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This chager charges my phone from 4% to %100 in exactly 3 hours.

So I just ordered this charger and it charged my phone from 4% to %100 percent in exactly 3 hours!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051ZJA64/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
Wow, what a great improvement over stock which takes 6+ hours. This makes me believe, that even though the stock output is rated at 1000ma and this charger's output is only rated 700ma that this charges works correctly!
If you have a 1800mah battery and you charge it at a rate of .7A, it should take it exactly 2.57 hours to charge, (1800/700). With stock it should take less, because 1800/1000 = 1.8 hours, but it takes 6+ hours to fully charge! Something is f'ed up with the stock charger or phone's software...

Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...

Android Amateur said:
Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
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At first my charging was extremely slow but now it'll charge from 2 to 100 in under three hours
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I use the Palm charger from my TouchPad. Will go from dead to fully charged in about an hour and a half.

What's you TouchPad charger's output in mah? I think I might have to splice into a spare USB cable and check how much current is actually used by phone when on stock charger...pretty sure it is nowhere close to 1000mah.

2000mah is the output from the TP charger.

According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.

I have my original charger from my Evo 4g and have noticed that it charges my phone a lot faster then the stock one that came with the phone. :-( weird
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sfhub said:
According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
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That sounds about right! I'll see if I can test this with my AMP meter tonight and tell you all for sure on stock vs new samsung charger that I've got.

awesomeindeed said:
2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
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Yeah, at 2000mah it should charge in less than one hour...I would say your actual charge current to be around 1200mah...

i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.

Seems like i must have gotten lucky as a ton of people are having problems with their phone or chargers.
I just charged my battery from 0 to 100% off the stock charger in 2 and a half hours and i also havent gotten any of the dodgy input problems using the phone while charging.

I went back and took a longer look at the battery history when charging. When starting the charge at 65% it starts off around 828mA, then 540mA, then 360mA, so it looks like (as expected) the phone knows how much current to pull to charge the battery safely and it adjusts based on how full the battery is. Not saying it does this for the charger included with your phone, but that is the behavior for the charger included with this phone.
These are all estimates provided by Battery Monitor Widget because there is no real-time mA current meter in this phone (according to the author)

Ordered one of these. Stock charger takes a lifetime to charge the phone.

My GF got Nexus S 4G and it's stock charger also takes 6+ hours to charge, so there's something wrong with the chargers I guess...

The pins on this charger must me different than the stock charger. Just because the stock charger is rated up to 1Ah doesn't meant the phone or batteries circuitry allows that much output. The resistance and length of the USB pins on the cable are what determines the output of the charger. Simply using a different USB cable with the stock charger will get you faster charge times.
Using a 2Ah charger will get you nowhere, the circuitry doesn't allow that strong of a current. Just a bit of an FYI. Save your money and save your phone, use a different USB cable.
Also, how is the charge time holding up? I doubt you're getting a saturated charge with that charger.

SpaceMonky said:
i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
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Ive dealt with 1,2, and 3 cell lipos ranging from 150mah to 5000mah, and every one of them either say to be (or ive been told its recommended to do so) charged at 1C. so a 500mah battery should be charged at .5A, 1000mah at 1A, 5000mah at 5A, etc...
my lipo charger displays a bunch of info as the battery charges and it definitely drops the current as the battery gets closer to being fully charged. if its the same with li-on then I would imagine that .18A should be the most you would charge this battery, but Id rather it take a long time because unless things have changed recently, doesnt the slower you charge the battery prolong its life cycle as well as extend how long it lasts each charge? I only charge mine at night when I am sleeping so who cares if it takes longer than an hour. if I get into an emergency situation I have the cig lighter charger and in the worst case I even have one of those crank flashlights I can use to charge the phone in the event my car battery shorted out or something...

Galaxy Nexus 3G charging time (with graph)

Hello *@*,
I intentionally discharged my GN to a battery level of 1% today to record the charging time just for myself. Then I thought: why not make a graph out of it and share it with XDA?
Total charging time (1% to 100%): 142 minutes
Level checked at 0, 30, 60, 90, 120, 125, 130, 135, 140 and 142 minutes
WiFi On, 3G On, Sync On, Screen Off, no calls/msgs/notifications received, phone not used except for % check
1750 mAh Samsung stock battery & charger

Stock or extended battery? I've noticed my charge time varies wildly. Most of the time it's on par with what you've listed here, but every once in a while it goes up 30% in like 20 mins.

