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[Q] Will HTC Desire support android 3?

Hi,
Will HTC Desire support android 3?
Thanks...

Probably not seeing as 3.0 is for tablet computers

EddyOS said:
Probably not seeing as 3.0 is for tablet computers
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Thanks. So it Doesn't run on other mobile devices like Desire HD too, Does it?
When is the approximate time of android 3 release?
Regards

A quick Google...
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...android-3-0-rumours-and-latest-updates-706243

in the link you gave says:
As we reported earlier in July, a Russian podcast details how Android 3.0 will be restricted to high-end handsets (and tablets). The podcast explained that Android 3.0 phones will require at least a 1GHz processor, 512MB of RAM and 3.5-inch or larger displays.
UPDATE: A Korean electronics firm is claiming that Android 3.0 will actually require a dual-core processor to run.
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So if we trust the first podcast, So both Desire and Desire HD will support android 3.0.
But if we believe on second podcast; even Google Nexus S doesn't support android 3.0.
Is android 3.0 the next version of android after 2.3 ? Or there will be another version between them?
Thanks again

Who knows...

I read somewhere about 2.4. I can't imagine 2.3 is going to be the end for now.

Well the android platform is most definately as open as it has ever been and thus there are no hardware requirements, as everyone is allowed to download and run the code on whatever device they want to.
So yes the desire will "support" 3.0, as it is built like any other android release. Though it will probably require some better hardware in order to run smoothly, but google will not set a minimum requirement, as it is an open platform.
The ui though is most definately not meant for phones, and Andy also said so in a interview with engadget at CES. He mentioned, that what we see in 3.0 on tablets is the way the android ui is going, but that the ui was made for tablets. So even though we are probably capable of running it, i don't think the experience will be that great
My hopes is for them to reveal something new for phones at google I/O

Thanks Dear Friends EddyOS, esudl and mortenmhp...
mortenmhp said:
So even though we are probably capable of running it, i don't think the experience will be that great
My hopes is for them to reveal something new for phones at google I/O
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is android going out of smartphone market for ever and fill tablet markets? it will be so bad that we'll miss a powerful platform on smartphones

Of course it won't but Google have to compete with Apple so it was natural for there to be a different version for Tablets and Smartphones

Ok so it's acceptable if we'll have two branch from Android 3.0

It's acceptable that phones might skip 3.0 altogether! Who knows...just enjoy what you've got

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It's acceptable that phones might skip 3.0 altogether! Who knows...just enjoy what you've got
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Yeah You are right

I imagine that to make things easier for development for now 3.0 will be tablet only, and then eventually they'll just merge it all together... as said - phones will probably skip 3.0 all together - maybe join back at Android OS4.0?

Lothaen said:
I imagine that to make things easier for development for now 3.0 will be tablet only, and then eventually they'll just merge it all together... as said - phones will probably skip 3.0 all together - maybe join back at Android OS4.0?
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According to EddyOS; Who Knows ...

Google know just aren't saying...
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After Desire HD ...maybe Goophone N3?

Hi there people,
I have my DHD from Jan 2012 and back then two core phones were quite expensive, now with KitKat android it seems the phone is quite fast but still one core is one core, trying to do multiple things and the phone seems slow. Also if you are in hurry and you want to make a phonecall while having some apps open makes the process SLOWWWWWWWWWWWW
So I'm thinking of upgrading, but some phones cost quite much and I did like the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 spec-wise but I didn't like the price. The best price I could find it in my country is 560Euro + 5Euro(shipping) to my door.
So I though why not buy a clone with the new Chinese 8 core processor(which isn't overheat) and performs quite good(and WAY better than the DHD)?
Price? $259.99(without shipping) or around 190 Euro
From what I see here: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/01/06/goophone-n3-v-s-samsung-note-3-whats-different-on-benchmark/
(Goophone N3 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 3) the difference is about 27.3% which is not much while the performance/price ratio is perfect.
What do you think?
P.S. I'd prefer if the Goophone N3 had many custom roms available but that will come eventually if more and more users are buying this phone. This Chinese 8 core processor is quite new so it will take some time before we'll see any custom rom laying around.

