I've had my Nexus 5x for a couple months now, I bought it through amazon refurbished. (My girlfriend has the same device, she bought hers brand new. Her's is the international model though) Here's a listing of the charging cables, and chargers that I have:
Anker Quick Charge 3.0 and USB Type-C 24W USB Wall Charger http://amzn.to/2mitz3n
Anker A to C 6ft cable http://amzn.to/2lbw2HW
Anker 24W Dual Port Charger http://amzn.to/2mx16Tt
(I bought the a to c cable to be able to connect to pcs or whatever, and the charger i had for my Nexus 5 and other micro usb devices.
Standard Google Charger https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_18w_power_adapter
Obviously the middle item there doesn't charge at full speed, it isn't intended to. But my charge rate using any of those devices is still over all over the place within each of those items specifications. So it isn't likely that is a cable or charger issue which is normally the issue when someone has charging rate problems. yes i know the charging rate slows down as it reaches higher percentages to prevent over charging and other types of battery damage.
My phone can be down to 20% battery when I plug it in and it could start charging at 110mA or 2000mA+. Whatever rate it is though, it isn't going to stay that way for very long. If it starts low, then it might work its way up into the 700-900s slowly or to around 1000mA. If it starts up high 2000mA it'll likely start working its way down slowly into the 1000-1800mA range.
Sure charging at slower rates helps the battery to last longer, but when i have no control over this, and at times it discharges faster than it is even charging it is bad. I can actually deplete battery sometimes, if its charging while video chatting. Albeit very very very slowly, but still. The battery life and range seems to be very good aside from this charging issue. The connection port on the phone seems really quite solid as well and wiggling the cord doesn't seem to affect the charge rate as best as I can tell.
My girlfriends 5x charges in about half the time that mine does, or sometimes its even worse, i just have to pay attention to what it is doing when i plug it in. So my question is, is this a battery problem or is there something else going on with the phone? What is it that throttles the charge rate down as the battery % gets higher? Is there a chance this could be faulty and causing it to be all over the place like this? Any ideas about this would be very helpful thanks in advance.
Ps: I really do love the device, it works great, I have no issues with it beyond the charging rates that can be all over the place. I can go from 10% battery to 75% sometimes in half an hour or so. Then i get times where it takes well over an hour for that much.
(I use ampere to measure the charge rates)
Charge rate goes down with higher battery temperatures. Let the device cool down a bit before plugging in, also keep the screen off to allow it to charge at full speed.
The charge will also slows down as it fills up, the last 10% will take the longest.
bblzd said:
Charge rate goes down with higher battery temperatures. Let the device cool down a bit before plugging in, also keep the screen off to allow it to charge at full speed.
The charge will also slows down as it fills up, the last 10% will take the longest.
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I appreciate you taking the time to respond, since you are the only one thus far. But as I said I'm aware of the charging slowing down for those reasons, and I've got another device to compare to. It isn't the same, and the device isn't hot.
There is no problem with your battery. The phone is badly designed. Unfinished SoC combined with a small battery and a big screen. Your money is better spent on something else.
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There is no problem with your battery. The phone is badly designed. Unfinished SoC combined with a small battery and a big screen. Your money is better spent on something else.
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He's not talking about battery life. He's talking about charging times.
Personally, no issues with charging here. Always goes 15% to ~90% in 60 minutes with the stock charger.
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He's not talking about battery life. He's talking about charging times.
Personally, no issues with charging here. Always goes 15% to ~90% in 60 minutes with the stock charger.
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"...So my question is, is this a battery problem or is there something else going on with the phone?"
Also, I have no problems charging it either.
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"...So my question is, is this a battery problem or is there something else going on with the phone?"
Also, I have no problems charging it either.
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Yet you talked about unfinished SoC and small battery. ? If anything, small battery would be charging faster.
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"...So my question is, is this a battery problem or is there something else going on with the phone?"
Also, I have no problems charging it either.
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I don't have any issues with my battery discharge rate. For what it is, and what I use if for I'm happy with it. And from what I've read about the usages from others I think I have no issues there compared to others. I'm just referring to the charging rates, the way it charges
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Yet you talked about unfinished SoC and small battery. ? If anything, small battery would be charging faster.
