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[Q] GSIII or Nexus 4?

So, for the past while now I have been looking for a replacement phone for my G2 (which sadly now has a broken screen, I have been using screencast to operate the phone for weeks now. However I can still answer the phone normally when called without the need for a computer system thanks to easy memory.)
Since my upgrade is already available I do not know if I should try to get the GSIII or the LG Nexus 4 (god willing if it actually comes to T-Mobile). I want a phone that will last the time needed for me between now and my next upgrade in 2 years. (I am not fortunate enough to buy off contract, if I did this would be entirely irrelevant.) While the GSIII offers the popular end and will probably get the best AOSP for a damn good long time, I also find a great appeal over the LG Nexus 4 being able to get stock updates on the fly upon release, while I would still consider AOSP for the Nexus 4 because of the added options as well.
Basically it comes down between the two and what is the best choice when it comes right down to quality + support + longevity over the next 2 years. I know a lot can happen within that timeframe, but I do not want to be forgotten so soon like I was with the G2. Plus I want to be able to have an absolutely wonderful experience with customization with little limitations.
I know its foolish to consider the Nexus 4 considering that its not officially out yet nor do we know it will be offered by T-Mobile US. I also know that even with a top of the line phone there will always be something better around the corner that will topple mine. Finally I know that the focus of the AOSP community will shift on to other projects while whichever one I choose now will not remain the prime focus forever.
I just want a phone that will get me as far as I can between my 2 year cycle. Growing with a "pure" experience with the G2, soon followed by AOSP and after that AOKP. I want to be able to get the same (or hopefully, MUCH BETTER) experience out of that, I have no problem rooting (hell I remember the days when the G2 was damn near "impossible" to root) and if anything I would probably end up rooting my phone as soon as I get it in my hands.
The only limitations right now between these two and me is my patience, and the luck that the Nx4 will come out on T-Mobile. Again, with my current situation with my G2 I do not have much time left to decide. I have been waiting long enough and with most of the information we have on both of these devices that I am looking at I think it can be time to consider which one I rather get.
So which one should I consider getting? Should I try waiting out longer for the Nexus 4 or should I go for the GSIII now?

I'll read fully next time. But for now no, LG has the worst reputation in tge cell phone industry if you ask me and alot of other LG users.
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I seriously never get it whats the point of asking some strangers what phone should i get lol...it is widely known that lg sucks sony sucks htc is good but not dev friendly so the only choice left for me would be sammy

The nexus 4 won't even come to T-Mobile. There, problem solved.
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I still have a working g2. Loving the sgs3
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I never buy on contract. I also never buy a new phone. I bought a slightly used SGS3 for $350 on craigslist. A year from now, I'll sell it for $200 and buy the SGS4 (or whatever I'm interested in at the time). Saves a lot over the life of the phone. $20/month cheaper for the plan, $240/year savings, and I'm only putting out $150 for a phone every year. So I get a new slightly used phone every year and still save money.
Look for a decent SGS3 on craigslist and buy it.

While I am aware that the history with LG has been mixed (and shall I say down right horrible with T-Mobile) The most of the issues resided over software and not hardware. Plus since the LG nexus 4 is a nexus device it should be obvious that it will be Google handling the updates, not LG nor T-Mobile.
That said I have done some personal analysis on both and came to the conclusion that while the LG Nexus 4 does seem attractive in both what is on board and the software distribution, the GSIII will probably have the higher end of LTS for some time. Even if the GSIV would to come out sometime next year the GSIII would still get popular support regardless due to the many people who own one and are locked with one until their contract is up. Plus The GSIII has no signs of slowing down even with the Note II on the rise. If another nexus handset would come out the LTS for it would be a gamble depending if people will take to the Nexus 4 with open arms compared to the previous devices. Not only that but even in accessory appeal as well the GSIII outdoes the Nexus brand as a whole.
I was considering the Nexus 4 because of its Quadcore processor and pure google experience on the fly. Even with all that updated more so than the SIII, however the SIII will win in the end with better support thanks to its incredibly large community.
I think I will go for the GSIII now! Tell me, before this thread becomes entirely useless can someone tell me which best route I should go when I get this? I am not one for skinned UI, I can get used to it but I prefer to not deal with bloat and lag when I can get the most out of this device.

Nexus won't have bloat, but there is no lag in the s3 with stock.
I was in the exact same position, minus the broken screen, and I decided to pick up the galaxy s 3 for now and see what the new nexus has to offer when it gets here. I figure I can sell the gs3 pretty easily if I really want the nexus, and if not, I still have a great phone.
I can only tell you that I'm extremely happy with my gs3 but I continue to keep an eye on nexus rumors.
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I should not I am running cyanogen because I couldn't stand touchwiz.

