but no actual evidence that that's anything more than lawyers casting a wider net to bulk up their own payday.

I am a ups driver so I am outside a lot with the phone in my packet. As a side interest I am going for computer infotech bachelor. My personal opinion is that many will have my same problem and it is a hardware based problem from getting hot. I've seen YouTube videos where reheating the CPU (do a disconnect between CPU and board) is the issue. Mine lasted 10 months so built wise is better than the lg g4 BUT I have a tsrong feeling that as they time will pass a bit many will have this problem. The GPS issue and rear button is well known and that is from build quality too...we know that by now for a fact.. the bootloops will surface too.
I plan to try the Mobo/CPU fix and then play with it since selling it as a broken phone has no value really.
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