I'm looking to buy a note 4 now that custom roms and perm root has been achieved. I already know to make sure the android version is no more then 5.1.1, but one thing was throwing me off in reading up on this.
Some guides mention to "make sure the CID starts with 15". Others don't. I may be entirely wrong here, because I don't know what CID stands for, or what it is, but I'm getting the impression that CID 15 is a software number for the developers model of the phone. I've also read it's possible to convert the note 4 into thinking it is a developers model of the phone. So that would mean I don't need to worry about buying a model that's already CID 15, because it will be taken care of later. Is this correct?
My questions are....
How do I prevent my phone from starting up, and immediately downloading 6.0 or 6.1 or whatever the latest update is, before I root? How do I block those updates without root?
Whats the best newb friendly guide on this forum for going from day 1 bought, to custom roms and perm root? Basically an "everything at once" guide. Assuming I don't even have the phone yet, don't have temp root, haven't changed the CID yet, ect ect ect. I want to start reading these guides so I can get myself familiar with the process.
I read either here or on reddit that kingroot puts spyware on the phone. Is this true?
Anyone know a good place to buy the note 4? I'd be looking for the verizon version.
Anything I should know that I don't even know to ask about? My last (current) phone is on it's dieing legs. It's an HTC thunderbolt from 2011. I was running android 2.2. Yes, I know. It's old. I haven't experienced a post 2.2 android OS, so this is going to be basically 5 years worth of "HOLY **** LOOK WHAT THEY ADDED!!!" moment for me.
What are the differences between different model numbers. I keep seeing (SM-N910V) in the videos I've been watching, but I have no context as to if that's good, or bad, or what it means.
Will this fast charging thing work with ROMS?
I'm not an expert, but I've successfully rooted and installed cm13. here's a few things I've learned.
doesn't matter if you get a phone that's already on marshmallow, you can downgrade back to 5.1.1 (hybrid firmware, probably, if you're gonna install cyanogenmod). I haven't seen anyone having a phone that's unrootable because of the CID. I think kingroot may leave some sort of Spyware, but it's easily removed.... and anyway, kingroot didn't work for me, I had to use kingoroot... which more people seem to have success with. in terms of the easiest tutorial, that's hard to say, they're all different and unnecessarily overcomplicated. if you search my recent posts, I have told a couple people a much more simplified way to obtain root and install cm13...another user helped me out when I was having trouble with one of the super long tutorials, and helped show me that it doesn't need to be nearly so complicated. let me know if you have trouble finding that info. the process is definitely a pain in the ass, but it is well worth it. good luck.
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side note, if you're coming from Android 2.2 you're going to be absolutely blown away. so many awesome improvements since then.
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Hey guys,
after looking around the interwebz for a few days, this looks like one of the best spots to sit on and learn from. I have had my evo from launch and it is fully updated. Recently, i have heard much talk about full rooting and froyo coming soon officially.
I am new to "hacking" phones. not sure if thats the correct word but i "hack" or have fun (not the bad way) on computers and used to on xbox360.
could someone please point me in the right direction?
The only reason i ask this is because i have seen several rooting tutorials that are not identical so i was curious if one is better than the others.
This is not a q and a forum. There is one butter this is not it. I suggest reading a lot more and then formulating a real question. There isn't a best method that is why there is more then one.
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Do toastcfh root part 1 then unlock nand part 2. this is the best and official way to root in my opinion. And its really not that hard. But I think theres a few new ones floating around that are even easier! My honest opinion is to just read, and then read some more. And when your done reading, read even more! Youll be sooo surprised how much you will learn in this forum!
weezymagic said:
Hey guys,
after looking around the interwebz for a few days, this looks like one of the best spots to sit on and learn from. I have had my evo from launch and it is fully updated. Recently, i have heard much talk about full rooting and froyo coming soon officially.
I am new to "hacking" phones. not sure if thats the correct word but i "hack" or have fun (not the bad way) on computers and used to on xbox360.
could someone please point me in the right direction?