The Unnamed Time Lord said:
While I am aware that the history with LG has been mixed (and shall I say down right horrible with T-Mobile) The most of the issues resided over software and not hardware. Plus since the LG nexus 4 is a nexus device it should be obvious that it will be Google handling the updates, not LG nor T-Mobile.
That said I have done some personal analysis on both and came to the conclusion that while the LG Nexus 4 does seem attractive in both what is on board and the software distribution, the GSIII will probably have the higher end of LTS for some time. Even if the GSIV would to come out sometime next year the GSIII would still get popular support regardless due to the many people who own one and are locked with one until their contract is up. Plus The GSIII has no signs of slowing down even with the Note II on the rise. If another nexus handset would come out the LTS for it would be a gamble depending if people will take to the Nexus 4 with open arms compared to the previous devices. Not only that but even in accessory appeal as well the GSIII outdoes the Nexus brand as a whole.
I was considering the Nexus 4 because of its Quadcore processor and pure google experience on the fly. Even with all that updated more so than the SIII, however the SIII will win in the end with better support thanks to its incredibly large community.
I think I will go for the GSIII now! Tell me, before this thread becomes entirely useless can someone tell me which best route I should go when I get this? I am not one for skinned UI, I can get used to it but I prefer to not deal with bloat and lag when I can get the most out of this device.
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I think it is foolish to think the Nexus 4 may not have a large developer community.

The next Nexus is pretty much guaranteed to have large dev support. The device itself may be made by LG, but everything software wise is handled through Google so there's no issue there and with a large developer community you'll have AOSP options as CM, AOKP, etc. If you're worried about hardware defects (every phone has a few, it's just a matter of getting lucky and getting the one with the least amount of defects) then wait a couple weeks to see what people say such as the display having issues, dust getting inside the screen, etc. The phone specs itself already beats the S3 in every way, but I'm pretty sure it'll be Google handling sales directly again with the GSM model so if you're looking to renew your contract to get the phone cheaper, the S3 is pretty much your best choice

Wait for the note 2
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colorado_al said:
I never buy on contract. I also never buy a new phone. I bought a slightly used SGS3 for $350 on craigslist. A year from now, I'll sell it for $200 and buy the SGS4 (or whatever I'm interested in at the time). Saves a lot over the life of the phone. $20/month cheaper for the plan, $240/year savings, and I'm only putting out $150 for a phone every year. So I get a new slightly used phone every year and still save money.
Look for a decent SGS3 on craigslist and buy it.
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Brilliant plan.
As for OP, I wouldn't be so faithful in the Nexus 4 coming to T-mobile.
From your story, it seems that you need a working phone right now.
I'd just go with the SGSIII, the community behind it is very strong.
Use CM10 to get the stock experience, the CyanogenMod team is very good with updates.
However, if the rumors turn out be be true, the possibility of multiple Nexus devices means that one can be a T-mobile variant.
I'd wait for the official Google announcement when they have their event on October 29th.
The Galaxy Nexus will probably be getting a price cut sometime soon. It seems like a worthwhile update to me.

khoikn said:
Brilliant plan.
As for OP, I wouldn't be so faithful in the Nexus 4 coming to T-mobile.
From your story, it seems that you need a working phone right now.
I'd just go with the SGSIII, the community behind it is very strong.
Use CM10 to get the stock experience, the CyanogenMod team is very good with updates.
However, if the rumors turn out be be true, the possibility of multiple Nexus devices means that one can be a T-mobile variant.
I'd wait for the official Google announcement when they have their event on October 29th.
The Galaxy Nexus will probably be getting a price cut sometime soon. It seems like a worthwhile update to me.
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There won't be multiple nexus phones.
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I think LG's reputation is a little skewed IMO. At the same time only LG has themselves to blame for on that one. But let's think of why LG has a bad rep fist before we completely count out the LG Nexus 4. Basically they have a bad rep because of their failure to provide the necessary drivers for devs (ala G2x) or just plain out suck at updating their devices.
But their quality on their devices is very very good. I had a G2x and the build quality of that phone was outstanding IMO. The screen was great, the over all build was nice and I loved everything about it. Only thing that sucked balls was it's software and bad updates.
So now if you combine LG's good build quality plus Google handling the software side? I think it's a win win situation!
So to the OP, it really depends if you wanna wait or not. I have a Galaxy Nexus and I'm loving owning a Nexus, the fact that I get updates right on the spot and on time is awesome. So I'll say to wait for the LG Nexus, but if you can't wait, the SIII is perfectly fine as well.
Good luck dude.

