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[Q] AT&T Preorder Problems?

Thought I might ask here, am I the only person not able to order this phone? After two days, and hours on the phone, whenever I place my pre-order, I get a confirmation email...and then seconds later, I get a cancellation email. You can't pre-order this over the phone or in stores...is there some special number I don't know about, to call and get this issue resolved? I've literally had an AT&T service rep tell me that they will just continue to cancel my order, and I'm out of luck.
I've thought about trying with bestbuy, but I have unlimited data, and Bestbuy (online) doesn't give an option to upgrade to the unlimited LTE add on.

SchusterIX said:
Thought I might ask here, am I the only person not able to order this phone? After two days, and hours on the phone, whenever I place my pre-order, I get a confirmation email...and then seconds later, I get a cancellation email. You can't pre-order this over the phone or in stores...is there some special number I don't know about, to call and get this issue resolved? I've literally had an AT&T service rep tell me that they will just continue to cancel my order, and I'm out of luck.
I've thought about trying with bestbuy, but I have unlimited data, and Bestbuy (online) doesn't give an option to upgrade to the unlimited LTE add on.
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I had the same problem Oct 25, as I was ordering 2 Notes, one full price and one for my wife with 2 year renewal. I also spent an hour on the phone, ATT couldn't figure it out. I finally thouhgt I would order one at a time. First I ordered the full price Note and received a confirmation email, then I ordered my wife's with discount for the 2 year contracrt, again confirmation. This time, it worked, so both ordered and confirmed for 11/6 ship date. Now if you were ordering only one, no idea, but finally worked for me by ordering only one at a time.

nascar24usa said:
I had the same problem Oct 25, as I was ordering 2 Notes, one full price one for my wife with 2 year renewal. I also spent an hour on the phone, ATT couldn't figure it out. I finally thouhgt I would order one at a time. First I ordered the full price Note and received a confirmation email, then I ordered my wife's with discount for the 2 year contracrt, again confirmation. This time, it worked, so both ordered and confirmed for 11/6 ship date. Now if you were ordering only one, no idea, but finally worked for me by ordring only one at a time.
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Yeah, I'm only ordering one. And I'm not going to risk being charged 700 dollars, when I'm trying to upgrade at the discount price. I see a few other people have had the same problem, but there aren't any solutions posted. Unfortunately, ATT just says to wait and buy it in a store, which isn't an option for me. Long story short, it's a gift and the person buying it is half a country away. And it's bs that I'd have to wait even longer, due to their crappy system haha.

SchusterIX said:
Yeah, I'm only ordering one. And I'm not going to risk being charged 700 dollars, when I'm trying to upgrade at the discount price. I see a few other people have had the same problem, but there aren't any solutions posted. Unfortunately, ATT just says to wait and buy it in a store, which isn't an option for me. Long story short, it's a gift and the person buying it is half a country away. And it's bs that I'd have to wait even longer, due to their crappy system haha.
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Really makes no sense and I agree with you. Why did I have to split my order to get both, ATT didn't even know.
Good luck.

Having a lot of problems getting the phone as well. Tried to pre-order it online only to have it either give me an error, or give me a *$399* price instead of $299. On-the-phone reps had no clue, told me I could go to a store to preorder it. Store had no clue, said there's nothing in their system about it. "We won't sell out, just come in on the 9th and get it here." URGH. Such a giant waste of time.

Reps told me to come in as well. I asked if they thought there would be a line guy said usually not for samsung. I asked what time they opened he said 9 I said ill be here at 8.
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SchusterIX said:
I've thought about trying with bestbuy, but I have unlimited data, and Bestbuy (online) doesn't give an option to upgrade to the unlimited LTE add on.
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Stop believing dumb **** you hear on the internet. I work for BBY and there is almost nothing we can't do when compared to carrier stores. Unlimited data? Effing easy. Blows me away that people would still believe that BS

imitenotbecrazy said:
Stop believing dumb **** you hear on the internet. I work for BBY and there is almost nothing we can't do when compared to carrier stores. Unlimited data? Effing easy. Blows me away that people would still believe that BS
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ok. i going to upgrade to Note2 on line2 (my dad line) and use Note2 on my line 1. if i call ATT to cancel data on line 2, will best buy charge me penalty? or are you able to NOT add data on line 2? since i'm going to use Note2 on my line 1.

netnerd said:
ok. i going to upgrade to Note2 on line2 (my dad line) and use Note2 on my line 1. if i call ATT to cancel data on line 2, will best buy charge me penalty? or are you able to NOT add data on line 2? since i'm going to use Note2 on my line 1.
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You'd be doing whats called an alternate upgrade. Basically upgrading your dads line to the note 2 then putting his original phone back on his line and putting the equipment on your line (note 2) if his old phone did not need data before it won't add data. I do these at least once a day with no complications. It's incredibly easy and done more often than regular upgrades are. And you shouldn't have to call and cancel anything. Just have the associate doing the upgrade make sure and show you that your dads original equipment has been returned to his line.

