First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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I assume that you have the fastboot files for the htc one x .
If not then please search on xda
Make sure u backup all your important data,contacts,etc
Step 1. Register on htcdev.com
Step 2. Unlocking the bootloader
Enable usb debugging on your phone
Power off your hox
Hold power button and volume down to get into bootloader
Select fastboot
Connect hox to ur pc using usb cable
Open command prompt
Go to your fastboot folder ex. cd c:\fastboot
type "fastboot oem get_identifier_token" without quotes
Copy the token code.. check on htcdev site for copying that token code
Submit your token code
Wait for an email from htc
After you get, download the Unlock_code.bin file from the email u received
Copy it to ur fastboot folder
In command prompt type "fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin" without quotes
On your hox u will be prompted with "Unlock bootloader?"
Choose yes using volume buttons and then press power button
This unlocks your bootloader.
Sry gtg, will post on how to root, after sometime..
Till then unlock your bootloader.
Is the phone branded? Is the phone evita or endeavoru? Check the bootloader
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There are lots of youtube video of the process.
It's really easy, if you follow them there is nothing dangerous that might happen.
Check this tool, it may make your life easier.
Good luck
Check the post by Hasoon in the stickies. Truly foolproof
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Craiglivesey94 said:
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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One thing to make absolutely clear is that there is absolutely never, ever an exact foolproof method. The rooting process is as simple as it can be made and yet many fools somehow manage to screw their devices.
You are looking for a guarantee, a process that is "undeniably going to work". You are NOT going to get one.
Skipping some questions...
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I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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You better be sure don't just assumed. Listen for Stefan0vic check your bootloader(hboot).
Craiglivesey94 said:
I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
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Because I'm not gonna spams if I'd do it correctly without problems. You better don't want to go through any exact noob proof methods believe me, else you'll most likely ended up with some bogus mistake/error accompany by panic and shout help me xda-ers...
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... should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
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Since we're using official bootloader unlocked process not s-off, we're actually immuned to hard bricking our phone. Unharmful soft bricking happening sometimes, however 99% of human mistake or boot image did't flash properly. Assumed that you're not going to flashes any custom ROM thus you will most unlikely to face bootloop btw.
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For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
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Trickier parts. First let me explained how official OTA updates apply, it checks and verifying on many aspects to ensure integrity of the ROM. If you removed system apps, themed on it, altered framework files, you will fail to complete OTA update. Even you don't do somethings like I said, you will still lost root access after successfully apply though simple re-rooting resolve the problem.
To play safe, make sure you find a RUU for your phone (according to your phone's CID; edeavoru/evita does matter) with greater or same version number as your current. Else you might wanna to make yourself one immediately you unlokced your phone or look in the [Stock Nandroid Backups for Different CIDs] thread on this sub-forum. The reason to do that is so you can always fallback to original ROM state for an official OTA.
If the guides on this forum are not clear enough for you then you should not be attempting to do anything with your phone. There are a multitude of threads on here and 99% of them are aimed at the beginner and are as simple as they can be. If you cannot follow them then you haven't read enough. Please remember this is a Forum for developers and everyone else, including myself, is a guest here. No one is under any obligation to explain anything or provide guides of any kind, they do it because they want to. You are basically making a post directed at the people who have provided guides out of the goodness of their hearts and telling them that those guides are useless. That's not a very nice thing to do. And yes, this is another unnecessary thread
You have been clued
I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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Thanks for response, I was worried I wouldn't be getting the 4.2.2 update whenever it arrives.
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Nice! I will refer my friends to this every time I get the "what is rooting" question.
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I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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It is clear and it is foolproof. I'm no expert and I used the guides to which you are referring. The problem, which you don't seem to be able to understand, is that the people who are having problems have not read and understood everything before they proceed. And you have implied that the guides are no good, again. It is not mis-information, it is impatience. Read, read and read again, use the search button and read once more. Everything you ask has been answered over and over again and everyone is fed up of seeing the same questions multiple times a day. Have a look in almost any rom thread and you will see that devs and team members are repeating themselves constantly simply because people can't or won't use the search button and fail to read previous posts.
Pause a little and think how the author of a help post must feel when they read that their guide is being reported as incomplete or incorrect after spending countless hours making sure the information is correct.
Rest assured that all guides are correct and accurate, if they weren't they would only be devs on here and no users.