Almost in the same boat as you,
still doubting between S3 and the Note 2,
For me the nexus isn't interesting because the battery is not replaceable and no storage cards.
The only thing keeping me from saying not 2 for sure is that the phone is rather big

Non removable battery on the nexus is a deal killer. I've pulled the battery 100 times on every phone I've ever had. Helpful when you get a boot loop flashing eye candy
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Karakoram2 said:
Non removable battery on the nexus is a deal killer. I've pulled the battery 100 times on every phone I've ever had. Helpful when you get a boot loop flashing eye candy
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If in boot loop I'm almost positive you just hold the power button wait for a vibrate then hold button combo to boot into recovery. Used to do it on past phones, sure it works on this phone even, just don't get boot loops is another way to avoid that dilemma.
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Nexus 4 anyone?

Anyone considering selling their t989 and switching to the Nexus 4? With the N4 only $300, and our phones still going for $250-$300 on eBay, I see no reason not to.

I am, I don't like this phone. Not sure if I am taking that route though. I can't even get it to sell on Craigslist. Mines perfect condition, no scratches anywhere not even on the screen and kept in the D30 case. :/ oh well, any Nexus sure beats this phone.

I have mine listed on Ebay right now actually at 260 and it has a bid. Includes case and 8 gig card. I'll be happy to shell out roughly 100 extra for the 16GB nexus 4 after it sells. I didn't think to Sim unlock mine, but seems like the Sim unlocked ones are selling for a bit more if you're planning on listing it.
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I'm counting the days will the 13th

Wifi calling wont work on the N4 for those of us that need it
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noodles2224 said:
I am, I don't like this phone. Not sure if I am taking that route though. I can't even get it to sell on Craigslist. Mines perfect condition, no scratches anywhere not even on the screen and kept in the D30 case. :/ oh well, any Nexus sure beats this phone.
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Enjoy that whompign 16 gigs of storage and no sd slot.
Im waiting for the One X+ to hit my carrier personally.

I really dont think its a big upgrade or a upgrade at all the only thing that makes it a advantage is having 4.2 now thats all and well be getting 4.2 roms soon and i dont like it has no sd card slot on n4

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I really dont think its a big upgrade or a upgrade at all the only thing that makes it a advantage is having 4.2 now thats all and well be getting 4.2 roms soon and i dont like it has no sd card slot on n4
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Agreed that I won't be noticing that big of an upgrade, but no offense to the Devs for this device, generally nexus phones have tons more support in development.
I've had this phone since launch and this phone and the Devs just keeps getting better and better. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
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Funny you brought this up,
I used to own a HTC Sensation 4G. I got it for $180 and it was only 2 month old. I used it for 4 months and realized a few issues with it.
1. Sense sucks (I hate it and Sense on the Sensation is buggy)
2. Getting it S-OFF is difficult and I almost bricked it attempting so I never tried it again.
3. Charger is in a dumb place (on left side of phone)
4. HTC would not confirm a Jellybean update (made me feel like it wasn't getting it)
So I decided to part with it. I always wanted a Nexus for the stock Google experience. I wanted a LG Nexus 4 but didn;t want to wait nor pay $300+ for a phone with no expandable memory. But one day I was browsing craigslist hoping to find a used Galaxy Nexus ( Hard to find in my area ) and I found a guy selling a S2. He had it listed for $300 new in box. I thought to myself "That's not a bad deal since T-mobile wants $450 retail". So I set up a meeting with the guy. The phone was used but hardly. No scratches and all the wrapping on it minus the screen protector. It was a 9.9/10 only because it had been used. So I low balled the guy hardcore offering him $200 cash. HE TOOK IT! So now I own a Clean ESN, still under warranty, like brand new, Galaxy S2. I am glad I made this decision.:laugh: And plus Samsung already confired it would get Jellybean. I am happy

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Wifi calling wont work on the N4 for those of us that need it
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That's strange really cuz I use SKYPE on my n7. We must be able to get wifi calling working too...
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I'm seriously thinking about the Nexus 4. I love the pure Android N7, which increases my temptation (makes me want an N10 too!). The lack of TMO wi-fi calling is a problem though, as I live behind a bit of granite, so my call reception sucks at home. I work from home and my mobile is my primary work phone. Gotta be able to make and receive calls.
I've just been looking at cell signal boosters and what S2s & MyTouch 4Gs are going for on eBay. Might pass the S2 to my daughter and sell her crappy MT4G. Then I'll probably switch to a TMO Value Plan and save some monthly $$. I think I'm going to try a cell booster this week. If that works, I'll probably go for the N4 one way or another.

