[Q] Games drain battery almost 40% an hour? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

[Q] Games drain battery almost 40% an hour? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I got the LG G4 last week and every time I game on the phone, it uses 38% of my battery or so per hour. Is this normal? Nothing else uses much battery, the gaming optimizer is on and I've disabled extra apps I don't need.
I also notice my phone gets too hot to touch sometimes when playing a game.
At this rate I only get a little over 2 hours of use on a fully charged phone, which is crazy.
I have the Tmobile version, if that matters.
Does this happen to anyone else? My Samsung S4 and Xperia Z3 Compact had MUCH better gaming time than my G4. Maybe I have a dud?

Omgiloveshineythings said:
I got the LG G4 last week and every time I game on the phone, it uses 38% of my battery or so per hour. Is this normal? Nothing else uses much battery, the gaming optimizer is on and I've disabled extra apps I don't need.
I also notice my phone gets too hot to touch sometimes when playing a game.
At this rate I only get a little over 2 hours of use on a fully charged phone, which is crazy.
I have the Tmobile version, if that matters.
Does this happen to anyone else? My Samsung S4 and Xperia Z3 Compact had MUCH better gaming time than my G4. Maybe I have a dud?
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Sounds about right if its an intense game. It has to push 2k pixels, where as the s4 and z3 has much fewer. I kept having weird glitches with the game optimizer on playing final fantasy record keeper, so I turned it off and things worked fine. For that game it was probably closer to 30% an hour for me. I also have my brightness 35% or less too. Try turning off the game optimizer and see what happens. What is your brightness?

frigidazzi said:
Sounds about right if its an intense game. It has to push 2k pixels, where as the s4 and z3 has much fewer. I kept having weird glitches with the game optimizer on playing final fantasy record keeper, so I turned it off and things worked fine. For that game it was probably closer to 30% an hour for me. I also have my brightness 35% or less too. Try turning off the game optimizer and see what happens. What is your brightness?
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Is there any way to lower the pixel density so it doesn't have to push such high quality graphics? Another person said they thought the g4 is a terrible option for gaming because it has a bad GPU and that might be why it gets hot as well. I tend to play games on my phone alot when I'm waiting for something or bored so losing 38% battery an hour makes the phone a terrible fit for me. I have 14 days to return it, so I'm thinking about getting a phone like the s5 or something.
I'll try turning the optimizer off and see if that changes anything. My brightness depends on where I am but at home i keep it at about 30%.

Lower the graphics quality in the game and turn down the brightness, you can't do much more.
And 40% sounds completely reasonable.

This is what I noticed playing Juice Jam. It drains fast with auto brightness (50%). I'll try disabling game optimizer and see if it does anything.

Not much you can do except fiddle with the brightness.
And you're correct with the G4 not being a good gaming device. The GPU isn't exactly the greatest but still formidable. But with that 1440p screen, you can't expect magic. I would only do minor casual gaming on this thing (ie. Checking up on village in COC sort of thing with a few raids), nothing intense. Otherwise you would need a different phone. The Sony Xperia (Z3 I think?) are good for gaming with their insane battery life. S6 would be your next best bet.

Jumped here only to mention the Z3 battery life ... It is worth every penny when it comes to screen on time. By the end of the day it hits 5~6 hours of sot mainly gaming where as the g4 hardly gets 3~4 hours of moderate use.
Currently own both the Z3 and the G4 and both in dual SIM versions too
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Yes, you can lower the pixel density. That will probably cause some UI inconsistencies throughout the phone, but most things should work, but from seeing it on the Note 4, a lot of things won't as well.
I'd say, don't fret. You're getting 2 hours of playing games on your phone... If you picked the G4 for THAT reason, return it. Surely there are better phones, as mentioned, the Z3 has great battery life - probably the best for a phone its size. There's also the OPO and the Zen Mate 7. All have GREAT battery life, but of course, lack in other features.
Would I have preferred a 1080p screen? Yes! Why do I need a higher quality screen in my phone than in my living room? Lol. Is there anything I can do about this now that we already have this 2k screen frenzy? Nope. Even the next Sony device us rumored to jump onto its bandwagon as well...

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OG Pro Heating and Screen Dimming

How hot does the OG Pro get? What is the maximum brightness you can set it to when the phone is at its hottest?
I've seen a Youtube video wherein a guy was playing a game for just 1 minute or so when brightness dropped significantly. That was for the Korean version though.

It drops to 76% at its "hottest" which is really just lukewarm heh. The only time it happens to me is when I'm outside in the sun (I live in orlando fl mind u). But honestly I leave it on auto at 50% and even in the fl sun I can see the screen perfectly...
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LG PRO go or NO!!!!!
I would be very cautious of purchasing a phone with overheat issues, such as the LG G Pro. I had the privilege of owning and I have extensively tested the Galaxy 4, HTC one, and LG PRO. The LG model was the only phone that had overheated warnings and disabled brightness. I was in a well vented air conditioned building while testing. I am not stating all LG models will be the same. I will say look closely at how many people have had the device shut down or give warnings and it even happened during a CNET review. The LG phone is a great phone, just dont feel like you have to buy a device just because. I am pretty sure better models that don't over heat as often will soon be released.

Since the SGS4, HTC One and OG Pro all use Snapdragon 600, if OG Pro is the only one that "overheated", maybe it's safe to assume that a software update can fix this.

I chalk up any overheating issues to a bad phone. There have been reports of the S4 overheating and while I had mine it never did that and my OG Pro hasn't either so far. Its a mini computer so anything can happen.

I just played with a display model in the AT&T store. The phone was shut off and I used it heavily for about 30 mins running a combination of GLBench, Youtube video, Google+ browsing... The screen dimmed to 92% after running GLBench Egypt 4 times in a row and that wasnt such a big deal.. The worst offender was Youtube while watching video. I watched a video for just a couple mins and the display dropped to 84% and at that point I was really noticing how dark certain colors were looking, like greens and blues. The G Pro is such a gorgeous phone and I really want to pick this up but im worried about this display issue. A 16% display brightness drop while in an air conditioned building after a few mins of watching a video is a problem!
I can only hope for a software update to help this... Otherwise I may join the GN2 bandwagon.