Where are the cakes?
I'm not sure how use words like 'incomplete' or 'incorrect' when I have used neither to describe the developers guides.
For the third time, I said miss understanding and miss information on behalf of the users who are attempting the guides. Not at all did I say or imply that the developers guides are useless. Now, I fully understand the point you're making about this being annoying, I just failed to understand how annoying this actually is on a large scale. I'm new to forums like this and it's obvious now that repetitive posts become annoying after many people have already discuss them, to which I apologise for.
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i don't know whether i should root my phone because i am afraid of bricking it, but there are too much limitations with unrooted phone.
It's really up to you, it isn't that risky if you have enough knowledge to do everything exactly according to the guides.
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It's really up to you, it isn't that risky if you have enough knowledge to do everything exactly according to the guides.
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im not sure coz i updated my software directly from htc and idk can it be rooted without any probs. which guide do you recommend?
Tell us your build number. It is in settings-about-software information. Then ppl can tell you what to do next.
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In case you're not sure, you can check your build number through...
Setting >> About Phone >> Software Information.
=)
Stock rom Android 2.2.1
Build no.
1.84.707.2 CL335251 release-keys
Software no.
1.84.707.2
Then start from the Downgrade guide
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Erm, how? Please teach me step by step pls. I really know nothing.
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I do not need to teach you, I have written a detailed guide. Check it out.
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No offense, but you need a little knowledge to root and flash a custom rom. This isn't meant for the average user. It feels like everyone who gets an android phone nowadays (as it's becoming a more popular OS) want's to root and flash a custom rom as soon as they have in their hands without even knowing what it really means. The information to do all this is available here on this forum in form of guides which in most of the cases are quite extensive. If you want to root and flash a custom rom etc, you will have to do some reading on your own.
AFAIK this forum isn't here to hold the hands of android virgins as they try modify their phones without even knowing what a command prompt is. Almost every day someone new wants step by step instructions for this and for that even though there are good instructions out there. This forum is meant for people with some experience and knowledge that want to get the most out of our phones. New members are ofcourse welcome, but please, do some studying on your own too.
I was so scared to root my first phone last week. I sat for three hours reading guides over and over again to make sure I new what I was doing and I havent regretted doing it.
Too often I come across threads like this, if your not sure then you probably don't need to root, yet! If you decide to root read the stickies in the development thread, and don't say you havent got time to read a 100 page thread it'll be a lot quicker than fixing your DHD when it's buggered up
Hi ghostofcain
I hope you do not take offence to my reply.
ghostofcain said:
Too often I come across threads like this, if your not sure then you probably don't need to root, yet! If you decide to root read the stickies in the development thread, and don't say you havent got time to read a 100 page thread it'll be a lot quicker than fixing your DHD when it's buggered up
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I think you will find naomispoon has managed to ROOT the device.
naomispoon said:
I was so scared to root my first phone last week. I sat for three hours reading guides over and over again to make sure I new what I was doing and I havent regretted doing it.
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They say:- I havent regretted doing it.
Take Care
TheQuest
I DIDN'T need to downgrade first and simply followed the video on the bottom of this page.
(Youtube version)
I then simply installed CM7 rom via Rom Manager.
(I am rarely sick but I had been quite ill and in a lot of pain for a few days which was a shock to the system, and when I did get better, I had the mindset that nothing matters at all.) It's not easy for most folk to feel that way. Life is a game. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Unless you are unhappy or bored with Sense or the performance of your phone - there isn't too much reason to root in my opinion.
Hi Grant Barker
Grant Barker said:
I DIDN'T need to downgrade first and simply followed the video on the bottom of this page.
(Youtube version)
I then simply installed CM7 rom via Rom Manager.
(I am rarely sick but I had been quite ill and in a lot of pain for a few days which was a shock to the system, and when I did get better, I had the mindset that nothing matters at all.) It's not easy for most folk to feel that way. Life is a game. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Unless you are unhappy or bored with Sense or the performance of your phone - there isn't too much reason to root in my opinion.
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Really nice site you have, had a quick click, another & another, had to force myself stop clicking as I need to go to bed soon [4:30 here].
Bookmarked it, and will be back to it, many thanks.