evronetwork said:
Hi there people,
I have my DHD from Jan 2012 and back then two core phones were quite expensive, now with KitKat android it seems the phone is quite fast but still one core is one core, trying to do multiple things and the phone seems slow. Also if you are in hurry and you want to make a phonecall while having some apps open makes the process SLOWWWWWWWWWWWW
So I'm thinking of upgrading, but some phones cost quite much and I did like the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 spec-wise but I didn't like the price. The best price I could find it in my country is 560Euro + 5Euro(shipping) to my door.
So I though why not buy a clone with the new Chinese 8 core processor(which isn't overheat) and performs quite good(and WAY better than the DHD)?
Price? $259.99(without shipping) or around 190 Euro
From what I see here: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/01/06/goophone-n3-v-s-samsung-note-3-whats-different-on-benchmark/
(Goophone N3 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 3) the difference is about 27.3% which is not much while the performance/price ratio is perfect.
What do you think?
P.S. I'd prefer if the Goophone N3 had many custom roms available but that will come eventually if more and more users are buying this phone. This Chinese 8 core processor is quite new so it will take some time before we'll see any custom rom laying around.
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I have been searching the chinese market for quite some time and i found that mediatek (MTK) processors are pretty much closed source, So don't expect to many custom roms exept for some chinese ones like miui/lewa OS. I will probably buy a chinese phone but not one that is powered by a MTK processor but i'm mostly for the oppo find 5 wich has forum here on xda it also has Snapdragon quad core 1.5 Mhz , 13 mp sony camera , nfc ,steel frame , dlna , and the is fully gpl comliant and open source. :victory: . you can take a look at it here
http://europe.oppostyle.com/find-5/9-find-5-midnight.html

bondocel said:
I have been searching the chinese market for quite some time and i found that mediatek (MTK) processors are pretty much closed source, So don't expect to many custom roms exept for some chinese ones like miui/lewa OS. I will probably buy a chinese phone but not one that is powered by a MTK processor but i'm mostly for the oppo find 5 wich has forum here on xda it also has Snapdragon quad core 1.5 Mhz , 13 mp sony camera , nfc ,steel frame , dlna , and the is fully gpl comliant and open source. :victory: . you can take a look at it here
http://europe.oppostyle.com/find-5/9-find-5-midnight.html
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I know about oppo mate, also they will have soon the find 7. But it's not as expensive as it should. I mean you can get a Xiaomi Mi3 with snapdragon 800 at the same price with 64GB on board (300E for 16GB and 350E for 64GB) - the problem is that you can't easily find that
P.S. If cyanogenmod could support MTK processors it would be a real game-changer. Cheap 8 core phone with similar performance as some of the top-line phones.
EDIT: Alternative you can see phones like this "Faea F2 Elite" and the company is working with cyanogenmod to bring some life to the phone. Source: http://www.gizchina.com/2014/01/17/cyanogenmod-faea-f2s-getting-closer/
So if a cyanogenmod version exists(if they complete it), it would be a Chinese phone with MTK cpu and open source android . Based on that I expect CM to roll on many Chinese devices(officially or unofficially)
I've seen the "Alcatel One Touch Idol X+" also know as TLC Idol X+ S960 with a pricetag of 300E (runs at 2GHz 8 core MTK) and performs quite good also it accepts microsd cards(up to 32GB), the only thing is the 2500mAh seems a bit low for a 5" phone but it's quite enough for most of the things. I'm thing it very seriously as I can get it without much hassle.

evronetwork said:
I know about oppo mate, also they will have soon the find 7. But it's not as expensive as it should. I mean you can get a Xiaomi Mi3 with snapdragon 800 at the same price with 64GB on board (300E for 16GB and 350E for 64GB) - the problem is that you can't easily find that
P.S. If cyanogenmod could support MTK processors it would be a real game-changer. Cheap 8 core phone with similar performance as some of the top-line phones.
EDIT: Alternative you can see phones like this "Faea F2 Elite" and the company is working with cyanogenmod to bring some life to the phone. Source: http://www.gizchina.com/2014/01/17/cyanogenmod-faea-f2s-getting-closer/
So if a cyanogenmod version exists(if they complete it), it would be a Chinese phone with MTK cpu and open source android . Based on that I expect CM to roll on many Chinese devices(officially or unofficially)
I've seen the "Alcatel One Touch Idol X+" also know as TLC Idol X+ S960 with a pricetag of 300E (runs at 2GHz 8 core MTK) and performs quite good also it accepts microsd cards(up to 32GB), the only thing is the 2500mAh seems a bit low for a 5" phone but it's quite enough for most of the things. I'm thing it very seriously as I can get it without much hassle.
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For the past year i have been going on and off about buying one of those phones. I probably will but untill i see a fully gpl compliant mtk phone/phablem i's sticking with snapdragon . I want an oppo find 5 because i have played with one for a few days on cm rom and it is magnificent compared to my DHD. And it ships from EU warehouse so no more import taxes. I also liked zopo very much and thl and gionee and the list could go on and on and on :highfive: But frankly i thing we should switch to some of these " no name" phones so that brands like samsung ot htc or lg could lower the prices to a more resonable value . Some devices are pure rip-offs

