Hello all,
I've received my phone today, and first thing i've noticed is "total memory" is reported as 5.6GB instead of 6GB under settings.
Is this normal, and what would be the reason?
Thanks
Yes it's normal.
No I don't know the reason probably rounding or being used for paging.
Ah, makes sense.
Thanks for your time / response, appreciate it.
Is possible that you never noticed that there's always a difference between the raw capacity of the storage device and the actual one once FORMATTED?
Formatting takes place. Same on hard drives, usb sticks... As final capacity depends on file system used, it's always the raw capacity that's used.
I did, just, wasn't sure about Android.
Thank you for your input, appreciated.
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hi!
has anybody of you ever thought of putting a larger memory chip into the universal? has anybody done such a mod before? I thought about that as I saw the memory chip in a USB memory stick with 1GB.
I think it should be possible to change memory chips with compatible devices.
Can you imagine your universal with 1GB internal memory? :-D
has anybody experiences about that?
thanks for your reply
If you do a search, you will find several people have had the same thought. It is, however, not possible. You could put a trillion megabytes in the device, but it will only ever address 64mb of it.
you /can/ edit the amount it registers, just just need to know where in the rom file to hex edit, your best bet is to buy maicmach a universal (unless he has one) and ask him to find it out
I'm not sure this is the right place to ask this, but I'll give it a shot considering its about SD card partitioning for the Desire ROMs.
I recently bought an A-DATA class 6 card, 8 GB. The very 1st day I switched to this card (after I properly partitioned it with gparted), I had problems with the ext partitions. Nandroid backups were corrupted the moment they were done through recovery (tried Ra 2.0.1 and 2.0.0/CWM 2.5.6.7, all with the same problem), sometimes when my phone died suddenly (4 in 1 reboot into recovery) or even when I ran off battery and the phone shut down normally, after I turned it on the ext partition wasn't recognized, apps from phone were all missing, but fat32 was ok. In fact, I never had any issues with fat32 partition, except when I had corrupted files by nandroid backups and the phone was telling me "error: card is read-only" or something like that. When I mounted the card to PC it prompted me to scan the card cause it had problems, and then it was fixed. I repartitioned the card numberless times, both with gparted and in recovery when I had amon ra, and always the same problems. And now, it says the card has 3.6GB occupied, but if I get to count all the files in it, it barely gets to 1.5GB.
And lately I wanted to do a titanium backup of all my apps. My usual backups consist of 170-190MB, now after I performed a backup, most of the files were corrupted in it, and after the PC scanned for issues and fixed them, the backup folder had 25MB left, meaning all the other files were corrupted. How can I prove the store I bought this stupid thing from, that its broken? Cause I know it is, I switched to my stock card class 2 that the phone comes with, and everything is back to normal, no issues at all, it runs perfectly except its not that fast.
How will they believe me if the fat32 runs ok, they probably haven't even heard of ext partitions on SD cards...
Hey man. Sounds like a bit is a tough situation. I have an a-data class 10
And luckily it works fine.
I'm under the impression that with memory (ram anyway as I've returned
Many sets of dead sticks) is not tested if you say its faulty they take your word
and replace the part when it gets to them and either bin or recycle the "faulty"
Part. Thats just my speculation though from personal experience. I've had ram
Returned in a week and believe if the company had to test the ram first it would
Have taken much longer. May be worth a shot, worst case scenario they just send
You back your current card. Only other thing I can think of is that you stress the card
untill it actually does fail but that could take a hell of a long time.
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Hey man. Sounds like a bit is a tough situation. I have an a-data class 10
And luckily it works fine.
I'm under the impression that with memory (ram anyway as I've returned
Many sets of dead sticks) is not tested if you say its faulty they take your word
and replace the part when it gets to them and either bin or recycle the "faulty"
Part. Thats just my speculation though from personal experience. I've had ram
Returned in a week and believe if the company had to test the ram first it would
Have taken much longer. May be worth a shot, worst case scenario they just send
You back your current card. Only other thing I can think of is that you stress the card
untill it actually does fail but that could take a hell of a long time.
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Nah, its been on the same "stress" as the stock card, I'm having these problems since the 1st day I introduced the card inside, like I said.
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Nah, its been on the same "stress" as the stock card, I'm having these problems since the 1st day I introduced the card inside, like I said.
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no what i meant was that you stress the card untill it actually pops then send
it back.