Take Care
TheQuest
Best thing i ever did. I had a jailbroken iphone before i got my Desire HD so rooting was the first thing i looked at when i got my HD, getting rid of the branding was the main reason but then i realized how many Roms were out there and now its hard to choose which one to use :
@I'm TheQuest
I think ghostofcain was talking about the OP...
I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Grant Barker
Really nice site you have, had a quick click, another & another, had to force myself stop clicking as I need to go to bed soon [4:30 here].
Bookmarked it, and will be back to it, many thanks.
Take Care
TheQuest
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Thanks very much.
There's a lot of changes and benefits if you root your phone and install a custom ROM... First, there are a lot of custom ROMs, for any taste. MIUI imitate the iOS system, with the liberty of Android OS, for example, and RevoHD leave the original SENSE ROM, with improvements of course.
Then, custom ROMs have some interesting tweaks, like zipalign, the ads removing and a better management of the RAM.
To finish, I did it myself (running the MIUI ROM by Rey) and I have no regrets. After reading a few tutorials it was easy as ABC !
Like it was said before It's up to you, I dont intend to convince anyone, but If you wanna do it, go doing some searches. This forum has some tutorials, and anyone, even a noob can understand them.
jkoljo said:
I do not need to teach you, I have written a detailed guide. Check it out.
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hey there, i followed your guide but i keep failing. help pls.
Hi all,
I think it would be great if some guides to do certain things like downgrading firmware or turning S-OFF to have screen shots because somebody like does not know what to enter in each step because in command prompt you need to set a directory when you want the command to work. It would be great for everyone to follow instructions. Just like the HTC Dev Unlocking Bootloader website where they show photos with a screenshot on what to do next.
I know that storing images into a server can use up a lot file but I think this would be a great idea.
If you want to write a guide to doing those things with screenshots, all power to you I am not sure how this relates to XDA, its not like they have ever phone ever made available to them todo guides for, and each phone is generally slightly different.
As far as hosting, even photobucket will do the job nicely.
knightslay2 said:
Hi all,
I think it would be great if some guides to do certain things like downgrading firmware or turning S-OFF to have screen shots because somebody like does not know what to enter in each step because in command prompt you need to set a directory when you want the command to work. It would be great for everyone to follow instructions. Just like the HTC Dev Unlocking Bootloader website where they show photos with a screenshot on what to do next.
I know that storing images into a server can use up a lot file but I think this would be a great idea.
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The guides that are posted are done so with the point of learning what to type where. Modding your phone is not something to do because you think it is cool. IT carries real risks. Remember this is a development site. Not a How To site. If you want to do this as stated above feel free. Just keep in mind that it is expected that when you attempt to do anything to rewrite the vase OS of your phone that you have done the proper research and thought about it long and hard.
zelendel said:
The guides that are posted are done so with the point of learning what to type where. Modding your phone is not something to do because you think it is cool. IT carries real risks. Remember this is a development site. Not a How To site. If you want to do this as stated above feel free. Just keep in mind that it is expected that when you attempt to do anything to rewrite the vase OS of your phone that you have done the proper research and thought about it long and hard.
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"Modding your phone is not something to do because you think it's cool"
XDA has more than 3 million members who would disagree with you on that. What is not cool about rooting and modding your device?
"Remember, this is a development site, not a how to site"
Not entirely true. While XDA's main purpose is to provide a forum that encourages developers to be creative and share their hard work with the community, developers include detailed instructions on "how to" install/flash a ROM or MOD. XDA is also about teamwork, and encourages experienced members to guide new members in the right direction.
"Just keep in mind that it is expected that when you attempt to do anything to rewrite the vase OS of your phone that you have done the proper research and thought about it long and hard."
Not sure what there is to think long and hard about. Most people are here because of the freedom and flexibility the Android platform has to offer. Rooting and modding is not rocket science, nor heart surgery; but rather fun and interesting. I think it's safe to assume that most people who come here, do so to test the limits of their devices, while adding customizations that express who they are. For every mistake made by an inexperienced member, there is usually a workaround to remedy the issue.
While XDA encourages members to read, read, and read some more before attempting to root or mod, it's not done to discourage people from modding/rooting but rather a "proceed at your own risk" approach to prevent inexperienced members from flooding and overwelming the developers with support questions when something goes wrong.