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But due to an unfinished and rushed SoC, it doesn't charge faster. The charge rate of this device is limited to 40% of it's intended charge rate.
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Your money is better spent on something else.
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Fairly pointless comment considering I've got one already, it isn't me asking if I should buy one. Point taken though that you aren't happy with the device
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He says he already owns the device. No point in telling him how poor his purchase decision was. And it wasn't that poor of a decision considering how good it is. It stands up fairly well to my abuse and the small screen is OK to grip.
OK, a serious question:
1. Charging speed is affected by Charger (the thing that plugs into the wall), the Cable (how long or thick it is), and the Battery (how hot, how full it is). This is the basic, moving on.
2. Sometimes the C port is buggy and doesn't correctly detect the maximum amount that a cable+charger combo supports. Download Ampere or some other current measuring tool like GSam (although I never bother with GSam, Ampere is awesome), and make sure the max amperage is 3000 mAh. Anything lower than that means you have a low-powered charger, a less-than-optimal cable, or a hot or near-full battery. I recommend plugging it in at around 50% to make sure the near-full charge speed drop doesn't affect anything during your tests.
3. If that doesn't work, replace the battery. Final line advice.
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He's already using Ampere to measure and has 3 chargers to compare with.
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For anyone using Android 4.0, specifically running it as stock on this device, do you experience the same battery drain issues commonly seen in Gingerbread? You know the one where the process Android OS uses an ungodly amount of battery life through suspend and events/0?
been playing around with the phone for the past 8 hours from a full charge, nothing unusual about the battery
tomorrow with normal usage after the full charge i'll get a better view about it
h9290 said:
been playing around with the phone for the past 8 hours from a full charge, nothing unusual about the battery
tomorrow with normal usage after the full charge i'll get a better view about it
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Does it take long to charge the battery? Like the nexus s. If its a slow charging phone like the nexus s then im not buying.
didn't think that fully charging it toke that much
i usually leave the phone charge when i go to sleep
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I own Nexus S too and experience the same, slow charging ... using the charger from Samsung (default).
So, I changed the charger and I use the one that came with the HTC Desire
And it is much faster, like 3 hours to go fully charged compared to more than 5 hours.
So, there you go, change your charger!
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Does it take long to charge the battery? Like the nexus s. If its a slow charging phone like the nexus s then im not buying.
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I can usually get my nexus S to a full charge in an hour or two, depending on how empty I let it get. It's fast enough that if I've forgot to charge & need to go out a 20 minute blast will get me through the evening.
No idea who made the charger.. I've got a house full of the damned things these days
So what about life time?
Just check your chargers mA output, the higher the nr, the faster the charge. A computer USB port outputs 500mA wich gives a rather slow charge normal mA on chargers is around 700mA -> 1A. Keep in mind though that higher mA resulting in a faster charge puts more stress on your battery and it WILL get hotter, to high numbers can even damage your battery so be carefull and monitor your batterys temp when trying a new charger!
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7:30 and the battery is on 58%
been using it since 9:15 off charge. browsing/gps/wifi and browsing
h9290 said:
didn't think that fully charging it toke that much
i usually leave the phone charge when i go to sleep
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7:30 and the battery is on 58%
been using it since 9:15 off charge. browsing/gps/wifi and browsing
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Wow! That sounds really really good tbh! Makes me really happy to hear :-D
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Slightly off topic, but regarding charging...
Does charging via a "weaker" USB port damage the battery? For example, at work, the only USB port available is an old iMac keyboard USB port, and it's "weaker" in the sense that when I connect it to my phone, the computer tells me "A USB device needs more power.... "
I understand this might charge the battery slower, but does it cause any damage to it, short or long term?
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Slightly off topic, but regarding charging...
Does charging via a "weaker" USB port damage the battery? For example, at work, the only USB port available is an old iMac keyboard USB port, and it's "weaker" in the sense that when I connect it to my phone, the computer tells me "A USB device needs more power.... "
I understand this might charge the battery slower, but does it cause any damage to it, short or long term?