I'm dumping this t989 asap. I can still sell it for 200-300 beans easy. The Nexus 4 is an upgrade in evey conceivable way. I sold my Nexus S 4g for this phone and I regret it. Can't wait to be aboard the Nexus train again. It's gonna be a great ride.
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Well might as well put my two cents in on this. as i spent today thinking about selling my phone on ebay and buying it as well. But then i realized alot of things about the phone that i dislike that i never knew until i dug deeper. Just a few things, that helped me in my final decision to wait till official jelly bean for sgs2. It will improve our phone quite a bit i believe.
1. no wifi calling, other then some free app that gives you a different phone number... worthless in my eyes.
2. the battery isn't removable, so when the battery dies so does your phone.
3. the glass backing is extreme fragile one slight drop and its cracked, front is durable.
4. heard poor battery performance, i know this is still debatable (firmware, usage) but, with no option to switch it out... risky.
5. washy colors on the display, even tho the resolution is very great.
6. no sd card expansion, i mean who are you apple?

spikey68 said:
That's strange really cuz I use SKYPE on my n7. We must be able to get wifi calling working too...
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Skype and wifi calling are way different...
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The nexus 4 looks like a great phone and the price is right too.. But no expandable storage is a downer..looks like another nexus phone that I won't be buying

My Galaxy S II is up on eBay now as well. I loved the phone for the year I had it (longest I've ever kept any phone) and it's even more awesome now that I put CM10 on it, but I'm going Nexus only from now on. Can't beat that $350 price tag. While I would prefer a 32GB version, I've never gotten close to using 16GB on any of my phones.
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RushAOZ said:
I'm dumping this t989 asap. I can still sell it for 200-300 beans easy. The Nexus 4 is an upgrade in evey conceivable way. I sold my Nexus S 4g for this phone and I regret it. Can't wait to be aboard the Nexus train again. It's gonna be a great ride.
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Yup same here.
I think everyone who goes from a Nexus device to one that's locked down with carrier bloat ends up regretting that decision.
It'll be amazing getting updates as soon as they're out again. Not to mention the crazy dev support it'll have. This phone will make a great paperweight/desk ornament or backup in case I break another phone, lol.
Rekzer said:
Enjoy that whompign 16 gigs of storage and no sd slot.
Im waiting for the One X+ to hit my carrier personally.
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The lack of an SD slot isn't an issue for me. All my music is on GMusic, and I don't really store anything on my phone but ROMs and ROM related things... so 16GB will be plenty. What does everyone store on their phones that needs so much space anyway? Even if I wanted to store my entire music collection, that's 150GB+... cloud storage sort of gets rid of the need for that. With 16GB, you can even store a few seasons of TV shows... so again, what are you guys doing with your phones? Torrenting?

Already sold mine for 250 on craigslist.can't wait for the 13th. Tho im stuck using this mytouch till then
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the N4 loos really nice. but I think since I will be sticking with t-mobile (especially since it was working fine during and after Sandy), I rather go with the Galaxy Note 2 as it will be good for at least 1 year and not to mention the software can be upgraded to use the tmobile LTE when it goes live.

DigitaL BlisS said:
Yup same here.
I think everyone who goes from a Nexus device to one that's locked down with carrier bloat ends up regretting that decision.
It'll be amazing getting updates as soon as they're out again. Not to mention the crazy dev support it'll have. This phone will make a great paperweight/desk ornament or backup in case I break another phone, lol.
The lack of an SD slot isn't an issue for me. All my music is on GMusic, and I don't really store anything on my phone but ROMs and ROM related things... so 16GB will be plenty. What does everyone store on their phones that needs so much space anyway? Even if I wanted to store my entire music collection, that's 150GB+... cloud storage sort of gets rid of the need for that. With 16GB, you can even store a few seasons of TV shows... so again, what are you guys doing with your phones? Torrenting?
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I guess the price of the nexus justifies the lack of SD...but i store alot of music/work stuff on my phone. A nandroid backup is 2 gigs on its own.
I could probably get by on a nexus 4, my carrier(telus) is dead silent about it though, and theyre CDMA...so i dont even think I can buy one for telus from google.

Any VZW GNex owners getting Droid DNA

Just wonder if there are any other Verizon subscribers looking to get the Droid DNA. I know I am. 1080 screen, 2gb RAM, quad core, better camera - SOLD

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Just wonder if there are any other Verizon subscribers looking to get the Droid DNA. I know I am. 1080 screen, 2gb RAM, quad core, better camera - SOLD
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Depends. If it has an unlockable bootloader through HTC's dev program, it's on my radar. If not, nope - no hardware in the world can make me use Sense and not get updates from Google.
Also, since I just got my VZW Gnex at launch last year, the phone would cost me $600 out of pocket - so it very well could be cheaper to get a Nexus 4, pay my ETF fee, and go to T-mobile with their $30 / mo plan.
Or.. I'll just tolerate my not-a-nexus for another year. We'll see.