Jasbo said:
I just played with a display model in the AT&T store. The phone was shut off and I used it heavily for about 30 mins running a combination of GLBench, Youtube video, Google+ browsing... The screen dimmed to 92% after running GLBench Egypt 4 times in a row and that wasnt such a big deal.. The worst offender was Youtube while watching video. I watched a video for just a couple mins and the display dropped to 84% and at that point I was really noticing how dark certain colors were looking, like greens and blues. The G Pro is such a gorgeous phone and I really want to pick this up but im worried about this display issue. A 16% display brightness drop while in an air conditioned building after a few mins of watching a video is a problem!
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No it is not. It's not a problem of the phone.
Would you mind watching this video?
How many models of top '13year smartphones do you know which allow you keep 100% brightness over prolonged period of time been well under heavy load (gaming, benching) at the same time?
The HTC One has autobrightness feature which silently lowers brightness w/o even notifying you about it. The SGS4 as you've seen, notifies you about the brightness level has been decreased and cannot be raised to full
Jasbo said:
I can only hope for a software update to help this... Otherwise I may join the GN2 bandwagon.
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Of course it won't

Well like I said I keep mine at 50% and can use it in full daylight. Ive gotten it to warm up a little but that was stressing it by playing dungeon hunter 4 over 4g and in the 90 degree florida sun. And even after like 2 hrs it only dropped to 76%. That just what I experienced...
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The only time my phone gets anywhere near "hot" is when I play GTA: Vice City with everything maxed out. It runs that game like a dream, BTW.

RaiderDuck said:
The only time my phone gets anywhere near "hot" is when I play GTA: Vice City with everything maxed out. It runs that game like a dream, BTW.
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Would you know exactly how hot it gets in C? And the max level of brightness the phone is limited to at that point?

Sharpshooterrr said:
Would you know exactly how hot it gets in C? And the max level of brightness the phone is limited to at that point?
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No idea about the exact temp. I did not notice any screen dimming.

RaptorMD said:
I chalk up any overheating issues to a bad phone. There have been reports of the S4 overheating and while I had mine it never did that and my OG Pro hasn't either so far. Its a mini computer so anything can happen.
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There's reports on the sg4 and the one getting very hot this is a issue with all three phones wonder if its the 600 processor chip.
Sent from my LG-E980 using xda premium

You can go to the hidden menu and disable the temp throtle. And the screen will be at 100% regardless of temp. But do it under your own risk. I actually got a higher score in antutu by doing it. But for normal use i keep it on. Only for games i disable the temp throtle. Theres a thread on how to do it somewhere in here.
If you don't find then: Open system menu by dialing 3845#*980#, go down the list, find items "High temperature property OFF" and "Thermal mitigation daemon OFF", check them both to Enabled ON & presto...with thermal mitigation daemon disabled you can achieve as high as 24700 in Antutu and the screen would not dim in hot conditions anymore.
Under your own risk. There's a reason why LG make this.
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there aren't "overheating" issues. phones are computers and computers get hot, and phones can get hotter than most think is normal when they are actually just at normal operating temperatures. i have a nexus 4 and i have read about others getting their phone up to 90 degrees Celsius before it shut itself down because of the possible battery damage at this high of temps (this was when they were testing to see how hot it can get). even though my nexus feels hot the most mine has gotten to is about 50 degrees celsius which is well within the normal cpu range. now, hot batteries are a different issue, but the plastic in the ogpro is able to distribute the heat away from the battery, so the phone getting pretty hot is not an issue. i mean, obviously if your phone is getting up to 90 C then that could be overheating, but it doesnt sound like anyone has really gotten above 55 C which is perfectly normal and wont damage your phone even though it feels hot. if your worried about your phone getting hot then you can download "CPU+Temp V2" from the play store (its a widget) to see how hot your phone actually is. if you dont like the dimming screen then you can always disable it, but i dont think it is a big deal that it does it because i keep my phone brightness below 75 anyway.
stop worrying about your phone getting warm and just use it!

mbucks911 said:
if you dont like the dimming screen then you can always disable it
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How do you disable it?

Mine gets E980 get mildly hot just like the Note II but the S4 gets so hot that it starts to lag trust met thats why i switched it for this one

I was having some high heat issues but did a soft reset and it seams to have fixed it... not to mention I have more free RAM and battery life improved a little...
The soft reset consists of removing the battery while the device is on and leaving it out four about 2 minutes. Then reinstall battery and turn on & presto problem solved at least for me.:thumbup:
OG PRO

The thermal throttling/shut off starts at 50C (122F) while the phones are able to go up to 55C (132F). Editing the thermald.conf fixes the throttling / shutdowns.
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My phone gets quite hot when just browsing and also when it reboots is this normal?
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read me!
A genuine unbiased reply, cuz I have G Pro, S4 and 808!
G Pro is a beautiful butterfly!
Though It has some heating issues. The maximum brightness you can set at the "hottest" is 76%, while is 24% less than the max, anything above 30% would be excellent for indoors, believe me!(you will get habitual to it soon, its good for eyes and affects battery performance too!)
I have GT Racing 2 and Asphalt Airborne. While playing with brightness under ~60, phone doesn't heats up!
It does so only when the load is much, and the screen is above ~75!
(save for 60-75, its a no mans land.. lol )
In a (very)bright sunny day, you will have to use 100%, else 50% will do!
ONE REAL BATTERY KILLER IS IR-EMITTER!
Newbies usually blame huge 1080p screen for eating battery, but in this phone, the IR-remote(app/hardware, idc) is the real problem!
To save battery, avoid using remote, and disable Quickset SetUp and Quickset SDK in Setting>Apps>Inbuilt!
Else everything is fine!
FOR NEWBIES,
As far as 3rd party software support is concerned, I haven't seen any proper ROM other than CM 10.2!
For me, LG UI is better than TouchWiz!
Its Lite(Technically)
it has got themes(icons+widgets), animation effects for home screen, lock screen effects, dual-layout icon set launcher(these are main things most people need a custom launcher for)
Its fast(faster than S4-S600 and equivalent to Note 3-S800 for me!)
I love this phone!
Literally, NOT BIASED!
I MAINTAIN MY PHONE MEMORY(RAM) AND KEEP PURGING MY EXTRA TEMPORARY FILES
MAY BE THATS WHY MINE IS FASTER THAN YOURS!
NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE
tc
Any more ques about this phone?
PM me!
Press thanks if this helps! :angel:

[Q] Considering on purchasing the z5 premium

As the title states I am thinking on making a purchase for the z5 premium. My question is fast forward to about a year,how has the phone been holding up on a day to day use? Heating issues still occur? Worse,same,better? Battery life has taken a a hit? Are you satisfied with whenever you've purchased the z5 premium from day 1 at launch or recent purchase? How's the image quality on the camera performance? Any other info on how the z5 premium is doing since you purchased it is greatly appreciated. Thanks

Im completely happy with the phone performance, bought in November 2015 (just when launched). Battery still good, if I dont game too much, almost two days depending if at home with wifi or at work with 4g and elevators (loss of signal) several times a day, but always at least the whole day. It heats only with 3D heavy games or during the summer if you use it a lot outside, but always usable. Video recording stopped once while driving in a mountain road because of the sun, at summer. I recommend the phone and a case because I broke the display with a small drop (search for my post for further explanation xD). The camera is very good for the use I give to it
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ifilgud said:
Im completely happy with the phone performance, bought in November 2015 (just when launched). Battery still good, if I dont game too much, almost two days depending if at home with wifi or at work with 4g and elevators (loss of signal) several times a day, but always at least the whole day. It heats only with 3D heavy games or during the summer if you use it a lot outside, but always usable. Video recording stopped once while driving in a mountain road because of the sun, at summer. I recommend the phone and a case because I broke the display with a small drop (search for my post for further explanation xD). The camera is very good for the use I give to it
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Thank you for the info. Sounds good I will probably be going forward with the purchase. Only thing that gets me worried is using the phone outside in the sun as you said it's gets hot. I live in vegas so it gets pretty got here lol but luckily it's already cooling down so i should be okay.

I too am considering buying it..what is the screen on time ? And how fast is the charging and fingerprint reader ?

The Screen on time, today for example has been 3 hours and 3/4 of the battery gone, but I've moving in the car and using 4G data a lot, so other days it is higher (I usually don't look a it, I'm happy just if the phone reaches the end of the day after high usage because I don't watch a lot of videos or movies, but I turn the screen on a lot of times due to instant messaging). I don't like the screen very dim during the day and I've it always above 50%, so it last less for me than for others I think.
The charging is fast, it comes with a fast charger but not the fastest available, and the battery comes to 60-70% quite fast (I haven't measured the time taken), and from 90-100 it takes a lot more time, but I think this is normal for such big batteries. When charging from low percentages, you have the feeling that it is going quite fast.
The fingerprint reader works really cool and fast, as long as you have it clean and no sweat in the fingers. In summer I've had to clean the sensor (with the t-shirt for example) and/or the fingers due to high temperatures (above 40º in Spain a lot of days), but in a more "normal" wheather and environment, it usually works always at first try, I'm very satisfied with it.
About getting hot, it does but the phone always works and you only feel it very very warm after gaming with heavy games for a while. For the normal use of the phone usually it is comfortable to use althoug you can feel it warm if using Google Maps or similar things outside when its hot. The heat usually can be felt in the back, and if you hold it on the sides you don't notice. I sense the screen hot when using a racing game called Real Racing 3, and as you control the game with the fingers if you desire, after a while the screen becomes very hot. No other scenario have made the phone really hot.
I've to add that the screen is very very nice, the definition and max brightness are superb. When viewing 4K content, if you compare with the same image at 1080, you notice the details, and 4K video seems complete real. I recommend watching this sample http://4ksamples.com/4k-chimei-inn-60mbps/.
The sound is very cool, when on noisy enviroments the volume it is not very high, but the double front speakers sounds very nice even for music (no metal can sound).
I hope I've answered you doubts

My SOT is around 5 hours, but that's with screen dimmed.
I don't think it's terrible, but it's short, but I'm always considering this phone being 4k sceen, we have no choice.
It's just good feeling to have 4k view capable phone. It could also be smallest 4k screen now?

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I've to add that the screen is very very nice, the definition and max brightness are superb. When viewing 4K content, if you compare with the same image at 1080, you notice the details, and 4K video seems complete real. I recommend watching this sample http://4ksamples.com/4k-chimei-inn-60mbps/.
I hope I've answered you doubts
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Do you feel screen is better than a regular full HD screen when comparing with other phones?

I can compare it with a S6 and S7 because of relatives that have those and I don't see differences (apart from excessive colors of Samsung phones). You won't be able to see any pixel, the angles are almost 180º and the brigthness is very high (only in the street with a high sun you will have problems, like any other phone) and the low limit for the night is great also.

Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Sony Xperia XZ Premium before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Got 6hrs @ 50%

karrouma said:
Got 6hrs @ 50%
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that is amazing !!!
how did you reached this time?
please answer these
-screen brightness
-stamina use or not
-airplane mode
-how was your usage ( heavy or medium or ....)
-do you charge your phone with fast charge or not ?
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ashkan.t said:
that is amazing !!!
how did you reached this time?
please answer these
-screen brightness
-stamina use or not
-airplane mode
-how was your usage ( heavy or medium or ....)
-do you charge your phone with fast charge or not ?
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Screen brightness @40%
No stamina
Wifi and mobile data are on
Using heavy some time and medium usage
I used original charger in the box
Rooted with storm fix

karrouma said:
Screen brightness @40%
No stamina
Wifi and mobile data are on
Using heavy some time and medium usage
I used original charger in the box
Rooted with storm fix
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(Rooted with storm fix)
so that is the reason for your high screen time
what is your charger model ? UCH12 ?
if it is uch12 so you are using fast charge

ashkan.t said:
(Rooted with storm fix)
so that is the reason for your high screen time
what is your charger model ? UCH12 ?
if it is uch12 so you are using fast charge
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yep

im getting 8-9 hours with 3-3.5 hours of asphalt 8 gameplay on high graphics, one or two movies on youtube, full low brightness (35% on movies in YT), heavy facebook usage. and a lot of other things like video editing, whats, HG,G+ etc etc.
uninstalled all useless system and user apps. added play services in doze mode. reduced background activity and background data on all user and system apps.
using 1890x3360 resolution (to fix touch issues).