My point is that rooting and modding is fun; A LOT of fun, and very interesting. The ability and freedom to customize your device to your liking, while increasing the performance, and pushing your device to the limits is what made XDA what it is today; One gigantic family of people who share a common interest.
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knightslay2 said:
Hi all,
I think it would be great if some guides to do certain things like downgrading firmware or turning S-OFF to have screen shots because somebody like does not know what to enter in each step because in command prompt you need to set a directory when you want the command to work. It would be great for everyone to follow instructions. Just like the HTC Dev Unlocking Bootloader website where they show photos with a screenshot on what to do next.
I know that storing images into a server can use up a lot file but I think this would be a great idea.[/QUOTE
You didn't provide enough information in your OP. You might get more assistance if people knew which device you have.
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Not sure why people have so many issues flashing ROMs
Boot loops and all kinds of craziness. Jesus!
All that is needed:
Wipe data/Factory reset
Wipe system
Flash ROM
Flash Gapps
That's it... Any more steps are hogwash.
If you flash a bunch of other mods and crap you may have issues.
As to these Aroma flashes with 50 different mods. Yes it will break stuff if you have no idea what you are flashing.
Off the soapbox now.
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that usually happens with newbies
because its their frst time
once u r used to it ,you are not afraid any more....but still its very diffcult to make a newbie undrstnd ...
I am not a newb when it comes to flashing, but i can see that some of the biggest problems with newbie errors come with the fact that this forum isn't exactly the neatest or newb friendly...
I have unbricked devices I've never owned or messed with, using geek codes that I have no idea what they are for or mean, but that was because the guides were easily accessible, had properly updated OPs and didn't take a whole lot of searching to find the right answer to minor errors I may encounter
On the other hand with these boards, it seems like one has to dig through 200 pages of comments just to find the answer to one thing, FAQs are incomplete, and there is no real beginners guide to doing anything... All one gets is do , A, B, C,... When it should be "complete step A (if you haven't done "such and such" prior, then follow this link here), then do step B (full steps can be found here), etc.
When a newb is just expected to know what it means to root, back up apps/data, flash custom recovery, etc (for the first time) and there is no direction/link from the OP as to where they can go to complete each and every step thoroughly, then I can see why there are mess ups
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PhxDroid86 said:
I am not a newb when it comes to flashing, but i can see that some of the biggest problems with newbie errors come with the fact that this forum isn't exactly the neatest or newb friendly...
I have unbricked devices I've never owned or messed with, using geek codes that I have no idea what they are for or mean, but that was because the guides were easily accessible, had properly updated OPs and didn't take a whole lot of searching to find the right answer to minor errors I may encounter
On the other hand with these boards, it seems like one has to dig through 200 pages of comments just to find the answer to one thing, FAQs are incomplete, and there is no real beginners guide to doing anything... All one gets is do , A, B, C,... When it should be "complete step A (if you haven't done "such and such" prior, then follow this link here), then do step B (full steps can be found here), etc.
When a newb is just expected to know what it means to root, back up apps/data, flash custom recovery, etc (for the first time) and there is no direction/link from the OP as to where they can go to complete each and every step thoroughly, then I can see why there are mess ups
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well this completely cant be true unless you know whom to pursue or if u never read the rules....many peoples always post in the wrong section which makes us difficult to understand
Soul reaper said:
well this completely cant be true unless you know whom to pursue or if u never read the rules....many peoples always post in the wrong section which makes us difficult to understand
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Don't get me wrong, the answers are there... I get it, but I must say (all prior device forums weren't this bad... even currently, I mess with my GNII, a Nexus 7, a Nexus 4, a MyTouch4GSlide, a Huawei Ascend and Mercury(<--S.O.B), ZTE X500, Thunderbolt, Note 1, etc... none of those forums are this messed up (but also none are this new or diverse)
My rant isn't with the Dev's (OP's) as they are to busy to worry about those who irresponsibly don't know what they are getting themselves into, and ultimately no one moderator has enough resources to clean up after everyone
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PhxDroid86 said:
Don't get me wrong, the answers are there... I get it, but I must say (all prior device forums weren't this bad... even currently, I mess with my GNII, a Nexus 7, a Nexus 4, a MyTouch4GSlide, a Huawei Ascend and Mercury(<--S.O.B), ZTE X500, Thunderbolt, Note 1, etc... none of those forums are this messed up (but also none are this new or diverse)
My rant isn't with the Dev's (OP's) as they are to busy to worry about those who irresponsibly don't know what they are getting themselves into, and ultimately no one moderator has enough resources to clean up after everyone
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There are some bad ROMs that try to do too much in the way of mods and many do not see the potential issues.
