Just wanted to make sure it is rootable before I buy. Also, is the rooting process as simple as clicking a button (Like KingRoot/Towelroot) or is it more complex? I want to be crystal clear before I buy the tablet.
Did you even attempt to look around before posting this?? A quick glance in Android Development would have answered your question in a few seconds.
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Did you even attempt to look around before posting this?? A quick glance in Android Development would have answered your question in a few seconds.
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Unfortunately, I'm no Android expert. In fact, I've never had an android device before; this will be my first.
I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-install-custom-t3307183
I wasn't able to make too much sense out of it, besides the fact that it's complicated. I just want a straightforward answer; is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
ir0r0 said:
Unfortunately, I'm no Android expert. In fact, I've never had an android device before; this will be my first.
I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-install-custom-t3307183
I wasn't able to make too much sense out of it, besides the fact that it's complicated. I just want a straightforward answer; is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
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Then why do you want to root? You kinda need to be able to understand what you're doing regardless.
But anyway look at the toolkit in original dev section
ir0r0 said:
is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
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Yes.
Does it make sense for you to root your tablet?
No.
ir0r0 said:
Just wanted to make sure it is rootable before I buy. Also, is the rooting process as simple as clicking a button (Like KingRoot/Towelroot) or is it more complex? I want to be crystal clear before I buy the tablet.
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I have rooted every android device I have ever owned a bout a dozen going back 4-5 years now i guess.
not as difficult as my Oneplus 2 but not a cake walk either.
I wouldn't recommend this device for rooting if you have never done it before.
parakleet said:
I have rooted every android device I have ever owned a bout a dozen going back 4-5 years now i guess.
not as difficult as my Oneplus 2 but not a cake walk either.
I wouldn't recommend this device for rooting if you have never done it before.
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Bottomline is it doable by someone experienced in iOS jailbreaking?
What is the issue when we already have root? Follow the instructions in the post and you'll have no problems.
ir0r0 said:
Unfortunately, I'm no Android expert. In fact, I've never had an android device before; this will be my first.
I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-install-custom-t3307183
I wasn't able to make too much sense out of it, besides the fact that it's complicated. I just want a straightforward answer; is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
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We we're all beginners once but laziness is not an acceptable excuse. If you would have even glanced an inch down from General on the Pixel C section of the XDA website you would have clearly seen two out of the only three threads in Android Development talk about root, if you would have looked at the very first thread (Xceed kernel) you would have clearly seen that it IS rootable and how to go about doing it. Also if you even glanced at Original Android Development and took a look at MSkip's thread about his toolkit it is a simple utility that allows you to unlock and root (not sure if he added this in yet) your device with the press of a button. Hell you could have even googled "pixel c root" and been shown various pages that would say that it is rootable. How much more obvious do you want it to be?
Your last sentence is ridiculous, that's like saying "Can I transplant a person's heart without knowing a single thing about medicine?" The answer is yes, but you'll most likely screw something up then come crying to us to fix it for you when your $500 tablet is dead. You seem to know absolutely nothing about Android, yet you know what rooting is (do you actually know what it means, or is it just a term you learned?), if you want to mess around with Android and get your feet wet with rooting and modding, get a Nexus device, they're a lot harder (neigh impossible) to brick. There is very little development for ANY tablet, and this is an especially odd one since it was originally meant to be a ChromeOS device, but at the last second they decided to throw Android on it instead so the bootloader is completely different than your standard Android device, which means the rooting process is different than any other Android device. Rooting and modding Android devices is not a simple "one and done" thing like jailbreaking an iPhone is (I did it years ago to an ex's iPhone 4 and actually found it far more complicated than unlocking a Nexus device, other devices are a different story). You actually have to know what you're doing and how to fix it in the event that something doesn't work correctly. I have rooted friends phones before when they asked me to and had no idea what to do when I gave it back to them so every time something went goofy they would come running to me to fix it for them, then blame me when something doesn't work the way they expected it to.