Im on oreo (.51) with storms DRM Fix/kernel, I used serajrs debloat script to get rid of all the useless apps, 8.45 hours with 13% left, this phone is a beast! Mobile data all day, stamina on performance, some YouTube, lots of browsing, telegram msg's, couldnt ask for better.

So are you guys getting these insane screen on times due to root? If so what are you doing to achieve this?
If not rooted what are you doing to get these kind of screen on times

dieselhazza said:
So are you guys getting these insane screen on times due to root? If so what are you doing to achieve this?
If not rooted what are you doing to get these kind of screen on times
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Hi,
My device isn't rooted and this is what I do to get the most out of the battery...
1. I try to never allow the battery to get hot in order to prolong its excellent performance. If you're charging your phone, don't run heavy draining apps as this will greatly increase the battery's temperature. When charging my phone, I usually set stamina mode to always on and if I'm not expecting important phone calls I sometimes activate airplane mode. If you want to make and receive calls just turn off Bluetooth, wife, data and GPS while the phone is plugged in to keep the battery temperature down.
2. I used to love the Juice Defender app which was able to automatically turn off Wife/Data whenever the screen is off but sadly it hasn't been updated in so many years. Now I just manually turn off WiFi and Data whenever the phone is not in use.
3. If you're watching an offline film or reading a book, turn off your WiFi and Data. Again, if you're not looking to make calls activate Airplane Mode as this tends to lessen the battery drain especially when watching 4k movies.
4. Delete any apps that you don't use. Especially the power hungry apps!
5. I only tend to set brightness to the lowest setting when I'm in a very dark room. There's no point in always having it so low in broad daylight like a disorientated cave-dweller.
6. When you go to bed, activate stamina mode (if you want to save more juice then also activate Airplane Mode) and just make sure that it won't affect your alarm in the morning. ?
That's pretty much it for me I guess. Rooting voids the warranty and that's not something I want to do so I'm happy with my current usage and performance.
Hope this helps!

SNOOPLAYAN said:
Hi,
My device isn't rooted and this is what I do to get the most out of the battery...
1. I try to never allow the battery to get hot in order to prolong its excellent performance. If you're charging your phone, don't run heavy draining apps as this will greatly increase the battery's temperature. When charging my phone, I usually set stamina mode to always on and if I'm not expecting important phone calls I sometimes activate airplane mode. If you want to make and receive calls just turn off Bluetooth, wife, data and GPS while the phone is plugged in to keep the battery temperature down.
2. I used to love the Juice Defender app which was able to automatically turn off Wife/Data whenever the screen is off but sadly it hasn't been updated in so many years. Now I just manually turn off WiFi and Data whenever the phone is not in use.
3. If you're watching an offline film or reading a book, turn off your WiFi and Data. Again, if you're not looking to make calls activate Airplane Mode as this tends to lessen the battery drain especially when watching 4k movies.
4. Delete any apps that you don't use. Especially the power hungry apps!
5. I only tend to set brightness to the lowest setting when I'm in a very dark room. There's no point in always having it so low in broad daylight like a disorientated cave-dweller.
6. When you go to bed, activate stamina mode (if you want to save more juice then also activate Airplane Mode) and just make sure that it won't affect your alarm in the morning.
That's pretty much it for me I guess. Rooting voids the warranty and that's not something I want to do so I'm happy with my current usage and performance.
Hope this helps!
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You can also try to turn off the phone, this will bring excellent battery life :cyclops:
Just kidding :silly:
By the way, root seems to improve a lot the phone, but I have Amazon warranty and would be a shame to lose it for rooting the phone

alexs784 said:
You can also try to turn off the phone, this will bring excellent battery life :cyclops:
Just kidding :silly:
By the way, root seems to improve a lot the phone, but I have Amazon warranty and would be a shame to lose it for rooting the phone
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Hahahahaahahhaha
Yes that's one of the reasons why I'm not too keen on rooting. Rooting the device will also cause some issues that currently have no fix available so I'm good for now.
I can capture excellent stills and beautiful 4k footage. I get around 9-10 hours of screen on time with moderate to heavy use. Everything works as it should so I'm very happy with that.

3.5 hrs loosing 40%
I think for normal daily usage xzp got between 7-8 hrs
The seco d day reached [email protected]% of battery

Well, by my own experience, going out to work at 7:00, getting home at about 18:30 (plus commuting, as I was doing it in the bus too), I was reading an EPUB the whole day (Moon Reader+), black background with white text, the app prevents the screen from turning off, and I hardly had any reason besides lunch break to turn it off, I noticed I had forgotten the cable at the end of lunch break and took out brightness to about 35%, enough to be readable for me, it was on auto until them, no stamina mode either.
I got home with about 40% of battery left. I was quite surprised with my results.

Can get more than 20 hrs of SOT now
Look @The screenshoti taked after long day
5.5 hrs of SOT and 47% battery remaning

I get an average of 6 1/2 hours SOT with heavy gaming and brightness set to around 30%
Otherwise 2-3 days standby with medium to little use. I am impressed.
Ps. When gaming, is the screen running in 1080P or 4k?? How can we tell?

kanej2006 said:
I get an average of 6 1/2 hours SOT with heavy gaming and brightness set to around 30%
Otherwise 2-3 days standby with medium to little use. I am impressed.
Ps. When gaming, is the screen running in 1080P or 4k?? How can we tell?
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It is 1080p

SPeaky said:
It is 1080p
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Thanks for clearing that. This means that we only get 4k when viewing 4k movies? However, by default we are getting 1080p which includes gaming.
It would be nice if we could run games in 4k. Why have a 4k screen which is only running 1080P?
Same as buying a 4k TV/Monitor and gaming at 1080P. :crying:
At least we should have an option to change resolution like a PC when gaming, would make sense.Even gaming at 1440P would look amazing. Some games have visible jagged edges which would be eliminated if running at resolutions higher than 1080P...

