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[Q] Games drain battery almost 40% an hour?

I got the LG G4 last week and every time I game on the phone, it uses 38% of my battery or so per hour. Is this normal? Nothing else uses much battery, the gaming optimizer is on and I've disabled extra apps I don't need.
I also notice my phone gets too hot to touch sometimes when playing a game.
At this rate I only get a little over 2 hours of use on a fully charged phone, which is crazy.
I have the Tmobile version, if that matters.
Does this happen to anyone else? My Samsung S4 and Xperia Z3 Compact had MUCH better gaming time than my G4. Maybe I have a dud?

Omgiloveshineythings said:
I got the LG G4 last week and every time I game on the phone, it uses 38% of my battery or so per hour. Is this normal? Nothing else uses much battery, the gaming optimizer is on and I've disabled extra apps I don't need.
I also notice my phone gets too hot to touch sometimes when playing a game.
At this rate I only get a little over 2 hours of use on a fully charged phone, which is crazy.
I have the Tmobile version, if that matters.
Does this happen to anyone else? My Samsung S4 and Xperia Z3 Compact had MUCH better gaming time than my G4. Maybe I have a dud?
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Sounds about right if its an intense game. It has to push 2k pixels, where as the s4 and z3 has much fewer. I kept having weird glitches with the game optimizer on playing final fantasy record keeper, so I turned it off and things worked fine. For that game it was probably closer to 30% an hour for me. I also have my brightness 35% or less too. Try turning off the game optimizer and see what happens. What is your brightness?

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Sounds about right if its an intense game. It has to push 2k pixels, where as the s4 and z3 has much fewer. I kept having weird glitches with the game optimizer on playing final fantasy record keeper, so I turned it off and things worked fine. For that game it was probably closer to 30% an hour for me. I also have my brightness 35% or less too. Try turning off the game optimizer and see what happens. What is your brightness?
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Is there any way to lower the pixel density so it doesn't have to push such high quality graphics? Another person said they thought the g4 is a terrible option for gaming because it has a bad GPU and that might be why it gets hot as well. I tend to play games on my phone alot when I'm waiting for something or bored so losing 38% battery an hour makes the phone a terrible fit for me. I have 14 days to return it, so I'm thinking about getting a phone like the s5 or something.
I'll try turning the optimizer off and see if that changes anything. My brightness depends on where I am but at home i keep it at about 30%.

Lower the graphics quality in the game and turn down the brightness, you can't do much more.
And 40% sounds completely reasonable.

This is what I noticed playing Juice Jam. It drains fast with auto brightness (50%). I'll try disabling game optimizer and see if it does anything.

Not much you can do except fiddle with the brightness.
And you're correct with the G4 not being a good gaming device. The GPU isn't exactly the greatest but still formidable. But with that 1440p screen, you can't expect magic. I would only do minor casual gaming on this thing (ie. Checking up on village in COC sort of thing with a few raids), nothing intense. Otherwise you would need a different phone. The Sony Xperia (Z3 I think?) are good for gaming with their insane battery life. S6 would be your next best bet.

Jumped here only to mention the Z3 battery life ... It is worth every penny when it comes to screen on time. By the end of the day it hits 5~6 hours of sot mainly gaming where as the g4 hardly gets 3~4 hours of moderate use.
Currently own both the Z3 and the G4 and both in dual SIM versions too
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Yes, you can lower the pixel density. That will probably cause some UI inconsistencies throughout the phone, but most things should work, but from seeing it on the Note 4, a lot of things won't as well.
I'd say, don't fret. You're getting 2 hours of playing games on your phone... If you picked the G4 for THAT reason, return it. Surely there are better phones, as mentioned, the Z3 has great battery life - probably the best for a phone its size. There's also the OPO and the Zen Mate 7. All have GREAT battery life, but of course, lack in other features.
Would I have preferred a 1080p screen? Yes! Why do I need a higher quality screen in my phone than in my living room? Lol. Is there anything I can do about this now that we already have this 2k screen frenzy? Nope. Even the next Sony device us rumored to jump onto its bandwagon as well...

Heat

Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Honor 8 stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
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I have not experience any form of heating where I could bake anything, but enough to make me aware of it. Of course heat during mapping is normal, gaming wise....I actually think it has been descent. Played Asphalt 8 for a good 30 minutes (thats my gaming time frame on regular basis) with nothing out of the norm. Could be better.