Read up on how to unlock a Nexus device (It literally takes about 30 seconds and three words you have to type), then how to flash a recovery image (once again, only 4 words and another 30 seconds). Sorry for sounding like an asshole but a lot of us here don't tolerate helpless users and if you keep asking questions like this where there are obvious answers you continually get this type of response. It would be more understandable if this forum section was overloaded with tons of threads and the information buried deep within a 50 page thread in one of the sub sections (I've been guilty of that and I've been here for years), but once again, there are literally like 3 threads in the development sections and the info is in the first page of the first thread.
edit: I just looked at the link you posted and if you can't follow a simple step by step instruction manual which provides you with literally everything you need, don't even attempt it because you obviously have no clue what you're doing and I'm going to assume you're not a techy person because that's actually pretty simple. You should have been here a month ago when we had partially broken root access, you would have been scared to death! Try rooting the old HTC Rezound for Verizon which required a hardware mod, or try to root a Samsung Galaxy device without tripping Knox, or getting rid of it completely, then restoring it to a factory state and make it look like Knox was never removed. If you can't press a few buttons on your device to enable dev mode, then type a few commands to unlock the bootloader you're going to be completely lost later on when it comes to flashing partitions and flashing and learning about kernels. Get the Pixel C, it's a great device, root doesn't add that much functionality for now, but I wouldn't suggest even attempting to root it because you clearly lack the desire to learn anything about the rooting process and just want to do it so you can say "I rooted my Pixel C! Now what do I do with it?" I've seen tons of these types of posts, which makes the user look dumb because they don't even know why they did it in the first place, they just knew it was something "cool" to do.
Welcome to XDA
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brando56894 said:
We we're all beginners once but laziness is not an acceptable excuse. If you would have even glanced an inch down from General on the Pixel C section of the XDA website you would have clearly seen two out of the only three threads in Android Development talk about root, if you would have looked at the very first thread (Xceed kernel) you would have clearly seen that it IS rootable and how to go about doing it. Also if you even glanced at Original Android Development and took a look at MSkip's thread about his toolkit it is a simple utility that allows you to unlock and root (not sure if he added this in yet) your device with the press of a button. Hell you could have even googled "pixel c root" and been shown various pages that would say that it is rootable. How much more obvious do you want it to be?
Your last sentence is ridiculous, that's like saying "Can I transplant a person's heart without knowing a single thing about medicine?" The answer is yes, but you'll most likely screw something up then come crying to us to fix it for you when your $500 tablet is dead. You seem to know absolutely nothing about Android, yet you know what rooting is (do you actually know what it means, or is it just a term you learned?), if you want to mess around with Android and get your feet wet with rooting and modding, get a Nexus device, they're a lot harder (neigh impossible) to brick. There is very little development for ANY tablet, and this is an especially odd one since it was originally meant to be a ChromeOS device, but at the last second they decided to throw Android on it instead so the bootloader is completely different than your standard Android device, which means the rooting process is different than any other Android device. Rooting and modding Android devices is not a simple "one and done" thing like jailbreaking an iPhone is (I did it years ago to an ex's iPhone 4 and actually found it far more complicated than unlocking a Nexus device, other devices are a different story). You actually have to know what you're doing and how to fix it in the event that something doesn't work correctly. I have rooted friends phones before when they asked me to and had no idea what to do when I gave it back to them so every time something went goofy they would come running to me to fix it for them, then blame me when something doesn't work the way they expected it to.
Read up on how to unlock a Nexus device (It literally takes about 30 seconds and three words you have to type), then how to flash a recovery image (once again, only 4 words and another 30 seconds). Sorry for sounding like an asshole but a lot of us here don't tolerate helpless users and if you keep asking questions like this where there are obvious answers you continually get this type of response. It would be more understandable if this forum section was overloaded with tons of threads and the information buried deep within a 50 page thread in one of the sub sections (I've been guilty of that and I've been here for years), but once again, there are literally like 3 threads in the development sections and the info is in the first page of the first thread.