The only reason i ask this is because i have seen several rooting tutorials that are not identical so i was curious if one is better than the others.
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if you've appplied the latest OTA update (1.47.651.1), then you have to wait for dev. to come up with ways to unlock it (root). if you did not update the OTA then using toast method 1 and 2 would work fine....
If you found this site, you are already pointed in the right direction.
Don't take personally, since obvisouly I don't know you, but if you can't follow the guides here you really should not mess with your phone.
I do understand (90% sure) most of the terms and processes for rooting. I do have the latest update (1.47.651.1). So i guess ill have to wait until another root for this version.
Is there a certain time gap between update and root for current update that i should wait to look for. i know people come up with the root so its not exact time gap. im more asking does it usually take closer to a week or like a month. just so i can keep it in the back of my head
Ok. this is the second Evo i got. 2 days ago i got my first one. tried rooting it. got lost n eveyrthing. camera stopped working idk y, took it bak, swapped me to a new one. just got the new one today, running 2.2 obviously.
Now can someone post up exactly which ones i should do to root and can someone point me in the right direction to put the Cyanogenmod 6.1 experimental on?
As much as I can't stand the people who say, "Use the Search Tool!" and then brush you off, I've got to say that after reading your post I can somewhat sympathize with them.
Your question(s) have been answered ad nauseum across these boards and a very quick search could provide the resources you are looking for far quicker than it takes to write a post and wait for an answer. I'm sure you can imagine what these boards would look like if every one of the thousands of people with the same questions as you simply posted them as you did rather than searching and reading. As the single best source for all things android and possibly the largest, it would be 90% posts just like yours and 10% of everything else. It is simply impossible and unreasonable to expect anything different.
But, I digress...
In regards to rooting the EVO... Again, it would be redundant for me or anyone else for that matter to give you step by step instructions since the answers are freely and easily available in the "Android Development" section of the EVO subforum. That said, here are two great places to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
The above two links will take you directly to the two threads representing the two different root methods. In sum, the top one is the easiest and the second one is more involved but the end result as far as the phone is concerned is identical. Lots of folks recommend the harder method simply because of the value in what you learn in the process. That said, between those two threads I think you will find all the answers you are looking for and more.
honestly, in the past 5 minutes on the first 2 pages i have seen about 3 different threads titled [GUIDE] and something to do with rooting the evo... i dont think finding a guide should be too difficult for anybody
I'm wondering what the excuse is going to be on next exchange
Make sure you read it through this time.
I purchased my EVO last week and finally found the courage to follow the thread "[TOOL][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02 S-OFF" (created by zikronix). By carefully reading the thread's instructions and all of the Q&A's that followed, I successfully rooted my phone with little difficulty. I would caution, however, that flashing your WIMAX radio can result in your EVO not being able to pick up a 4G signal.
I could be doing something wrong or perhaps I simply haven't yet found an easy fix. All I know is that I'm enjoying my rooted EVO. As for the lost 4G capabilities, I'm not digging that so much. If I'd been aware of the risk of ruining my WIMAX radio, then I probably would have done a bit more research (after days and days of the research that I'd already done) in order to avoid the issue.
I'm not the only person who's encountered the broken WIMAX issue. A number of people have complained about it and there doesn't appear to be any reliable fix.
My intent is not to scare you away from rooting your EVO. I only wish to serve as a cautionary tale.
yea id say a bigger issue is that there may be too many guides... 2 clicks to root, 1 click to root, etc... its a little redundant
djtoonjr said:
Ok. this is the second Evo i got. 2 days ago i got my first one. tried rooting it. got lost n eveyrthing. camera stopped working idk y, took it bak, swapped me to a new one. just got the new one today, running 2.2 obviously.
Now can someone post up exactly which ones i should do to root and can someone point me in the right direction to put the Cyanogenmod 6.1 experimental on?
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Also, you most likely have HW004. That is why your camera is NOT working after you flash any custom rom.
matthewdavisnelson said:
I purchased my EVO last week and finally found the courage to follow the thread "[TOOL][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02 S-OFF" (created by zikronix). By carefully reading the thread's instructions and all of the Q&A's that followed, I successfully rooted my phone with little difficulty. I would caution, however, that flashing your WIMAX radio can result in your EVO not being able to pick up a 4G signal.