I wish the employees at my lo Al vest buy could figure out how to do an alternate upgrade. I tried to do one last month on my wife's line and none of them could figure it out. I just took the phone to an att store after I left best buy to get it taken care of.
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Featherbeard said:
Having a lot of problems getting the phone as well. Tried to pre-order it online only to have it either give me an error, or give me a *$399* price instead of $299. On-the-phone reps had no clue, told me I could go to a store to preorder it. Store had no clue, said there's nothing in their system about it. "We won't sell out, just come in on the 9th and get it here." URGH. Such a giant waste of time.
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You might have an incompatible rate plan code. Apparently I had an old rate plan with an old code that the instant savings discount didn't recognize. I got all of this info from someone on AT&T live chat. They told me to call Premier and tell them to update the code and that they'll know what I'm talking about. 5 minutes later I was able to get the $100 discount and my preorder was in.

imitenotbecrazy said:
Stop believing dumb **** you hear on the internet. I work for BBY and there is almost nothing we can't do when compared to carrier stores. Unlimited data? Effing easy. Blows me away that people would still believe that BS
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Dumb s? Really now...look at your own GD website. It doesn't give the option to upgrade to unlimited LTE, it just gives the option to not CHANGE anything. It does not clarify if that will upgrade to the unlimited LTE add on.
Look at your own site before *****ing. No wonder no one takes Best Buy seriously lol...
As for everyone else, I got a higher tier customer service, and they can't figure it out. It's basically FUBAR'd. In more detail, they said that the order isn't even making it through. That they, for some reason, don't believe I'm me. So I'll have to take care of it through a bit more complicated way.
Good luck for anyone else trying to order from ATT. I went on their forums, and I'm not the only one dealing with this hassle lol.

SchusterIX said:
Dumb s? Really now...look at your own GD website. It doesn't give the option to upgrade to unlimited LTE, it just gives the option to not CHANGE anything. It does not clarify if that will upgrade to the unlimited LTE add on.
Look at your own site before *****ing. No wonder no one takes Best Buy seriously lol...
As for everyone else, I got a higher tier customer service, and they can't figure it out. It's basically FUBAR'd. In more detail, they said that the order isn't even making it through. That they, for some reason, don't believe I'm me. So I'll have to take care of it through a bit more complicated way.
Good luck for anyone else trying to order from ATT. I went on their forums, and I'm not the only one dealing with this hassle lol.
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You're *****ing about our website not keeping your ****?? So a system that is based off of someone else's system (ATT in this case) didn't work correctly? Get off your lazy ass and go to a store. That way you can get it done correctly without having to deal with any operator error
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Comon now guys, let's keep it civil on on-topic.

My preorder on att's site was cancelled and now it instantly cancels when I try to reorder.:crying:

barry99705 said:
My preorder on att's site was cancelled and now it instantly cancels when I try to reorder.:crying:
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This pre-order has just been a nightmare. I couldn't even get to ordering it as the site just gave me an error. Customer service told me to do it at a store, store told me they don't even have it in their system to pre-order it. What's the point of a pre-order that doesn't work?

Featherbeard said:
This pre-order has just been a nightmare. I couldn't even get to ordering it as the site just gave me an error. Customer service told me to do it at a store, store told me they don't even have it in their system to pre-order it. What's the point of a pre-order that doesn't work?
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Heh, just got off the phone with support. We tried two different credit cards, both are empty not used very often, and it denied both then locked the account. She said I'd have to go to a store to show two forms of id to unlock the account. Yea, their system is ****ed up.

Preordering is a major waste of time. Yet another advantage of not being a iPhone user is not having to order early just to try and get it delivered day 1.
I can see certain situations where you might want to buy online and have it delivered to someone half a country away as a gift, but on the whole there is no incentive to do it.
The phones will be in stock unless their delivery didn't arrive on time. As great a phone as the Notes are, they are still in a fairly niche market. Not many people like the idea of this massive phone. People still freak out when they see me pull my phone out. My buddies will give me even more crap with the bigger screen when I get mine in a few days.
Best Buy handles everything very quickly. If you have a standalone Best Buy Mobile location near you, go there. My experience has always been better there, but that's just my experience. Less lines, less crowded.
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DeRock13 said:
Preordering is a major waste of time. Yet another advantage of not being a iPhone user is not having to order early just to try and get it delivered day 1.
I can see certain situations where you might want to buy online and have it delivered to someone half a country away as a gift, but on the whole there is no incentive to do it.
The phones will be in stock unless their delivery didn't arrive on time. As great a phone as the Notes are, they are still in a fairly niche market. Not many people like the idea of this massive phone. People still freak out when they see me pull my phone out. My buddies will give me even more crap with the bigger screen when I get mine in a few days.
Best Buy handles everything very quickly. If you have a standalone Best Buy Mobile location near you, go there. My experience has always been better there, but that's just my experience. Less lines, less crowded.
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That reminds me. I need to call geek squad again. They've been double charging my card for my protection plan every other month or so. I think this will be call number 9 to get them to fix it, again... :silly: Started when my OG Droid's touch screen died, and verizon wouldn't do anything to help me out, so I ditched them and went back to at&t. Got the Dell Streak because the Atrix wasn't out yet. 29 days later the Atrix dropped, so I swapped over to that. They "canceled" the protection plan and started it up on the new phone, but the Streak plan is haunting my account. It just won't go away. The geeks at BB can't do anything, I always have to call their customer support.