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no what i meant was that you stress the card untill it actually pops then send
it back.
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Lol, haven't thought of that, does the warranty even cover that?
How would I be able to heavily stress the card? I heard ext4 does that, but what does generally stress a SD card?
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-lightweight-tools-to-check-the-speed-of-your-usb-flash-drive-windows/
You could try Check Flash, seems to have a Burn it! mode which should be just what you are looking for
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http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-lightweight-tools-to-check-the-speed-of-your-usb-flash-drive-windows/
You could try Check Flash, seems to have a Burn it! mode which should be just what you are looking for
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Looks great, thanks. Does it read it from the phone directly? Thing is, I don't have an adapter which could be mounted to the PC, only via the phone. Downloading now.
I've read on HF that if you put your phone on usb debugging and connect it via usb, then defragment it with windows it will speed your phone up 50% faster.
opinions?
elvensbane said:
I've read on HF that if you put your phone on usb debugging and connect it via usb, then defragment it with windows it will speed your phone up 50% faster.
opinions?
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how exactly do you defragment t once connected?
never heard of this
do you mean like defrag the sd card??
I use two cache cleaner apps to keep my phone clean of everything, use them both at least once a day.
andybones said:
how exactly do you defragment t once connected?
never heard of this
do you mean like defrag the sd card??
I use two cache cleaner apps to keep my phone clean of everything, use them both at least once a day.
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+1 I'm curious as well. I'm all about fast speeds on this thing
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Interesting... so I hooked up my phone to my laptop, connected as disc drive, went to properties on my sd card, selected tools, and then defragment, analyze.
After it did the analysis, it said that my sd card was 37% fragmented So needless to say, as I'm typing this, my sd card is being defragmentend
Oh... I do have a backup of my sd card so if anything weird happens, I'll be safe
I'll report back later with the results
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Interesting... so I hooked up my phone to my laptop, connected as disc drive, went to properties on my sd card, selected tools, and then defragment, analyze.
After it did the analysis, it said that my sd card was 37% fragmented So needless to say, as I'm typing this, my sd card is being defragmentend
Oh... I do have a backup of my sd card so if anything weird happens, I'll be safe
I'll report back later with the results
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Very interesting man, nice find!
9% defrag for me, defragmenting now
Edit: all done, 0% defrag now, didn't delete anything. very nice find.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but but I believe that fragmentation means nothing to flash media. Defragmenting moves the files closer to each other on a physical disk, so the needle has to move around less. But on a flash storage device I believe you're doing nothing of use, and actually just using up write cycles on the flash media
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but but I believe that fragmentation means nothing to flash media. Defragmenting moves the files closer to each other on a physical disk, so the needle has to move around less. But on a flash storage device I believe you're doing nothing of use, and actually just using up write cycles on the flash media
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You may very well be correct. It makes sense to me anyway. I just thought I'd see if it was possible or not... So far, I'm still waiting on the final results. It's taking forever. I've went through the defragmenting stage, and now at 16% consolidated.
PacerguyDon said:
You may very well be correct. It makes sense to me anyway. I just thought I'd see if it was possible or not... So far, I'm still waiting on the final results. It's taking forever. I've went through the defragmenting stage, and now at 16% consolidated.
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Is that a 32gb or a 16gb class 4?
C'mon man it took 2hrs for 16% and that was 2hrs ago.. LOL JK...
Seriously tho, wouldn't a card reader be more efficient?
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My Targus card reader and DiskTrix found 48% fragged files an my 8gb card and it took about an hour to fix fragged files only.
I thought consolidation would take forever. The result was a faster reboot and quicker data access.
I may be wrong but this seems to be a better option then the occasional formatting of the card.
As it only moves the files that need to move.
Android uses the Linux kernel and is backed by a linux-based file system (Ext 2/3/4). Ext by default handles the locating and storage of your files by finding the least fragmented sections on the 'disk' (or in our case flash memory). Ext can get fragmented, but it's very rare (you have to be fully maxing out the disk in some really awkward ways -- basically trying to fragment it).
All in all you should never need to 'defrag' it since the file system keeps things nice and tidy. A FAT-based memory card is a different case, however since memory cards have basically no seek time it shouldn't impact you.
Defragging flash memory is a serious no-no. Flash memory has a finite number of read/write cycles before it wears out (this has to do with electrons leaving permanent channels in the transistors) and defragging would only use up more of these.