Niki Kidman said:
In the place where I live, summer is really hot! I noticed that Honor 8 performs much better than phones I used to use.
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It's probably due to the Kirin SoC, which is power efficient.

PalakMi said:
It's probably due to the Kirin SoC, which is power efficient.
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I always suspect it at much, though I find myself lacks of love to Kirin SoC due to almost no progress on custom development, and some sites reported poor performance of it, but I myself, who never play (or have any intention to play) any games on mobile device, use them strictly to communication usage (and some web surfing), I find Huawei's tradeoff performance over heat and battery life might very good concept.
I never care about synthetic benchmarks. I just need a device that can last long and stays cool all the times with my activities, and it never lags. My most demanding tasks might be watching 3-7 minutes of YouTube's videos for some times or navigating the roads with GPS.
But just like almost anyone else here, I can't stand the EMUI, just no. Still hoping Huawei will fully support custom dev with their new commitment.

x3r0.13urn said:
I always suspect it at much, though I find myself lacks of love to Kirin SoC due to almost no progress on custom development, and some sites reported poor performance of it, but I myself, who never play (or have any intention to play) any games on mobile device, use them strictly to communication usage (and some web surfing), I find Huawei's tradeoff performance over heat and battery life might very good concept.
I never care about synthetic benchmarks. I just need a device that can last long and stays cool all the times with my activities, and it never lags. My most demanding tasks might be watching 3-7 minutes of YouTube's videos for some times or navigating the roads with GPS.
But just like almost anyone else here, I can't stand the EMUI, just no. Still hoping Huawei will fully support custom dev with their new commitment.
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We all hope huawei try to push sources for dev always and ASAP

tends to warm up a lil bit, bt no overheating.

Glad to know there is no overheating.

Mine gets really hot when you work the camera(s).

Every single phone on the market will overheat. Some overheat very easily, and some take a while, but is not a one that will not get hot until it melts (even if it takes months of you playing asfault to do it ). If you wanted a practical answer though.... no, my friend has one and it doesn't get too hot when playing a game on it for a few hours.

Once I almost burned my hand while playing on my OnePlus One and charging it. This phone keeps lower temperatures than my OPO so that's a plus for me.

This is a topic I am really interested.
My present phones, the LG G2 and the OnePlus One, get really hot, specially in the Summer. The LG G2 is the worst, as it has everything in the same place, and the Snapdragon 800 is a little less refined than the 801.
I do not play on my smartphone, and I only use GPS once a month.
I use my phone to comunicate (call, text, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp and Viber), track my packages (Deliveries), watch some videos on YouTube and search quickly something on the internet.
I am a light user, but when I do something, that thing needs to be done quickly and right.
So, heat is a no-no for me.
This SoC seems to be a better option, even against the Snapdragon 820, which was my previous SoC of choice.

Actually this Honor 8 tends to get warm. And when you use the camera for some minutes it gets really really hot in the upper part.

ouardo said:
Actually this Honor 8 tends to get warm. And when you use the camera for some minutes it gets really really hot in the upper part.
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What do you mean by using the camera?
- Having it open while trying the features;
- Taking multiple shots;
- Making a video;
- Taking HDR photos; or
- Other use, please describe your usage.

hitardo said:
What do you mean by using the camera?
- Having it open while trying the features;
- Taking multiple shots;
- Making a video;
- Taking HDR photos; or
- Other use, please describe your usage.
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Simply having it open. It overheats very quickly. Seems to be an issue with Huawei p9 too, an owner told me.

ouardo said:
Simply having it open. It overheats very quickly. Seems to be an issue with Huawei p9 too, an owner told me.
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In my opinion, I suspect that is a software issue.
To have a better performance and take pictures very quickly, the CPU and GPU are taken to the limit and have a more aggressive governor and higher minimum frequency.

I don't know. Could be for the dual camera though. Whose usefulness, by the way, is at least dubious.

ouardo said:
I don't know. Could be for the dual camera though. Whose usefulness, by the way, is at least dubious.
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Yes, I agree.
At least on the heating problem.
From the review of Pocketnow, it is clear than it has a positive affect on the dynamic range of the photos. HDR becomes obsolete, which is a good thing, as HDR uses more power from the phone, takes more time and requires to be still for longer.

Look, I've experimented with the cameras in every light condition. Covering the mono sensor and leaving it active. I myself could not really tell a single difference between the photos taken.I really don't.