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Depends. If it has an unlockable bootloader through HTC's dev program, it's on my radar. If not, nope - no hardware in the world can make me use Sense and not get updates from Google.
Also, since I just got my VZW Gnex at launch last year, the phone would cost me $600 out of pocket - so it very well could be cheaper to get a Nexus 4, pay my ETF fee, and go to T-mobile with their $30 / mo plan.
Or.. I'll just tolerate my not-a-nexus for another year. We'll see.
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You know, I didnt even think about the bootloader. I'll have to check back in on that. I don't care if its factory locked so long as Devs can work around it.
I too have to figure out how to overcome not being eligible, but where there is a will there is a way. Figured it out before and I'll figure it out again.
But yeah, sense, it's a bit outdated anymore

If I can afford to stay on Verizon I'm totally getting one.
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Actually looks good, and I do like HTC. However, I really don't need a bigger phone and the battery is a little small for the size of screen and processor. Sadly with Verizon's new pricing I will likely be going to sprint or T-Mobile. I can't afford another $40 a month ($960) for less data than I use now AND pay $200 for an on contract phone. I love their 4g, but that is just ridiculous.
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If I can afford to stay on Verizon I'm totally getting one.
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Deadmau5!!! Love the sig, seen him 5x I believe. Great artist, but not the best to see live IMHO. Sorry for the interruption, back to your regularly scheduled program

Looked at it, and it is nice, but it's just so hard to think about leaving AOSP. I still love my nexus and will probably hold onto it until it stops being supported lol.
And Deadmau5...:thumbdown: Lol. Its the same 45 seconds looped over for 4 minutes lol. ALL OF HIS SONGS. Ahhh there's so much better music in the genre.

I was seriously considering getting one because I have an upgrade on my plan and I'm getting antsy after a year haha. But then I saw the battery is only 2050mah for a 5" 1080p quadcore phone. Its battery is most likely going to be horrific. Now I'm either considering the Galaxy S3 or just waiting until after the holidays and seeing what new phones come.

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And Deadmau5...:thumbdown: Lol. Its the same 45 seconds looped over for 4 minutes lol. ALL OF HIS SONGS. Ahhh there's so much better music in the genre.
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Agreed for his shows, his transitions are waaaay too long and boring. Disagree for songs in general. He is one of the few with amazing musical talent compared to some who throw $hit at the wall and see what sticks. Have you heard Strobe? One of my all time favs
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I was seriously considering getting one because I have an upgrade on my plan and I'm getting antsy after a year haha. But then I saw the battery is only 2050mah for a 5" 1080p quadcore phone. Its battery is most likely going to be horrific. Now I'm either considering the Galaxy S3 or just waiting until after the holidays and seeing what new phones come.
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Yeah, good point. I had the Thunderbolt and boy was that a battery hog. And at least it had a removable battery. Maybe I should see what the first wave of people have to say.

Suddenly a wild mau5thread appears.
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Even if the DNA has an unlockable bootloader, I would still be leaning towards the Galaxy Note II.
+1 for Deadmau5

If I'm not mistaken, the DNA does not have removable storage and only has about 11gb of usable space. That will be a big turn off for folks who enjoy having multiple roms, music and such. That's a shame that a phone with such good specs and hardware would be handicapped with out removable storage.

Just saw that the DNA is coming with the amazon ecosystem integrated. I'm guessing it's gong to be like a kindle phone now. Huge pass!
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16GB of storage and no SD slot is way too small for me. I'll wait til the next nexus.

Sorry for off topic, but Strobe is like THE only exception. Even though it is sooooo old and played out lol. Listen to Moar Ghosts n Stuff. Take the first 45 seconds of the song. Loop it. Now compare to how he released it. If you loop at the right time, it's exactly the same. XD. Same can be said for 99% of his songs. Seriously, have a listen. Idk lol to me Deadmau5 is the Apple of the electronic music world. In the sense that it's ALWAYS the EXACT same thing over & over. Nothing changes, just a tweak here and there. Like Apple, he had a good run back in the day, but there are currently much, much better options. Besides, I thought only 15 year old sluts rolling on molly listened to deadmau5..?
Oh and I didn't realize the storage was so low. Definitely not getting it now. I'll just keep this then.

A year old phone can't be my best option, can it?

Howdy! Thunderturd user here with a January upgrade, looking for advice.
I've come to the conclusion that Verizon's ROM update system is crippling. My formerly flagship phone is running Twisted's cobbled together ICS ROM a year after its official release. This makes me want to take hostages.
It seems the only solution is to get my junk straight from the source. So I want a Nexus, but I've got a few problems with the new one.
1. Battery. I need a removable one.
2. SD card. I've got 20+ gigs of music on my current craptacular device.
3. I have to come out of pocket for the full amount of the phone. I want Verizon to take a hit on this. If I'm paying the full monthly price, I want them to bleed on the hardware.
So talk to me about your phone. I'm thinking about rocking a Galaxy Nexus until Google puts out something more practical than the 4 and selling my upgrade on ebay.
Any flaws in my thinking?