Drewmungus said:
Stock or extended battery? I've noticed my charge time varies wildly. Most of the time it's on par with what you've listed here, but every once in a while it goes up 30% in like 20 mins.
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3G, 1750 mAh stock battery. Sorry, I forgot about that.

Its so curious how the charge can be faster at the start

Rickymax said:
Its so curious how the charge can be faster at the start
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Get a more powerful charger.... I'm using my playbook charger, which uses a 2.1 amp... Way faster than 142 mins... Mine takes about 1:30 to charge from 1% to full.
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Rickymax said:
Its so curious how the charge can be faster at the start
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All capacitors acts this way (a battery is also a capacitor) the charge/discharge is always fsstest to 63% both ways and after that it slowes down.. this can ofcourse be monitored and controlled with soft or hardware. But this is the reality of capacitors
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big samm said:
Get a more powerful charger.... I'm using my playbook charger, which uses a 2.1 amp... Way faster than 142 mins... Mine takes about 1:30 to charge from 1% to full.
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isnt it bad for the battery when it is not designed to receive charge that quickly?

All about charging LiIon batteries: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
TL;DR:
LiIons are charged in two main stages:
- stage 1 with constant current, that's the fast charging rate for (roughly) the first 2/3 of the batteries capacity
- stage 2 with constant voltage and a tapered charge current for the last 1/3 of the batteries capacity, that's the slow part where the graph flattens
This is necessary because a LiIon battery is full at exactly 4.20 V and can not handle any overcharge. In fact at ~4.55 V (only + 0.35 V!) the battery would "vent with flame" aka explode.
If you wanna do this on purpose, this is what will happen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCWdnjLqVWw
Using a more powerful charger can work if the electronics inside the GN handle the higher current properly. I wouldn't recommend it, though. It may charge quicker but it will wear down your battery faster as well.

The phone can only draw up to 1A regardless of much higher the charger is.
So if you're buying a charger, don't bother paying extra for a 2A, but there is no harm in using a 2A charger if you already have one.

wonshikee said:
The phone can only draw up to 1A regardless of much higher the charger is.
So if you're buying a charger, don't bother paying extra for a 2A, but there is no harm in using a 2A charger if you already have one.
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But I can assure you that my phone charges faster with my Playbook charger than the regular charger that came with the phone... How many amp the regular charger uses?
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big samm said:
But I can assure you that my phone charges faster with my Playbook charger than the regular charger that came with the phone... How many amp the regular charger uses?
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Stock charger is 5V/1A (=5 watts). There may be some leeway built into the GN's charging electronics so it can utilize more than 5 watts, but you can safely assume that Samsung would have packaged this phone with a 10 watt charger if it was safe (or desirable in terms of charging time vs. battery durability). Charging time is an important aspect after all.

The phone can absolutely handle it. I think Samsung is just too cheap to give us a rapid charger, I mean there was enough space in the box.
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My car charger is a 2amp charger and does approximetly 1 percent a minute. At home I connect it to my HP Touchpad charger and it seems to charge really quick.
But I LOOOOOOVE my car charger as it can charge my Tablets and phones fast. Well worth the 30 bucks I spent at Best Buy for the rapid charger.

surely a 2amp charger is capable of providing 2amps, but if whatever is attached only drawers 1amp then that's what it'll get ? It doesn't force 2 amps down it's throat ? My palm pre 2 charger is 1amp, my touchpad has a 2 amp charger, but my palm pre doesn't charge any quicker using the touchpad charger.

My Gnex does charge really fast using the plug that came with it especially coming from galaxy s2 which takes ages for a full charge.

alphaola said:
My Gnex does charge really fast using the plug that came with it especially coming from galaxy s2 which takes ages for a full charge.
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+1 I found the gnex really fast charging compared to my sgs2. With the sgs2 I always had it plugged in for fear of a flat battery with the gnex the charging is so fast I don't care anymore.
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AcE XBOX said:
My car charger is a 2amp charger and does approximetly 1 percent a minute. At home I connect it to my HP Touchpad charger and it seems to charge really quick.
But I LOOOOOOVE my car charger as it can charge my Tablets and phones fast. Well worth the 30 bucks I spent at Best Buy for the rapid charger.
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FYI, 1% a min is roughly 1A.
In 1 hour, it would restore 60%, 60% of 1.750A = 1.050A.
Nexus battery is the perfect size to eyeball the inflow rate.
30%/hr = .5A
60%/hr = 1A
60%/30min = 2A
If you think you're charging at 2A, simply time it. Also these are rough numbers and will only be accurate when the battery is low.