kanej2006 said:
Thanks for clearing that. This means that we only get 4k when viewing 4k movies? However, by default we are getting 1080p which includes gaming.
It would be nice if we could run games in 4k. Why have a 4k screen which is only running 1080P?
Same as buying a 4k TV/Monitor and gaming at 1080P. :crying:
At least we should have an option to change resolution like a PC when gaming, would make sense.Even gaming at 1440P would look amazing. Some games have visible jagged edges which would be eliminated if running at resolutions higher than 1080P...
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hey could you please us all how much you paid for the PC that lets enjoy 4k gaming? and how much room it takes.
I'm not trying to underestimate the power of Snapdragon 835, but you surely don't understand that even GTX 1080 doesn't play all the games flawlessly in 4K

saved-j said:
hey could you please us all how much you paid for the PC that lets enjoy 4k gaming? and how much room it takes.
I'm not trying to underestimate the power of Snapdragon 835, but you surely don't understand that even GTX 1080 doesn't play all the games flawlessly in 4K
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Then you must not heard of GTX 1080 TI?? 30% better performance than the standard GTX 1080. I am able to play any game fully maxed, ultra settings at 4k with an average of 80-100 fps thank you very much...

Question Question about your guys battery life accurately app.

I'm wondering what kinda battery life you get on the zfold3. When I opened youtube with the big screen on my accusatory app says it dr omegle ains 32%/hr does anyone else have any knowledge of if this is normal rate or high? I got it on ebay so I'm trying to make sure that everything is running as expected.
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Also if I open lifeafter and play it while fast charging the back of the phone gets really realty hot! Think it was in the 120-130° range xender and screen goes really dim. Anyone else experience this on any slightly more demanding games?

When I watch videos on YouTube with the Fold open I have the same behavior as you, I reduced this by forcing the refresh to 48hz on the videos. For games I don't know, however it consumes when open.

Use manual brightness control and keep below 50% Display brightness sucks a lot of battery.
Using dark mode and wallpaper helps too.
Black pixels use no power... darker ones use a lot less.

Once the OS learns your usage patterns, you should experience much better battery life. That usually take around a month or 2.

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Once the OS learns your usage patterns, you should experience much better battery life. That usually take around a month or 2.
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Lol, it never worked that I saw. Google global power management and it's tarded buckets will also cause erratic behaviors that can't be resolved unless you turn it off.
Hand optimizing is better, harder to do... but it works.

Question Disappointed in S22 Snapdragon Battery Life and Heating Issues

I got S22 Snapdragon Variant but the battery still sucks and phone heats up much after I have done the following.
1. Followed [GUIDE] [NO-ROOT] Complete Samsung OneUI Optimization
- Most settings applied
- Phone set up without Smart Switch
- Adaptive Battery disabled
2. Installed [App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
- Adaptive Refresh on Power-Saving mode On
- Adaptive Min 10Hz, and Max 120Hz
- Force Lowest Hz on screen-off (10Hz)
2. Installed ®FDE.AI - Ultimate Android Optimizer
- Power-Saving mode
- Force Doze Mode On
- Sensors Off on screen off
- Analyze Apps on screen off
3. S22 Settings
- Sync disabled
- Always-On Display - Tap to show
- NFC, Location, off when not in use
- Power Saving mode 24/7
I am seriously tempted to get a Pixel 5 instead, which I am willing to sacrifice the performance + 120Hz because I'm just another daily user.
Is there a way to underclock Snapdragon 8 Gen 1?
Let us hear your thoughts too. Thanks.

Which s22 model do you have?
Also I felt like I got more battery drain with adaptive battery off so I kept it on but slept all apps except ones i need notifications for
I have the 901e and updated to the Vietnamese firmware avdf running very similar set up to you getting 7 - 9h sot
Try removing that optimiser and using the doze setting in galaxy max hz
Also 96hz works with power saving on
Get galaxy app booster it's with in good guardians (can just download the apks online if you can't find it in the galaxy store) from what I've read it wipes dalvik cache

I'm on S22 SM-910E/DS.
I see... I'll give it a try on your suggestions!
But do you still face quite abit of heat during screen on and using of phone after the tweaks?

Gymcode said:
I'm on S22 SM-910E/DS.
I see... I'll give it a try on your suggestions!
But do you still face quite abit of heat during screen on and using of phone after the tweaks?
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No heat at all, also in battery powersave settings you can limit the CPU to 70% (in case you didn't know already) from what I can see in adb it's on even when powersaving isnt