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Howdy! Thunderturd user here with a January upgrade, looking for advice.
I've come to the conclusion that Verizon's ROM update system is crippling. My formerly flagship phone is running Twisted's cobbled together ICS ROM a year after its official release. This makes me want to take hostages.
It seems the only solution is to get my junk straight from the source. So I want a Nexus, but I've got a few problems with the new one.
1. Battery. I need a removable one.
2. SD card. I've got 20+ gigs of music on my current craptacular device.
3. I have to come out of pocket for the full amount of the phone. I want Verizon to take a hit on this. If I'm paying the full monthly price, I want them to bleed on the hardware.
So talk to me about your phone. I'm thinking about rocking a Galaxy Nexus until Google puts out something more practical than the 4 and selling my upgrade on ebay.
Any flaws in my thinking?
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The gnex is an absolutely fantastic phone. Removable battery, extended oem batteries available (with NFC capability), 32gb on the VZW version, google play music cloud storage, excellent developer support, good accessories, nice screen, quality camera and skimmed down, speeded up android. I'm rocking a 16gb gsm gnex straight from the play store and I absolutely adore it. Bought it 1 month before the Nexus 4 dropped and I have no regrets. LG has been terrible to me and I personally think in terms of overall usability, the gnex trumps the 4.
The gnex, like I said, has excellent developer support and have been experimented with for over a year. We have this device figured out here in these forums and it can do everything you want it to do.
I say pull the trigger with a gnex. Granted it doesn't have the sd card slot, but there are ways around that.
Good luck

If the SD card is a must you shouldn't even be here. Go with the S3 or Note 2.
I'm looking at the prices on the VZW website and I think you should go with Amazon if you want to spend less on an upgrade. VZW is gouging the hell out of you. 50 bucks on contract for a pre-owned Gnex? 100 bucks for a new one? Gimme a break. I can find one for 200 bucks now and 250 in great condition.

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Howdy! Thunderturd user here with a January upgrade, looking for advice.
I've come to the conclusion that Verizon's ROM update system is crippling. My formerly flagship phone is running Twisted's cobbled together ICS ROM a year after its official release. This makes me want to take hostages.
It seems the only solution is to get my junk straight from the source. So I want a Nexus, but I've got a few problems with the new one.
1. Battery. I need a removable one.
2. SD card. I've got 20+ gigs of music on my current craptacular device.
3. I have to come out of pocket for the full amount of the phone. I want Verizon to take a hit on this. If I'm paying the full monthly price, I want them to bleed on the hardware.
So talk to me about your phone. I'm thinking about rocking a Galaxy Nexus until Google puts out something more practical than the 4 and selling my upgrade on ebay.
Any flaws in my thinking?
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gnex is a great choice.. i guess the main issue for you would be no sdcard but verizon has a 32gb version that you could get

Sprint also comes with 32GB version & ext. battery available for just the cost of shipping (see amazon wireless for good deal now)!

DrunkUncas said:
3. I have to come out of pocket for the full amount of the phone. I want Verizon to take a hit on this. If I'm paying the full monthly price, I want them to bleed on the hardware.
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i find this requirement insanely funny.
verizon doesnt take a hit on the hardware cost. its factored into their plan prices. if you think them discounting the phone alot hurts them, you are delusional

A Nexus phone is always worth it IMO.
-Sent from Marino's Galaxy Nexus-

Honestly I would go with one thats for sale used on swappa.com . There is one *cough* *cough* in Mint condition for $235 thats the 32GB and it is a refurb VZW sent, so it is the same as if you bought it straight from VZW right now except with 32GB memory.
I too had a TurdBolt and I couldnt stand it. The Galaxy Nexus is a spectacular device for whats around today. If your buying off contract right now I would stay away from a S3 or NoteII unless you have $600 to throw away.

In the lines of 2nd poster:
Gnex big storage capability = OTG
And for us, early adopters, it has been a landmark device; it will keep serving us well, OS-wise, for at least 2 more major versions.
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Get the GNex. It's a great device even if stuck on Verizon's reliable yet ever so slow update network. I'll be jumping ship when my contract expires in another year, but for now it's a great device and will be for the foreseeable future.
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Winesnob said:
Get the GNex. It's a great device even if stuck on Verizon's reliable yet ever so slow update network. I'll be jumping ship when my contract expires in another year, but for now it's a great device and will be for the foreseeable future.
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Thats what im doing right now. Im switching to the GSM for cost primarily. Honestly the slow updates arent an issue because the device has an amazing developer support.

Thanks guys, you sold me.
So should I use my upgrade on an S3 (or other) and sell it, or save the upgrade? Is Verizon going to be offering a Nexus device in the future?