I don't know how you are getting it hot. I have played games. Used the light for extended periods of time. Used maps. Camera, video. It has never been as hot as other phones I have used.
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bricky23 said:
It has never been as hot as other phones I have used.
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Thank you for sharing your experience.

One plus 3 heating/warming even after replacement like the old one! is it normal?

when using wifi/4g in my house, i watched video, browsed fb and even shared internet and all. below i'll give my observations:
in wifi:
watching video, fb and browsing, whatsappin: the phone get very very slightly warm like not warm just the bit different from the phones usual temp like it hovers around 33-34.
when gaming in wifi it goes arounf 36-39 (NOVA 3) battery never crossed 31..
4g in my house, battery arounf 32-33, temperature around 37-39 for all.
but when i step out of my house, like when i'm operating my mobile in train/bus and the ambient temperature varies from say 28-32, my phone gets considerably hot and today, i was travelling in Bus and the ambient temp was around 35 and i was just browsing , watching videos and fb, my phone became hot like it even would have touched 43-46! i felt it hot to touch, is this norma(it's making me extremely paranoid)l!!??? if this is the case what happens if it's summer here, the phone would become blazingly hot, coz in summer ambient temp would be around 36-44 and all!!
Is this normala or am i unlucky for the second time ? I'm getting paranoid!

Just hit them back up
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Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.

msvr3 said:
when using wifi/4g in my house, i watched video, browsed fb and even shared internet and all. below i'll give my observations:
in wifi:
watching video, fb and browsing, whatsappin: the phone get very very slightly warm like not warm just the bit different from the phones usual temp like it hovers around 33-34.
when gaming in wifi it goes arounf 36-39 (NOVA 3) battery never crossed 31..
4g in my house, battery arounf 32-33, temperature around 37-39 for all.
but when i step out of my house, like when i'm operating my mobile in train/bus and the ambient temperature varies from say 28-32, my phone gets considerably hot and today, i was travelling in Bus and the ambient temp was around 35 and i was just browsing , watching videos and fb, my phone became hot like it even would have touched 43-46! i felt it hot to touch, is this norma(it's making me extremely paranoid)l!!??? if this is the case what happens if it's summer here, the phone would become blazingly hot, coz in summer ambient temp would be around 36-44 and all!!
Is this normala or am i unlucky for the second time ? I'm getting paranoid!
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With heavy multitasking, I hit 60+. Not regularly, but it has happened. The temperatures you're hitting are normal for me. I've had zero issues with the device. I have an OtterBox case, so I don't feel the heat as much. Honestly, I barely even notice heat at those temperatures. Considering the fact that the body of the device is aluminum, it's going to easily get hot to the touch.
Also, my One would almost always run between 45-70, and I've had that since launch. Used it heavily daily for years, and I still use it regularly as an app development device. No issues.
These devices have extremely powerful processors. They get hot. There's not an easy, efficient, way to cool a processor in a device like this yet, but they're designed for heavy use, so I wouldn't worry about it.

crzykiller said:
Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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Hi first of all thanks for the reply.. I'll tell you what really made me paranoid.. Every evening I travel in bus and train and the ambient temperature would be from27-28_29.. I use 4g jio.. I just browsw/fb/insta.. In minutes my phone near the earpiece on the screen gets warmed up and it'd go around 40-41. Then I lock it it cools down fast but when I unlock it in seconds again starts warming up... My friend using same 4g in moto g4plus but his screen is cooler than mine... Please my one last doubt...

This is nothing lol. I live in Scotland so just now ambient temperature range from 5-13 °c and in my house 21-23°c and my Z3+ hits 60-70°c easily on heavy use. Benchmarked it one day and hit 90°c. The joys of the 810 chipset. Anyway away to upgrade to the OP3T so i should see and feel a massive difference.

msvr3 said:
Hi first of all thanks for the reply.. I'll tell you what really made me paranoid.. Every evening I travel in bus and train and the ambient temperature would be from27-28_29.. I use 4g jio.. I just browsw/fb/insta.. In minutes my phone near the earpiece on the screen gets warmed up and it'd go around 40-41. Then I lock it it cools down fast but when I unlock it in seconds again starts warming up... My friend using same 4g in moto g4plus but his screen is cooler than mine... Please my one last doubt...
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Install a custom ROM and kernel and limit your background tasks. You may just have a bunch of things running using your CPU.