I just found this article describing SSD defrag but I think it still applies to SD Cards.
It makes sense that wear leveling or fragging the files would increase the write life cycles of the sectors.
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/03/should-you-defragment-a-ssd/
Defragmentation describes the process of physically organizing the contents of a hard drive or partition so that the data sectors of each file will be stored close together to reduce load and seek times.
Solid State Drives can access any location on the drive in the same time. This is one of the main advantages over hard drives. This also means that there is no need to defragment a Solid State Drive ever. These drives have actually been designed to write data evenly in all sectors of the drive which the industry is calling wear leveling. Each sector of a Solid State Drive has a limited number of writes before it cannot be overwritten anymore. (this is a theoretical limit which cannot be reached in work environments)
If you did defragment your Solid State Disk you can rest assured that you did not harm it in any way. It is just that this process is not needed and that defragmentation causes lots of write processes which means that the drive will reach its write limits sooner.
No need for defragmentation is therefor another advantage of Solid State Drives.
cac2us said:
I just found this article describing SSD defrag but I think it still applies to SD Cards.
It makes sense that wear leveling or fragging the files would increase the write life cycles of the sectors.
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/03/should-you-defragment-a-ssd/
Defragmentation describes the process of physically organizing the contents of a hard drive or partition so that the data sectors of each file will be stored close together to reduce load and seek times.
Solid State Drives can access any location on the drive in the same time. This is one of the main advantages over hard drives. This also means that there is no need to defragment a Solid State Drive ever. These drives have actually been designed to write data evenly in all sectors of the drive which the industry is calling wear leveling. Each sector of a Solid State Drive has a limited number of writes before it cannot be overwritten anymore. (this is a theoretical limit which cannot be reached in work environments)
If you did defragment your Solid State Disk you can rest assured that you did not harm it in any way. It is just that this process is not needed and that defragmentation causes lots of write processes which means that the drive will reach its write limits sooner.
No need for defragmentation is therefor another advantage of Solid State Drives.
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It does apply to SD cards as well, as SSD drives are another form of flash media, just like SD cards, and the phone's internal memory
So in the case of flash drives, the more fragged the better.
Read only cards would theoretically last forever.
The Only advantage to having consolidated the data, would be in the case of backups that would be accessed quicker.
I think I would rather give up a few milliseconds of my time to get the mileage out of a fgagged flash drive..
cac2us said:
Is that a 32gb or a 16gb class 4?
C'mon man it took 2hrs for 16% and that was 2hrs ago.. LOL JK...
Seriously tho, wouldn't a card reader be more efficient?
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My Targus card reader and DiskTrix found 48% fragged files an my 8gb card and it took about an hour to fix fragged files only.
I thought consolidation would take forever. The result was a faster reboot and quicker data access.
I may be wrong but this seems to be a better option then the occasional formatting of the card.
As it only moves the files that need to move.
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I have a 32g class 10 and it was done in 15 minutes.
+1 on the previous posts by ubuntunerd and cac2us.
Defragmentation only helps to reduce drive head movement as separated bits of the file are read. Flash drives and ssd's don't have drive heads, and hence don't need to be defragmented. Defragging them will only cause unnecessary read/erase/write cycles.
This is one instance where less is more.
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first of all i rarely quit on something, and i ( try to ) keep my hopes up even tho the odds are not exactly in my favor....strangely it worked for me on numerous occasions in the past, so im crossing my fingers one more time With this delicate matter.
My micro sd card 32 gb class 10 was bought just a little over 4 month ago ( ebay ) i downloaded the program from Google that verifies the Cards capacity, just to make sure i didnt buy a 2gb clone. After verification i mounted it in my Galaxy s3 and started its normal usage.
Im a father of 4 children, and if you have come to fatherhood/motherhood its really an age of Wonders.....if you can manage to put asside the the every day stress, constant yelling ,telling, shouting, nagging, and hair pulling you know its truly a wonderfull life
I know just like everybody else, that time goes by fast....and beeing a hobby photographer i lover to capture special moments in Our lifes, becouse face it....10 years Down the road really somethimes feel just like 2.
I have filled the card to almost 20gb of Pictures and videos of my preacious Family
the past 4 weeks my phone started to Mount / unmount the card, whenever i turned the screen on i'd see the Notification at the top left, " card was unexpectadly removed " and Mounts it back and everything was normal. 2 weeks ago it started to say " card not recognised " but after a couple of minutes, or the Next time i used the phone the card was mounted and working fine.....by then i started getting a Clue, ok i really should take a backup really soon.