edit: I just looked at the link you posted and if you can't follow a simple step by step instruction manual which provides you with literally everything you need, don't even attempt it because you obviously have no clue what you're doing and I'm going to assume you're not a techy person because that's actually pretty simple. You should have been here a month ago when we had partially broken root access, you would have been scared to death! Try rooting the old HTC Rezound for Verizon which required a hardware mod, or try to root a Samsung Galaxy device without tripping Knox, or getting rid of it completely, then restoring it to a factory state and make it look like Knox was never removed. If you can't press a few buttons on your device to enable dev mode, then type a few commands to unlock the bootloader you're going to be completely lost later on when it comes to flashing partitions and flashing and learning about kernels. Get the Pixel C, it's a great device, root doesn't add that much functionality for now, but I wouldn't suggest even attempting to root it because you clearly lack the desire to learn anything about the rooting process and just want to do it so you can say "I rooted my Pixel C! Now what do I do with it?" I've seen tons of these types of posts, which makes the user look dumb because they don't even know why they did it in the first place, they just knew it was something "cool" to do.
Welcome to XDA
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No offense taken. Thanks for the time though, I'll give it a think over.
You're welcome, if you need help with something that you can't find an answer to easily, we'll gladly help you, just don't expect any hand holding hahaha
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so im following this guide rite here:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/08/16/how-to-root-the-htc-mytouch-slide-exploid-method/
and basically i have everything done
the only problem is that instead of having a "$" show up
a "#" shows up
What the hell? It seems like suddenly, in the past couple of days, everyone is trying to root their slide with old methods.
The ONLY working method as of now is nbetcher's exploid method. Look through the forum and you'll find it.
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everyone I know who tried their guide, had issues, including me. just use on of the guides here on xda. if you don't believe me, scroll to the bottom of one of the two unlockr pages on rooting this phone, and read the comments. its people whining.
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migueltherocker said:
What the hell? It seems like suddenly, in the past couple of days, everyone is trying to root their slide with old methods.
The ONLY working method as of now is nbetcher's exploid method. Look through the forum and you'll find it.
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tried using a few of the guides on here too
same issue
point me in the direction to a good guide?
JDV28 said:
everyone I know who tried their guide, had issues, including me. just use on of the guides here on xda. if you don't believe me, scroll to the bottom of one of the two unlockr pages on rooting this phone, and read the comments. its people whining.
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You know why that is? Because I didn't make the guides for 5 year olds. I'm sorry, but if you don't understand some implied things (like having to install the Android SDK and make sure your paths to its tools directory are correctly setup, or having the files extracted in the right place when you 'adb push', not to mention typing things correctly) then you probably don't deserve to have a rooted phone. My guide is not intended to allow your 5 year-old child root your phone, it is intended for people who have enough knowledge to understand the concept to complete the root process and potentially learn more.
I'm sure everyone except the elitists will think that I'm an arrogant a*s hole. Truth is you won't learn anything if you don't figure things out for yourself. Plus some people root so they can Wifi tether - a practice that if you do not have enough understanding of technology to root your own phone could lead to you abusing the carrier's network.
Finally, we're here in this forum as developers in order to collaborate together amongst one another about constructing ROMs, developing software, learning, and unlocking the phone's full potential. What we're not here for is: troubleshooting users' phones, making a statement against T-Mobile/HTC by helping every user root their phone, or ridding the world of hunger.
Over the past couple months I have been (very) slowly working on a detailed guide, but the problem is that no matter how simple I make it people will still manage to fsck it up. Making a perfect guide is a long and difficult task. Ideally though we won't need it soon since AlphaRev will be coming out with a utility to S-OFF automatically.
do you have an ETA on that?
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do you have an ETA on that?
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The topic is stickied - I guess that shows that no one looks at sticky posts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798168
nbetcher said:
You know why that is? Because I didn't make the guides for 5 year olds. I'm sorry, but if you don't understand some implied things (like having to install the Android SDK and make sure your paths to its tools directory are correctly setup, or having the files extracted in the right place when you 'adb push', not to mention typing things correctly) then you probably don't deserve to have a rooted phone. My guide is not intended to allow your 5 year-old child root your phone, it is intended for people who have enough knowledge to understand the concept to complete the root process and potentially learn more.
