I've read on HF that if you put your phone on usb debugging and connect it via usb, then defragment it with windows it will speed your phone up 50% faster.
opinions?
elvensbane said:
I've read on HF that if you put your phone on usb debugging and connect it via usb, then defragment it with windows it will speed your phone up 50% faster.
opinions?
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how exactly do you defragment t once connected?
never heard of this
do you mean like defrag the sd card??
I use two cache cleaner apps to keep my phone clean of everything, use them both at least once a day.
andybones said:
how exactly do you defragment t once connected?
never heard of this
do you mean like defrag the sd card??
I use two cache cleaner apps to keep my phone clean of everything, use them both at least once a day.
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+1 I'm curious as well. I'm all about fast speeds on this thing
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Interesting... so I hooked up my phone to my laptop, connected as disc drive, went to properties on my sd card, selected tools, and then defragment, analyze.
After it did the analysis, it said that my sd card was 37% fragmented So needless to say, as I'm typing this, my sd card is being defragmentend
Oh... I do have a backup of my sd card so if anything weird happens, I'll be safe
I'll report back later with the results
PacerguyDon said:
Interesting... so I hooked up my phone to my laptop, connected as disc drive, went to properties on my sd card, selected tools, and then defragment, analyze.
After it did the analysis, it said that my sd card was 37% fragmented So needless to say, as I'm typing this, my sd card is being defragmentend
Oh... I do have a backup of my sd card so if anything weird happens, I'll be safe
I'll report back later with the results
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Very interesting man, nice find!
9% defrag for me, defragmenting now
Edit: all done, 0% defrag now, didn't delete anything. very nice find.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but but I believe that fragmentation means nothing to flash media. Defragmenting moves the files closer to each other on a physical disk, so the needle has to move around less. But on a flash storage device I believe you're doing nothing of use, and actually just using up write cycles on the flash media
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Zax_Was_Here said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but but I believe that fragmentation means nothing to flash media. Defragmenting moves the files closer to each other on a physical disk, so the needle has to move around less. But on a flash storage device I believe you're doing nothing of use, and actually just using up write cycles on the flash media
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You may very well be correct. It makes sense to me anyway. I just thought I'd see if it was possible or not... So far, I'm still waiting on the final results. It's taking forever. I've went through the defragmenting stage, and now at 16% consolidated.
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You may very well be correct. It makes sense to me anyway. I just thought I'd see if it was possible or not... So far, I'm still waiting on the final results. It's taking forever. I've went through the defragmenting stage, and now at 16% consolidated.
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Is that a 32gb or a 16gb class 4?
C'mon man it took 2hrs for 16% and that was 2hrs ago.. LOL JK...
Seriously tho, wouldn't a card reader be more efficient?
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My Targus card reader and DiskTrix found 48% fragged files an my 8gb card and it took about an hour to fix fragged files only.
I thought consolidation would take forever. The result was a faster reboot and quicker data access.
I may be wrong but this seems to be a better option then the occasional formatting of the card.
As it only moves the files that need to move.
Android uses the Linux kernel and is backed by a linux-based file system (Ext 2/3/4). Ext by default handles the locating and storage of your files by finding the least fragmented sections on the 'disk' (or in our case flash memory). Ext can get fragmented, but it's very rare (you have to be fully maxing out the disk in some really awkward ways -- basically trying to fragment it).
All in all you should never need to 'defrag' it since the file system keeps things nice and tidy. A FAT-based memory card is a different case, however since memory cards have basically no seek time it shouldn't impact you.
Defragging flash memory is a serious no-no. Flash memory has a finite number of read/write cycles before it wears out (this has to do with electrons leaving permanent channels in the transistors) and defragging would only use up more of these.
I just found this article describing SSD defrag but I think it still applies to SD Cards.
It makes sense that wear leveling or fragging the files would increase the write life cycles of the sectors.
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/03/should-you-defragment-a-ssd/
Defragmentation describes the process of physically organizing the contents of a hard drive or partition so that the data sectors of each file will be stored close together to reduce load and seek times.
Solid State Drives can access any location on the drive in the same time. This is one of the main advantages over hard drives. This also means that there is no need to defragment a Solid State Drive ever. These drives have actually been designed to write data evenly in all sectors of the drive which the industry is calling wear leveling. Each sector of a Solid State Drive has a limited number of writes before it cannot be overwritten anymore. (this is a theoretical limit which cannot be reached in work environments)
If you did defragment your Solid State Disk you can rest assured that you did not harm it in any way. It is just that this process is not needed and that defragmentation causes lots of write processes which means that the drive will reach its write limits sooner.
No need for defragmentation is therefor another advantage of Solid State Drives.
cac2us said:
I just found this article describing SSD defrag but I think it still applies to SD Cards.
It makes sense that wear leveling or fragging the files would increase the write life cycles of the sectors.
http://www.ghacks.net/2009/01/03/should-you-defragment-a-ssd/
Defragmentation describes the process of physically organizing the contents of a hard drive or partition so that the data sectors of each file will be stored close together to reduce load and seek times.
