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I was wondering if it was possible to have the primary source of power be the USB port versus the battery. I tend to leave my devices plugged in a lot more than I probably should and figured if I could do this it would save on messing up my batteries. It's kind of like having a laptop plugged in without a battery (if you don't really take it out).
Doesn't really help, but if you charge your battery to 100%. you can pull it out as it runs on the usb port from then on. Only worked a few times for me
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Deathsnuggle said:
Doesn't really help, but if you charge your battery to 100%. you can pull it out as it runs on the usb port from then on. Only worked a few times for me
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ive had this happen alot, make sure its plugged in for 10 min but eventually it turns off
No need, the phone will turn off charging when the battery gets full.
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No need, the phone will turn off charging when the battery gets full.
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That's not what I was trying to get at. I was trying to avoid using the battery versus continual draining/charging it. I tend to use it as my hotspot at home for my primary internet connection and sometimes music.
My thought process was if I didn't constantly use the battery I'd keep phone temperature low and not mess up the battery.
Have you ruined batteries in the past by charging them/depleting them? Honestly, I have mine on and off the charger constantly. Today I used my phone to listen to Pandora most of the day and about half way through the day I video chatted with a friend and had it on the charger. I took it off the charger, ran around a little bit away from my house and then came back and it currently sits on the charger again.
From my experience with it, I've never had any issues with keeping it on/off the charger periodically through the day. I am also using a 3500mAh extended battery, but I did the same thing on the stock one.
I understand you are trying to keep temperatures low and play on the safe side, but unless you are noticing unusually high temperatures or something, I wouldn't worry about it being on and off the charger.
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Have you ruined batteries in the past by charging them/depleting them? Honestly, I have mine on and off the charger constantly. Today I used my phone to listen to Pandora most of the day and about half way through the day I video chatted with a friend and had it on the charger. I took it off the charger, ran around a little bit away from my house and then came back and it currently sits on the charger again.
From my experience with it, I've never had any issues with keeping it on/off the charger periodically through the day. I am also using a 3500mAh extended battery, but I did the same thing on the stock one.
I understand you are trying to keep temperatures low and play on the safe side, but unless you are noticing unusually high temperatures or something, I wouldn't worry about it being on and off the charger.
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Yeah, if you're worried about the battery crapping out, I wouldn't. I've had mine on charger every night or every other night, and it's still like new.
Heck, even if it did die on you, you can get a brand new OEM battery on eBay for less than $6 shipped.
Quick tip on battery. If you go online and sprint chat with a representative, just tell him or her your battery life is no good on your phone. Then he or she will tell you go to buy one then get back on chat and sprint will credit your account. I bought $60 battery extended with case and got credited $60 on my bill
Plus now I can charge one night and last two days!
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So I just ordered this charger and it charged my phone from 4% to %100 percent in exactly 3 hours!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051ZJA64/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
Wow, what a great improvement over stock which takes 6+ hours. This makes me believe, that even though the stock output is rated at 1000ma and this charger's output is only rated 700ma that this charges works correctly!
If you have a 1800mah battery and you charge it at a rate of .7A, it should take it exactly 2.57 hours to charge, (1800/700). With stock it should take less, because 1800/1000 = 1.8 hours, but it takes 6+ hours to fully charge! Something is f'ed up with the stock charger or phone's software...
Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
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Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
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At first my charging was extremely slow but now it'll charge from 2 to 100 in under three hours
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I use the Palm charger from my TouchPad. Will go from dead to fully charged in about an hour and a half.
What's you TouchPad charger's output in mah? I think I might have to splice into a spare USB cable and check how much current is actually used by phone when on stock charger...pretty sure it is nowhere close to 1000mah.
2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
I have my original charger from my Evo 4g and have noticed that it charges my phone a lot faster then the stock one that came with the phone. :-( weird
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According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
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That sounds about right! I'll see if I can test this with my AMP meter tonight and tell you all for sure on stock vs new samsung charger that I've got.
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2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
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Yeah, at 2000mah it should charge in less than one hour...I would say your actual charge current to be around 1200mah...
i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
Seems like i must have gotten lucky as a ton of people are having problems with their phone or chargers.
I just charged my battery from 0 to 100% off the stock charger in 2 and a half hours and i also havent gotten any of the dodgy input problems using the phone while charging.
I went back and took a longer look at the battery history when charging. When starting the charge at 65% it starts off around 828mA, then 540mA, then 360mA, so it looks like (as expected) the phone knows how much current to pull to charge the battery safely and it adjusts based on how full the battery is. Not saying it does this for the charger included with your phone, but that is the behavior for the charger included with this phone.