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As far as i know USB before 2.0 needed external power supply, meaning your device should not be able to charge from this type of USB. But to answer your question, no, you can not damage an electric device by undervoltage or lower Amps.
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Hope to get the GN soon.
Like to see and test how the charging is with different chargers.
Have seen slow charging ( also better hold out ) with different chargers.
My best charging is stil with the original desire ( charges quick and battery holds longer ).
Galaxy S plus is slow, wildefire also slow...
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the ZTE Axon 7 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
On Quick Charge, it's fast. On a older computer, it's painfully slow. In my car, on a standard charger, it's not too bad. I just bought a QC 3.0 charger for my car and it'll charge about 30% in my 35 minute drive home (have to test that some more).
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On Quick Charge, it's fast. On a older computer, it's painfully slow. In my car, on a standard charger, it's not too bad. I just bought a QC 3.0 charger for my car and it'll charge about 30% in my 35 minute drive home (have to test that some more).
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I would double check the charger port and make sure your plugging into the QC 3.0 port, and not the 2.0A port (not sure if yours has one as well or not) my Axon 7 charges about 45-50% in my 25 minutes ride home so It doesnt sound like its charging quite as fast, unless its QC2.0
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I would double check the charger port and make sure your plugging into the QC 3.0 port, and not the 2.0A port (not sure if yours has one as well or not) my Axon 7 charges about 45-50% in my 25 minutes ride home so It doesnt sound like its charging quite as fast, unless its QC2.0
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Which car charger you have?
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Have tried to push the battery as hard as I can while charging at the same time. The phone won't stall or drop charge thankfully. Gets a little hot but nothing like other phones I've owned (Nexus 6P would boil, OnePlus one would slowly drop battery until it died, iPhone 5s would get too hot to touch, HTC M7 would also become too hot to touch and unresponsive). If you're wondering if you can use this phone with GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi Hotspot, Data, Spotify while charging at the same time you can.
B27 A2017U, From 37% to 95% in 45 minutes. 5 minutes of screen and one 5 min call during charging. I won't use fast charge often because I don't need it, battery health is more important to me.
Charging speed is very fast. Battery life is great. I usually have ~20% left after running it from about 6AM to 11PM. I did misconnect the charger dongle one night, and so was at 11% starting the day. I switched to ultra power saving mode and was at 10% at the end of the day!?!
Charging speeds tbh are fairly decent. On QC 3.0 i get about 95% in about 1 hour. Nothing compared to Dash charge on the OP3, that method is insanely fast. To compare OP3's 3000 mah takes about 40~45 minutes to top off. Considering the additional 250maH on the Axon, i think the 1 hour approx charging time is good. I suppose once you get the taste of Dash charging, QC becomes less palatable
P.S. Axon's power saving mechanisms are actually quite good. No need for any 3rd party apps. I don't miss Greenify considering the background apps get killed when the screen goes off. So battery life being decent is a good trade off.
I've been impressed by the charging speed. It's close to the Moto X Pure that I loved.
I've personally never had a phone that had any type of quick charge until this phone, so I'm certainly impressed.
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Question: is QC3 a killer of battery? Is charging at low amp better, or...? Cuz I read here and there that it's still better to use a slow speed charging device so that the battery doesn't heat up and doesn't wear off too fast.
What are your thoughts about that?
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Hello
Question: is QC3 a killer of battery? Is charging at low amp better, or...? Cuz I read here and there that it's still better to use a slow speed charging device so that the battery doesn't heat up and doesn't wear off too fast.
What are your thoughts about that?
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If you charge it before you sleep, I would use a charger with a lower am so it can prolong the battery's life. Using quick charge 3.0 is convenient, but it will certainly decrease the battery's life over a period of time.
Before bed: Not recommended to use another adapter to charge any phone that didn't come with it, but I would use a different adapter with a slower charging rate and voltage.
When you're about to go out or etc: Quick charge 3.0
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I use the Aukey charger. I have 2 portable QC3 and one "traditional" QC3 also. And I forgot which brand but a good one as a slow speed charger.
I thought that QC3 was different than the "old" high speed charger because it had something to do directly with the SnapDragon. The "old" high speed chargers are just sending more amps like 2A or more, while QC3 is more "controlled" so it didn't affect the battery. Am I totally wrong?