Mine is an SM-S9010. I rooted it and did some work on it. I turned off cores, underclocked it, turned off adaptive battery and so on. With all the things I tried, the SOT differs from charge to charge. I stopped even gaming altogether on it. I managed to get 30 more minutes out of it.
So the average SOT for me sits at 4h. I've got the Prime core and the last Middle core turned off, the Little cores underclocked to 1.5GHz and the rest to 1.9. The phone still overheats but the drain is slightly better.
Then there's the idle drain. The main culprit is Google's notorious Play Services crap with its services framework and all the other Google BS. I even installed a module to let it be optimized/dozed. It worked half the time. The other half the drain was even higher than before so it did worse than good. Now I've got Battery Guru installed and this thing monitors everything I need, plus it has a lot of stuff embedded in it, like the Quick Doze mod, power saver and Sensors Off with the screen off, etc. I've got the Powersaver on after the screen turns off and Data saver, and the idle drain sits at ~1%/hour. It goes at 0.7-1%/h, during the night unless the Play Services start spasming again, and they tend to do that a lot. And before having someone suggest a fix, please don't. I tried them all. They're just temporary solving the issue.
So yeah, there's no way in HELL someone can convince me they get 7-9h SOT cause that's just silly and exaggerated lying for a reason I don't understand.
In a 20h time frame the battery will lose 30% while the phone is idling. That includes ~10% which goes to some music listening and calls. I'm then left with 70%. After cutting off the 10-15% at which I plug in the phone, I'm left with ~60% of actual battery for the SOT. That means ~2150mAh. The battery is simply too small to be capable of anything more.
If you watch hours of YouTube, yeah, the SOT will turn out better because you're barely touching the screen once in a while and the CPU does the bare minimum and nothing overheats or goes into seizure mode. And the longer you use it in a smaller time frame, the better the results. When you use it over a longer period of time, go from idle to active use, idle again, and so on, that's when things start to take shape, so to speak. Then the moment you start scrolling and loading and loading things on Reddit or TikTok for example, or you browse the web, switch between apps and so on, things also change. The CPU will jump from a range of frequencies and produce more heat. The battery will share some of that heat and thing will get hot relatively hot soon, especially if it's hot outside. That translates into even poorer battery performance cause the hotter it gets, the worse the active drain is. And also, the lower the percentage, the worse the drain is too, I have noticed since I got this piece of crap phone. But yeah, if outside it's hot AF, the phone will be hot too. Today here where I live it's 30C right now. Using this thing and doing nothing intensive on it still gets it hot. It's too small to dissipate heat properly. Those saying "not heat here" etc, it's not possible unless you live in a slightly colder climate.
Not to forget to mention, I debloated this thing, removing pretty much everything Samsung included and I left only their bare minimum BS. Did it solve anything? Yes and no. It's a small difference but definitely not as big as I was expecting. It mainly reduces the idle drain, but like I said, the difference is extremely minimal.
I used a Pixel 5 last year. It was a great little phone. The battery life was fantastic on that thing. It was basically the first phone I've ever had with such a great battery life. The I moved to an iPhone 13 Pro. The one was even better. I never had to worry about running out of battery. Then after getting bored with iOS, I preordered an S22. Did I even consider the battery life? Absolutely not.
In conclusion, if you keep trying to find a solution to the problem, you won't fix much. Thing might improve today but tomorrow you'll be disappointed again the cycle starts again the next day.
The 8 Gen 1 built on Samsung's 4nm architecture is absolutely rubbish. It's terrible in terms of efficiency and when you pair it with a tiny battery you get a Galaxy S22, the devil child sent on Earth to destroy your mental health.
So don't bother trying much. Just use the phone as is try to use it as is. Just have a power bank with you when you're away and you're fine. Otherwise you won't enjoy the phone one bit. I, for instance, got to a point where I took it out of the case and now I use it with just a screen protector and the rest completely unprotected. If I drop it and it gets smashed into a million pieces, I don't care. Cause this is the worst phone I've ever had In my life. It's hard to like.

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Mine is an SM-S9010. I rooted it and did some work on it. I turned off cores, underclocked it, turned off adaptive battery and so on. With all the things I tried, the SOT differs from charge to charge. I stopped even gaming altogether on it. I managed to get 30 more minutes out of it.
So the average SOT for me sits at 4h. I've got the Prime core and the last Middle core turned off, the Little cores underclocked to 1.5GHz and the rest to 1.9. The phone still overheats but the drain is slightly better.
Then there's the idle drain. The main culprit is Google's notorious Play Services crap with its services framework and all the other Google BS. I even installed a module to let it be optimized/dozed. It worked half the time. The other half the drain was even higher than before so it did worse than good. Now I've got Battery Guru installed and this thing monitors everything I need, plus it has a lot of stuff embedded in it, like the Quick Doze mod, power saver and Sensors Off with the screen off, etc. I've got the Powersaver on after the screen turns off and Data saver, and the idle drain sits at ~1%/hour. It goes at 0.7-1%/h, during the night unless the Play Services start spasming again, and they tend to do that a lot. And before having someone suggest a fix, please don't. I tried them all. They're just temporary solving the issue.
So yeah, there's no way in HELL someone can convince me they get 7-9h SOT cause that's just silly and exaggerated lying for a reason I don't understand.
In a 20h time frame the battery will lose 30% while the phone is idling. That includes ~10% which goes to some music listening and calls. I'm then left with 70%. After cutting off the 10-15% at which I plug in the phone, I'm left with ~60% of actual battery for the SOT. That means ~2150mAh. The battery is simply too small to be capable of anything more.
If you watch hours of YouTube, yeah, the SOT will turn out better because you're barely touching the screen once in a while and the CPU does the bare minimum and nothing overheats or goes into seizure mode. And the longer you use it in a smaller time frame, the better the results. When you use it over a longer period of time, go from idle to active use, idle again, and so on, that's when things start to take shape, so to speak. Then the moment you start scrolling and loading and loading things on Reddit or TikTok for example, or you browse the web, switch between apps and so on, things also change. The CPU will jump from a range of frequencies and produce more heat. The battery will share some of that heat and thing will get hot relatively hot soon, especially if it's hot outside. That translates into even poorer battery performance cause the hotter it gets, the worse the active drain is. And also, the lower the percentage, the worse the drain is too, I have noticed since I got this piece of crap phone. But yeah, if outside it's hot AF, the phone will be hot too. Today here where I live it's 30C right now. Using this thing and doing nothing intensive on it still gets it hot. It's too small to dissipate heat properly. Those saying "not heat here" etc, it's not possible unless you live in a slightly colder climate.
Not to forget to mention, I debloated this thing, removing pretty much everything Samsung included and I left only their bare minimum BS. Did it solve anything? Yes and no. It's a small difference but definitely not as big as I was expecting. It mainly reduces the idle drain, but like I said, the difference is extremely minimal.
I used a Pixel 5 last year. It was a great little phone. The battery life was fantastic on that thing. It was basically the first phone I've ever had with such a great battery life. The I moved to an iPhone 13 Pro. The one was even better. I never had to worry about running out of battery. Then after getting bored with iOS, I preordered an S22. Did I even consider the battery life? Absolutely not.
In conclusion, if you keep trying to find a solution to the problem, you won't fix much. Thing might improve today but tomorrow you'll be disappointed again the cycle starts again the next day.
The 8 Gen 1 built on Samsung's 4nm architecture is absolutely rubbish. It's terrible in terms of efficiency and when you pair it with a tiny battery you get a Galaxy S22, the devil child sent on Earth to destroy your mental health.
So don't bother trying much. Just use the phone as is try to use it as is. Just have a power bank with you when you're away and you're fine. Otherwise you won't enjoy the phone one bit. I, for instance, got to a point where I took it out of the case and now I use it with just a screen protector and the rest completely unprotected. If I drop it and it gets smashed into a million pieces, I don't care. Cause this is the worst phone I've ever had In my life. It's hard to like.
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Sorry to disappoint but I'm not being silly nor lying, I have absolutely no reason too i have nothing to prove or anyone to impress by talking s***, I'd be here doing the same if my battery was rubbish which it was to start with. I don't get any over heating, phone drains roughly 3% over night and barely get any google services wakelocks so you can believe what you want i really dont care what you think I'll chill here happily with a mint running s22 with plenty of sot