evronetwork said:
P.S. I'd prefer if the Goophone N3 had many custom roms available but that will come eventually if more and more users are buying this phone. This Chinese 8 core processor is quite new so it will take some time before we'll see any custom rom laying around.
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You can instantly forget any proper support for than knock-off. I would expect some more unexpected drawbacks from it as well.
IMO better go for used proper smartphone, than brand new some hyeagizil.

bondocel said:
For the past year i have been going on and off about buying one of those phones. I probably will but untill i see a fully gpl compliant mtk phone/phablem i's sticking with snapdragon . I want an oppo find 5 because i have played with one for a few days on cm rom and it is magnificent compared to my DHD. And it ships from EU warehouse so no more import taxes. I also liked zopo very much and thl and gionee and the list could go on and on and on :highfive: But frankly i thing we should switch to some of these " no name" phones so that brands like samsung ot htc or lg could lower the prices to a more resonable value . Some devices are pure rip-offs
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Oppo is a great phone but price is not better than any other brand phone. Oppo N1 has a snapdragon 600 at 1.7GHz and costs 449E from their Europe store, it's not exactly a bargain and although you can get it with either CM or colour-something(their os based on android), I hear that there are still lot of bugs
P.S. No 4.4 support ..yet
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You can instantly forget any proper support for than knock-off. I would expect some more unexpected drawbacks from it as well.
IMO better go for used proper smartphone, than brand new some hyeagizil.
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That's the only problem.. the support, the lack of CM roms and if for any reason you have a problem you can turn to no one as the people who have it probably don't don't more than you..

nice mobile

I've got a mediatek tablet and it's dual core @ 1.5ghz with 1gb ram and it lags worse than any device I've had... At the beginning there was no lag, over time (3 months) it started to happen. The build.prop was modified for any graphical usage to be low density which is how it had no lag...
Before buying anything Chinese make sure the specs are correct (as in do a test) many cheapos are clones of the Chinese device :0
Also before you buy ask the seller for firmware as they are well hidden...
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USB C Question - For AUS Variant

A questions for any Australians out there , or anyone else that has the answer.
I have seen a lot of posts about the USB-C versions (2.0 vs 3.1 etc), I have also asked Samsung Aus directly and they cannot provide me an answer......(not sure why). Maybe they cant until the phone is released.
But i would like to know what version the Australian model will have......2.0 or 3.1?
This is the model number that comes up on my order; SM-N930FZKAXSA

longsville said:
A questions for any Australians out there , or anyone else that has the answer.
I have seen a lot of posts about the USB-C versions (2.0 vs 3.1 etc), I have also asked Samsung Aus directly and they cannot provide me an answer......(not sure why). Maybe they cant until the phone is released.
But i would like to know what version the Australian model will have......2.0 or 3.1?
This is the model number that comes up on my order; SM-N930FZKAXSA
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As far as I'm aware all the Galaxy Note 7's have USB-C 3.1
Actually, disregard that... I just had a look around, apparently it varies from one chipset to the next. I'm guessing the Qualcomm Snapdragon models may have 3.1 and Australian Exynos models 2.0, but not 100% sure.

valamer said:
As far as I'm aware all the Galaxy Note 7's have USB-C 3.1
Actually, disregard that... I just had a look around, apparently it varies from one chipset to the next. I'm guessing the Qualcomm Snapdragon models may have 3.1 and Australian Exynos models 2.0, but not 100% sure.
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See, i thought they were all the same until i started digging around as well. Now im confused.
It would be nice to think that being the latest unit it would have 3.1, but i guess it depends on the chip handling it......and in saying that, dont the Exynos chips run better than SD? Im not tech savvy with that so i could be completely wrong in my thought process.