I could be doing something wrong or perhaps I simply haven't yet found an easy fix. All I know is that I'm enjoying my rooted EVO. As for the lost 4G capabilities, I'm not digging that so much. If I'd been aware of the risk of ruining my WIMAX radio, then I probably would have done a bit more research (after days and days of the research that I'd already done) in order to avoid the issue.
I'm not the only person who's encountered the broken WIMAX issue. A number of people have complained about it and there doesn't appear to be any reliable fix.
My intent is not to scare you away from rooting your EVO. I only wish to serve as a cautionary tale.
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Rooting DOESN'T make your lose your RSA key.
DJ_Bizarro said:
yea id say a bigger issue is that there may be too many guides... 2 clicks to root, 1 click to root, etc... its a little redundant
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lol THANK YOU! one says intall HTC sync, other says uninstall it, one says use unrevoked 3.21, other says it doesnt work on 2.2. cmon yo. lol make a simple guide line like, (For New Evos(2.2))(Manually Root Process). if its automated, it either works on Win7 or Xp or Mac, or u just dont have Java Version or .net version. etc. i liked it when u just used CMD for eveyrthing. manually inputting the codes and stuff. dat seemd to never fail.
but on the other people who helped. thanks alot. i know too manyy guides get confusing, and if u recommened it, ill take it and give a wack at it. i have hardware version 003 btw to the other guy and never even got to root, neither the less flash a room lol.
thanks again!
okolowicz said:
As much as I can't stand the people who say, "Use the Search Tool!" and then brush you off, I've got to say that after reading your post I can somewhat sympathize with them.
Your question(s) have been answered ad nauseum across these boards and a very quick search could provide the resources you are looking for far quicker than it takes to write a post and wait for an answer. I'm sure you can imagine what these boards would look like if every one of the thousands of people with the same questions as you simply posted them as you did rather than searching and reading. As the single best source for all things android and possibly the largest, it would be 90% posts just like yours and 10% of everything else. It is simply impossible and unreasonable to expect anything different.
But, I digress...
In regards to rooting the EVO... Again, it would be redundant for me or anyone else for that matter to give you step by step instructions since the answers are freely and easily available in the "Android Development" section of the EVO subforum. That said, here are two great places to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
The above two links will take you directly to the two threads representing the two different root methods. In sum, the top one is the easiest and the second one is more involved but the end result as far as the phone is concerned is identical. Lots of folks recommend the harder method simply because of the value in what you learn in the process. That said, between those two threads I think you will find all the answers you are looking for and more.
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This was the best possible response to this thread that anyone could have given.
i have hardware version 003 btw to the other guy and never even got to root, neither the less flash a room lol.
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The reason why there are multiple root guides is because they all came out at different times for different software versions. Sure there are a bunch for 2.2 but there have already been a couple updates since we got Froyo. You need to check your software version and use the root method that works for it. I'm not on a Sense ROM but I'm pretty sure the path to check is menu > settings > about phone > software information. Considering that you have a new 003 you are probably on 3.29.651.5 and if that's the case I recommend using the Unrevoked 3.21 method to root.
The reason why there are multiple root guides is because they all came out at different times for different software versions. Sure there are a bunch for 2.2 but there have already been a couple updates since we got Froyo. You need to check your software version and use the root method that works for it. I'm not on a Sense ROM but I'm pretty sure the path to check is menu > settings > about phone > software information. Considering that you have a new 003 you are probably on 3.29.651.5 and if that's the case I recommend using the Unrevoked 3.21 method to root.
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3.30.651.2 to be exact. anyone on this thread, if it dont work to root, or whatever, please lemme know.
Ok, so I was one of the lucky few with a gen2 device that was not getting the ICS update. I tried to scan for the update probably 50 times yesterday with no luck. After seeing that others where having the same problem I got frustrated, I flashed the update Zeronull posted in the developers forums. Worked great.