Has anyone noticed their charging time increase by 10-20 minutes or so? Could be my imagination as I also have an op3 now..
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Has anyone noticed their charging time increase by 10-20 minutes or so? Could be my imagination as I also have an op3 now..
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Probably your imagination. Dash charge is much faster that QC. If your phone's charging up in an hour it's fine.
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Probably your imagination. Dash charge is much faster that QC. If your phone's charging up in an hour it's fine.
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even faster than QC3.0?
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even faster than QC3.0?
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Oh yes absolutely. I came from an OP3 to Axon. It's the only thing I miss about the OnePlus 3. And the ROM. And the front finger print scanner. And updates.
On a more serious note, Dash charge is really fantastic. As advertised. 3000 mAh takes 40 to 45 mins, but the most important feature is that it doesn't heat the phone up and using the OP3 while charging is a better experience.
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I think QC3 is already pretty fast, so... Charging low speed when I'm not in a rush, following some (your?) advices here.
I had ordered a 1+3 and canceled when I saw the Axon7, but I had also a Dash Charger on the way and couldn't cancel that one. Too bad they're two different technologies
The 1+3T is... nice
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I think QC3 is already pretty fast, so... Charging low speed when I'm not in a rush, following some (your?) advices here.
I had ordered a 1+3 and canceled when I saw the Axon7, but I had also a Dash Charger on the way and couldn't cancel that one. Too bad they're two different technologies
The 1+3T is... nice
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Yeah i absolutely hate the existence of the op3t cause it has everything that op3 didn't. And yeah don't use the dash charger with anything else unless you like watching things getting smoked up.
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Question: is QC3 a killer of battery? Is charging at low amp better, or...? Cuz I read here and there that it's still better to use a slow speed charging device so that the battery doesn't heat up and doesn't wear off too fast.
What are your thoughts about that?
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I don't trust it to keep the battery in good condition over a long time. So I use a normal charger instead.
I plan to use this phone for many years, so I'm worried that the fast charging might do damage to the battery in the long term or shorten its lifespan, so I'd rather charge it "slower". Is there a way to turn off the fast charging in the OS? Or is my worry unsubstantiated?
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I plan to use this phone for many years, so I'm worried that the fast charging might do damage to the battery in the long term or shorten its lifespan, so I'd rather charge it "slower". Is there a way to turn off the fast charging in the OS? Or is my worry unsubstantiated?
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You made my night... Slower charger kills battery not fast charging.. fast charge save battery to be honest. And you dont have to be worry since the batteries now are LI-lon . Go get info in google about the batteries . All i can say you got infos wrong.
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Agree with previous post. But if it makes you feel better, just don't use a dash charger...
Very simple.
lummujaj said:
You made my night... Slower charger kills battery not fast charging.. fast charge save battery to be honest. And you dont have to be worry since the batteries now are LI-lon . Go get info in google about the batteries . All i can say you got infos wrong.
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OK. I didn't know.
I was speaking from my past experience with Samsung Galaxy Note 4. I bought couple of original Samsung batteries and rotate them throughout daily usage. I noticed a significant difference in battery life comparing the ones that I used fast charge on vs the ones I didn't. After that I stick to NOT using fast charge.
Of course, that's nothing scientific. And Samsung uses a different fast charge mechanism (higher voltage) than OnePlus (higher current), so there could be difference there too.
Because Dash Charge seems to be re-labeled Vooc charging from OPPO, I can tell you, that the last two years with charging minimum one times every day, there is no bad effect on the battery (still the first one).
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OK. I didn't know.
I was speaking from my past experience with Samsung Galaxy Note 4. I bought couple of original Samsung batteries and rotate them throughout daily usage. I noticed a significant difference in battery life comparing the ones that I used fast charge on vs the ones I didn't. After that I stick to NOT using fast charge.
Of course, that's nothing scientific. And Samsung uses a different fast charge mechanism (higher voltage) than OnePlus (higher current), so there could be difference there too.