barry99705 said:
My preorder on att's site was cancelled and now it instantly cancels when I try to reorder.:crying:
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Same here and when I call to find out what is going on, I get read from some script because they have no idea why. I guess I'll just go on launch day and hopefully pick one up
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Paying off my note 2?

So in nov I signed up with tmobile and got the note and a gs3 for my wife. I plan on selling the note and getting the s4 in march. I call tmobile to pay it off and they tell me I have to pay both phones off? This isn't what the agent told me when I signed up. He knew I swap phones about every 6 months. So my question is why can't I pay the note off separate? My wife never upgrades her phone plus it would lower my bill per month down. Tmobile is ending the subsidiaries anyways so I don't see what the issue is? The reason I went gsm is to be able to put any phone on the carrier as I like, such as international versions.

Talk to a different rep. Cause that rep is an asshole
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Nope just spoke to customer relations and was told it cannot be done until tmobile ends the subsidiaries in a few months. No way in hell I'm paying $700+ for both phones. Basically the rep I signed up with flat out lied to me. If I would of known this I would of just bought my note full retail. Really ticked off right now.
$720 for both phones + $600 or so for the s4 is just too much for me.
3rd damn carrier that seems to lure their customers in with lies. Who would refuse me paying off a phone today? Basically I was told their systems cannot allow only one device to be payed off until may when they change their policies. This is really going to screw over a lot of people. I just don't get it.
Can anyone explain tmobiles logic in this? I'm baffled.

I've heard that since it was Even More Plus. The credit line is for everything combined, you can't separate them out. No idea if that's the truth, but they have been consistent in telling me that. If you were lied to, that really sucks and, IMO, they should try to do something for you. No idea what, but they could offer something.
Not much help, but at least confirming what they are telling you now anyway.

ttabbal said:
I've heard that since it was Even More Plus. The credit line is for everything combined, you can't separate them out. No idea if that's the truth, but they have been consistent in telling me that. If you were lied to, that really sucks and, IMO, they should try to do something for you. No idea what, but they could offer something.
Not much help, but at least confirming what they are telling you now anyway.
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Yeah I have it in writing too from the original kiosk rep. I'm really ticked as I talk to this guy all the time when I'm at the mall. Tmobile is investigating what he told me and I've notified his manger. This really screws anyone who wants to get another phone anytime before may. I just don't understand the logic. Why would they care if I decide to pay the device off? Now I'm screwed if I wanted to get the s4 in a few weeks unless I add a 3rd line.
Now I can see why so many go prepaid. To avoid all of the carrier BS. This is worse then what I dealt with on both sprint and Verizon.
There has to be a loophole for this. Any ideas guys?

It does make sense that the credit extended is put into one loan. I'm sure it makes it easier on the accounting for them....... BUT...... If that guy told you something different, I would go straight to him and have him help you get this sorted out immediately. He's the one that gave you misinformation, I would make him spend time working to correct it also.
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yeah, this really makes no sense to me why they would require this just because the phone accounts are linked? Just to be sure though, I'm going to make sure I buy my phone and my wife's phone separately.

Im told its becuase both phones were purchased together but that was becuase thats the day i switched from verizon to tmobile. The rep knew i switch devices often and told me it wouldnt be an issue. I got an email from the manager that they are investigating. If any of you bought the phones together id check on this. Im glad they are ending the pay per month on the phones BS. From now on ill pay full price.

This happened to me too. Opened a tmo business account and bought an S3 and a cheap text phone for the wife. Financed $500 between the two, and was told I could pay them off seperately. The note 2 comes out, so I go to pay the balance of the S3. I was told the same, you have to pay both off because they where contracted at ths same time. But I still had enough available credit to finance the note 2, swap the sim from the S3 in to the note 2, put the S3 on Craigslist, it sold the next day for the $400 balance I had on the note 2. Walked in to tmo the very next day and paid the note 2 off.

This is just an idea, I don't know for sure if it will work, but when I bought
my Note and my wife's phone, they told me that is no penalty if I pay
the phone(s) in advance OR if I pay more per month to shorten the pay
period of 20 months.
So, I guess you can go into the store and tell them you want to pay, let's say
$300 in the account for the phones. That will lower your montly payment, just
like you payed yours out and not "mess" with they're account number.
It's worth a try anyway....