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See, i thought they were all the same until i started digging around as well. Now im confused.
It would be nice to think that being the latest unit it would have 3.1, but i guess it depends on the chip handling it......and in saying that, dont the Exynos chips run better than SD? Im not tech savvy with that so i could be completely wrong in my thought process.
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They are both very close in performance, but in majority of videos comparing the Exynos & SD variants of the Galaxy S7 the Exynos comes out as the better performer, although I did see one video that the SD variant won, so not sure what was going on there. The bigger difference it seems is that Qualcomm releases always up to date source code which is needed to get all components of their platform working on AOSP, Samsung does not, so many people tend to like the SDs more for this reason. But in the US the bootloaders are locked down by the phone carriers so they can't modify the software on them anyway.

So is proper Nougat support is out the window...?

According to this article, Android 7.0 is dropping support for the Snapdragon 800 chip and the Adreno 330 GPU, the latter of which we unfortunately share in our 801 chip. Depending on the wording I'm not sure if this means the chipsets are "unsupported" or "will not work" on 7.0... In any case, if Qualcomm won't make new drivers for 7.0 then that means even if a Nougat ROM came for us then it might not have things like Vulkan support or could be cripplingly buggy. Although that's not a crippling loss it does stink that this might be the end of the road for this phone... I've hardly had mine for two years.
Am I right about all of this or is there still hope for decent unofficial support?

Long story short, no nougat. Qualcomm isn't updating the graphics driver anymore. The m8 is end of life at this point anyways though... ?

Hoping my shiny M8 is not old already but, to be honest, I really haven't noticed much difference /improvement since KitKat. I think it's just nice to say I have the latest Android.
Nougat will just be another 'nice to have'
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Will OnePlus continue OP3 support??

After the release of the OP3T, OnePlus has decided to discontinue sales of the OP3 according to Android authority. http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-3-officially-discontinued-us-europe-729580/
Could this mean that sooner or later, they might drop the support of the OP3 due to how they have to work on updates for both phones? They have slightly different specs so that might mean they have to work on two different sets of updates right?

There is slight difference in OP3 and OP3T, basically in Soc. OP3T will obviously require different drivers etc and they definitely will not care for the older one. You know what, they have released 7 beta updated for OP3 but nothing worth noticeable is there in these updates except their try to push own bloatware. Some of the OEM have updated their devices to nougat but not Oneplus. If LG can make their device updated to nougat out of the box then why not Oneplus. If they release nougat for OP3 than it will have negative impact on sale of OP3T which they never let happen. They will be updating OP3T to nougat and OP3 will get it after few months

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There is slight difference in OP3 and OP3T, basically in Soc. OP3T will obviously require different drivers etc and they definitely will not care for the older one. You know what, they have released 7 beta updated for OP3 but nothing worth noticeable is there in these updates except their try to push own bloatware. Some of the OEM have updated their devices to nougat but not Oneplus. If LG can make their device updated to nougat out of the box then why not Oneplus. If they release nougat for OP3 than it will have negative impact on sale of OP3T which they never let happen. They will be updating OP3T to nougat and OP3 will get it after few months
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Both devices get Nougat this year. According to their stream updates will be brought out sameoutaniously. Also the OP2 and OPx will get Nougat but not this year.

Demian3112 said:
Both devices get Nougat this year. According to their stream updates will be brought out simultaneously. Also the OP2 and OPx will get Nougat but not this year.
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The OPX will not get official Nougat as the 801 doesn't pass Google's certification as Qualcomm is not updating the drivers to support OpenGL ES 3.1.

quite disappointed on how quickly OP decided to destroy its great public image made after release of OP3...

lel, what did you guys expect from "LYING CARL" ? You can't trust a single word this guy says.

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lel, what did you guys expect from "LYING CARL" ? You can't trust a single word this guy says.
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Absolutely true

Don't speculate. Wait and see.
OP are vastly smaller than LG or Samsung, there isn't simply the quantity of devices out there as OP can't manufacture that many. So they're taking advantage of the newer hardware and quickly updating to the newest CPU, rather than continuing to manufacture devices on older hardware. This is why OP3 has been discontinued.
Software-wise, again, they don't have the development team to get Nougat out to us 'RIGHT NOW', but we've been promised it by the end of the year on both devices. I've been very pleased with the amount of updates and community builds so far.
OP4 will hit probably six months from now and that maybe an incremental update again, unless we see a snapdragon 830 or something!