Solid State Drives can access any location on the drive in the same time. This is one of the main advantages over hard drives. This also means that there is no need to defragment a Solid State Drive ever. These drives have actually been designed to write data evenly in all sectors of the drive which the industry is calling wear leveling. Each sector of a Solid State Drive has a limited number of writes before it cannot be overwritten anymore. (this is a theoretical limit which cannot be reached in work environments)
If you did defragment your Solid State Disk you can rest assured that you did not harm it in any way. It is just that this process is not needed and that defragmentation causes lots of write processes which means that the drive will reach its write limits sooner.
No need for defragmentation is therefor another advantage of Solid State Drives.
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It does apply to SD cards as well, as SSD drives are another form of flash media, just like SD cards, and the phone's internal memory
So in the case of flash drives, the more fragged the better.
Read only cards would theoretically last forever.
The Only advantage to having consolidated the data, would be in the case of backups that would be accessed quicker.
I think I would rather give up a few milliseconds of my time to get the mileage out of a fgagged flash drive..
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Is that a 32gb or a 16gb class 4?
C'mon man it took 2hrs for 16% and that was 2hrs ago.. LOL JK...
Seriously tho, wouldn't a card reader be more efficient?
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My Targus card reader and DiskTrix found 48% fragged files an my 8gb card and it took about an hour to fix fragged files only.
I thought consolidation would take forever. The result was a faster reboot and quicker data access.
I may be wrong but this seems to be a better option then the occasional formatting of the card.
As it only moves the files that need to move.
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I have a 32g class 10 and it was done in 15 minutes.
+1 on the previous posts by ubuntunerd and cac2us.
Defragmentation only helps to reduce drive head movement as separated bits of the file are read. Flash drives and ssd's don't have drive heads, and hence don't need to be defragmented. Defragging them will only cause unnecessary read/erase/write cycles.
This is one instance where less is more.
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I have read so many articles and some of them conflict with each other. I was hoping to get this cleared up. It is my understanding that the windows phone won't have removeable storage like the other WM, android, etc phones do. But I was also told that if the manufacturer designs it, the sd card internal can be replaced but when you do so you will lose all of your data and settings. Is this correct? If so, then you could put a larger card in before you setup your phone and then you would have room for multimedia and you don't have to worry about losing everything. Can somebody clarify this for me?
Technically "yes". But until some actual phones are on the market, it's very hard to answer.
However, the only data you'll only have local copies of on the SD card, is your multimedia (music) data. Everything else, including settings, will be "in the cloud", so it's not a real issue to reset the phone.
But again, we need information about the specific hardware releases for the public, before the subject can be 100% clarified.
Thanks for the info. That is what I was wanting to know. If I am going to use the phone as my pmp device as well, I will need the storage for my audio/video.
I believe they are supposed to have a minimum of 8gb of storage. This is supposed to be one of the areas that OEMs are supposed to take advantage of to differentiate their products. Give their handset appeal by tossing in a 64gb sd card.
I'm not seeing a reason you wouldn't be able to pop it open to put in a bigger card, but doing so will most likely void the warranty on the phone.
It will vary. Some will probably use internal microSD cards while others will use discrete memory chips. The minimum is 8gb. If the manufacturer does use a SD card, it is unknown how easy it will be to replace. I've seen text in the resources in the emulator saying that you must replace the original card that came with the phone. We may have to come up with a utility that formats the new cards in the way the phone needs.
RotoRooter said:
So I was in the same boat you are in. Nothing could read the card except for my Nokia n97 mini. It recognized the card as "locked" and prompted for a password. I bypassed the prompt and went to the file manager. From there it let me format the card and it is back to normal. See, Symbian is good for something after all!
PS: I tried the same process with an E71 and had the same successful results. All recent Symbian phones should work as it appears they can handle the encryption and password. The card is now happily back in my HTC EVO.
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This is the best news of the day .
one downside: you need a symbian phone .
ceesheim said:
There are some people reporting that if you replace the sd card of your WP7 phone and then want to use it again for your pc it isn't reconsigned any more .
this mean that you can not use it and you can not format it (for the time being it is bricked )
lets hope someone knows a way to fix it .
edit : maybe it is wise to make this sticky for a view weeks .
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correct. Once the card is formatted for the phone, it can only be used with the phone.
Huh? You cant even format it after using it on the phone? Maybe Windows will fail to format it but there has to be a way to get it formatted again. They can't brick your card.
Ren13B said:
Huh? You cant even format it after using it on the phone? That doesn't make any sense at all.
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No , you can't format the sd card any more after using it in your phone .
you can only use it on your wp7 phone .
and that could be real expensive if you brick your class 6 32GB sd card .
More than likely there will be an app or tool to fix this in the short run. Never say never around XDA.
ceesheim said:
No , you can't format the sd card any more after using it in your phone .
you can only use it on your wp7 phone .
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Use the damn Disk Manager and repartition the SD card.
Tom Servo said:
Use the damn Disk Manager and repartition the SD card.
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Common sense prevails once again!!!
Tom Servo said:
Use the damn Disk Manager and repartition the SD card.
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That would be my first guess.