Thank you all!
Hey all thank you guys very much for replying to my thread! i'm really feeling okay instead of getting paranoid with my phone.. although i'd be very happy if you guys just clear me this last doubt!
today I was playing NOVA 3 connected to wifi in an ambient temperature of 25C, 5-10mins into gaming, CPU reaCHED A MAX OF 41c and at around 20 it maintaining at 43 but jumping sometimes 45.. this is gaming, but i get the same temperature just browsing in knda same ambient temp while I'm travelling. and also browsing in wifi/4g(fb,insta,chrome) in my house in ambient 25-27 gets the phone phone to 35-37... and the rest of the pat of the mobile is cool, even the back side is normal, only the small portion between the earpiece..
why is this happening? is this normal(it'd be great if you guys clear this)? if yup y so? and why phones like oneplus x and moto g4 etc have relatively less temp than OP3..
I know it'd be irritating to answer kinda same question again, but this would my help paranoiac freaking out for my mobile will go down..
thanks in advance for your replies

msvr3 said:
Hey all thank you guys very much for replying to my thread! i'm really feeling okay instead of getting paranoid with my phone.. although i'd be very happy if you guys just clear me this last doubt!
today I was playing NOVA 3 connected to wifi in an ambient temperature of 25C, 5-10mins into gaming, CPU reaCHED A MAX OF 41c and at around 20 it maintaining at 43 but jumping sometimes 45.. this is gaming, but i get the same temperature just browsing in knda same ambient temp while I'm travelling. and also browsing in wifi/4g(fb,insta,chrome) in my house in ambient 25-27 gets the phone phone to 35-37... and the rest of the pat of the mobile is cool, even the back side is normal, only the small portion between the earpiece..
why is this happening? is this normal(it'd be great if you guys clear this)? if yup y so? and why phones like oneplus x and moto g4 etc have relatively less temp than OP3..
I know it'd be irritating to answer kinda same question again, but this would my help paranoiac freaking out for my mobile will go down..
thanks in advance for your replies
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Because the Oneplus 3 is a lot faster, the Temps you are giving are n even close to hot... This has been one of the cooler phones so far.

Like others said, those temps are completely normal. Hell, I'd even expect them to be higher with your fairly high ambient temps.
About comparison with other phones - it all depends on internals and design. OP3 is made of aluminum so it'll dissipate more heat into the case - you'll feel it better. Other mentioned phones are plastic, so they'll contain more heat inside (you'll not feel so much heat, but the cpu may even run hotter).
And OP3 has cpu located just below the camera, so it's normal that it reaches top temps in that upper center part of the device.
P.S.: You talked about loads and ambient temps, but didn't mention screen brightness - that also plays a massive role in running temperatures.
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Explorer23 said:
Like others said, those temps are completely normal. Hell, I'd even expect them to be higher with your fairly high ambient temps.
About comparison with other phones - it all depends on internals and design. OP3 is made of aluminum so it'll dissipate more heat into the case - you'll feel it better. Other mentioned phones are plastic, so they'll contain more heat inside (you'll not feel so much heat, but the cpu may even run hotter).
And OP3 has cpu located just below the camera, so it's normal that it reaches top temps in that upper center part of the device.
P.S.: You talked about loads and ambient temps, but didn't mention screen brightness - that also plays a massive role in running temperatures.
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for me mostly brightness bar will be in the middle... i never use it with high brightness..

Just get a case and maybe a screen protector so that you can't feel it getting hot.

crzykiller said:
Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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hey ya !! sorry to disturb you again and again.. just a urios doubt.. what'd be the temperature of the phone or how hot can it gets, when u use 4g and fb app in ambient temperature of 29C and 33C..
mine got arounf 38-41 for the 1st cse and around 43 for the second case..
I know i'm being paranoid, ,but please, clearing tis would help stop worrying a bit