skinza said:
Sorry to disappoint but I'm not being silly nor lying, I have absolutely no reason too i have nothing to prove or anyone to impress by talking s***, I'd be here doing the same if my battery was rubbish which it was to start with. I don't get any over heating, phone drains roughly 3% over night and barely get any google services wakelocks so you can believe what you want i really dont care what you think I'll chill here happily with a mint running s22 with plenty of sot
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It's fine. It's like a described it though. A continuous run of usage with with barely any stops or very short ones, will offer better stats. That's "very light" usage. Anyone complaining about battery life is doing a lot more on their phone just like me, the one who created this thread and the majority of S22 owners, with both variants of the phones.
Sorry if I offended you. You wouldn't be able to get the same SOT with our usage though, not even close, especially of you're 100% on cellular data.

syedtahir16 said:
Thank you for this. Probably the most honest review about S22's battery. Like you I tried everything under the sun (except the rooting and underclocking). This phone is just disappointing. I could relate to every single line as I read through your post. Weirdly, I'm just happy to know that Im not the only one feeling this way about this "flagship" device.
I'm coming from a very old OnePlus6 which STILL works perfectly fine on a custom Android with close to 4-5 hours of SOT in a full days usage. I charge it only in the night, sometimes it even makes it through the night..
I thought S22 with a higher battery (and NEW) will at least give 6 hours SOT but man was I wrong!!
So initially I used Smart Switch, and I got a terrible SOT of 1-2.
I did factory reset and manually set up the phone and I got about 3 hours of SOT.
I went through the debloating process and now I'm 3-4 hours of SOT.. Still that is so horrible for a flagship!
Its such a let down honestly! I get a flagship and paid so much money and this is such a huge issue! And I hate the font size on the notifications/panel.. it is just not proportional to the overall system font size! And not to forget, the phones takes about 1-1.5 hours to charge. Such a pain when are used to the OnePlus DashCharge which blazes through. Fast Charge on Samsung is such a shame
S22 is seeming to be a mistake. I'm considering swapping this for a Oneplus 10 Pro OR an iPhone 13! You made a similar switch? Looking for advice on fixing this brick of a phone or recommendation on alternate device.
Maybe custom ROMs or Updates in the future will make S22 better?
Edit: I too have a SM-S9010
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I doubt anything will improve things the way we want. Unless we see a complete revamp of how apps use the CPU, which is a deep optimization process, that should done by Google all the way to a system level, things simply cannot improve in such a drastic way. After doing some math, a 1% idle drain or 15-20% active drain is something relatively decent because it's based on the battery inside the phone. The real capacity of the 3700mAh is actually 3590. So it's even worse than it appears. We've got to accept in the end that Samsung ****ed up this year with the smaller phone, despite the sales numbers.
Anyway, I also had a OP6 which I really liked until the software went completely 180 and disappointed me with that insane redesign which went against everything OP started with.
Anyway, back to the S22. I'm not really bothered by the charging speed. However, considering the terrible battery life, a much quicker charging speed was rudimentary to compensate for the other thing. Samsung doesn't give a **** though. So long as business gets better.
The bottom line is, and I reached to this conclusion the hard way cause I can say that I lost a lot of money in market value in the past 3 years, is that in the Android world, if you want a flagship device with very good battery life, you've got to go big. Otherwise you'll be disappointed. On iOS, you can get that with the smaller phones. Choosing the bigger phone in that situation, will get you the best battery life on the entire phone market. Android needs more mAh to compensate for sudden idle drain, services that have seizures out of the blue and the regular active drain due to poor app optimization. The bigger the battery, the more mAh for those unexpected things to eat and the less you'll have to worry about the battery life, as long as it easily gets you through the day. But if you want to keep using a smaller phone, something that actually fits in your pocket, then I'm afraid only Apple can offer you the best. iOS is in a completely different league in terms of optimization. Not to mention how perfectly smooth everything in every corner is. That is the true definition of buttery smooth no matter the action you do and no matter the app you're using. On Android frame drops/stutters are a regular and no matter the phone I used, they've always been there, despite the claims. I guess I've got more sensitive eyes. Even so, on iOS, those frame drops are so rare, that you really get a truly delightful experience 99% of the times. Not to mention that the 120Hz experience on iOS is actually smoother than the 120Hz on Android, if that makes any sense. All the polish the OS receives is very noticeable on that 120Hz panel. The way the OS works is what you need to get used to, the restrictions and so on. If you can get past that, you're good to go.
So if you want to throw away the S22, thing that I wouldn't blame you for, a 13 Pro is what I'd suggest to you, if you wanna keep using a small phone but if you want the best of the best, go with the Max brick version.
I'm personally waiting for the 14 lineup and I'm most confident I'm gonna get the 14 Pro Max. I want to never worry about battery life. For me it's 2 big compromises I have to accept: iOS and the phone size.