These are all estimates provided by Battery Monitor Widget because there is no real-time mA current meter in this phone (according to the author)
Ordered one of these. Stock charger takes a lifetime to charge the phone.
My GF got Nexus S 4G and it's stock charger also takes 6+ hours to charge, so there's something wrong with the chargers I guess...
The pins on this charger must me different than the stock charger. Just because the stock charger is rated up to 1Ah doesn't meant the phone or batteries circuitry allows that much output. The resistance and length of the USB pins on the cable are what determines the output of the charger. Simply using a different USB cable with the stock charger will get you faster charge times.
Using a 2Ah charger will get you nowhere, the circuitry doesn't allow that strong of a current. Just a bit of an FYI. Save your money and save your phone, use a different USB cable.
Also, how is the charge time holding up? I doubt you're getting a saturated charge with that charger.
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i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
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Ive dealt with 1,2, and 3 cell lipos ranging from 150mah to 5000mah, and every one of them either say to be (or ive been told its recommended to do so) charged at 1C. so a 500mah battery should be charged at .5A, 1000mah at 1A, 5000mah at 5A, etc...
my lipo charger displays a bunch of info as the battery charges and it definitely drops the current as the battery gets closer to being fully charged. if its the same with li-on then I would imagine that .18A should be the most you would charge this battery, but Id rather it take a long time because unless things have changed recently, doesnt the slower you charge the battery prolong its life cycle as well as extend how long it lasts each charge? I only charge mine at night when I am sleeping so who cares if it takes longer than an hour. if I get into an emergency situation I have the cig lighter charger and in the worst case I even have one of those crank flashlights I can use to charge the phone in the event my car battery shorted out or something...
I currently have the CM10.1-M3 build from 4/17/13 installed.
For a long while, I have been having major issues charging my Captivate Glide.
My original battery died. It was bloated. I called AT+T and they sent me a replacement. I also bought two high capacity batteries.
If I leave the phone charging about half the time little or no progress is made charging. Lat night I charged the phone for over 8 hours and the charge went from 10% to 14%.
Other times I will wake up after charging it all night and it will say fully charged, but then the instant it is unplugged from the charger, it will drop down from 100% to 20% or less.
Then once every 3 or 4 days it will actually fully charge. But even in that case the charging is slow at best.
I did a full wipe and re-flashed last night and nothing changed. I have tried charging in airplane mode, but that seems to make it worse. I have had a little tiny bit of success turning mobile data off, but otherwise I have tried everything I could think of with no luck.
Has anyone else experienced similar issues, or have any suggestions? Is this a case where I might need to replace the phone entirely?
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I currently have the CM10.1-M3 build from 4/17/13 installed.
Has anyone else experienced similar issues, or have any suggestions? Is this a case where I might need to replace the phone entirely?
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I did notice a lot longer charge time when hooked up to USB on computer, on my car charger and hooked up to AC I seem to get a lot quicker charge...
What charger are you using?
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I did notice a lot longer charge time when hooked up to USB on computer, on my car charger and hooked up to AC I seem to get a lot quicker charge...
What charger are you using?
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I have tried a few different chargers. I mostly use a 2.1amp wall charger. I also have a 1 amp wall charger, and a 1 amp car charger. I have tried about 3 different car chargers.
I am really suspicious that the micro-usb port on the phone went bad and that I will need to get the phone replaced.
Charging with AC is gonna be alot faster then with DC. But as far as it being the rom I don't see tthat.. sounds like possibly a loose wire or bad connection when u lay ur phone down
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phatryan has a point, do a nandroid backup, flash to stock and see if the charging makes a difference..
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Hello,
When I charge my Captivate Glide with phone powered up plugged in to the wall, using the supplied wall charger, I've noticed that the battery seems to drain quicker. This is with the original battery, I will be getting an extended battery for my phone. If I power the phone down then charge it in to the wall it charges quickly and seems to take longer draining. This does not happen when charging with the PC.
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I currently have the CM10.1-M3 build from 4/17/13 installed.
For a long while, I have been having major issues charging my Captivate Glide.
My original battery died. It was bloated. I called AT+T and they sent me a replacement. I also bought two high capacity batteries.
If I leave the phone charging about half the time little or no progress is made charging. Lat night I charged the phone for over 8 hours and the charge went from 10% to 14%.
Other times I will wake up after charging it all night and it will say fully charged, but then the instant it is unplugged from the charger, it will drop down from 100% to 20% or less.
Then once every 3 or 4 days it will actually fully charge. But even in that case the charging is slow at best.