All the temps you posted are normal
About Moto g, it has much weaker SoC. A Ferrari's engine gets much more hotter than a toy car. Doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Ferrari
4G /3G active usage can get hotter than gaming. That's also normal

msvr3 said:
hey ya !! sorry to disturb you again and again.. just a urios doubt.. what'd be the temperature of the phone or how hot can it gets, when u use 4g and fb app in ambient temperature of 29C and 33C..
mine got arounf 38-41 for the 1st cse and around 43 for the second case..
I know i'm being paranoid, ,but please, clearing tis would help stop worrying a bit
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Nothing much to worry here. Even I use Jio all the time. My OP3 get a lot hotter than any other device I use before. Reasons I knew are these.
1. OP3 rock with a high end processor. Say SD 820. Other phones you mentioned are consisting of relatively lower end processor. So internally they might heat up more that OP3 while doing high processor intensive tasks, but the plastic casing keep the heat inside, as OP3 is made up of Aluminum that being a metal heats up so quickly and and u feel more hotter in hands than the other ones and also it cools faster.
2. AFAIK the processor is situated just below the Camera bump. Hence it heats up very quickly at that area. Irrespective of outside temperature.
3.While using 4G network it's obvious that the phonehave to communicate with the network at a very high rate than 2G or WiFi. So it's clear that it will heat up. Also using high processor intensive application like Facebook gives the processor high stress and it heats up in no time.
Remedies
1. Use a case. That somewhat helps in insulating the heat.
2.If possible use WiFi rather than 4G network. That will considerably helps your battery life.
Conclusion.
Don't worry about the warmth of the phone.Its normal. Just enjoy using the phone.
Never Settle.
Cheers.

Clearly never experienced a SD810 device. I'm sure Snapdragon took there name too seriously with that chipset. I could hit HIGH 80°c in seconds playing basic games, using the camera and under heavy usage. Had to tailer my use around my Z3+ but now I have the 3T I can do what I want and it never goes past 50°c so far.

Heat

Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Sony Xperia XZ Premium stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
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Mine has not yet heated at all! I have used Zarchiver to zip and unzip, several large games (modern combat 5, order and chaos 2 etc). Even in direct sunlight, the phone only became luke warm!

same story...this phone remains cold. in every condition.

for me it it the coolest phone i have ever had

I live in a tropical country, so the ambient temp is high most of the time. Despite that, my phone only gets really warm, but not too hot. Very impressed with the thermal management on this phone.

I just got back from Mexico. Jumped in the pool and didn't realize I left my phone sitting in the sun. According to GSam Battery Monitor, the temperature of my battery was at 50 degree Celsius and it was only luke warm to the touch. Very impressed. I was scared for my battery tho lol

i play Clash of Clans on my XZP and see the temps getting as high as 106 degrees. It's pretty warm in the back. Not sure how anyone is really able to say theirs is "cool" all the time.

PC is not cool when playing games. Why would be XPERIA XZ Premium cool when playing games?

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PC is not cool when playing games. Why would be XPERIA XZ Premium cool when playing games?
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Because its cpu's tdp is under 5 watts with the integrated gpu while a pc's cpu could easily go over 100 and have additional gpu and other heat inducing components around?
Don't get me wrong, many phones get hot during intensive gaming and that's not a huge minus considering they don't have cooling. Sony's done good job with it and it's on par with other flagships with sd 835 considering it's a pretty efficient chipset. It's just that the comparison you made was out of place.

Mine does get warm sometimes, but that's it. Just warm.
My old G3 used to get really hot near the Power/Volume buttons when gaming or running VR apps.
It's the kind of hot where you notice it, but it doesn't really bother you. Unlike my G3 where I had to move my fingers away from that area.
More importantly, it hasn't stopped an app or lowered the brightness due to heat yet.

Omg 50.7 dc

My phone can get hot doing VR stuff, but otherwise it seems near impossible to get it hot unless it's a very hot day and I'm out in the sun.
Then it's possible to get the camera app to warn about heat, although this has never actually progressed on to the point where the camera shuts down. Not like my Z3 where 10 minutes of photo taking and that was your lot.

The phone is amazing, I manage to record 4k videos more then 30 min and phone didnt need to turn off cus of heat, like on Z5P.
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Mine only gets warm when viewing 4K Youtube HDR video

Never had this phone overheat. Even when video calling over 4G.

pretty cool always, can get warm but only warm
in love with it, snapdragon 835 does the trick to prevent overheating.
although when viewing 4k content or in 4k mod it does get hot, but hey which device wouldnt showing 4k? im impressed

i live in Jakarta,Indonesia and my XZP only gets hot when the signal is weak.other than that the device is around 30 celcius to 37 celcius.