10 hours to recharge phone ??????????

Can anyone tell me why it takes so long to recharge my phone ?
I use a charger cable from my computer (usb) to phone while at work --- then I also use it at home too.
Is it only the wall charger that does it fast ? not USB/laptop/computer ?
Last night it took me 10 hours (phone was on but I didn't touch it for 10 hours - internet/wifi/3g was OFF)
why does it take 10 hours ?
Is something wrong with the phone? battery? or is it the charger ?

USB only has a small amount of current that goes through it. Enough to power small USB devices and no more. I believe it's around 500mAH. But your phone is always drawing power, so the excess is what actually charges your battery. Your wall charger is 1000mAH which means there is plenty of current to charge your battery even with heavy usage.
Tl;dr: USB is weak and 10hrs is normal. Wall charger is much more powerful and faster.
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damn thanks for the great reply.
Further more, I was at my friends house once, and he has a black berry (same charger as my SGS3) and he passed me this cord to charge and it honestly charged the entire phone from 5% to 90% in like less than an hour...
not sure wtf this was but is it possible ? is it bad for the phone ? for the battery ?

10 hours is not normal. And the average wall charger that comes with your phone is 750mAH, not 1000. The 1000mAH chargers are quick charge ones.
The fact that the blackberry charger worked well on your S3 tells me that you should get a new charger.

where does one find one of the quick chargers to buy ? (1000mAH)

you can find all sorts of chargers on amazon. you can find inexpensive ones at walmart too. i would recommend buying a samsung charger for your samsung phone. hold onto the one that came with your S3, even if it takes forever to charge. just use it to connect to your pc for file transferring, odin, etc.

Even though charging quickly seems good but if you can afford the time then use the one you already have z charging too quickly affects your battery health negatively , a slow charger will make sure your battery stays healthy for a long time , mind it by slow I mean a 750 mAH one not a faulty one in case yours is faulty .

xBeerdroiDx said:
10 hours is not normal. And the average wall charger that comes with your phone is 750mAH, not 1000. The 1000mAH chargers are quick charge ones.
The fact that the blackberry charger worked well on your S3 tells me that you should get a new charger.
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The S3 charger is 1000mAH. I have two of them that came with my phones. And anytime I connect my phone to my computer I can leave it connected for hours and only charge a few percent. This phone just draws a lot of power.
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d3athsd00r said:
The S3 charger is 1000mAH. I have two of them that came with my phones. And anytime I connect my phone to my computer I can leave it connected for hours and only charge a few percent. This phone just draws a lot of power.
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thats interesting because i have 4 samsung chargers. 2 came with my old S2's and 2 came with my 2 S3's. the output on all 4 is 700mAH. i got robbed. of course, connected to a PC the output is max 500. even at that, i still get a better charge than a few percent when connected to a PC for hours.

Very slow charging

Anyone else notice that with the supplied charger charging ins't what it should be. My iPhone 5 charged almost twice as fast as this phone. I find it kind of annoying. I did order one of these chargers hoping that solves the issue.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPTU00E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The supplied charger is charging rapidly no doubt.
I guess not less than 1% per minute - particularly when below 70%..

jauhien said:
The supplied charger is charging rapidly no doubt.
I guess not less than 1% per minute - particularly when below 70%..
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No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.

I'm having literally no issues with charging from dead to 25% in about 15 minutes. 2 hours to 100% im very happy with the speed of charging and this is using my m8 charger as the m9 one is still sealed in box.
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MattMJB0188 said:
No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
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I went with this one and it working like a champ, 30% to 100% in 50 min
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QTJZ3D0/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've been using the GS4 charger, with a high output cable. The Samsung charger is 1.5A where the HTC m8/m9 charger is 1.0A

the supplied charger is definitely giving 1.5 amps to mine. charges up pretty quick. with a quickcharge 2.0 charger it's crazy fast to charge.
One thing to note is it will take a faster charge the lower the battery level is, which means more heat. if you're also gaming with it, you could be bumping against the battery charging cutoff temperature. I only ever saw this happen on my Tegra HOX+. IIRC HTC has the notification LED blink in alternating green and orange/red when this happens. I'm guessing you would have mentioned temperature in the OP if this was the case, but I figured I'd bring it up.