I'm sure everyone except the elitists will think that I'm an arrogant a*s hole. Truth is you won't learn anything if you don't figure things out for yourself. Plus some people root so they can Wifi tether - a practice that if you do not have enough understanding of technology to root your own phone could lead to you abusing the carrier's network.
Finally, we're here in this forum as developers in order to collaborate together amongst one another about constructing ROMs, developing software, learning, and unlocking the phone's full potential. What we're not here for is: troubleshooting users' phones, making a statement against T-Mobile/HTC by helping every user root their phone, or ridding the world of hunger.
Over the past couple months I have been (very) slowly working on a detailed guide, but the problem is that no matter how simple I make it people will still manage to fsck it up. Making a perfect guide is a long and difficult task. Ideally though we won't need it soon since AlphaRev will be coming out with a utility to S-OFF automatically.
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This. 10char
Subu said:
so im following this guide rite here:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/08/16/how-to-root-the-htc-mytouch-slide-exploid-method/
and basically i have everything done
the only problem is that instead of having a "$" show up
a "#" shows up
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You might try reading the thread with the original slide root method in it. Eugene wrote it I believe -it will show you why the '#' is showing up. You'll be pissed you ever asked this question Though I'm not sure how you got it since that method, from what I've read, doesn't work.
Ok. this is the second Evo i got. 2 days ago i got my first one. tried rooting it. got lost n eveyrthing. camera stopped working idk y, took it bak, swapped me to a new one. just got the new one today, running 2.2 obviously.
Now can someone post up exactly which ones i should do to root and can someone point me in the right direction to put the Cyanogenmod 6.1 experimental on?
As much as I can't stand the people who say, "Use the Search Tool!" and then brush you off, I've got to say that after reading your post I can somewhat sympathize with them.
Your question(s) have been answered ad nauseum across these boards and a very quick search could provide the resources you are looking for far quicker than it takes to write a post and wait for an answer. I'm sure you can imagine what these boards would look like if every one of the thousands of people with the same questions as you simply posted them as you did rather than searching and reading. As the single best source for all things android and possibly the largest, it would be 90% posts just like yours and 10% of everything else. It is simply impossible and unreasonable to expect anything different.
But, I digress...
In regards to rooting the EVO... Again, it would be redundant for me or anyone else for that matter to give you step by step instructions since the answers are freely and easily available in the "Android Development" section of the EVO subforum. That said, here are two great places to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
The above two links will take you directly to the two threads representing the two different root methods. In sum, the top one is the easiest and the second one is more involved but the end result as far as the phone is concerned is identical. Lots of folks recommend the harder method simply because of the value in what you learn in the process. That said, between those two threads I think you will find all the answers you are looking for and more.
honestly, in the past 5 minutes on the first 2 pages i have seen about 3 different threads titled [GUIDE] and something to do with rooting the evo... i dont think finding a guide should be too difficult for anybody
I'm wondering what the excuse is going to be on next exchange
Make sure you read it through this time.
I purchased my EVO last week and finally found the courage to follow the thread "[TOOL][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02 S-OFF" (created by zikronix). By carefully reading the thread's instructions and all of the Q&A's that followed, I successfully rooted my phone with little difficulty. I would caution, however, that flashing your WIMAX radio can result in your EVO not being able to pick up a 4G signal.
I could be doing something wrong or perhaps I simply haven't yet found an easy fix. All I know is that I'm enjoying my rooted EVO. As for the lost 4G capabilities, I'm not digging that so much. If I'd been aware of the risk of ruining my WIMAX radio, then I probably would have done a bit more research (after days and days of the research that I'd already done) in order to avoid the issue.
I'm not the only person who's encountered the broken WIMAX issue. A number of people have complained about it and there doesn't appear to be any reliable fix.