I did a full wipe and re-flashed last night and nothing changed. I have tried charging in airplane mode, but that seems to make it worse. I have had a little tiny bit of success turning mobile data off, but otherwise I have tried everything I could think of with no luck.
Has anyone else experienced similar issues, or have any suggestions? Is this a case where I might need to replace the phone entirely?
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Bloated battery could just be bad - but it could also be due to overcharging. That's not going to happen unless there is a serious problem with your phone, or possibly a problem with the contacts leading to an incorrect voltage reading. This also may explain your problems charging and sudden jumps in charge %.
Clean your contacts well on the battery side and phone side with a pencil eraser, rubbing alcohol, etc.
I notice a big difference with whatever kernel is shipping with the current M3 cm10.1 build between a 500ma charger and 2amp charger, so I imagine the kernel is set for a 750ma or 1amp charge.
I've had my Nexus 5x for a couple months now, I bought it through amazon refurbished. (My girlfriend has the same device, she bought hers brand new. Her's is the international model though) Here's a listing of the charging cables, and chargers that I have:
Anker Quick Charge 3.0 and USB Type-C 24W USB Wall Charger http://amzn.to/2mitz3n
Anker A to C 6ft cable http://amzn.to/2lbw2HW
Anker 24W Dual Port Charger http://amzn.to/2mx16Tt
(I bought the a to c cable to be able to connect to pcs or whatever, and the charger i had for my Nexus 5 and other micro usb devices.
Standard Google Charger https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_18w_power_adapter
Obviously the middle item there doesn't charge at full speed, it isn't intended to. But my charge rate using any of those devices is still over all over the place within each of those items specifications. So it isn't likely that is a cable or charger issue which is normally the issue when someone has charging rate problems. yes i know the charging rate slows down as it reaches higher percentages to prevent over charging and other types of battery damage.
My phone can be down to 20% battery when I plug it in and it could start charging at 110mA or 2000mA+. Whatever rate it is though, it isn't going to stay that way for very long. If it starts low, then it might work its way up into the 700-900s slowly or to around 1000mA. If it starts up high 2000mA it'll likely start working its way down slowly into the 1000-1800mA range.
Sure charging at slower rates helps the battery to last longer, but when i have no control over this, and at times it discharges faster than it is even charging it is bad. I can actually deplete battery sometimes, if its charging while video chatting. Albeit very very very slowly, but still. The battery life and range seems to be very good aside from this charging issue. The connection port on the phone seems really quite solid as well and wiggling the cord doesn't seem to affect the charge rate as best as I can tell.
My girlfriends 5x charges in about half the time that mine does, or sometimes its even worse, i just have to pay attention to what it is doing when i plug it in. So my question is, is this a battery problem or is there something else going on with the phone? What is it that throttles the charge rate down as the battery % gets higher? Is there a chance this could be faulty and causing it to be all over the place like this? Any ideas about this would be very helpful thanks in advance.
Ps: I really do love the device, it works great, I have no issues with it beyond the charging rates that can be all over the place. I can go from 10% battery to 75% sometimes in half an hour or so. Then i get times where it takes well over an hour for that much.
(I use ampere to measure the charge rates)
Charge rate goes down with higher battery temperatures. Let the device cool down a bit before plugging in, also keep the screen off to allow it to charge at full speed.
The charge will also slows down as it fills up, the last 10% will take the longest.
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Charge rate goes down with higher battery temperatures. Let the device cool down a bit before plugging in, also keep the screen off to allow it to charge at full speed.
The charge will also slows down as it fills up, the last 10% will take the longest.
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I appreciate you taking the time to respond, since you are the only one thus far. But as I said I'm aware of the charging slowing down for those reasons, and I've got another device to compare to. It isn't the same, and the device isn't hot.
There is no problem with your battery. The phone is badly designed. Unfinished SoC combined with a small battery and a big screen. Your money is better spent on something else.
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There is no problem with your battery. The phone is badly designed. Unfinished SoC combined with a small battery and a big screen. Your money is better spent on something else.
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He's not talking about battery life. He's talking about charging times.
Personally, no issues with charging here. Always goes 15% to ~90% in 60 minutes with the stock charger.
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EeZeEpEe said:
He's not talking about battery life. He's talking about charging times.
Personally, no issues with charging here. Always goes 15% to ~90% in 60 minutes with the stock charger.
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"...So my question is, is this a battery problem or is there something else going on with the phone?"
Also, I have no problems charging it either.
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"...So my question is, is this a battery problem or is there something else going on with the phone?"
Also, I have no problems charging it either.