gonzo237 said:
The Samsung charger is 1.5A where the HTC m8/m9 charger is 1.0A
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Just spread your arm, pick whether HTC M8 or M9 charger, and read upon it.. 8)
Both M8 and M9 chargers are - 1.5 Ampere.. furthermore both handhelds are charging fast - otherwise if the cable is a problem..

jauhien said:
Just spread your arm, pick whether HTC M8 or M9 charger, and read upon it.. 8)
Both M8 and M9 chargers are - 1.5 Ampere..
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Sorry, meant it was 1.5a for HTC and 2.0a for the Samsung one. Didn't have them on hand to check.

iPhone 5 battery is 1,440 mAh... M9 battery is 2,840 mAh. 50% charge of Iphone battery doesn't equal 50% charge of M9 battery, in terms of charge time.
I believe the rate of charging to decrease while you use it to prevent the phone from overheating. (My M8 does this as well)
My stock charger is fast, and my quick charge 2.0 is crazy fast.

MattMJB0188 said:
No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
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If you are using your phone and charging at the same time, it will take longer to charge....

as someone who had a nexus 6 with turbo charging. this is bad. charging is so slow.

joetang97 said:
If you are using your phone and charging at the same time, it will take longer to charge....
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I got a qualcomm 2.0 charger and now its super fast.

MattMJB0188 said:
I got a qualcomm 2.0 charger and now its super fast.
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Yeah, this. I got an HTC Rapid Charger 2.0 for it just to be sure since I knew with certainty it's Quick Charge 2.0. In retrospect perhaps not the best move considering I'm essentially incentivising HTC for not including one in the box from the get go, but whatever.

MattMJB0188 said:
No its not. Especially when your using the phone and its on 5% plugged in. Takes forever to reach 6%.
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Yup i got the same issue gonna take me 6-11hrs to charge and its very slow charging

I had a similar problem to OP. The second night I had my phone I plugged it in at 11 pm with about 5% battery left and went to bed. At 5:15 the next morning (6 hours later) it was only at 85%. I can't tell if there's still a problem or I just think there is because I'm paranoid about it now. I haven't run my battery down that low since, and looking at the charge current with Ampere seems somewhat inconclusive. I may have to run it down and then keep an eye on it while charging to see what's going on.

Something IS wrong with SOME M9 phones (I think)
I have one of the "bad" ones. Mine takes hours and hours to charge, whether on the cable and plug that came in the box, or on any others that I have around - some I know are 2 Amps. I think there is something seriously wrong with some of these phones, based on what I am reading in this thread, and on my own example. I have had my M9 for just a few days.

I'd like to post a follow up to this thread after having the phone for a couple of weeks now.
I've had several occurrences where my phone didn't fully charge overnight. The worst was a few days ago, I plugged it in at 5% and the next morning (6-8 hours) it was at 1%, it actually lost charge. I noticed before unplugging it so I looked at the history in Battery Widget Reborn and it showed the battery level just slowly dropped from 5% to 1% without any jumps or dips. The battery icon at the top of the screen showed it was charging but it died at that point so I didn't get a chance to open Ampere.
I think it's the charger (and/or the cable) that came with the phone. I've tried several other chargers that have all worked reliably:
- The QuickCharge 2.0 charger that came with my wife's S6 charges my phone really fast.
- I have a Kmashi external battery that also seems to charge it relatively quickly.
- Two older chargers that are several years old (both rated 5 volts at 0.7 amps) charge it from around 30% to full in 3-5 hours.
At first I thought it might have been a wakelock problem, but the battery has been dropping so slowly when the phone is just sitting in my pocket that I'm confident now that it's not wakelocks. I don't know if HTC is likely to send a replacement, but I'm going to stop into the Verizon store that I got the phone from to see if they'll replace it.
Gilligan

My phone is also odd when charging.
Half of the time it takes 6 hours or more to charge. If I look at GSAM battery monitor it shows a charge current of around 350mA. If I then unplug the charger and reconnect after 15 seconds I get over 1300mA charging current, most of the time. (It takes GSAM a while to show an accurate reading). Occasionally it will take a few tries to get it right. Once I get a good reading over 1300mA the phone will charge in 1.5 hours like it should.
Something very buggy about this phone's charging circuit. I get the same behaviour with all chargers and cables, even my battery bank.