My intent is not to scare you away from rooting your EVO. I only wish to serve as a cautionary tale.
yea id say a bigger issue is that there may be too many guides... 2 clicks to root, 1 click to root, etc... its a little redundant
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Ok. this is the second Evo i got. 2 days ago i got my first one. tried rooting it. got lost n eveyrthing. camera stopped working idk y, took it bak, swapped me to a new one. just got the new one today, running 2.2 obviously.
Now can someone post up exactly which ones i should do to root and can someone point me in the right direction to put the Cyanogenmod 6.1 experimental on?
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Also, you most likely have HW004. That is why your camera is NOT working after you flash any custom rom.
matthewdavisnelson said:
I purchased my EVO last week and finally found the courage to follow the thread "[TOOL][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02 S-OFF" (created by zikronix). By carefully reading the thread's instructions and all of the Q&A's that followed, I successfully rooted my phone with little difficulty. I would caution, however, that flashing your WIMAX radio can result in your EVO not being able to pick up a 4G signal.
I could be doing something wrong or perhaps I simply haven't yet found an easy fix. All I know is that I'm enjoying my rooted EVO. As for the lost 4G capabilities, I'm not digging that so much. If I'd been aware of the risk of ruining my WIMAX radio, then I probably would have done a bit more research (after days and days of the research that I'd already done) in order to avoid the issue.
I'm not the only person who's encountered the broken WIMAX issue. A number of people have complained about it and there doesn't appear to be any reliable fix.
My intent is not to scare you away from rooting your EVO. I only wish to serve as a cautionary tale.
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Rooting DOESN'T make your lose your RSA key.
DJ_Bizarro said:
yea id say a bigger issue is that there may be too many guides... 2 clicks to root, 1 click to root, etc... its a little redundant
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lol THANK YOU! one says intall HTC sync, other says uninstall it, one says use unrevoked 3.21, other says it doesnt work on 2.2. cmon yo. lol make a simple guide line like, (For New Evos(2.2))(Manually Root Process). if its automated, it either works on Win7 or Xp or Mac, or u just dont have Java Version or .net version. etc. i liked it when u just used CMD for eveyrthing. manually inputting the codes and stuff. dat seemd to never fail.
but on the other people who helped. thanks alot. i know too manyy guides get confusing, and if u recommened it, ill take it and give a wack at it. i have hardware version 003 btw to the other guy and never even got to root, neither the less flash a room lol.
thanks again!
okolowicz said:
As much as I can't stand the people who say, "Use the Search Tool!" and then brush you off, I've got to say that after reading your post I can somewhat sympathize with them.
Your question(s) have been answered ad nauseum across these boards and a very quick search could provide the resources you are looking for far quicker than it takes to write a post and wait for an answer. I'm sure you can imagine what these boards would look like if every one of the thousands of people with the same questions as you simply posted them as you did rather than searching and reading. As the single best source for all things android and possibly the largest, it would be 90% posts just like yours and 10% of everything else. It is simply impossible and unreasonable to expect anything different.
But, I digress...
In regards to rooting the EVO... Again, it would be redundant for me or anyone else for that matter to give you step by step instructions since the answers are freely and easily available in the "Android Development" section of the EVO subforum. That said, here are two great places to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
The above two links will take you directly to the two threads representing the two different root methods. In sum, the top one is the easiest and the second one is more involved but the end result as far as the phone is concerned is identical. Lots of folks recommend the harder method simply because of the value in what you learn in the process. That said, between those two threads I think you will find all the answers you are looking for and more.
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This was the best possible response to this thread that anyone could have given.
i have hardware version 003 btw to the other guy and never even got to root, neither the less flash a room lol.
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The reason why there are multiple root guides is because they all came out at different times for different software versions. Sure there are a bunch for 2.2 but there have already been a couple updates since we got Froyo. You need to check your software version and use the root method that works for it. I'm not on a Sense ROM but I'm pretty sure the path to check is menu > settings > about phone > software information. Considering that you have a new 003 you are probably on 3.29.651.5 and if that's the case I recommend using the Unrevoked 3.21 method to root.