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Samsung devices are notorious for killing batteries and its more likely hardware than it is the battery itself, u will be fine
I have a similar question: does it make any problem if I leave the phone in (dash) charge for the whole night? I mean, if I sleep for 7hrs I'll have 1h of fast charging and 6hrs of nothing-but-charger-heating. Will this habit hurt the phone's battery or the charger itself?
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I plan to use this phone for many years, so I'm worried that the fast charging might do damage to the battery in the long term or shorten its lifespan, so I'd rather charge it "slower". Is there a way to turn off the fast charging in the OS? Or is my worry unsubstantiated?
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I use Samsung 1.5 Amp charger and keep my battery between 40% to 80%
I think these are best for long term usage.
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I have a similar question: does it make any problem if I leave the phone in (dash) charge for the whole night? I mean, if I sleep for 7hrs I'll have 1h of fast charging and 6hrs of nothing-but-charger-heating. Will this habit hurt the phone's battery or the charger itself?
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I used a samsung S3 before and overnight charging killed my battery! Bless samsung for making battery removable on S3!
If i were you, I wouldn't leave my precious OP3 on an all-night charge.
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I used a samsung S3 before and overnight charging killed my battery! Bless samsung for making battery removable on S3!
If i were you, I wouldn't leave my precious OP3 on an all-night charge.
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Well, it was my first thought, but everyone in this topic is telling me that OP works different than Samsung!
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I used a samsung S3 before and overnight charging killed my battery! Bless samsung for making battery removable on S3!
If i were you, I wouldn't leave my precious OP3 on an all-night charge.
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that's the problem of the charger or the phone itself. thecharger is designed not to charge when the battery is full. What I want to say is you experienced an accident and sorry for you.
The most serious threat to the battery is high temperature. OnePlus 3 reduce the charging heat by its dash charge. The dash charge pushes low voltage directly to the phone, which mitigates the heating problem by pushing high electric current and making the voltage transition process in dash charger. Most of other phones still use high voltage because they fail to create high current. recalling the physics in high school, the power is current multiplied by voltage and energy equals to power multiplied by time. than you would understand the powerful feature of dash charge
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that's the problem of the charger or the phone itself. thecharger is designed not to charge when the battery is full. What I want to say is you experienced an accident and sorry for you.
The most serious threat to the battery is high temperature. OnePlus 3 reduce the charging heat by its dash charge. The dash charge pushes low voltage directly to the phone, which mitigates the heating problem by pushing high electric current and making the voltage transition process in dash charger. Most of other phones still use high voltage because they fail to create high current. recalling the physics in high school, the power is current multiplied by voltage and energy equals to power multiplied by time. than you would understand the powerful feature of dash charge
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The power is current multiplied by voltage so what's the difference between high current mutiplied by low voltage versus low current multiplied by high voltage ?
2V x A = V x 2A
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The power is current multiplied by voltage so what's the difference between high current mutiplied by low voltage versus low current multiplied by high voltage ?
2V x A = V x 2A
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qc3.0 uses low current and high voltage. Dash uses high current and low voltage. As a result, they have similar power and both charge quickly. However, the heating problem is more serious for qc 3.0. The difference of the battery voltage and charger voltage is the leading factor that determines the transition efficiency. The bigger the difference is, the more heat charging process generates.
So~ you could look up for qc3.0. for mi 5, it has three adaptive mode: 5V2.5A、9V2A、12V1.5A. for dash, we have 5V4A
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I have a similar question: does it make any problem if I leave the phone in (dash) charge for the whole night? I mean, if I sleep for 7hrs I'll have 1h of fast charging and 6hrs of nothing-but-charger-heating. Will this habit hurt the phone's battery or the charger itself?
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There is no problem with leaving your phone on the charger. I do this with every phone since years.
If people experience something bad with it, their phone or battery are broken. The current tech just keeps the battery at full capacity once it's full. Never had any problem.
So many "opinions" but mostly incorrect. The answer to the OPs question is that you don't have to worry about quick charge destroying your battery. It will not have significant impact on your battery capacity. I would have been more worried about breaking the usb type-c port(see point 2 below). All things considered, after 2-3 years you will probably buy a new phone anyway and also you can always buy a replacement battery cheap. But you can simply use a normal charger which delivers <3A with 5V so you don't have to worry about anything.