I guess what is surprising me is for how long the phone has been in preview and in devs hands, why in the hell are so many features that are probably in the phone or are questioned to be in it, not being found already? God the first thing I do when I get a new gizmo is to search every nook and cranny of every option and setting. A good example is this and how NOBODY has tried it yet with a replaced microSD from an HD7, and how long it took for somebody to find a way to add your own ringtone. (Its right there in the Zune Hub!?! Who Knew!?!) lol
Seriously If I had a device at any point before/at the release, I could have easily found answers to a lot of questions that have been asked. Sadly with real life not landing me a job as a website tech reviewer or dev I get pushed to the back of the line. Not to toot my own horn but I really do feel like a fairly high quality QA person. I may not be able to write my own code, but I can poke and play with yours till I find all the bugs and all the features.
Anyone with a loner HD7 wanna throw it my way for test and analyzing purposes until I can get my hands on my own Sprint HTC 7 Pro? I can probably provide some really useful feedback and quality video that could easily rival a lot of these sites.
IM0001 said:
That would be my first guess.
I guess what is surprising me is for how long the phone has been in preview and in devs hands, why in the hell are so many features that are probably in the phone or are questioned to be in it, not being found already? God the first thing I do when I get a new gizmo is to search every nook and cranny of every option and setting. A good example is this and how NOBODY has tried it yet with a replaced microSD from an HD7, and how long it took for somebody to find a way to add your own ringtone. (Its right there in the Zune Hub!?! Who Knew!?!) lol
Seriously If I had a device at any point before/at the release, I could have easily found answers to a lot of questions that have been asked. Sadly with real life not landing me a job as a website tech reviewer or dev I get pushed to the back of the line. Not to toot my own horn but I really do feel like a fairly high quality QA person. I may not be able to write my own code, but I can poke and play with yours till I find all the bugs and all the features.
Anyone with a loner HD7 wanna throw it my way for test and analyzing purposes until I can get my hands on my own Sprint HTC 7 Pro? I can probably provide some really useful feedback and quality video that could easily rival a lot of these sites.
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The reason is because it hasn't released to the USA yet. I have noticed that other areas lack the adventurous spirit.
I'm excited to see what will come after Monday.
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how long it took for somebody to find a way to add your own ringtone. (Its right there in the Zune Hub!?! Who Knew!?!) lol
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Little bit off topic, but I consider my self to be a fiddler trying to find out every little option. I truely cannot find anything in zune on how to set ringtones?!
Where!? and How?!
In the tech video somewhere a day or 2 ago the guy said the option was within the zune hub. Of course no showing or saying how. Is there not a longpress on a song or the 3 dots option anywhere you can see?
Sitting stuck in the US really stinks. I wish Microsoft would give me a dang job lol. Need to get in touch with some more contacts.
That's because the setting doesn't exist. You can only use the ringtones that are on the phone right now.
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Little bit off topic, but I consider my self to be a fiddler trying to find out every little option. I truely cannot find anything in zune on how to set ringtones?!
Where!? and How?!
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That's because the setting doesn't exist. You can only use the ringtones that are on the phone right now.
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Exactly. Geez, why are people refusing to believe this, it's a well known fact that at the moment you cannot set your own ringtones.
As for replacing the SD card in a HD7, been there done that. Works great, however HTC's WP7 hardware really sucks, so unless you're a diehard fan (or get them free) go with Samsung or LG. LG is actually the better choice in many aspects (just not, unfortunately, when it comes to hardware/feel).
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Use the damn Disk Manager and repartition the SD card.
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Did you test this ?
the card is seen as a 0GB card and it is write protected .
ceesheim said:
Did you test this ?
the card is seen as a 0GB card and it is write protected .
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Have same problem.
I try to Format with.
Killdisk (BootCD)
hddguru
Panasonic SDFormater 2.0 + 3.0 (beta)
Autoformat 1.4 (Transcent)
HP USB Disk Storage Formater
and Linux
I found this information on this forum :
http://www.techspot.com/vb/post391796-6.html
and some more info:
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?act=ST&f=82&t=69211&st=0#entry474505
Ok XP can only see one partition on a removable USB but if change the USB driver to a fixed disk driver then XP will see it as a hard drive then we can have lay down multiple partitions as we like. Now open regedit and goto HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USBSTOR
and double click on USBSTORE and you see a subkey below it, select the first subkey below USBSTORE and right click and select Copy Key Name
Here is mine, yours maybe different.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USBSTOR\Disk&Ven_Generic&Prod_ USB_Flash_Disk&Rev_0.00
Now we need only need this part:
USBSTOR\Disk&Ven_Generic&Prod_USB_Flash_Disk&Rev_0.00
Copy and paste it temporarily into notepad.
You will now need this driver. http://www.xpefiles.com/viewtopic.php?t=92
Unpack it to a folder on your desktop. Inside the folder is the file cfadisk.inf. You need to open this file and scroll down to you see the line %Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install, specific data
Now you need to replace all lines %Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install, specific data with
the line you copied from your registry like so.
%Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,USBSTOR\Disk&Ven_Generic&Prod_USB_Flash_Disk&Rev_0.00
There could be more lines so replace all and save the file.
Goto Device Manager and click on disk drives. You see your USB listed, dbl click on it and goto the driver tab and click update driver and install from a specific location and choose the driver to install and click on Have Disk and browse to the cfadisk.inf file your modified driver on your desktop and force that to replace your existing driver. It might ask you to reboot. You should now have your USB showing as Local Disk
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I used this to make more partitions on a usb stick , maybe you can use this to make a local Disk of it and then make a new partition on it .
unfortunately I do not have XP anymore but diskpart under windows7 does not detect the media itself so it cant do a diskpart in the first case.