The reason why there are multiple root guides is because they all came out at different times for different software versions. Sure there are a bunch for 2.2 but there have already been a couple updates since we got Froyo. You need to check your software version and use the root method that works for it. I'm not on a Sense ROM but I'm pretty sure the path to check is menu > settings > about phone > software information. Considering that you have a new 003 you are probably on 3.29.651.5 and if that's the case I recommend using the Unrevoked 3.21 method to root.
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3.30.651.2 to be exact. anyone on this thread, if it dont work to root, or whatever, please lemme know.
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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tiny4579 said:
What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
Wallex said:
No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
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Well, most people consider root a power, and with great power..... Anyways,this is a developer forum, aimed at developers. I don't have a problem teachinganyone anything (within the realm of my knowledge, of course), but I do have aproblem with those who want their hand held, and refuse to look on their own. Ican pretty much guarantee you, that if you don't learn anything, and wanteverything spelled out, that's all fine and dandy, till you have an issue. Orsomething else doesn't work right, and then you constantly ask questions on howto fix your phone when a little research and a little learning will preventmost of these issues in the first place.
kyphur said:
I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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Sorry about that. You're easiest bet is to use htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader, then flash a recovery through your now unlocked HBOOT, then flash aSuperuser.zip to gain root.
if you knew someone who could root it for you, that would be easiest. maybe you could pay someone to root your phone? you know what we say, only smart people now how to get stuff for free or cheap. and in the realm of 'hacking" what we are definitely doing is value adding to what we have.
but if you learn how to do it, you could be that person helping others!
btw, funny thing about that link-that is the one I used. i found it a little intimidating at first(and looked extensively for an easier way that I never found) but now that I;ve rooted 3 phones, its fairly accurate. unfortunately you do have to go through the steps. there aren;t any shortcuts but it works. and the good thing is that if anything actually goes wrong in the process, atleast you should know where and why and how to fix.
Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH
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You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
insomniac_lemon said:
You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
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FWIW, there was a version of Unrevoked that worked with certain versions of the Dinc's software (that's how I originally rooted my first Dinc), but recent OTA upgrades have made that method very unreliable. If you have HBOOT 1.07, there is no question that the best way to get root is using the guide, and yes, that guide the OP linked is a very good one. Follow it carefully and it will work, every time. You can even stop at step 3 and have a stock, rooted, s-on phone, without the complicated downgrade which is required to get s-off. Which is what the OP wanted, I believe.
Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
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LOL @ legible ENGLISH :good: Sometimes I feel the same way.
P.S. Broke out my old HTC INCRED 2. Think I may try rooting it. Got nothing to loose.
Keep the threads alive; -)
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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I assume that you have the fastboot files for the htc one x .
If not then please search on xda
Make sure u backup all your important data,contacts,etc
Step 1. Register on htcdev.com
Step 2. Unlocking the bootloader
Enable usb debugging on your phone
Power off your hox
Hold power button and volume down to get into bootloader
Select fastboot
Connect hox to ur pc using usb cable
Open command prompt
Go to your fastboot folder ex. cd c:\fastboot
type "fastboot oem get_identifier_token" without quotes
Copy the token code.. check on htcdev site for copying that token code
Submit your token code
Wait for an email from htc
After you get, download the Unlock_code.bin file from the email u received
Copy it to ur fastboot folder
In command prompt type "fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin" without quotes
On your hox u will be prompted with "Unlock bootloader?"
Choose yes using volume buttons and then press power button
This unlocks your bootloader.
Sry gtg, will post on how to root, after sometime..
Till then unlock your bootloader.
Is the phone branded? Is the phone evita or endeavoru? Check the bootloader
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There are lots of youtube video of the process.
It's really easy, if you follow them there is nothing dangerous that might happen.
Check this tool, it may make your life easier.
Good luck
Check the post by Hasoon in the stickies. Truly foolproof
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Craiglivesey94 said:
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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One thing to make absolutely clear is that there is absolutely never, ever an exact foolproof method. The rooting process is as simple as it can be made and yet many fools somehow manage to screw their devices.