1- Slow charge does not damage lithium-ion chemistry batteries. You can read about lithium-ion charging here. But neither fast charge will damage lithium-ion as long as the battery temperature is not extremely high. Also temperature at different charge stages effect the capacity decrease (source) But you will be fine as long as the battery temperature is less than 45C. The charging IC should stop the charging process if it exceeds it anyway.
2- Qualcomm's quick charge is much better than voop/dash charge from an engineering standpoint. This is why also USB organization's power delivery (PD) standard uses similar scheme. The problem is the cable and the connector. The maximum allowed current at 5V is 3A with usb type-c connector (source). If you provide more current, you need to use a thicker cable(dash/vooc cables). But you can't change the connector, and it may damage your connector in the long run to use 3+A currents to charge. Because there is a contact resistance (R) and the power lost in the connector is square of current (I) times R. Meaning R*I^2, it will wear off the connector faster. This is why some companies with some engineering skills opt in to use higher voltages instead of higher currents.
3- You can't push more current to lithium-ion battery than it accepts. The maximum current is voltage delta (between charging voltage and battery voltage) divided by internal resistance. This is why you can charge empty battery much faster. If you use an app like Ampere from play store, you can see the voltage of your battery before and after you plug in your charger. If you plug in a normal charger, you will see that it goes up a little bit. If you plug a quick charger it goes up to ~4.35V
4- Yes, there is conversion inefficiencies for quick charge inside the phone, and it will warm up the "phone" and battery only indirectly. The conversion IC are normally >90% efficient (source). This does not mean that your battery will be destroyed. It is perfectly fine to charge lithium-batteries with up to 45C temperatures (source).
4- If overnight charging killed your battery, your battery was faulty (or you had 3rd party battery?). The battery should be capable of holding 4.35v charge. You would need to store battery at 4.35V full charge for over 3 months to loose 20% capacity (http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_store_batteries). Having full charge few hours overnight won't destroy it unless your battery or device is faulty.
With all this information, I would rather opt in for USB-PD/Qualcomm Quick Charge solutions than VOOC/DASH solutions. I think eventually only USB-PD will remain and everybody will use it as a standard only.
Hi,
Is it possible to turn off the dash charge? 5T is charged only overnight cause it can last the whole day anyway.
PS: I can turn off Fash Charge in my Samsung Note. So it saves battery if I charge only overnight and don't need fast charge feature.
There is no stock option for this. Maybe a custom kernel can support it or a custom kernel that doesn't support it at all would also be a possibility in theory.
I would suggest using a normal power adapter instead of the Dash charging one. Even a normal USB C cable prevents Dash charging as it can only be used with OnePlus' own cable. So maybe get a cheap USB C cable and use that?
Use a low amperage charger. Something like 1000mah. This will slowly charge your phone overnight. But make sure you use a quality charger.
Why would you want to do this? The OnePlus dash charger works differently from other chargers in that it holds the heat in the charging block. If you use a standard adapter you would transfer the heat to the phone while charging. I would NOT recommend doing this.
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I use an Anker IQ 6-port Charger with a couple of fairly good quality cables.
I personally try to avoid any kind of fast charge because it will end up damaging the battery life faster than "standard" charge, even if the heat is absorbed by the DASH charger block. IQ Charge adapts itself with the needs of the device connected.
And my unit stays cool if I touch it while its charging.
Charge however you want. But for me, dash charger while getting ready in the morning or when you have a free half hour. Forget about charging overnight. I don't know your usage but for me, this works. The phone just sits on my nightstand without connecting overnight and I lose a very minimal battery amount.
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https://www.guidingtech.com/61180/dash-charging-quick-charge. I'll just leave this here.
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That's why we can choose
Just not in a software way.
I choose to use wireless charging using a receiver.
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DragonMessor said:
Use a low amperage charger. Something like 1000mah. This will slowly charge your phone overnight. But make sure you use a quality charger.
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It's fine at even less than 1 amp. We have two 5Ts in the house and charge them at night at 0.35 - 0.45 amp.
I saw the dash reduce Ampare when pass above 80%.