Its like the media does "not exist" anymore.
I really don't want to throw away my 16GB and my 32GB card and am still trying out solutions here.
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unfortunately I do not have XP anymore but diskpart under windows7 does not detect the media itself so it cant do a diskpart in the first case.
Its like the media does "not exist" anymore.
I really don't want to throw away my 16GB and my 32GB card and am still trying out solutions here.
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I don't understand , if you connect the sd card to the pc the pc don't see the sd card at all ?
IM0001 said:
That would be my first guess.
I guess what is surprising me is for how long the phone has been in preview and in devs hands, why in the hell are so many features that are probably in the phone or are questioned to be in it, not being found already? God the first thing I do when I get a new gizmo is to search every nook and cranny of every option and setting. A good example is this and how NOBODY has tried it yet with a replaced microSD from an HD7, and how long it took for somebody to find a way to add your own ringtone. (Its right there in the Zune Hub!?! Who Knew!?!) lol
Seriously If I had a device at any point before/at the release, I could have easily found answers to a lot of questions that have been asked. Sadly with real life not landing me a job as a website tech reviewer or dev I get pushed to the back of the line. Not to toot my own horn but I really do feel like a fairly high quality QA person. I may not be able to write my own code, but I can poke and play with yours till I find all the bugs and all the features.
Anyone with a loner HD7 wanna throw it my way for test and analyzing purposes until I can get my hands on my own Sprint HTC 7 Pro? I can probably provide some really useful feedback and quality video that could easily rival a lot of these sites.
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The SD card cannot be reused to prevent piracy and information threft.
If you have business information on you SD card (say, emails, PPT/Word/XL documents), you don't want anyone to be able to just remove the SD card and use it in another phone. It's well known that WP7 uses a Raid-like setup for storage to show SD+Internal storage as one continuous unit.
Why people think you'd be able to just remove the SD card and view it in another computer/phone is beyond me... It's like common sense has gone AWOL these days...
Making the card unreadable improves security. Perhaps this isn't a big deal to many, but until you have a phone stolen/lost with confidential infromation on it, you don't know what it feels like to know that the informatin is safe and inaccessible to others.
Also, it's totally random which SD cards will work correctly in WP7 devices. The cards that do work are only shipped in bulk (to manufacturers, most likely), and aren't available for consumer purchase.
It's totally possible that a card may work right now, but as it ages it will start to fail and you will be forced to remove it.
Paying $200 for a 32GB Class 6 card right now isn't even worth the risk.
SD Card Size and Class has nothing to do with compatibility. It has more to do with random read/write speeds, which aren't the same as the card's throughput (i.e. Class).
That is probably why there aren't ay 32 GB WP7 devices available at the moment. If you want more storage you can either:
1. Buy a 16GB device and deal with it if it's enough for you.
2. Buy a 16GB device and wait for WP7 compatible SD Cards to become available.
3. Don't buy a phone and wait for 32GB phones are available (and maybe by the time the WP7-compatible SD cards are available and you can get up to 64GB storage).
4. Wait until a manufacturer releases a phone with 32GB+ NAND Flash Memory in it.
IMO, Microsoft should have dictated NAND Flash memory. SD cards do nothing but create support issues, and allow the manufacturers to skimp a lot (by using the lowest class cards available, among other things).
N8ter said:
The SD card cannot be reused to prevent piracy and information threft.
If you have business information on you SD card (say, emails, PPT/Word/XL documents), you don't want anyone to be able to just remove the SD card and use it in another phone. It's well known that WP7 uses a Raid-like setup for storage to show SD+Internal storage as one continuous unit.
Why people think you'd be able to just remove the SD card and view it in another computer/phone is beyond me... It's like common sense has gone AWOL these days...
Making the card unreadable improves security. Perhaps this isn't a big deal to many, but until you have a phone stolen/lost with confidential infromation on it, you don't know what it feels like to know that the informatin is safe and inaccessible to others.
Also, it's totally random which SD cards will work correctly in WP7 devices. The cards that do work are only shipped in bulk (to manufacturers, most likely), and aren't available for consumer purchase.
It's totally possible that a card may work right now, but as it ages it will start to fail and you will be forced to remove it.
Paying $200 for a 32GB Class 6 card right now isn't even worth the risk.
SD Card Size and Class has nothing to do with compatibility. It has more to do with random read/write speeds, which aren't the same as the card's throughput (i.e. Class).
That is probably why there aren't ay 32 GB WP7 devices available at the moment. If you want more storage you can either:
1. Buy a 16GB device and deal with it if it's enough for you.
2. Buy a 16GB device and wait for WP7 compatible SD Cards to become available.
3. Don't buy a phone and wait for 32GB phones are available (and maybe by the time the WP7-compatible SD cards are available and you can get up to 64GB storage).
4. Wait until a manufacturer releases a phone with 32GB+ NAND Flash Memory in it.
IMO, Microsoft should have dictated NAND Flash memory. SD cards do nothing but create support issues, and allow the manufacturers to skimp a lot (by using the lowest class cards available, among other things).