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Thanks guys, you sold me.
So should I use my upgrade on an S3 (or other) and sell it, or save the upgrade? Is Verizon going to be offering a Nexus device in the future?
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If you either need the money or can put it aside until something thou want comes out then yeah, otherwise I would wait
-dont forget to check out my phone on Swappa I'll throw in my diztronic case too

Buy an S3. You can do everything you want on that.
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Get the s3
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Buy an S3. You can do everything you want on that.
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Yeah?
How about this time next year?
It's not the hardware I have an issue with, it's the crushing ineptitude of the upgrade system. My TB was the S3 in early 2011 and have been waiting for ICS for a year. 12 fvcking months.
Google-->me
or
Google-->Samsung/HTC/LG/Moto-->Verizon-->me
I like the first one.

DrunkUncas said:
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Google-->me
or
Google-->Samsung/HTC/LG/Moto-->Verizon-->me
I like the first one.
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Google-->Samsung/HTC/Moto-->Verizon-->BlackHole-->Verizon-->Me
Fixed.....(I intentionally left LG out because they don't know how to update phones in the first place)
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Get a Note II
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DrunkUncas said:
Yeah?
How about this time next year?
It's not the hardware I have an issue with, it's the crushing ineptitude of the upgrade system. My TB was the S3 in early 2011 and have been waiting for ICS for a year. 12 fvcking months.
Google-->me
or
Google-->Samsung/HTC/LG/Moto-->Verizon-->me
I like the first one.
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Idk if you'll find a phone that's guaranteed upgrades on big red. Even the nexus was bsed with. The s3 and note 2 are pretty good in that area. At least samsung sends the update. I don't think the rezound will end up with JB.
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i just threw my iphone 4 for this phone 2 days ago, and im happy about it

Buy vzw HTC ONE now or wait for the nexus 5?

Hey all-
I am in the middle of a dilemma, I currently own a VZW galaxy nexus and it is on its last leg. The battery is shot, takes forever to connect calls, and is slow. I have been trying to baby it till the nexus 5 comes out but it is so annoying using a phone that is slow. I have been looking into the HTC one (my previous phone was the HTC incredible and I loved it). But I cant decide if I should try and wait for the N5? I understand that the HTC One as of now cannot achieve S-off/Root, but I am assuming it is only a matter of time till developers crack it.(thank you to all the great developors on XDA!) so what would you do in my situation? Wait for the N5 or go with the One?
I am really drawn to the one for the metal body and the new sense seems pretty nice, IMHO the S4 is to gimmiky.
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swegin said:
Hey all-
I am in the middle of a dilemma, I currently own a VZW galaxy nexus and it is on its last leg. The battery is shot, takes forever to connect calls, and is slow. I have been trying to baby it till the nexus 5 comes out but it is so annoying using a phone that is slow. I have been looking into the HTC one (my previous phone was the HTC incredible and I loved it). But I cant decide if I should try and wait for the N5? I understand that the HTC One as of now cannot achieve S-off/Root, but I am assuming it is only a matter of time till developers crack it.(thank you to all the great developors on XDA!) so what would you do in my situation? Wait for the N5 or go with the One?
I am really drawn to the one for the metal body and the new sense seems pretty nice, IMHO the S4 is to gimmiky.
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Who's to say that the Nexus 5 is coming to Verizon unless you plan on switching carriers.. You weren't really clear on that aspect. There is a great deal of new devices that are coming out soon which should make for an exciting fall and Q4..
Also on a side note never buy a device with the assumption that the developer community will unlock, root, s-off the device you plan to buy. With devices coming out so frequently and OEMs becoming smarter with the way they are locking down their devices it's a game of cat and mouse or hit or miss if you will......
I recently purchased the HTC One just because it's an amazing device, that is with the hopes the the real deal hackers crack the bootloader to achieve s-off, unlock, root etc...

Right now I am in the same boat. I have waited this long what's another month or two to see what the Nexus 5 has in store?
Yes it may mean changing carriers which sucks but Verizon has done everything to sabotage the htc one (4 months late, no black model, quickly locking it down) that they no longer deserve my business...
So I will wait to see what the fall phones bring before making a decision at this point.

As soon as you wait for one device to arrive, another ridiculous phone is right around the corner. It's an endless cycle.

I was in the same boat. HTC Incredible > Galaxy Nexus > ? I considered the Nexus 5 but between the solid rumors it is going to be an LG (my least favorite oem) and the fact VZW let the N4 pass it by I opted to go with the HTC One.
Got it day 2 expecting to unlock it. No such luck but not having root after coming from a Gnex has not been a big deal. The HTC One is sooo awesome compared to the Gnex. The only things I miss from root/roms is long press back button kill (more of a habit than an issue), some of the Sense screens (Like the battery usage screen). They are such picky things I have no regrets moving to the One.
Did I mention that while my Gnex needed 1 to 2 charges throughout the day to make it to bedtime but the one can stay off the charger and with similar usage has 40% left. With heavy usage I got to 14% once after 16 hours on battery. Battery and sluggishness drove me to a new phone and I am glad it was the HTC One.