My question is now what exactly is to be gained from the whole process of rooting/unlocking/loading CM9, and some custom roms. I am not new to hacking hardware/software, but I am fairly new to android so I don't really understand what I am gaining from the gamble.
My tab is mainly a family device so there is some added risk with my 4 year old, and wife having root access to my tab. Not sure that is a great idea or not. So once I decide if I want/need CM9 how secure is it from the rest of the family bricking it after the fact?
The only thing in the developers side that really catches my eye is cossix swap mod. I am surprised no one has rolled that into a rom yet. Anyways, if that is all I am really looking to gain is the CM9 path worth it for me?
Basically after re-reading this I am just fairly clueless about CM9. Can anyone with some experience clue a brother in? What is it exactly that I am missing?
Thanks,
I hate to bump my on post, but I was hoping to get a few opinions on this before I let it die.
Just wanted to make sure it is rootable before I buy. Also, is the rooting process as simple as clicking a button (Like KingRoot/Towelroot) or is it more complex? I want to be crystal clear before I buy the tablet.
Did you even attempt to look around before posting this?? A quick glance in Android Development would have answered your question in a few seconds.
brando56894 said:
Did you even attempt to look around before posting this?? A quick glance in Android Development would have answered your question in a few seconds.
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Unfortunately, I'm no Android expert. In fact, I've never had an android device before; this will be my first.
I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-install-custom-t3307183
I wasn't able to make too much sense out of it, besides the fact that it's complicated. I just want a straightforward answer; is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
ir0r0 said:
Unfortunately, I'm no Android expert. In fact, I've never had an android device before; this will be my first.
I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-install-custom-t3307183
I wasn't able to make too much sense out of it, besides the fact that it's complicated. I just want a straightforward answer; is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
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Then why do you want to root? You kinda need to be able to understand what you're doing regardless.
But anyway look at the toolkit in original dev section
ir0r0 said:
is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
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Yes.
Does it make sense for you to root your tablet?
No.
ir0r0 said:
Just wanted to make sure it is rootable before I buy. Also, is the rooting process as simple as clicking a button (Like KingRoot/Towelroot) or is it more complex? I want to be crystal clear before I buy the tablet.
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I have rooted every android device I have ever owned a bout a dozen going back 4-5 years now i guess.
not as difficult as my Oneplus 2 but not a cake walk either.
I wouldn't recommend this device for rooting if you have never done it before.
parakleet said:
I have rooted every android device I have ever owned a bout a dozen going back 4-5 years now i guess.
not as difficult as my Oneplus 2 but not a cake walk either.
I wouldn't recommend this device for rooting if you have never done it before.
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Bottomline is it doable by someone experienced in iOS jailbreaking?
What is the issue when we already have root? Follow the instructions in the post and you'll have no problems.
ir0r0 said:
Unfortunately, I'm no Android expert. In fact, I've never had an android device before; this will be my first.
I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-install-custom-t3307183
I wasn't able to make too much sense out of it, besides the fact that it's complicated. I just want a straightforward answer; is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
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We we're all beginners once but laziness is not an acceptable excuse. If you would have even glanced an inch down from General on the Pixel C section of the XDA website you would have clearly seen two out of the only three threads in Android Development talk about root, if you would have looked at the very first thread (Xceed kernel) you would have clearly seen that it IS rootable and how to go about doing it. Also if you even glanced at Original Android Development and took a look at MSkip's thread about his toolkit it is a simple utility that allows you to unlock and root (not sure if he added this in yet) your device with the press of a button. Hell you could have even googled "pixel c root" and been shown various pages that would say that it is rootable. How much more obvious do you want it to be?