dragos281993 said:
I doubt anything will improve things the way we want. Unless we see a complete revamp of how apps use the CPU, which is a deep optimization process, that should done by Google all the way to a system level, things simply cannot improve in such a drastic way. After doing some math, a 1% idle drain or 15-20% active drain is something relatively decent because it's based on the battery inside the phone. The real capacity of the 3700mAh is actually 3590. So it's even worse than it appears. We've gonna accept in the end that Samsung ****ed up this year with the smaller phone, despite the sales numbers.
Anyway, I also had a OP6 which I really liked until the software went completely 180 and disappointed me with that insane redesign which went against everything OP started with.
Anyway, back to the S22. I'm not really bothered by the charging speed. However, considering the terrible battery life, a much quicker charging speed was rudimentary to compensate for the other thing. Samsung doesn't give a **** though. So long as business gets better.
The bottom line is, and I reached to this conclusion the hard way cause I can say that I lost a lot of money in market value lost in the past 3 years, is that in the Android world, if you want a flagship device with very good battery life, you've got to go big. Otherwise you'll be disappointed. On iOS, you can get that with the smaller phones. Choosing the bigger phone in that situation, will get you the best battery life on the entire phone market. Android needs more mAh to compensate for sudden idle drain, services that have seizures out of the blue and the regular active drain due to poor app optimization. The bigger the battery, the more mAh for those unexpected things to eat and the less you'll have to worry about the battery life as long as it easily gets you through the day. But if you want to keep using a smaller phone, something that actually fits in your pocket, then I'm afraid only Apple can offer you the best. iOS is in a completely different league in terms of optimizations. Not to mention how perfectly smooth everything in every corner is. That is the true definition of buttery smooth no matter the action you do and no matter the app you're using. On Android frame drops/stutters are a regular and no matter the phone I used, they've always been there, despite the claims. I guess I've got more sensitive eyes. Even so, on iOS, those frame drops are so are, that you really get a delightful experience 99% of the times. Not to mention that the 120Hz experience on iOS is actually smoother than 120Hz on Android, if that makes any sense. All the polish the OS receives is very noticeable on that 120Hz panel. The way the OS works is what you need to get used to, the restrictions and so on. If you can get past that, you're good to go.
So if you want to throw away the S22, thing that I wouldn't blame you for, a 13 Pro is what I'd suggest to you, if you wanna keep using a small phone but if you want the best of the best, go with the Max brick version.
I'm personally waiting for the 14 lineup and I'm most confident I'm gonna get the 14 Pro Max. I want to never worry about battery life. For me it's 2 big compromises I have to accept: iOS and the phone size.
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Well, I guess that's what I'm planning to do too. Wait for the next iPhone. Until then I'll keep charging my S22.. and who knows maybe some miracle update from samsung will fix its battery time!

syedtahir16 said:
Well, I guess that's what I'm planning to do too. Wait for the next iPhone. Until then I'll keep charging my S22.. and who knows maybe some miracle update from samsung will fix its battery time!
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Ha Ha! I don't believe in miracles. A company that decides to address the issue by creating a mod or something to replace the back glass with something else that fits a bigger battery inside. That is a miracle to me

Thing is, the more you try to optimize this phone, the worse it gets
This is also the case for the adaptive battery that samsung has put on.
Sure you'll get good sot on any phone if you're locked in an app at low brightness for few hours that just scrolls through or plays videos.
But as soon as you start auto killing running apps and do multitasking with them after that, you'll barely get 2-3 hours sot.
Best I got from the exynos version on this was about 4.5 hours SOT with all settings I need enabled and gw4 conected to it.
But the average days (phone outside on higher brightness) are way below that. Using the doze mode when screen off, fingerprint disabled when screen is off, most of the bloatware /junk apps disabled or put in deep sleeping mode. (no root). I keep my phone at 85% and recharge when Im home/office whenever possible
Iphone really naied this down since the by just freezing the active proceeses for the standby adavantage.
The cpu doesnt really have to do anything when you relaunch them.
Im quite surprised android cannot do the same in 2022
Such a shame, this would've been the perfect compact phone if the software was done right on it.
But where is the $$$ for google/samsung for tracking everything you do ?
No matter what settings you try to disable, the phone constantly scans for gps/wifi/bluetooth devices (google's gms even claims this is for covid purposes in their TOS now)

Thank you everyone for the debate above. Understand that battery differs from one another, it seems that most people probably belongs to the side where the battery is insufficient to last through the day, or barely.
I love this phone so so much, and I got the Graphite model.
I hate to say goodbye, but I'll be going back to Pixel 5, and hoping S24, or whatever, will be a more optimized S22, keeping the compact phone size.

I use a snapdragon gen 1 s22. The battery is not terrible but also not great. An SOT of 3hrs for 3 days standby is what i get with max hz app installed, power saving on, debloated, sync on for two mailboxes. I get more SOT with less standyby time( if i watch youtube videos). I think its a nice balance for a compact phone. I had the pixel 6 before this but it was too heavy and big though the battery was slightly better.

Gymcode said:
Thank you everyone for the debate above. Understand that battery differs from one another, it seems that most people probably belongs to the side where the battery is insufficient to last through the day, or barely.
I love this phone so so much, and I got the Graphite model.
I hate to say goodbye, but I'll be going back to Pixel 5, and hoping S24, or whatever, will be a more optimized S22, keeping the compact phone size.
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You can get a Pixel 5 in mint condition for extremely cheap. I also looked up one cause I'm really considering getting one.

dragos281993 said:
You can get a Pixel 5 in mint condition for extremely cheap. I also looked up one cause I'm really considering getting one.
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Im a pixel fanboy. But recently with the bugs, poor call quality and the random battery drains i chose to move on. I hate the material you in android 12. Atleast i need an option to switch it off. I cant root as i need to use bank apps in my phone.
Here is a screen shot of my s22's battery usage for the past two days.

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You can get a Pixel 5 in mint condition for extremely cheap. I also looked up one cause I'm really considering getting one.
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Yup I got one myself now. Only downside is the under display firing top speaker which makes the volume thin and muffled. Other than that, I'm very happy with the phone!
And for god-knows-what reason, Pixel 5 rocks a 4080 mAh battery. Wonder why tf S22 weighs heavier and unable to carry a bigger battery. Bells and whistles, but neglected this basic need of a phone

Gymcode said:
Yup I got one myself now. Only downside is the under display firing top speaker which makes the volume thin and muffled. Other than that, I'm very happy with the phone!
And for god-knows-what reason, Pixel 5 rocks a 4080 mAh battery. Wonder why tf S22 weighs heavier and unable to carry a bigger battery. Bells and whistles, but neglected this basic need of a phone
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If im not wrong the pixel 5 is made of aluminum(sides and back) but the S22 is made of glass(back). Thats the reason for the weight difference.

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If im not wrong the pixel 5 is made of aluminum(sides and back) but the S22 is made of glass(back). Thats the reason for the weight difference.
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That is true. But SN8Gen1 is too much to handle for a reduced battery size. I'll go to Samsung shop to see how S22+ feels in the hand, as the battery size is bigger. But for now I'll stick with Pixel 5.

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