MattMJB0188 said:
Anyone else notice that with the supplied charger charging ins't what it should be. My iPhone 5 charged almost twice as fast as this phone. I find it kind of annoying. I did order one of these chargers hoping that solves the issue.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HPTU00E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I use a 2A tablet charger from my hp touchpad. Charges from dead to 100% in 45 minutes.

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Moto Z2 Play can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

TurboCharge 3.0 is amazing

Battery live no more than 4 hours

Nomadi75 said:
Battery live no more than 4 hours
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4 hours? seems a little low, i get easily 3 day with the battery mod, and never had a problem getting to bed with phone still alive, so it last at least 1 day. i have normal usage, social media, couple video calls, online banking, tickets etc...alsa charging is fast for me, i come from a moto g2

The phone heats up a lot while charging with its TurboPower charger, it would be nice a toggle for disabling QuickCharge when not needed.

I never had better phone in my life. Charging is amazing fast, and Moto turbo power mod is awesome. No need to leave phone for charging, leave Moto mod and put on the phone while done. Usually for me it is a matter if I can disconnect charging before phone battery reaches 80%. After over a year battery status shows my phone still has 2850mAh, but all the degradation is taken by Moto mod. Time to change it, but of course... not able to buy it anywhere.

Was great first year when 10w charge was working. Now takes forever and only lasts 4 hours like the guy said. Too bad it uses internal battery.

I just bought a XT170-9.
Battery was 0%, production date exactly 2 years ago.
I think I will return the phone. A lithium battery that has been empty for an unknown period of time is not new any more.
Charging time with 3A 15 W is
30 min - 50%,
60 min - 80%
70 min - 90%
is this normal or too fast for a new battery?

I used USB C PD 18 watts and it's charging rather quickly.
Yes, it supports 18 watts PD charging

JPT223 said:
I just bought a XT170-9.
Battery was 0%, production date exactly 2 years ago.
I think I will return the phone. A lithium battery that has been empty for an unknown period of time is not new any more.
Charging time with 3A 15 W is
30 min - 50%,
60 min - 80%
70 min - 90%
is this normal or too fast for a new battery?
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50% in 30min is pretty standard, most QC 3.0 takes near that time to reach 50%
I don't know about 80% and 90% either, but I think not having the battery charged for a long time doesn't affect Quick Charge charging time.
But you are right, you should return the phone. I have had bad experiences with batteries being dead 0% for a long time.

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50% in 30min is pretty standard, most QC 3.0 takes near that time to reach 50%
I don't know about 80% and 90% either, but I think not having the battery charged for a long time doesn't affect Quick Charge charging time.
But you are right, you should return the phone. I have had bad experiences with batteries being dead 0% for a long time.
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Thanks for the answer. I decided to keep the phone. It's a year since I bought the phone and I believe I start to see some drop in capacity now. but apart from that the phone has a very good battery.
Well, low charging times could indicate low capacity...

JPT223 said:
Thanks for the answer. I decided to keep the phone. It's a year since I bought the phone and I believe I start to see some drop in capacity now. but apart from that the phone has a very good battery.
Well, low charging times could indicate low capacity...
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What kind of charger are you using? Motorola Turbopower 18w?
You know, brand new phones don't have their batteries draining earlier, they at least last like 1-2 years before you notice drop in battery life. If the drop is sudden like from 1 month or 2 them the battery might be the problem, but then since its Moto Z you could try buying those Battery Pack Mods, and they're sort of a strike of luck to get one that actually works the best since regarding Moto Mods people has mixed opinions towards them, because not all of them works flawlessly and some may get faulty mods, which is why there are negative opinions towards them.

leodexe said:
What kind of charger are you using? Motorola Turbopower 18w?
... you could try buying those Battery Pack Mods, and they're sort of a strike of luck to get one that actually works the best since regarding Moto Mods people has mixed opinions towards them, because not all of them works flawlessly and some may get faulty mods, which is why there are negative opinions towards them.
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Yeah, I got two Moto 18 W charger and one 12 V Anker USB-C charger which delivers similar power.
that's a good idea, to buy a battery mod instead of replacing the battery. will keep that in mind.
At least you could disassemble the mod and replace the battery and won't risk damaging your phone.
only drawback: the mods are super heavy, got the Hasselblad and the Sound Mod.