Well to add to this conversation , Got this phone and regarding heating it heats for sure in some situations, but not as much as Z3 dual in same situations (my previous phone) and I am not worry about heating as Z3 dual heats a lot when playing pokemon go on sunny days during summer and never had heat warring except playing same game in background while recorded HD video of car crash in front of me, that is only when I got heat warning on Z3. On XZ premium same situation I could feel some higher temperature in hand, but not even close to Z3 , and another worst situation is game pokemon go and mass evolving in game (who knows what is it) it brings Z3 to very high temp, while XZ premium gets up to with temp enough to be able to feel it. Zip large files with password 128 bit encryption or unzipping does not produce any heat on Xperia XZ premium, overall it is very cool phone.

My phone does heat when playing games like Shadowgun Legend and Modern Combat 5 but I didn't notice any throttling.

Mine was hot while i was filming 4k in a 34 degrees outside in the sun.
i simply solved it by dipping the phone in the pool voor 10seconds and it was fine again. made nice videos

What made you go with the Razer Phone

I am torn between upgrading my 6p to a 5t or Razer. I do play a ton of games, so the Razer phone looks amazing to me, can anyone with the phone or that bought the phone tell me why you went with it over other models? How is the battery life for the users out there? Do you get more than a days worth?

I came from a Nexus 6.
The reason I made the jump to the razer phone was mainly the price/quality ratio. Living in a world of £1000 Samsung's and iPhones just wasn't for me.
Love the phone so far.
Battery life has been superb, have had 7hrs SOT so far at the weekend and since it's been weekdays with less usage I've had around 4hrs screen on time and going to bed with 35-45% left which for me is incredible.
7hrs SOT screenshot. https://m.imgur.com/a/ivhrK

ItzMar said:
I came from a Nexus 6.
The reason I made the jump to the razer phone was mainly the price/quality ratio. Living in a world of £1000 Samsung's and iPhones just wasn't for me.
Love the phone so far.
Battery life has been superb, have had 7hrs SOT so far at the weekend and since it's been weekdays with less usage I've had around 4hrs screen on time and going to bed with 35-45% left which for me is incredible.
7hrs SOT screenshot. https://m.imgur.com/a/ivhrK
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I would like to ask one more question. I was watching a review on Youtube and the claimed the phone got warm during gaming... did you experience this? I mean I can take warm but I've had phones that got so hot that it made it super uncomfortable to hold even in Chicago winters.

It doesn't get hot. At least not like previous phones I've had. This might be dampened by the case though.
But to the op, I got it because it has better specs AND a better screen refresh rate. And that's before we even talk about the amazing speakers.
All I have to say is if this is razers FIRST phone and it beats other brands on their 5th+ generation models, uhhh, ya, I can't even imagine how Uber the 2nd gen will be.
I do believe this is where other companies are going to start putting Uber stereo front facing speakers and higher refresh rate screens on their phones.
Oh, and the stock Android experience is always a win. After having an s8 for a couple weeks I'll never buy some bloated, carrier branded crap again.

ItzMar said:
I came from a Nexus 6.
The reason I made the jump to the razer phone was mainly the price/quality ratio. Living in a world of £1000 Samsung's and iPhones just wasn't for me.
Love the phone so far.
Battery life has been superb, have had 7hrs SOT so far at the weekend and since it's been weekdays with less usage I've had around 4hrs screen on time and going to bed with 35-45% left which for me is incredible.
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Are you getting that SOT with fhd or qhd resolution? Once I set my default to 1080p I noticed a way better battery life. Gsmarenas battery review had me worried before I bought it. But now, with 1 hour of SOT at 87% battery I'm feeling much better.
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Depending on the game it varies, playing Kingdom Rush it doesnt even warm up at all.
Playing Asphalt or Titanfall it gets warm to failry warm.
Wouldnt describe it as hot though.
SOT was with 120hz, 1440p. Been getting such great battery life with my day to day usage that i havent seen the need to change anything.