Wait. So I have a $2000 credit on my account for devices. There's like $700 available. Your saying they won't let me pay a partial payment towards that?
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I think you can make a partial payment, but your monthly bill stays the same until its all paid off

mikeyinid said:
Wait. So I have a $2000 credit on my account for devices. There's like $700 available. Your saying they won't let me pay a partial payment towards that?
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i was told flat out i cannot pay off just one device, it has to be all of them or none until they end the subsidies and change their systems in may. im waiting to hear back from the store manager.

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I think you can make a partial payment, but your monthly bill stays the same until its all paid off
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the way tmobile does business is BS. never had this issue on sprint or verizon, i could swap phones when ever i wanted without penalties. knowing me the s4 will be announced and ill get impatient and just pay the $720 off and get the new phone lol. from now on ill always just buy my devices outright.

You could do what I did. Pay the deposit on the new phone and finance the rest, sell the old phone, then pay off the new phone.

premiatul said:
This is just an idea, I don't know for sure if it will work, but when I bought
my Note and my wife's phone, they told me that is no penalty if I pay
the phone(s) in advance OR if I pay more per month to shorten the pay
period of 20 months.
So, I guess you can go into the store and tell them you want to pay, let's say
$300 in the account for the phones. That will lower your montly payment, just
like you payed yours out and not "mess" with they're account number.
It's worth a try anyway....
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i get what your saying but until these phones are payed off i wouldn't be able to activate the s4 or whatever phone on the current lines without penalty. id have to open a 3rd line. if i cannot get this resolved i guess ill just have to wait until they change their systems in late april or may.

stevessvt said:
You could do what I did. Pay the deposit on the new phone and finance the rest, sell the old phone, then pay off the new phone.
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that's when tmobile gets the s4, i was planning on buying the international version as it will ship much sooner than the US carriers will get it. plus from now on i won't finance phones from tmobile, ill buy them outright. if that's what you meant buy putting a deposit down.
it's my fault for believing the rep and not reading all of the fine print. the dude must be like a car salesman. says anything for a sale.

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i was told flat out i cannot pay off just one device, it has to be all of them or none until they end the subsidies and change their systems in may. im waiting to hear back from the store manager.
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If that is the case, which I will call tomorrow and find out, me and tmobile are gonna have a huge problem. I upgrade very often. If I can't pay a portion of that off to free up space for a new device there's no point.
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If that is the case, which I will call tomorrow and find out, me and tmobile are gonna have a huge problem. I upgrade very often. If I can't pay a portion of that off to free up space for a new device there's no point.
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same here man, i upgrade very often. go ahead and call and i bet you get the same response i was given. once they end the subsidies and change the policies you will be able to pay just one device off. "take that with a grain of salt". to me this just doesn't make much business sense. if i finance two cars at the same time for lets say 2 years and decide to pay one of them off early i doubt anyone would be complaining getting their money early.

fix-this! said:
Nope just spoke to customer relations and was told it cannot be done until tmobile ends the subsidiaries in a few months. No way in hell I'm paying $700+ for both phones. Basically the rep I signed up with flat out lied to me. If I would of known this I would of just bought my note full retail. Really ticked off right now.
$720 for both phones + $600 or so for the s4 is just too much for me.
3rd damn carrier that seems to lure their customers in with lies. Who would refuse me paying off a phone today? Basically I was told their systems cannot allow only one device to be payed off until may when they change their policies. This is really going to screw over a lot of people. I just don't get it.
Can anyone explain tmobiles logic in this? I'm baffled.
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Business 101.... get it in writing otherwise it's hearsay
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fix-this! said:
same here man, i upgrade very often. go ahead and call and i bet you get the same response i was given. once they end the subsidies and change the policies you will be able to pay just one device off. "take that with a grain of salt". to me this just doesn't make much business sense. if i finance two cars at the same time for lets say 2 years and decide to pay one of them off early i doubt anyone would be complaining getting their money early.
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Ummmm a car and a cellphone are two different anomalies... .
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Best Buy $200 gift card offer & Verizon

Anybody know yet if full price purchases are included, or upgrades only? No consistent answer from BB yet and not a peep from Samsung. More and more this seems like a "shoot from the hip" effort by Samsung with little thought other than a knee jerk response to try and stem the market-share bleeding due to the iPhone 6 and the iPhone Plus Bendy.

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Anybody know yet if full price purchases are included, or upgrades only? No consistent answer from BB yet and not a peep from Samsung. More and more this seems like a "shoot from the hip" effort by Samsung with little thought other than a knee jerk response to try and stem the market-share bleeding due to the iPhone 6 and the iPhone Plus Bendy.
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Hi there, @rushless - Please post questions in the Q&A section - thanks.