You are looking for a guarantee, a process that is "undeniably going to work". You are NOT going to get one.
Skipping some questions...
Craiglivesey94 said:
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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You better be sure don't just assumed. Listen for Stefan0vic check your bootloader(hboot).
Craiglivesey94 said:
I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
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Because I'm not gonna spams if I'd do it correctly without problems. You better don't want to go through any exact noob proof methods believe me, else you'll most likely ended up with some bogus mistake/error accompany by panic and shout help me xda-ers...
Craiglivesey94 said:
... should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
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Since we're using official bootloader unlocked process not s-off, we're actually immuned to hard bricking our phone. Unharmful soft bricking happening sometimes, however 99% of human mistake or boot image did't flash properly. Assumed that you're not going to flashes any custom ROM thus you will most unlikely to face bootloop btw.
Craiglivesey94 said:
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
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Trickier parts. First let me explained how official OTA updates apply, it checks and verifying on many aspects to ensure integrity of the ROM. If you removed system apps, themed on it, altered framework files, you will fail to complete OTA update. Even you don't do somethings like I said, you will still lost root access after successfully apply though simple re-rooting resolve the problem.
To play safe, make sure you find a RUU for your phone (according to your phone's CID; edeavoru/evita does matter) with greater or same version number as your current. Else you might wanna to make yourself one immediately you unlokced your phone or look in the [Stock Nandroid Backups for Different CIDs] thread on this sub-forum. The reason to do that is so you can always fallback to original ROM state for an official OTA.
If the guides on this forum are not clear enough for you then you should not be attempting to do anything with your phone. There are a multitude of threads on here and 99% of them are aimed at the beginner and are as simple as they can be. If you cannot follow them then you haven't read enough. Please remember this is a Forum for developers and everyone else, including myself, is a guest here. No one is under any obligation to explain anything or provide guides of any kind, they do it because they want to. You are basically making a post directed at the people who have provided guides out of the goodness of their hearts and telling them that those guides are useless. That's not a very nice thing to do. And yes, this is another unnecessary thread
You have been clued
I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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Thanks for response, I was worried I wouldn't be getting the 4.2.2 update whenever it arrives.
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Nice! I will refer my friends to this every time I get the "what is rooting" question.
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Craiglivesey94 said:
I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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It is clear and it is foolproof. I'm no expert and I used the guides to which you are referring. The problem, which you don't seem to be able to understand, is that the people who are having problems have not read and understood everything before they proceed. And you have implied that the guides are no good, again. It is not mis-information, it is impatience. Read, read and read again, use the search button and read once more. Everything you ask has been answered over and over again and everyone is fed up of seeing the same questions multiple times a day. Have a look in almost any rom thread and you will see that devs and team members are repeating themselves constantly simply because people can't or won't use the search button and fail to read previous posts.
Pause a little and think how the author of a help post must feel when they read that their guide is being reported as incomplete or incorrect after spending countless hours making sure the information is correct.
Rest assured that all guides are correct and accurate, if they weren't they would only be devs on here and no users.
Where are the cakes?
I'm not sure how use words like 'incomplete' or 'incorrect' when I have used neither to describe the developers guides.
For the third time, I said miss understanding and miss information on behalf of the users who are attempting the guides. Not at all did I say or imply that the developers guides are useless. Now, I fully understand the point you're making about this being annoying, I just failed to understand how annoying this actually is on a large scale. I'm new to forums like this and it's obvious now that repetitive posts become annoying after many people have already discuss them, to which I apologise for.
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G'day all. I've been lurking around XDA Developers for many years, and have flashed many phones and tablets. I've owned a One M8 for around six months, but have not felt the need to root and flash it, until now. After entering this forum, I'm somewhat overwhelmed by the sheer amount of activity; the choices of ROMs, tools, etc. I certainly have no aversion to reading as much as I need to (in order to avoid asking stupid questions that have been asked a million times before), but some of the threads have literally thousands of responses to wade through.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, as far as which threads I should spend my time on in the short term (a bit of a quick-start guide, so to speak?).