(When not rush I use official iPhone 1Amp charger.)
Use 5V/2A standard charger to standard usb type c.
Oneplus 5t = 5V/4A
Quick Charge = 9V/2A
Dash n QC have more power!
I'm using an old 1A Samsung power adapter and dash charge cable and in addition I also use Battery Charge Limit app to limit charging the battery to 80%.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/root-battery-charge-limit-t3557002
Headbanger1982 said:
I personally try to avoid any kind of fast charge because it will end up damaging the battery life faster than "standard" charge
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No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
SilverSurger said:
No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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Your informations are not correct.
Dash (or VOOC, which is the very same technology since OnePlus is an Oppo brand) uses high current fast charging instead of high voltage charging (QuickCharge 2.0/3.0 uses high voltage) and the circuit that produces heat in phones that are not Dash/VOOC compliant is inside the phone, while in Dash/VOOC is inside the charger.
Oppo and OnePlush themselves have acknowledged that it makes SAFE to use the phone while it is quickcharging, NOT that the battery is not getting damaged by the use of a fast charging method, even if it charges at a lower voltage and higher current.
The use of any fast charge technology implies to shorten out the overall battery life.
SilverSurger said:
No, it does not, especially not with dash charge. The excess heat is stored in the charger and is not transferred to the phone, and the heat is the only thing that degrades the battery faster.
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Just because they moved a bunch of the power regulation stuff to the charger doesn't mean the battery doesn't still get warmer. If you push 4 amps of current into it, it will heat up more so than when it receives, 1 amp.
Now you have me curious though, I guess I'll have to pay close attention to the battery temp next time I charge my battery. I've never used the dash charger, but perhaps I'll have to get it out of the box, and test with it as well just to see what kind of temps I see with a more powerful charger as well. I'm curious to see how much temperature difference there is.
I know on my Nexus 5X my phone always lasted long on a single charge when slow charged (0.35 amps), vs using the factory 3 amp charger.
Constantly topping up the battery overnight for 5-6 hours (assuming your slow charger will charge it to 100% in 2-3 hours) is worse than using Dash to charge it quickly in bursts in the morning and night when you have a spare 30 minutes.
I would never leave a phone stuck on a charger overnight. Especially since even the slowest charger in the works will charge the phone to 100% in three hours or so.
xocomaox said:
Constantly topping up the battery overnight for 5-6 hours (assuming your slow charger will charge it to 100% in 2-3 hours) is worse than using Dash to charge it quickly in bursts in the morning and night when you have a spare 30 minutes.
I would never leave a phone stuck on a charger overnight. Especially since even the slowest charger in the works will charge the phone to 100% in three hours or so.
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I don't charge my phone over night either but by using above mentioned Battery Charge Limit app it is possible to stop charging when desired battery level has been reached.
Squabl said:
I don't charge my phone over night either but by using above mentioned Battery Charge Limit app it is possible to stop charging when desired battery level has been reached.
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That would be a good idea to do. Although the best is to just Dash charge in short 30 minute bursts when you can.
Headbanger1982 said:
Your informations are not correct.
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The use of any fast charge technology implies to shorten out the overall battery life.
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How does it imply that? Heat is the only factor. Phone is not getting hot(ter than slowly charging) when charging.
What is the truth? With the rapid charging the battery deteriorates faster or better a slower charging?
What’s the best way to charge the phone to maintain battery health?
1. Will Regular use of Warp charge cause any long term harm to battery?
2. Charging from ~10 to 100 (full charge) or keep it 30% to 70%
Other opinions say that newer batteries don’t need this kind of manual care,the circuitry takes care of it
Any tips?
I've had a lot of phones, cameras, and RC cars with lithium batteries (lithium ion in the first two and lithium polymer in the latter). Done a lot of research, and found out mainly lithium batteries don't like to be full or empty, they don't like heat, nor bring charged too quickly. People can say what they want about new tech, when I use any type of quick charge my phone gets hotter than if I use a normal 2.4a 5v charge.