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The more I read on the WP7 and its "expandable" storage the more I am convinced that MS has implemented RAID0 stripping to provide a higher bandwidth/speed increase in I/O and disregard data integrity error checking. This leads me to believe that WP7's performance on a slower media is horrendous (MicroSD cards), and without a doubt it is a cost saving for manufacturers because no one in their mind is going to pay a premium price for high capacity NAND storage.
I'm not sure this is the right place to ask this, but I'll give it a shot considering its about SD card partitioning for the Desire ROMs.
I recently bought an A-DATA class 6 card, 8 GB. The very 1st day I switched to this card (after I properly partitioned it with gparted), I had problems with the ext partitions. Nandroid backups were corrupted the moment they were done through recovery (tried Ra 2.0.1 and 2.0.0/CWM 2.5.6.7, all with the same problem), sometimes when my phone died suddenly (4 in 1 reboot into recovery) or even when I ran off battery and the phone shut down normally, after I turned it on the ext partition wasn't recognized, apps from phone were all missing, but fat32 was ok. In fact, I never had any issues with fat32 partition, except when I had corrupted files by nandroid backups and the phone was telling me "error: card is read-only" or something like that. When I mounted the card to PC it prompted me to scan the card cause it had problems, and then it was fixed. I repartitioned the card numberless times, both with gparted and in recovery when I had amon ra, and always the same problems. And now, it says the card has 3.6GB occupied, but if I get to count all the files in it, it barely gets to 1.5GB.
And lately I wanted to do a titanium backup of all my apps. My usual backups consist of 170-190MB, now after I performed a backup, most of the files were corrupted in it, and after the PC scanned for issues and fixed them, the backup folder had 25MB left, meaning all the other files were corrupted. How can I prove the store I bought this stupid thing from, that its broken? Cause I know it is, I switched to my stock card class 2 that the phone comes with, and everything is back to normal, no issues at all, it runs perfectly except its not that fast.
How will they believe me if the fat32 runs ok, they probably haven't even heard of ext partitions on SD cards...
Hey man. Sounds like a bit is a tough situation. I have an a-data class 10
And luckily it works fine.
I'm under the impression that with memory (ram anyway as I've returned
Many sets of dead sticks) is not tested if you say its faulty they take your word
and replace the part when it gets to them and either bin or recycle the "faulty"
Part. Thats just my speculation though from personal experience. I've had ram
Returned in a week and believe if the company had to test the ram first it would
Have taken much longer. May be worth a shot, worst case scenario they just send
You back your current card. Only other thing I can think of is that you stress the card
untill it actually does fail but that could take a hell of a long time.
esk02k said:
Hey man. Sounds like a bit is a tough situation. I have an a-data class 10
And luckily it works fine.
I'm under the impression that with memory (ram anyway as I've returned
Many sets of dead sticks) is not tested if you say its faulty they take your word
and replace the part when it gets to them and either bin or recycle the "faulty"
Part. Thats just my speculation though from personal experience. I've had ram
Returned in a week and believe if the company had to test the ram first it would
Have taken much longer. May be worth a shot, worst case scenario they just send
You back your current card. Only other thing I can think of is that you stress the card
untill it actually does fail but that could take a hell of a long time.
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Nah, its been on the same "stress" as the stock card, I'm having these problems since the 1st day I introduced the card inside, like I said.
lvnatic said:
Nah, its been on the same "stress" as the stock card, I'm having these problems since the 1st day I introduced the card inside, like I said.
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no what i meant was that you stress the card untill it actually pops then send
it back.
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no what i meant was that you stress the card untill it actually pops then send
it back.
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Lol, haven't thought of that, does the warranty even cover that?
How would I be able to heavily stress the card? I heard ext4 does that, but what does generally stress a SD card?
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-lightweight-tools-to-check-the-speed-of-your-usb-flash-drive-windows/
You could try Check Flash, seems to have a Burn it! mode which should be just what you are looking for
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http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-lightweight-tools-to-check-the-speed-of-your-usb-flash-drive-windows/
You could try Check Flash, seems to have a Burn it! mode which should be just what you are looking for
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Looks great, thanks. Does it read it from the phone directly? Thing is, I don't have an adapter which could be mounted to the PC, only via the phone. Downloading now.
hi
first of all i rarely quit on something, and i ( try to ) keep my hopes up even tho the odds are not exactly in my favor....strangely it worked for me on numerous occasions in the past, so im crossing my fingers one more time With this delicate matter.
My micro sd card 32 gb class 10 was bought just a little over 4 month ago ( ebay ) i downloaded the program from Google that verifies the Cards capacity, just to make sure i didnt buy a 2gb clone. After verification i mounted it in my Galaxy s3 and started its normal usage.
Im a father of 4 children, and if you have come to fatherhood/motherhood its really an age of Wonders.....if you can manage to put asside the the every day stress, constant yelling ,telling, shouting, nagging, and hair pulling you know its truly a wonderfull life
I know just like everybody else, that time goes by fast....and beeing a hobby photographer i lover to capture special moments in Our lifes, becouse face it....10 years Down the road really somethimes feel just like 2.