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Yet you talked about unfinished SoC and small battery. ? If anything, small battery would be charging faster.
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"...So my question is, is this a battery problem or is there something else going on with the phone?"
Also, I have no problems charging it either.
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I don't have any issues with my battery discharge rate. For what it is, and what I use if for I'm happy with it. And from what I've read about the usages from others I think I have no issues there compared to others. I'm just referring to the charging rates, the way it charges
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Yet you talked about unfinished SoC and small battery. ? If anything, small battery would be charging faster.
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But due to an unfinished and rushed SoC, it doesn't charge faster. The charge rate of this device is limited to 40% of it's intended charge rate.
Sinistersky said:
Your money is better spent on something else.
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Fairly pointless comment considering I've got one already, it isn't me asking if I should buy one. Point taken though that you aren't happy with the device
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He says he already owns the device. No point in telling him how poor his purchase decision was. And it wasn't that poor of a decision considering how good it is. It stands up fairly well to my abuse and the small screen is OK to grip.
OK, a serious question:
1. Charging speed is affected by Charger (the thing that plugs into the wall), the Cable (how long or thick it is), and the Battery (how hot, how full it is). This is the basic, moving on.
2. Sometimes the C port is buggy and doesn't correctly detect the maximum amount that a cable+charger combo supports. Download Ampere or some other current measuring tool like GSam (although I never bother with GSam, Ampere is awesome), and make sure the max amperage is 3000 mAh. Anything lower than that means you have a low-powered charger, a less-than-optimal cable, or a hot or near-full battery. I recommend plugging it in at around 50% to make sure the near-full charge speed drop doesn't affect anything during your tests.
3. If that doesn't work, replace the battery. Final line advice.
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He's already using Ampere to measure and has 3 chargers to compare with.
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I found LG's Battery Charging kit BCK-5200 on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M5C23SV
I haven't bought it but am thinking about buying it along with the phone someday soon. Does anyone have this or something similar? And is it realistic to just have a spare battery, charge that, and then swap batteries whenever appropriate? That way I wouldn't need the charge cord under daily use.
Realistic?
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Because I bought the phone specifically because I wanted one with a removable battery, I also purchased the extra battery with charging kit when I purchased the phone. I thought it was always a good idea to have an already charged extra battery just in case the situation arose where I drained my battery and needed an immediate charge and did not have access to a charger and/or did not want to wait for the phone to charge, even with the fast charging.
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Realistic?
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Very realistic. Look!
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Very realistic. Look!
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Nicely done!!! Hat off to you
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Very realistic. Look!
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That wasn't quite what I was looking for, lol. But thanks.
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I bought the cradle and extra battery when I got the phone. I think it's totally worth it and the only way to really use this phone. I hate waiting for my phone to charge so now I just swap batteries on the fly.
For the record, I bought my H918 as a certified refurbished device.
I found that the charger (with a type C outlet to the phone) that came with my phone was delivering a spotty current. The phone also came with one charge cord, with USB C on each end. That was going to be useless to me since all my other power sources were type A.
Since then I bought a set of 3 adapters so I could use all my micro USB cords. As it turns out, none of them are effective and deliver extremely low current and don't allow me to connect to my computer.
No matter, as I'd also ordered a different package of 2 spare batteries and a wall charger for one battery. The guidance said I should let the battery charge a full 12 hours before I swapped it in, so I did that.
Ever since then, my solution has been to just switch out the battery when it's empty, and by then the battery is charged. To clarify, I feel like the battery charges on the wall better than 12 hours empty to full, but even if that was an issue I'd still have another battery, and I'd still have the usual charge cord option.
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Since then I bought a set of 3 adapters so I could use all my micro USB cords. As it turns out, none of them are effective and deliver extremely low current and don't allow me to connect to my computer.
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i find this strange as i use the charging cable that came with my Lg G4 with a micro to C adapter and it charges around 13.5 W
No matter, as I'd also ordered a different package of 2 spare batteries and a wall charger for one battery. The guidance said I should let the battery charge a full 12 hours before I swapped it in, so I did that.
Ever since then, my solution has been to just switch out the battery when it's empty, and by then the battery is charged. To clarify, I feel like the battery charges on the wall better than 12 hours empty to full, but even if that was an issue I'd still have another battery, and I'd still have the usual charge cord option.
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The phone should fully charge in around 2h if fast charging is operational. Do bear in mind that the screen needs to be off for fast charge to work otherwise charging rate drops to 5W
I have the kit and that charges at around 8.5W which was a surprise to me as a similar kit for the G4 averaged half as much