The $200 gift card only applies if you TRADE IN an existing smartphone. I don't believe it excludes phones purchased at full cost, but I'm not 100% certain.
The gift card is a Best Buy thing, so I'm not sure why you're expecting Samsung to chime in. Samsung is offering their own similar promotion, however. If you activate a new Note 4 and trade in an existing smartphone elsewhere, Samsung will cut you a check for $200 - $(trade in value of phone), provided you send them proof.

Samsung is working with best buy on this one, so we get the best buy $200 gift cert. Instead of the $200 rebate check.
That works for me, since we'll get the full purchase amount on our best buy credit cards, and will earn reward zone credits based on that amount. ($20 on two phones, I I'll turn around and just apply the gift cert. In store as a payment on our credit card once we complete the sale.

The deal only works with a two year contract. That is how the process works and was verified by Best Buy and how their sales system is set up. Samsung regional rep also confirmed that is how Best Buy is doing it.
Samsung also stated that is how it should work for everyone else, but by the way Samsung set the process up for the others, not sure how they can control that. Looks like Samsung is going to have a big cluster
fook on their hands.

So I just got back from BB and I went all through the process and everything was going perfectly AND THEN I get to the very end where they are gonna place the pre-order for my black note 4 for me and the computer would not let them do it... they told me "the system has turned off pre-orders for both the black and white note 4" I asked to speak to a manager and he said he does not know if they hit their limit or if it is a technical problem and he took my info and is going to call me back (unlikely). I cannot see how they could have hit their limit as the girl that helped me told me when I got there that they have not had many pre-orders at all and she was excited to take my order!!! I cannot believe this, I am so pissed off right now... I am going to try another more reliable BB tomorrow morning but I am afraid that the result will be the same.... ;-/ I have not heard ANYONE ELSE having THIS issue.... UNREAL...

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So I just got back from BB and I went all through the process and everything was going perfectly AND THEN I get to the very end where they are gonna place the pre-order for my black note 4 for me and the computer would not let them do it... they told me "the system has turned off pre-orders for both the black and white note 4" I asked to speak to a manager and he said he does not know if they hit their limit or if it is a technical problem and he took my info and is going to call me back (unlikely). I cannot see how they could have hit their limit as the girl that helped me told me when I got there that they have not had many pre-orders at all and she was excited to take my order!!! I cannot believe this, I am so pissed off right now... I am going to try another more reliable BB tomorrow morning but I am afraid that the result will be the same.... ;-/ I have not heard ANYONE ELSE having THIS issue.... UNREAL...
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Yes, confirmed, same thing happened here today. It kind of a surprise for both me and the sale guy.

sidthekid28 said:
So I just got back from BB and I went all through the process and everything was going perfectly AND THEN I get to the very end where they are gonna place the pre-order for my black note 4 for me and the computer would not let them do it... they told me "the system has turned off pre-orders for both the black and white note 4" I asked to speak to a manager and he said he does not know if they hit their limit or if it is a technical problem and he took my info and is going to call me back (unlikely). I cannot see how they could have hit their limit as the girl that helped me told me when I got there that they have not had many pre-orders at all and she was excited to take my order!!! I cannot believe this, I am so pissed off right now... I am going to try another more reliable BB tomorrow morning but I am afraid that the result will be the same.... ;-/ I have not heard ANYONE ELSE having THIS issue.... UNREAL...
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I just checked online, and it looks like the preorders are blocked online as well now. could be they are sold out already, which is odd, because our local store has very few preorders.
I wonder if you could preorder at our store and have it moved to your local store?

Gareee said:
I just checked online, and it looks like the preorders are blocked online as well now. could be they are sold out already, which is odd, because our local store has very few preorders.
I wonder if you could preorder at our store and have it moved to your local store?
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It HAS to be a technical problem!!! The manager I spoke to said each store has their own separate limit so I really doubt that is the issue here... I am going to be so pissed off if I don't get in on this promotion... the girl that helped me said they literally had like NO pre-orders so far... there is NO way this is a limit issue... Hopefully I will have better luck tomorrow and I will report back..
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Yes, confirmed, same thing happened here today. It kind of a surprise for both me and the sale guy.
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What is your location??? I tried today at the Deptford, NJ store... I find it weird that it happened to us both on the same day at almost the same exact time... this is leading me to believe it was a system issue and not a sell-out issue... I am hopeful for better results at the Mt. Laurel, NJ store tomorrow...