I have filled the card to almost 20gb of Pictures and videos of my preacious Family
the past 4 weeks my phone started to Mount / unmount the card, whenever i turned the screen on i'd see the Notification at the top left, " card was unexpectadly removed " and Mounts it back and everything was normal. 2 weeks ago it started to say " card not recognised " but after a couple of minutes, or the Next time i used the phone the card was mounted and working fine.....by then i started getting a Clue, ok i really should take a backup really soon.
2 days ago 10/06 on my birthday mind you
the card finally gave up and my phone gave me a warning that the card needed formatting. Wich i didnt do!
After the incident i googled away for solutions, everything from quick formats, datarecovery Applications, unlocking the Write protect on micro sd's and chkdsk within command prompt.
I found this thread here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355528
Talking about how he manage to recover his data ( happy for you )
Unfrortunately it didnt work for me, checkdisk couldnt perform becouse of the microsd's format beeing RAW
i tried 3 different Applications for data recovery one of them beeing zardata recovery software to no avail
i gave this one a shot : TestDisk i didnt play arround too much becouse i wanted to make minimal to no changes to the card in hopes of recovering most of the data, so i didnt really get far With this one.
i downloaded fat32 format wich stated that i might get the card to be readable again, but it didnt work becouse i got "the card is Write protected" error ( even tho there was no Lock that was on )
At this time the card is not readable by my Galaxy s3, only way is to plug it into a card reader With SH support thru usb on my Laptop and even then i get a Message telling me it needs formatting, wich i tried a couple of times after googling the correct unit allocation sizes wich i set to about 4k to get the best performance and to try to keep its standard 4k wich i presumed it was when i formatted it first time to fat32
I am aware that on some forums they mention that if the card is about to give up it goes into Write protect mode, but since i havent written anything on it since this started, i think i still have a chance.
About 10 years ago, i had my hdd crash on me....a friend of mine helped me recover my data using Linux to read the raw data......anything out there that does the same job ?
I also appreciate a step by step guide for the TestDisk program from http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
The Cards size is approx 30mb at the moment, there are no visible marks, scratches or cracks on it.
Please before you answer me, think of any.....really ANY solution that might help me get my data back, i dont want to give up on this yet.
I thought if anything else fails ill send it off to some data recovery center and get the data that way.
Thank you for beeing patient and Reading thru this, have a Nice day
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Another gigantic OP that I couldn't be bothered to read. You may have done this already, but I wouldn't know because I'm not going to fully read that big post, lol. Remove all data from the card and then format the thing. Replace data and try again.
Don't use that "testdisk" program/site. Flash cards/SSDs only have so many reads/writes before they die off. Defragging or performing read/write tests on flash media is not good for the longevity of the medium.
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Another gigantic OP that I couldn't be bothered to read. You may have done this already, but I wouldn't know because I'm not going to fully read that big post, lol. Remove all data from the card and then format the thing. Replace data and try again.
Don't use that "testdisk" program/site. Flash cards/SSDs only have so many reads/writes before they die off. Defragging or performing read/write tests on flash media is not good for the longevity of the medium.
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thanks for Your " time " lol
the data is not readable, i can only read the card With a card Reader plugged into the usb port.
Thank for Your info about the program, will remember that.
ghadkali said:
thanks for Your " time " lol
the data is not readable, i can only read the card With a card Reader plugged into the usb port.
Thank for Your info about the program, will remember that.
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That was a big post man, haha.
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i realy appreciate all answers i can get, still hoping for some help
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im sure someone has had this issue before, or at least heard of someone that has. Microsd's are presumable the Storage media used worldwide
any help still appreciated
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Constantly getting sd card pop up saying click here to transfer files,
despite swiping it away,closing it down, it keeps reappearing every 20 minutes or so!
It seems a problem on some Samsung phones inc Note 10 Plus 5g, but despite trying
most things people have suggested on the net, i cant stop this buggy pop up !
Have even factory reset phone again, and sd card, both in phone, and on laptop
Any one got any solution for it, or have i got a faulty phone?
Card i'm using is a brand new, Integral 256GB Micro SD Card 4K Video Premium High Speed Memory Card SDXC Up to 100MB s Read Speed and 50MB s Write speed V30 UHS-I U3 Class 10
Thanks in advance for any help
Jools
jools2001 said:
Constantly getting sd card pop up saying click here to transfer files,
despite swiping it away,closing it down, it keeps reappearing every 20 minutes or so!
Card i'm using is a brand new, Integral 256GB Micro SD Card 4K Video Premium High Speed Memory Card SDXC Up to 100MB s Read Speed and 50MB s Write speed V30 UHS-I U3 Class 10
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Never heard of the brand of SD Card you're using.
My guess, since it's brand new, it's defective at best.
I'd return it for a refund & get a better known brand such as SanDisk or Samsung.
My guess is that you have a faulty SD card. I would return it if I were you or get a new one. Cheap SD cards malfunction often. I've been a victim myself. That's why I only buy reputable names from sources that will accept returns if damaged. I've lost precious memories due to this issue.
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Thanks for replies, i actually reset phone and card again this morning
thought i fixed the fault, but after 2 hours it came back!