I've read similar things about 30 to 70 or 80 percent, but that falls into the things I'm not willing to do category. I need my phone full when I leave for the day. And conversely, I don't like having my phone plugged in all night, if I go to bed at 9 it's full by 11 and sitting there at 100% until I wake up. To that end I bought a charger on Amazon for like $10 that shuts off once the phone is full. Sure, it's at like 96 or 97% when I wake up but whatever. Brand is 'Bull', it's white and has two buttons on the top to initiate the charge on either port. Been using it for three months and it works flawlessly.
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I've had a lot of phones, cameras, and RC cars with lithium batteries (lithium ion in the first two and lithium polymer in the latter). Done a lot of research, and found out mainly lithium batteries don't like to be full or empty, they don't like heat, nor bring charged too quickly. People can say what they want about new tech, when I use any type of quick charge my phone gets hotter than if I use a normal 2.4a 5v charge.
I've read similar things about 30 to 70 or 80 percent, but that falls into the things I'm not willing to do category. I need my phone full when I leave for the day. And conversely, I don't like having my phone plugged in all night, if I go to bed at 9 it's full by 11 and sitting there at 100% until I wake up. To that end I bought a charger on Amazon for like $10 that shuts off once the phone is full. Sure, it's at like 96 or 97% when I wake up but whatever. Brand is 'Bull', it's white and has two buttons on the top to initiate the charge on either port. Been using it for three months and it works flawlessly.
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Or try Battery Charge Limit app, if you are rooted. It lets you set when the charging will stop. Mine stops at 80% and only charges again if it drops below 75%.
I mean you can worry about all this but in reality, how long do you plan to keep the phone? On avg phone batteries lose charging efficiency around 6 months from what I've seen. Also the phones hardware stops charging the batt at 100pct and runs on AC power after that while plugged in.
If you keep it for years and years, this is why they make replacement batteries even for iPhones so just don't worry and keep it charged if that's what you want
Galaxea said:
Or try Battery Charge Limit app, if you are rooted. It lets you set when the charging will stop. Mine stops at 80% and only charges again if it drops below 75%.
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I wish they would build that natively into Android. I don't generally root, but that's tempting. My laptop does something similar, desk use mode or something, stops charging at 60% and stays there. My wife's will actually let you set the upper threshold, Dell gaming G series I think.
Josh McGrath said:
I mean you can worry about all this but in reality, how long do you plan to keep the phone? On avg phone batteries lose charging efficiency around 6 months from what I've seen. Also the phones hardware stops charging the batt at 100pct and runs on AC power after that while plugged in.
If you keep it for years and years, this is why they make replacement batteries even for iPhones so just don't worry and keep it charged if that's what you want
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This is actually true. (Y)
toyboarder said:
........ I don't like having my phone plugged in all night, if I go to bed at 9 it's full by 11 and sitting there at 100% until I wake up. To that end I bought a charger on Amazon for like $10 that shuts off once the phone is full. Sure, it's at like 96 or 97% when I wake up but whatever. Brand is 'Bull', it's white and has two buttons on the top to initiate the charge on either port. Been using it for three months and it works flawlessly.
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Do you have a link for this charger?
Also, is a cable included?
THX.
Edit: Found it....
THX for sharing this @toyboarder ,much appreciated!
USB Wall Phone Charger, Power Port 2 12W 2.4A with Foldable Plug, BULL Ultra Compact Dual Port Travel Power Adapter for iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/876/Plus, iPad,Samsung S4/S5 and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076F5NNV2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_dLDTDbBAYG1N0
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note Fan Edition using XDA Labs
Galaxea said:
Or try Battery Charge Limit app, if you are rooted. It lets you set when the charging will stop. Mine stops at 80% and only charges again if it drops below 75%.
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KOLIOSIS said:
Do you have a link for this charger?
Also, is a cable included?
THX.
Edit: Found it....
THX for sharing this @toyboarder ,much appreciated!
USB Wall Phone Charger, Power Port 2 12W 2.4A with Foldable Plug, BULL Ultra Compact Dual Port Travel Power Adapter for iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/876/Plus, iPad,Samsung S4/S5 and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076F5NNV2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_dLDTDbBAYG1N0
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note Fan Edition using XDA Labs
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Yep that's it, I've bought a couple for techie friends too.