Wrong section bro. Next time do some research and read and please read. Trust me it's not rocket science.
Edit: oh and plz don't tell about not familiar with HTC. After almost three years, I finally made a switch to m8 from Nexus 5. It took me about 3 hours to have my m8 unlocked rooted and s-off. How? Reading is a bless .
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G'day all. I've been lurking around XDA Developers for many years, and have flashed many phones and tablets. I've owned a One M8 for around six months, but have not felt the need to root and flash it, until now. After entering this forum, I'm somewhat overwhelmed by the sheer amount of activity; the choices of ROMs, tools, etc. I certainly have no aversion to reading as much as I need to (in order to avoid asking stupid questions that have been asked a million times before), but some of the threads have literally thousands of responses to wade through.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, as far as which threads I should spend my time on in the short term (a bit of a quick-start guide, so to speak?).
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I hate to be the one to break it down to you but the best way is lurking around. There are separate threat for all major US carrier. You can start in there to see what type of Rom/mod turns you on original Android development is mainly kenerls both AOSP and sense and some AOSP ROMS . The best piece of advice I can give you is go S-Off (if you are not allready) if you want to get into modding it s gonna make your life a hole lot easier.
Hope it helps
May the roms be with you.
Thanks Kuss. I'm in Australia with Telstra, so that may (or may not) complicate things. I'll start reading, or sell the phone and buy something with a less active forum. LOL.
rodbacon said:
G'day all. I've been lurking around XDA Developers for many years, and have flashed many phones and tablets. I've owned a One M8 for around six months, but have not felt the need to root and flash it, until now. After entering this forum, I'm somewhat overwhelmed by the sheer amount of activity; the choices of ROMs, tools, etc. I certainly have no aversion to reading as much as I need to (in order to avoid asking stupid questions that have been asked a million times before), but some of the threads have literally thousands of responses to wade through.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, as far as which threads I should spend my time on in the short term (a bit of a quick-start guide, so to speak?).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
The ultimate guide!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2700571
A great developer! I've tried them all and keep going back here.
Goodluck
kuss587 said:
May the roms be with you.
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*drum roll*
badboy47 said:
Wrong section bro. Next time do some research and read and please read. Trust me it's not rocket science.
Edit: oh and plz don't tell about not familiar with HTC. After almost three years, I finally made a switch to m8 from Nexus 5. It took me about 3 hours to have my m8 unlocked rooted and s-off. How? Reading is a bless .
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dankaren said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
The ultimate guide!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2700571
A great developer! I've tried them all and keep going back here.
Goodluck
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I appreciate those links. I'll start there for sure.
rodbacon said:
Thanks Kuss. I'm in Australia with Telstra, so that may (or may not) complicate things. I'll start reading, or sell the phone and buy something with a less active forum. LOL.
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I got the same one too! I would S-Off asap if its possible with the version of hboot!
There's also nothing better than trying out different ROMs and even xposed modules. For me google play edition ROMs are for me.
I also used VomerGuides when i started, and i would suggest you go for a Sense Rom to start with, e.g. ARHD or ViperOne.
Dude, you are NOT alone. (But, yes, wrong section...LOL).
My pearls of wisdom for you, from one noob to another:
Get used to using adb. Basically, install fastboot and adb (you'll see reference to these in the guides linked in the posts above), and you run adb through your cmd window. Whatever files (zip/img) you need to push to the m8, place those in your adb folder and then just run your command window from that folder...makes things really easy.
Also, if you try to get all fancy and convert your m8 into the GPE m8 (which is what I did), I'm pretty sure the standard OTAs you'll get upon reboot break your root (and recovery), so just keep that in mind. I was planning on letting the phone auto-update to lollipop, but I think I'd prefer having the tweaks from custom roms, so I'm here now scoping those out.
If you have any questions, though, feel free to PM me, and I'll do my best to help! I agree, though, that for non-coders, the m8 modding is more intimidating than the modding was for other phones I've owned
With a handle like "Rodbacon" you are allowed to poste questions wherever you like