So back to Amazon ,and back to Samsung sd card! lol
Just put the card back into my old Note 8, just to see if it happens on that phone,
as Note 10 is a refurbished like new, and need to see if it the phone or card thats actually faulty,
otherwise retailer is gunna blame the card, and not their phone,and Amazon are going to blame the phone more than likely ! lol
jools2001 said:
Thanks for replies, i actually reset phone and card again this morning
thought i fixed the fault, but after 2 hours it came back!
So back to Amazon ,and back to Samsung sd card! lol
Just put the card back into my old Note 8, just to see if it happens on that phone,
as Note 10 is a refurbished like new, and need to see if it the phone or card thats actually faulty,
otherwise retailer is gunna blame the card, and not their phone,and Amazon are going to blame the phone more than likely ! lol
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Amazon has a no questions asked return policy. Send it back before your return window closes.
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jools2001 said:
Thanks for replies, i actually reset phone and card again this morning
thought i fixed the fault, but after 2 hours it came back!
So back to Amazon ,and back to Samsung sd card! lol
Just put the card back into my old Note 8, just to see if it happens on that phone,
as Note 10 is a refurbished like new, and need to see if it the phone or card thats actually faulty,
otherwise retailer is gunna blame the card, and not their phone,and Amazon are going to blame the phone more than likely ! lol
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A hard reset (OS reload) of the phone effectively addresses viruses, trojans and old OS loads but little else.
Many times the same settings issue remains to be toggled or triggered again.
Find and address the core issue directly.
•Clean card contacts with a tissue and 97% isopropyl alcohol.
•Do a low level format on card if this doesn't resolve the issue, replace the card.
This card works perfectly out of the box:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/accessories/memory-upgrade-time-t4155549
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Never heard of the brand of SD Card you're using.
My guess, since it's brand new, it's defective at best.
I'd return it for a refund & get a better known brand such as SanDisk or Samsung.
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Integral are a good quality lower cost SD card supplier in UK
Not sure how to help the OP out but I have the same card and no issues.
Well i formated old Note 8 memory card
128GB Micro SD SDXC Samsung EVO Plus UHS-I U3 Card
Been in phone now for nearly a day, and no errors or notifications have popped up on my Note 10 Plus!
Obviously the phone didnt like something with this certain Integral card, as it worked back in my old Note 8 without any problem?
One of lifes mysteries, but now gone back to Amazon for my £28 refund, and hopefully no more hassle.
Thanks to everyone who replied
Jools
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jools2001 said:
Thanks for replies, i actually reset phone and card again this morning
thought i fixed the fault, but after 2 hours it came back!
So back to Amazon ,and back to Samsung sd card! lol
Just put the card back into my old Note 8, just to see if it happens on that phone,
as Note 10 is a refurbished like new, and need to see if it the phone or card thats actually faulty,
otherwise retailer is gunna blame the card, and not their phone,and Amazon are going to blame the phone more than likely ! lol
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jools2001 said:
Well i formated old Note 8 memory card
128GB Micro SD SDXC Samsung EVO Plus UHS-I U3 Card
Been in phone now for nearly a day, and no errors or notifications have popped up on my Note 10 Plus!
Obviously the phone didnt like something with this card, as it worked back in my old Note 8 without any problem?
One of lifes mysteries, but now gone back to Amazon for my £28 refund, and hopefully no more hassle.
Thanks to everyone who replied
Jools
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Do a low level format on the computer using a apk like Lexar's designed to do a low level format. Simply wiping the card isn't enough sometimes and without a low level format it will remain corrupted.
Sharing a card between two devices can cause card corruption, try to avoid doing so. Usually you can swap between two Androids but be very wary of swapping with other devices like cams etc. Do a full format in the new device to ensure compatibility and stability. Not doing this can result in corrupted card even if it may seem to be functional at first.
You can lose all the data on the card like this and even if you can recover it, it will be in bits and pieces... more or less a useless heap of disjointed data.
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Do a low level format on the computer using a apk like Lexar's designed to do a low level format. Simply wiping the card isn't enough sometimes and without a low level format it will remain corrupted.
Sharing a card between two devices can cause card corruption, try to avoid doing so. Usually you can swap between two Androids but be very wary of swapping with other devices like cams etc. Do a full format in the new device to ensure compatibility and stability. Not doing this can result in corrupted card even if it may seem to be functional at first.
You can lose all the data on the card like this and even if you can recover it, it will be in bits and pieces... more or less a useless heap of disjointed data.
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I did all the low level format, on both cards, but it still didnt stop the card playing up in my Note 10, and actually corrupting 2 pics,
so i wasnt going to risk that, just needed to make sure it wasnt the phone at fault, as it was only a few days old, but guess it was the card!
lets hope it goes ok from now on! lol
jools2001 said:
I did all the low level format, on both cards, but it still didnt stop the card playing up in my Note 10, and actually corrupting 2 pics,
so i wasnt going to risk that, just needed to make sure it wasnt the phone at fault, as it was only a few days old, but guess it was the card!
lets hope it goes ok from now on! lol
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Sorry to hear that.
I've never blown out a ram stick or SD card.
Remember they can be destroyed by one ESD event; their data ports have limited ESD protection. It can happen instantly or fail weeks even years latter, multiple smaller ESD insults can cause accumulative damage over time as well.