Your last sentence is ridiculous, that's like saying "Can I transplant a person's heart without knowing a single thing about medicine?" The answer is yes, but you'll most likely screw something up then come crying to us to fix it for you when your $500 tablet is dead. You seem to know absolutely nothing about Android, yet you know what rooting is (do you actually know what it means, or is it just a term you learned?), if you want to mess around with Android and get your feet wet with rooting and modding, get a Nexus device, they're a lot harder (neigh impossible) to brick. There is very little development for ANY tablet, and this is an especially odd one since it was originally meant to be a ChromeOS device, but at the last second they decided to throw Android on it instead so the bootloader is completely different than your standard Android device, which means the rooting process is different than any other Android device. Rooting and modding Android devices is not a simple "one and done" thing like jailbreaking an iPhone is (I did it years ago to an ex's iPhone 4 and actually found it far more complicated than unlocking a Nexus device, other devices are a different story). You actually have to know what you're doing and how to fix it in the event that something doesn't work correctly. I have rooted friends phones before when they asked me to and had no idea what to do when I gave it back to them so every time something went goofy they would come running to me to fix it for them, then blame me when something doesn't work the way they expected it to.
Read up on how to unlock a Nexus device (It literally takes about 30 seconds and three words you have to type), then how to flash a recovery image (once again, only 4 words and another 30 seconds). Sorry for sounding like an asshole but a lot of us here don't tolerate helpless users and if you keep asking questions like this where there are obvious answers you continually get this type of response. It would be more understandable if this forum section was overloaded with tons of threads and the information buried deep within a 50 page thread in one of the sub sections (I've been guilty of that and I've been here for years), but once again, there are literally like 3 threads in the development sections and the info is in the first page of the first thread.
edit: I just looked at the link you posted and if you can't follow a simple step by step instruction manual which provides you with literally everything you need, don't even attempt it because you obviously have no clue what you're doing and I'm going to assume you're not a techy person because that's actually pretty simple. You should have been here a month ago when we had partially broken root access, you would have been scared to death! Try rooting the old HTC Rezound for Verizon which required a hardware mod, or try to root a Samsung Galaxy device without tripping Knox, or getting rid of it completely, then restoring it to a factory state and make it look like Knox was never removed. If you can't press a few buttons on your device to enable dev mode, then type a few commands to unlock the bootloader you're going to be completely lost later on when it comes to flashing partitions and flashing and learning about kernels. Get the Pixel C, it's a great device, root doesn't add that much functionality for now, but I wouldn't suggest even attempting to root it because you clearly lack the desire to learn anything about the rooting process and just want to do it so you can say "I rooted my Pixel C! Now what do I do with it?" I've seen tons of these types of posts, which makes the user look dumb because they don't even know why they did it in the first place, they just knew it was something "cool" to do.
Welcome to XDA
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brando56894 said:
We we're all beginners once but laziness is not an acceptable excuse. If you would have even glanced an inch down from General on the Pixel C section of the XDA website you would have clearly seen two out of the only three threads in Android Development talk about root, if you would have looked at the very first thread (Xceed kernel) you would have clearly seen that it IS rootable and how to go about doing it. Also if you even glanced at Original Android Development and took a look at MSkip's thread about his toolkit it is a simple utility that allows you to unlock and root (not sure if he added this in yet) your device with the press of a button. Hell you could have even googled "pixel c root" and been shown various pages that would say that it is rootable. How much more obvious do you want it to be?
Your last sentence is ridiculous, that's like saying "Can I transplant a person's heart without knowing a single thing about medicine?" The answer is yes, but you'll most likely screw something up then come crying to us to fix it for you when your $500 tablet is dead. You seem to know absolutely nothing about Android, yet you know what rooting is (do you actually know what it means, or is it just a term you learned?), if you want to mess around with Android and get your feet wet with rooting and modding, get a Nexus device, they're a lot harder (neigh impossible) to brick. There is very little development for ANY tablet, and this is an especially odd one since it was originally meant to be a ChromeOS device, but at the last second they decided to throw Android on it instead so the bootloader is completely different than your standard Android device, which means the rooting process is different than any other Android device. Rooting and modding Android devices is not a simple "one and done" thing like jailbreaking an iPhone is (I did it years ago to an ex's iPhone 4 and actually found it far more complicated than unlocking a Nexus device, other devices are a different story). You actually have to know what you're doing and how to fix it in the event that something doesn't work correctly. I have rooted friends phones before when they asked me to and had no idea what to do when I gave it back to them so every time something went goofy they would come running to me to fix it for them, then blame me when something doesn't work the way they expected it to.