Trying the phone with battery saver always on, 720p @60Hz, and 25-30% adaptive brightness, sometimes adjusting to 80% for outside, I'm so far hitting 5 hours screen on time with 48% battery life left. Doing a bunch of web, mail, vids, and texting, all over cell data. Launched titanfall too, to show a buddy for 5 minutes or so.

kungpaoshizi said:
It doesn't get hot. At least not like previous phones I've had. This might be dampened by the case though.
But to the op, I got it because it has better specs AND a better screen refresh rate. And that's before we even talk about the amazing speakers.
All I have to say is if this is razers FIRST phone and it beats other brands on their 5th+ generation models, uhhh, ya, I can't even imagine how Uber the 2nd gen will be.
I do believe this is where other companies are going to start putting Uber stereo front facing speakers and higher refresh rate screens on their phones.
Oh, and the stock Android experience is always a win. After having an s8 for a couple weeks I'll never buy some bloated, carrier branded crap again.
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Yeah, I've heard a ton of people complain about the waterproof or the phone jack but honestly, I have never plugged in headphones to any of my phones in like the past 3 years. I also don't go swimming or in the shower with my phone so that didn't matter to me. What I really love is that sound and that 120hz refresh rate. I know I might be one of the kind too, but the block look is so much sexier to me than the rounded features of some of the other phones. I am so on the fence between this phone and the 5t from OnePlus. I think what scares me the most about this phone is that its Razer's first phone, so I don't know how it will be or how the support from the community will be in terms of roms/kernels/etc.

Ya, waterproofing and headphone jacks I'll gladly trade for the crazy awesome experience I'm having so far. The screen is awesome, even with the defective bottom speaker (which it only took a day for Razer to send me the RMA email) it still gets louder than comfortable lol...
Premo multimedia, internet, and gaming experience. I would still like it if they gave it a 6-7" screen, but this is great!!!!!

Lots of streaming video time so far, web time, 5mins of titanfall to show someone. Battery saver on the whole time, [email protected], Bluetooth on for a bit, emailing, lots of texting...

Xeraphim98 said:
Yeah, I've heard a ton of people complain about the waterproof or the phone jack but honestly, I have never plugged in headphones to any of my phones in like the past 3 years. I also don't go swimming or in the shower with my phone so that didn't matter to me. What I really love is that sound and that 120hz refresh rate. I know I might be one of the kind too, but the block look is so much sexier to me than the rounded features of some of the other phones. I am so on the fence between this phone and the 5t from OnePlus. I think what scares me the most about this phone is that its Razer's first phone, so I don't know how it will be or how the support from the community will be in terms of roms/kernels/etc.
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That’s what I’m worried about also, I’m still stuck between the 5t or this phone. Such a hard decision to make. ( first world problems lol)
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Hands down this phone is a beast! Spec wise it has everything the rest do but with better screen and speakers.. 120hz screen is just amazing, and a first.. Plus how many phones these days still have expandable storage? Sure the software is light of some features but you know that's just a matter of time to fix. IMHO the only thing holding this phone back atm is waiting on razer to release code and factory images.. Once that happens you will see alot more developers jumping onboard. It's as near pure android as can be without being a google phone and alot of developers like that as it makes it easier to work with.

Xeraphim98 said:
Yeah, I've heard a ton of people complain about the waterproof or the phone jack but honestly, I have never plugged in headphones to any of my phones in like the past 3 years. I also don't go swimming or in the shower with my phone so that didn't matter to me. What I really love is that sound and that 120hz refresh rate. I know I might be one of the kind too, but the block look is so much sexier to me than the rounded features of some of the other phones. I am so on the fence between this phone and the 5t from OnePlus. I think what scares me the most about this phone is that its Razer's first phone, so I don't know how it will be or how the support from the community will be in terms of roms/kernels/etc.
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I also like the "block look" as you mention...and that is why I went with the Sony XZ Premium. I do not have the Razer phone but I am looking hard at it because I need loud stereo speakers for outdoors video presentations. I do wish they had a headphone jack though because I do like being able to listen to whatever while having the phone plugged in to recharge the battery at the same time. I do not use Bluetooth at all, much less for headphones. So this is what hold me back for now.

Anyone holding out for incentives/etc..... Razer is currently throwing in a pair of Hammerhead V2 earbuds (use Discount Code PHONEUP at checkout:
https://www.razerzone.com/promos/gift-guide-17#razer-phone
https://www.razerzone.com/gaming-audio/razer-hammerhead-v2
I know,a bit of irony/WTH here,as the 3.5mm jack is MIA (I don't mind the dongle,but,in no way am I speaking for all here,I know I'm likely in the minority).
A choice between this or a case combo pack woulda been a nice option,but,there ya go.....................................
....................................................................PSST,hey Santa Razer,a temporary price cut woulda made a nice gift for the season !

This makes me smile
https://www.androidbenchmark.net/passmark_chart.html