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It HAS to be a technical problem!!! The manager I spoke to said each store has their own separate limit so I really doubt that is the issue here... I am going to be so pissed off if I don't get in on this promotion... the girl that helped me said they literally had like NO pre-orders so far... there is NO way this is a limit issue... Hopefully I will have better luck tomorrow and I will report back..
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What is your location??? I tried today at the Deptford, NJ store... I find it weird that it happened to us both on the same day at almost the same exact time... this is leading me to believe it was a system issue and not a sell-out issue... I am hopeful for better results at the Mt. Laurel, NJ store tomorrow...
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I'm in Wilmington, DE. The only advantage getting from BestBuy is you get the money right away. We can get the promotion from everywhere because the promotion is run by Samsung, so I'm not sweating. I think BB stopped this globally for Verizon note 4, they removed the preorder option from the website, however, not for AT&T and others.

buhohitr said:
I'm in Wilmington, DE. The only advantage getting from BestBuy is you get the money right away. We can get the promotion from everywhere because the promotion is run by Samsung, so I'm not sweating. I think BB stopped this globally for Verizon note 4, they removed the preorder option from the website, however, not for AT&T and others.
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Verizon note 4 was never on the website for pre-order... i checked every single day for the past 3 weeks, so they did not remove anything, it was never there... and I am still betting on something wrong with the system... I am not waiting for a check from samsung that might not even come for 6-8 weeks, BB HAS TO HONOR THE ADVERTISEMENT CONSIDERING THEY ARE STILL PUTTING THAT FRIGGIN SIGN OUTSIDE EACH MORNING RIGHT NOW. I GUARANTEE YOU I GET THEM TO TAKE MY PRE ORDER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. WATCH ME.

According to a Samsung chat I had yesterday, the $200 off the note 4 with a old phone DOES work when buying note 4 at full price. Just had a chat yesterday. Best buy did tell me it had to be upgrade but straight Samsung, they said it works full retain at Best Buy.
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Full price should work, with caveat
So if you check out the fine-print on the best buy preorder site (can't post the link because I'm a lurker...) it does not say you have to sign a new 2-year agreement. There IS another Best Buy site that indicates "must be eligible for upgrade," but does NOT explicitly state that you have to sign a new agreement. I'll be picking up my pre-ordered full-price (no new contract) Verizon Note 4 tomorrow around noon Eastern, and hope they don't try to insist a new contract is necessary for the $200 trade-in deal (I am eligible for an upgrade, but want to keep my unlimited data). If they do, I'll be calling my state attorney general to complain. I am not a lawyer, but the fine print published online does not indicate a new carrier agreement is necessary, nor does it point to a location where such a statement is made.

sablazo said:
So if you check out the fine-print on the best buy preorder site (can't post the link because I'm a lurker...) it does not say you have to sign a new 2-year agreement. There IS another Best Buy site that indicates "must be eligible for upgrade," but does NOT explicitly state that you have to sign a new agreement. I'll be picking up my pre-ordered full-price (no new contract) Verizon Note 4 tomorrow around noon Eastern, and hope they don't try to insist a new contract is necessary for the $200 trade-in deal (I am eligible for an upgrade, but want to keep my unlimited data). If they do, I'll be calling my state attorney general to complain. I am not a lawyer, but the fine print published online does not indicate a new carrier agreement is necessary, nor does it point to a location where such a statement is made.
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Upgrade eligibility means your line is nearing the end of its service agreement and you qualify for subsidized pricing. Both youmention are saying the same thing. The promotion requires a 2 yr agreement and trade in of any working device in the best buy trade in system. I used to work for best buy as a mobile phones sales lead on and off over the years as s part time job.

I traded in my S5 today. Got $245 for it. I paid $250 for it off of Clist 3 weeks ago and got 2 otter box cases, 64GB micro SD card and two chargers so I can sell the cases and the chargers if I want. BestBuy matched Verizon's $699 price and I got $245 off instantly for my trade-in. Walked out the door paying $494. I have mine on the Verizon Allset prepaid plan.

No upgrade or new activation here and I got the $200 off plus they matched Verizon at $699 and the manager told me to keep my trade-in. He tried to pull that BS with upgrade but he changed his mind about 5 minutes later. Out the door at $482

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No upgrade or new activation here and I got the $200 off plus they matched Verizon at $699 and the manager told me to keep my trade-in. He tried to pull that BS with upgrade but he changed his mind about 5 minutes later. Out the door at $482
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Just curious. $699-$200=$499. How do you get out the door at $482?

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Just curious. $699-$200=$499. How do you get out the door at $482?
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Sorry...I had the $50 gift card from pre-order. Actually $532 cuz the $50 was my money anyway. Shouldn't post when buzzed...sorry [emoji1]

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Sorry...I had the $50 gift card from pre-order. Actually $532 cuz the $50 was my money anyway. Shouldn't post when buzzed...sorry [emoji1]
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Oh ok. I thought somehow I may have gotten screwed.

Any problems with buying phone outright over upgrade?

Hey everyone - just a quick question. I purchased my phone directly from Samsung, the Verizon version of course and was curious if after it arrived I would have to go into the store to activate it or, if I could simply throw in my old Sim from my HTC. I purchased the n7 outright rather than using my upgrade (saving it for q1 2017).
I'm assuming that I can just pop in the old sim but wanted to double check I wouldn't lose any features/functions from doing so.
Thanks in advance!