2 days ago 10/06 on my birthday mind you
the card finally gave up and my phone gave me a warning that the card needed formatting. Wich i didnt do!
After the incident i googled away for solutions, everything from quick formats, datarecovery Applications, unlocking the Write protect on micro sd's and chkdsk within command prompt.
I found this thread here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355528
Talking about how he manage to recover his data ( happy for you )
Unfrortunately it didnt work for me, checkdisk couldnt perform becouse of the microsd's format beeing RAW
i tried 3 different Applications for data recovery one of them beeing zardata recovery software to no avail
i gave this one a shot : TestDisk i didnt play arround too much becouse i wanted to make minimal to no changes to the card in hopes of recovering most of the data, so i didnt really get far With this one.
i downloaded fat32 format wich stated that i might get the card to be readable again, but it didnt work becouse i got "the card is Write protected" error ( even tho there was no Lock that was on )
At this time the card is not readable by my Galaxy s3, only way is to plug it into a card reader With SH support thru usb on my Laptop and even then i get a Message telling me it needs formatting, wich i tried a couple of times after googling the correct unit allocation sizes wich i set to about 4k to get the best performance and to try to keep its standard 4k wich i presumed it was when i formatted it first time to fat32
I am aware that on some forums they mention that if the card is about to give up it goes into Write protect mode, but since i havent written anything on it since this started, i think i still have a chance.
About 10 years ago, i had my hdd crash on me....a friend of mine helped me recover my data using Linux to read the raw data......anything out there that does the same job ?
I also appreciate a step by step guide for the TestDisk program from http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
The Cards size is approx 30mb at the moment, there are no visible marks, scratches or cracks on it.
Please before you answer me, think of any.....really ANY solution that might help me get my data back, i dont want to give up on this yet.
I thought if anything else fails ill send it off to some data recovery center and get the data that way.
Thank you for beeing patient and Reading thru this, have a Nice day
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Another gigantic OP that I couldn't be bothered to read. You may have done this already, but I wouldn't know because I'm not going to fully read that big post, lol. Remove all data from the card and then format the thing. Replace data and try again.
Don't use that "testdisk" program/site. Flash cards/SSDs only have so many reads/writes before they die off. Defragging or performing read/write tests on flash media is not good for the longevity of the medium.
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Another gigantic OP that I couldn't be bothered to read. You may have done this already, but I wouldn't know because I'm not going to fully read that big post, lol. Remove all data from the card and then format the thing. Replace data and try again.
Don't use that "testdisk" program/site. Flash cards/SSDs only have so many reads/writes before they die off. Defragging or performing read/write tests on flash media is not good for the longevity of the medium.
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thanks for Your " time " lol
the data is not readable, i can only read the card With a card Reader plugged into the usb port.
Thank for Your info about the program, will remember that.
ghadkali said:
thanks for Your " time " lol
the data is not readable, i can only read the card With a card Reader plugged into the usb port.
Thank for Your info about the program, will remember that.
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That was a big post man, haha.
*BUMP
i realy appreciate all answers i can get, still hoping for some help
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im sure someone has had this issue before, or at least heard of someone that has. Microsd's are presumable the Storage media used worldwide
any help still appreciated
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Okay I'm not even sure what I had done when I had done this but when I plug in my phone (Moto G Stylus 2020 XT-2043-4) into my computer. It displays internal shared storage like normal and two SD card storage which is not normal. I've had this phone for a while bought it from Metro PCS when it first came out. I rooted it then, i switched phones for a while came back to this one reset it and rooted it again. They are entangled (adding a file to one shows up in the other as well). I find this very strange and bizarre and I'm wondering if anyone else is ran into this situation any help or insight would be fantastic.
What's the issue if it writes/reads normally?
Macro entanglement?
So far so good don't have any issues. Didn't know if this was an issue that might manifest later with the solid States or a software bug from a flashing mishap. I am curious and I like to understand why
My guess is it's just the way the PC represents the drives.
I guess if you're really concerned do a low level format of the card, then reformat the SD card in the phone. That way you know the card's not doing it... just backup the data first
Play with it long enough if something isn't screwed up... it will be.
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"...Play with it long enough if something isn't screwed up... it will be.
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Big smile.