Read up on how to unlock a Nexus device (It literally takes about 30 seconds and three words you have to type), then how to flash a recovery image (once again, only 4 words and another 30 seconds). Sorry for sounding like an asshole but a lot of us here don't tolerate helpless users and if you keep asking questions like this where there are obvious answers you continually get this type of response. It would be more understandable if this forum section was overloaded with tons of threads and the information buried deep within a 50 page thread in one of the sub sections (I've been guilty of that and I've been here for years), but once again, there are literally like 3 threads in the development sections and the info is in the first page of the first thread.
edit: I just looked at the link you posted and if you can't follow a simple step by step instruction manual which provides you with literally everything you need, don't even attempt it because you obviously have no clue what you're doing and I'm going to assume you're not a techy person because that's actually pretty simple. You should have been here a month ago when we had partially broken root access, you would have been scared to death! Try rooting the old HTC Rezound for Verizon which required a hardware mod, or try to root a Samsung Galaxy device without tripping Knox, or getting rid of it completely, then restoring it to a factory state and make it look like Knox was never removed. If you can't press a few buttons on your device to enable dev mode, then type a few commands to unlock the bootloader you're going to be completely lost later on when it comes to flashing partitions and flashing and learning about kernels. Get the Pixel C, it's a great device, root doesn't add that much functionality for now, but I wouldn't suggest even attempting to root it because you clearly lack the desire to learn anything about the rooting process and just want to do it so you can say "I rooted my Pixel C! Now what do I do with it?" I've seen tons of these types of posts, which makes the user look dumb because they don't even know why they did it in the first place, they just knew it was something "cool" to do.
Welcome to XDA
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No offense taken. Thanks for the time though, I'll give it a think over.
You're welcome, if you need help with something that you can't find an answer to easily, we'll gladly help you, just don't expect any hand holding hahaha
So I apologize if the title is a little too long but I just wanted to let everybody know if are like me and you wanted to get on the new beta for Android 10 but you don't have an unlocked or way to unlock your phone I am here to tell you that there is indeed a way.
the nice thing is that this does not trip Knox in anyway. It also does not void your warranty so if you are interested and you don't understand some of the posts in the flashing sections or you're too afraid because you don't want to mess anything up let me know.
I would post how to do it on here but I don't want to post something that people have already figured out I was just stating that for me as an autistic guy who had a little bit of trouble understanding the flashing guides I'm telling you that after about six hours of reading and messing with my phone and also having high anxiety because I did not want to screw it up in any sort of way...
The proof is in the screenshots like I said if you want to know how to do it, comments on this post and I will make a YouTube video showing how to do it that way it's easy for anybody to follow.
I also want to add that none of the bugs are present in the build I'm using now... My games seem a lot faster my speech-to-text seems a lot more correct and honestly I'm really glad I tried this...
im not sure i follow... can't anyone do this now without any kind of hacking? i literally just got the s10+ today (us unlocked version). it took me only minutes to register for the beta program and then download the update ota. im on ui2 and android 10 now.
Link the video? Good for Verizon users???
LibertyMonger said:
Link the video? Good for Verizon users???
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if u need a video to get on 10 then i dunno what to say lol be on the right firmware to start then sideload the updates.. theres literally threads and websites all over the internet at this point
I find it interesting you are willing to post a bunch of paragraphs about what you did but refuse to post how? I've been on these forums a long time and if you can't say how you did it, why would we want to hear you did?
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elliwigy said:
if u need a video to get on 10 then i dunno what to say lol be on the right firmware to start then sideload the updates.. theres literally threads and websites all over the internet at this point
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So where are these instructions on how to update a vzw s10 plus to 10?
you flash the base firmware in odin then use the update zips to upgrade to 10.. its very simple.. its the same way its been dome on just abput all the betas including P a year ago