As long as the old Sim is a nanosim then yes you can just pop in the new one. Typically the phone will include a sim card with it and you can activate it online or over the phone using another device to activate your Note 7. If you don't feel like going through with the manual activation, swapping it over should work just fine.

Cheers I figure it would be simply! Thanks cad!
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Chikenbok said:
Hey everyone - just a quick question. I purchased my phone directly from Samsung, the Verizon version of course and was curious if after it arrived I would have to go into the store to activate it or, if I could simply throw in my old Sim from my HTC. I purchased the n7 outright rather than using my upgrade (saving it for q1 2017).
I'm assuming that I can just pop in the old sim but wanted to double check I wouldn't lose any features/functions from doing so.
Thanks in advance!
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I had a slight problem buying outright from Verizon, as I was not upgrade eligible. They would NOT let me pre-order without changing to the "new" Verizon plan. I, too, ordered directly from Samsung, so appreciate your question, and might just switch Sims. Have you had any news on Samsung shipping? It sounds like TMobile is already shipping?

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I had a slight problem buying outright from Verizon, as I was not upgrade eligible. They would NOT let me pre-order without changing to the "new" Verizon plan. I, too, ordered directly from Samsung, so appreciate your question, and might just switch Sims. Have you had any news on Samsung shipping? It sounds like TMobile is already shipping?
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This is something I posted on another thread I had made -- I spoke with about 7 different reps until I finally got this answer:
"I actually called back a couple of times to get some kind of statistical honesty... Yeah I know.
Finally I spoke to someone high enough up the ladder who said, "the only people who know when the phones from Samsung will ship, are the corporate execs. Despite what anyone tells you, only carriers can release early, as the manufacturer, we just wait. However, if you did preorder early, you will get your phone around the 19th as we've been told."
It only took me 5 phone calls to get some honesty... Albeit bizarre honesty. ALL I WANTED WAS TO HEAR 'Hey man, I'm gonna ship your phone on Monday!"
This was after 2 people told me the phones were shipping Mid-September and I was trying to cancel my order to pick one up in store...
BTW I also went with coral blue, ordered on 8/3

Chikenbok said:
This is something I posted on another thread I had made -- I spoke with about 7 different reps until I finally got this answer:
"I actually called back a couple of times to get some kind of statistical honesty... Yeah I know.
Finally I spoke to someone high enough up the ladder who said, "the only people who know when the phones from Samsung will ship, are the corporate execs. Despite what anyone tells you, only carriers can release early, as the manufacturer, we just wait. However, if you did preorder early, you will get your phone around the 19th as we've been told."
It only took me 5 phone calls to get some honesty... Albeit bizarre honesty. ALL I WANTED WAS TO HEAR 'Hey man, I'm gonna ship your phone on Monday!"
This was after 2 people told me the phones were shipping Mid-September and I was trying to cancel my order to pick one up in store...
BTW I also went with coral blue, ordered on 8/3
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Thanks very much. That's what I was looking for. It's like pulling teeth to get anything out of them, isn't it? So it appears that phones ordered from carriers will be received sooner than Samsung orders? Oh well.

Maybe, maybe not.. It's like a magic 8 ball.. I figure well have them this week assuming you ordered somewhat early.
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I had a slight problem buying outright from Verizon, as I was not upgrade eligible. They would NOT let me pre-order without changing to the "new" Verizon plan. I, too, ordered directly from Samsung, so appreciate your question, and might just switch Sims. Have you had any news on Samsung shipping? It sounds like TMobile is already shipping?
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That's BS. You can keep your old plan and put the new phone on device payments. I did it in June when I got a new S7E. This rule was instituted last November to "lessen" the blow of the additional $20 price hike for grandfathered UDPs but applies to all old plans.
Of course my old device was already paid for. If yours isn't, don't know what the deal is then. You may have to pay it off, then trade it in to get a new device and keep your old plan.

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That's BS. You can keep your old plan and put the new phone on device payments. I did it in June when I got a new S7E. This rule was instituted last November to "lessen" the blow of the additional $20 price hike for grandfathered UDPs but applies to all old plans.
Of course my old device was already paid for. If yours isn't, don't know what the deal is then. You may have to pay it off, then trade it in to get a new device and keep your old plan.
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I'm on a "loyalty" plan, which has a good rate, and as I understand it, I have a plan commitment, but the phone is free to go anytime - not locked like they used to be. So I was unable to order online (paying full price outright) without accepting the new plan, and when I called in I got the same information - could not pre-order without changing the plan since I was still under contract. You know you can call 5 times and get 5 different answers. Since it was the 19th, I was on hold a long time and someone finally said they would transfer me to someone who could probably do it. By that time I decided to go through Samsung, which I did online with no problem. Like all of us, can't wait to get it!

As long as it is a nano sim just pop in and you are good to go.