I agree with all of you, however I plan on staying with vzw.... What phones other than the n5 are coming out? There is the new lg buy I cannot stand the volume rocker on the back....is there any other phones that have been confirmed to be with big red?
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Nothing as compelling as the HTC One ....yet.

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I agree with all of you, however I plan on staying with vzw.... What phones other than the n5 are coming out? There is the new lg buy I cannot stand the volume rocker on the back....is there any other phones that have been confirmed to be with big red?
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I assume the Note 3 will be on all carriers.

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I assume the Note 3 will be on all carriers.
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Yeah I would assume the Note 3 would most likely come to Verizon as well being that it is the primary and most popular phablet to date..

Nexus 5 definitely won't show up on Verizon. The only other great phone left this year on Verizon will likely be the G2. That looks to be even more powerful than the HTC One and a larger screen. I don't care for it because its LG and their android skin is horrendous. I also could never get a plastic phone after having an HTC One. Its your call though of course!

I've sort of stopped playing the "should I get it or wait?" game because the smartphone market has just become so insane. Once you get a phone, a newer, better one is right around the corner. I got the HTC One knowing the bootloader got locked up, and I'm really enjoying it...even stock it's nice. I mean, I can't wait to put other roms on it, but nevertheless, it's awesome.

I also had a similar smartphone trajectory. OG Droid -> DInc-> GNex
In April I bought the S4, but really wanted The One. So last week I sold my s4 on craigslist and bought The One. It is fantastic as is. My contract is finally up in December, and coincidentally my discount expired this month. So if the N5 comes out and looks substantially better than The One, I will sell The One on swappa or craigslist or ebay. My point is go ahead and buy the phone, if you want something newer in the future you can always sell it and get another phone, though you may take a small loss. The One is amazing and although 6 months old I can hardly believe it will feel "outdated" in even a year....

encyvrs providence
I would stop waiting and just get the one. I came from the GNexus and the one is better in every way. faster, better screen, better battery, better speakers and sound etc.

My thought is that if there is a phone out I want I'll get it vs waiting. If you decide to wait for the next best thing you'll never get a phone. They come out so fast now.
sent from my blue police box flying through time.....

Thanks for all of your responses! I think I am going to go ahead and get the one! I am in the design industry and I have been waiting for a beautiful android and the one is it! Going out this week and getting it,

The N5 will most likely not be anywhere near Verizon/Sprint so might as well get a One.

swegin said:
Hey all-
I am in the middle of a dilemma, I currently own a VZW galaxy nexus and it is on its last leg. The battery is shot, takes forever to connect calls, and is slow. I have been trying to baby it till the nexus 5 comes out but it is so annoying using a phone that is slow. I have been looking into the HTC one (my previous phone was the HTC incredible and I loved it). But I cant decide if I should try and wait for the N5? I understand that the HTC One as of now cannot achieve S-off/Root, but I am assuming it is only a matter of time till developers crack it.(thank you to all the great developors on XDA!) so what would you do in my situation? Wait for the N5 or go with the One?
I am really drawn to the one for the metal body and the new sense seems pretty nice, IMHO the S4 is to gimmiky.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
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I would get a one now if it has the nokia microphones and I think they still carry this feature. One HTC runs out of stock for these you probably won't see them in any other device in the future other than windows phones since microsoft is buying nokia. I listened to a few comparison videos on youtube and those microphones make a huge difference in recording capability. Htc ones with these mics will probably have high resale value later on down the road.

newuser2014 said:
I would get a one now if it has the nokia microphones and I think they still carry this feature. One HTC runs out of stock for these you probably won't see them in any other device in the future other than windows phones since microsoft is buying nokia. I listened to a few comparison videos on youtube and those microphones make a huge difference in recording capability. Htc ones with these mics will probably have high resale value later on down the road.
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Microsoft isn't buying Nokia from any source I've read... In fact from what I understand nokie is thinking of backing out of the partnership they currently have...
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I bought the one...it was nice. I returned it and am waiting for the Moto X to hit retail stores so I can Czech it out. I like as stock of an Android experience as possible, and the X looks like the best choice in that dept.
With the One, the build is awesome, the screen is great and the front facing speakers are amazing. The overlay I didn't care for (icons still remind me of my 2.2 Thunderbolt) and I thought the camera was terrible (even in direct comparison to my aging S3).
But, I think right now it's at least in the top 2 phones on Verizon, and I don't think you can go wrong with it.

cstrife999 said:
Microsoft isn't buying Nokia from any source I've read... In fact from what I understand nokie is thinking of backing out of the partnership they currently have...
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324432404579052112731349626.html
They are buying the Nokia Mobile for $7 billion.