•Never touch the contacts.
•Keep static charges low by keeping RH at 50% or higher in the room.
Lol no wool sweaters.
•Touch yourself to an earth ground to discharge any static buildup or use an ESD strap/mat to keep everything near the same potential.
A little extra care can avoid a lot of cursing latter on...
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Sorry to hear that.
I've never blown out a ram stick or SD card.
Remember they can be destroyed by one ESD event; their data ports have limited ESD protection. It can happen instantly or fail weeks even years latter, multiple smaller ESD insults can cause accumulative damage over time as well.
•Never touch the contacts.
•Keep static charges low by keeping RH at 50% or higher in the room.
Lol no wool sweaters.
•Touch yourself to an earth ground to discharge any static buildup or use an ESD strap/mat to keep everything near the same potential.
A little extra care can avoid a lot of cursing latter on...
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Only ever had one sd ever fail a Toshiba one!
And a pirate one sent from Amazon Warehouse as like new!!!!
Mend pc's in spare time,. so know all about static, perhaps this card was stored next to wooly jumpers in Amazon warehouse! lol
Trust me to get a faulty one!
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I did all the low level format, on both cards, but it still didnt stop the card playing up in my Note 10, and actually corrupting 2 pics,
so i wasnt going to risk that, just needed to make sure it wasnt the phone at fault, as it was only a few days old, but guess it was the card!
lets hope it goes ok from now on! lol
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jools2001 said:
Only ever had one sd ever fail a Toshiba one!
And a pirate one sent from Amazon Warehouse as like new!!!!
Mend pc's in spare time,. so know all about static, perhaps this card was stored next to wooly jumpers in Amazon warehouse! lol
Trust me to get a faulty one!
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If you play with a good ESD meter you'll be amazed how much of charge you can build up on almost any nonconductor. Once the RH drops below 20% ESD becomes very problematic and widespread.
High G impacts ie dropping a chip onto concrete from 3 feet can also kill a chip.
ESD is what kills most of these cards and ram sticks though. If you can see, feel or hear static it's already enough to damage semiconductors. Punch a microscopic hole through an insulation layer only a couple microns thick (doesn't take much voltage to do that) and it's a done deal.
Their service life is tens of thousands of cycles so it's doubtful one will wear out prematurely if used with care. High cycle usage though can wear them out.
My oldest flash cards are 16 yo and still functional.
I've had multiple SanDisk cards fail and a PNY. I've had really good reliability with the Samsung EVO Plus and Select cards.
You can pick up a 512GB Samsung EVO Select from Amazon for under $80.
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Same here, sandisk cards I have used failed miserably, also kingston ones, I ended using ADATA cards, not a single one has failed, ad for speed, I really find them adequate, at least for normal std uses
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I've had multiple SanDisk cards fail and a PNY. I've had really good reliability with the Samsung EVO Plus and Select cards.
You can pick up a 512GB Samsung EVO Select from Amazon for under $80.
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When you say "fail" what do you mean?
A low level format couldn't recover it?
Showed multiple bad sectors?
These cards can be corrupted fairly easily but can be completely salvaged with a low level format.
Without it they will be inaccessible and seem to be "dead". Even new cards can do this.
blackhawk said:
When you say "fail" what do you mean?
A low level format couldn't recover it?
Showed multiple bad sectors?
These cards can be corrupted fairly easily but can be completely salvaged with a low level format.
Without it they will be inaccessible and seem to be "dead". Even new cards can do this.
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I mean as completely dead and unusable. It would not recognize the partition. Sandisk had released a bad batch of 128GBs a while back. They were unreadable on multiple devices.
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I've had multiple SanDisk cards fail and a PNY. I've had really good reliability with the Samsung EVO Plus and Select cards.
You can pick up a 512GB Samsung EVO Select from Amazon for under $80.
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I mean as completely dead and unusable. It would not recognize the partition. Sandisk had released a bad batch of 128GBs a while back. They were unreadable on multiple devices.
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May have been dead but a corrupted card will behave like this. A 3rd party PC low level formatting app can access these corrupted cards and repair their file structure.
Normal formatting tools like Windows one will do nothing if it even can register their presence at all.
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May have been dead but a corrupted card will behave like this. A 3rd party PC low level formatting app can access these corrupted cards and repair their file structure.
Normal formatting tools like Windows one will do nothing if it even can register their presence at all.
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When I mean dead, I mean DEAD. I was unable to do ANYTHING. The partition was not even readable. I used different tools like Recuva and EASUS and got nothing. I've been using SD cards for YEARS. I know how to fix them.
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When I mean dead, I mean DEAD. I was unable to do ANYTHING. The partition was not even readable. I used different tools like Recuva and EASUS and got nothing. I've been using SD cards for YEARS. I know how to fix them.
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If the computer software can't read what's there you won't see any partition. Androids wuv to do that.
That doesn't mean it's dead... as long as you have a low level formatting tool that it shows up when connected it probably is salvageable. Make sure any needed Window drivers are loaded...
If you've had multiple failures it's time to reexamine what you're doing.
I have close to 2 dozen flash cards with some dating back 16 years and no unrecoverable failures. Data was lost but not the bloody card!