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As long as it is a nano sim just pop in and you are good to go.
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I'm assuming that's what I have in my HTC 10 [emoji12] so I'll give it a shot! Thanks! Now just to wait for Samsung to ship the damned device..
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I'm still on the note 3 and I love it due to the rooting/customization I have, but I think it's about time for an upgrade. I am currently on a UDP line, does the best buy method work anymore or will I have to buy this phone at full price to keep my UDP. I am on a the same bill as a few family members that have an upgrade but they are thinking of switching providers so I'm not sure I can use their upgrade to grab the phone at a discounted price.

If you look at the bottom of the page on best buys website they have a disclaimer about unlimited data.
Also if you buy phone at full price you will not have a issues last I heard.

I didn't preorder. Just went to Best Buy on release day , bought it full retail and popped my sim into the phone. Hassle free.

Refund Note 7 but keep upgrade

Has anyone talked to Verizon about returning the Note 7 but keeping the upgrade until a new phone comes out? Everything out now just doesn't suite my needs, and I don't want to buy an 8 month old S7 Edge that isn't going to replace my Note 5 or 7.
I chatted with Verizon, and was told that if I simply returned the device, whatever I activated on the line (even my old Note 5) would effectively x-out my upgrade even if it wasn't a brand new phone or an upgrade.
Now, one interesting thing is the upgrade is on my wife's line, but the phone is on my line... So question 2, would that work the same?

That's ridiculous. How would activating an old phone be using up the upgrade. I'm going to call myself in a few and see what they say because in my case. I no longer have my old phone so I'm buying one from someone this weekend to be able to activate it in place of this note 7. Dammit what a mess this entire thing has been.
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That's ridiculous. How would activating an old phone be using up the upgrade. I'm going to call myself in a few and see what they say because in my case. I no longer have my old phone so I'm buying one from someone this weekend to be able to activate it in place of this note 7. Dammit what a mess this entire thing has been.
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I agree, it's BS when everything else fails to compare. If that is the case, I'll buy an iPhone 7 plus and ebay it.

Ok I just got off the phone with Verizon cs. The rep I spoke to was real nice and she knew her info.
I asked her if I activate my old. Phone will I still have my upgrade and she said YES.
She says I can upgrade at anytime.
I then asked since Verizon canceled the contracts what to keep me from staying with my phone and not returning it. She said EVENTUALLY THE COMPANY WILL HAVE AN AUDIT AND THEY WILL THEN SEE THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO STILL HAVE THE NOTE 7 HAVEN'T RETURNED THEM AND WILL EVENTUALLY BE BILLED FOR THE PHONE VIA WHICHEVER WAY YOU HAD YOUR PHONE PAYMENT SETUPLIKE. For instance i was going to pay monthly on mine for 2 years and if I keep the phone eventually when the phone is caught in the audit they would Then proceed to charge me monthly again for the phone.
Oh and something interesting she mentioned is when I originally swapped my old. Note 7 for this newer supposed safer note 7 that they didn't have me sign a new agreement. So basically there's nothing tieing me with this phone to them. But once again all it would take is a audit. Which they will eventually have done and they would flag it. I'd have to sign or return phone and be charged etc. Hopefully this answers some of your guys questions. I know it answered all my questions by calling.
I'm going back to my old phone. Getting all my refunds and upgrade next year when a hopefully. Newer better note 8 will be out.
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ACR_Manny said:
Ok I just got off the phone with Verizon cs. The rep I spoke to was real nice and she knew her info.
I asked her if I activate my old. Phone will I still have my upgrade and she said YES.
She says I can upgrade at anytime.
I then asked since Verizon canceled the contracts what to keep me from staying with my phone and not returning it. She said EVENTUALLY THE COMPANY WILL HAVE AN AUDIT AND THEY WILL THEN SEE THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO STILL HAVE THE NOTE 7 HAVEN'T RETURNED THEM AND WILL EVENTUALLY BE BILLED FOR THE PHONE VIA WHICHEVER WAY YOU HAD YOUR PHONE PAYMENT SETUPLIKE. For instance i was going to pay monthly on mine for 2 years and if I keep the phone eventually when the phone is caught in the audit they would Then proceed to charge me monthly again for the phone.
Oh and something interesting she mentioned is when I originally swapped my old. Note 7 for this newer supposed safer note 7 that they didn't have me sign a new agreement. So basically there's nothing tieing me with this phone to them. But once again all it would take is a audit. Which they will eventually have done and they would flag it. I'd have to sign or return phone and be charged etc. Hopefully this answers some of your guys questions. I know it answered all my questions by calling.
I'm going back to my old phone. Getting all my refunds and upgrade next year when a hopefully. Newer better note 8 will be out.
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Yep, I went to a high volume brick and mortar here in Jacksonville and confirmed the same. I'm going back to my old Note 5 and will return this to a store for a refund. No stylus or 5.7" screen is a deal breaker for me at this point. I really want a microsd slot, but I'll just have to deal for now.