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RonnieRuff said:
There are some bad ROMs that try to do too much in the way of mods and many do not see the potential issues.
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I agree that sometimes the dangers of what one might do aren't fully explained (or realized even) at times. Aroma installs are conceptually quite appealing, but their implementation can be problematic if not careful - hopefully the stuff I've put together falls in the careful category anyway
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I agree that sometimes the dangers of what one might do aren't fully explained (or realized even) at times. Aroma installs are conceptually quite appealing, but their implementation can be problematic if not careful - hopefully the stuff I've put together falls in the careful category anyway
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I have one particular in mind.. Not yours. The thread is nothing but issues because the instructions are weak and I honestly believe you can add everything but the kitchen sink most of it not tested by anyone. Noobs flash it all not understanding why half of it never works.
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Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
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No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
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Well, most people consider root a power, and with great power..... Anyways,this is a developer forum, aimed at developers. I don't have a problem teachinganyone anything (within the realm of my knowledge, of course), but I do have aproblem with those who want their hand held, and refuse to look on their own. Ican pretty much guarantee you, that if you don't learn anything, and wanteverything spelled out, that's all fine and dandy, till you have an issue. Orsomething else doesn't work right, and then you constantly ask questions on howto fix your phone when a little research and a little learning will preventmost of these issues in the first place.
kyphur said:
I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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/end rant.
Sorry about that. You're easiest bet is to use htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader, then flash a recovery through your now unlocked HBOOT, then flash aSuperuser.zip to gain root.
if you knew someone who could root it for you, that would be easiest. maybe you could pay someone to root your phone? you know what we say, only smart people now how to get stuff for free or cheap. and in the realm of 'hacking" what we are definitely doing is value adding to what we have.
but if you learn how to do it, you could be that person helping others!
btw, funny thing about that link-that is the one I used. i found it a little intimidating at first(and looked extensively for an easier way that I never found) but now that I;ve rooted 3 phones, its fairly accurate. unfortunately you do have to go through the steps. there aren;t any shortcuts but it works. and the good thing is that if anything actually goes wrong in the process, atleast you should know where and why and how to fix.
Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH
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You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
insomniac_lemon said:
You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
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FWIW, there was a version of Unrevoked that worked with certain versions of the Dinc's software (that's how I originally rooted my first Dinc), but recent OTA upgrades have made that method very unreliable. If you have HBOOT 1.07, there is no question that the best way to get root is using the guide, and yes, that guide the OP linked is a very good one. Follow it carefully and it will work, every time. You can even stop at step 3 and have a stock, rooted, s-on phone, without the complicated downgrade which is required to get s-off. Which is what the OP wanted, I believe.
Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
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LOL @ legible ENGLISH :good: Sometimes I feel the same way.
P.S. Broke out my old HTC INCRED 2. Think I may try rooting it. Got nothing to loose.
Keep the threads alive; -)
Just wanted to make sure it is rootable before I buy. Also, is the rooting process as simple as clicking a button (Like KingRoot/Towelroot) or is it more complex? I want to be crystal clear before I buy the tablet.
Did you even attempt to look around before posting this?? A quick glance in Android Development would have answered your question in a few seconds.
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Did you even attempt to look around before posting this?? A quick glance in Android Development would have answered your question in a few seconds.
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Unfortunately, I'm no Android expert. In fact, I've never had an android device before; this will be my first.
I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-install-custom-t3307183
I wasn't able to make too much sense out of it, besides the fact that it's complicated. I just want a straightforward answer; is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
ir0r0 said:
Unfortunately, I'm no Android expert. In fact, I've never had an android device before; this will be my first.
I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-install-custom-t3307183
I wasn't able to make too much sense out of it, besides the fact that it's complicated. I just want a straightforward answer; is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
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Then why do you want to root? You kinda need to be able to understand what you're doing regardless.
But anyway look at the toolkit in original dev section
ir0r0 said:
is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
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Yes.
Does it make sense for you to root your tablet?
No.
ir0r0 said:
Just wanted to make sure it is rootable before I buy. Also, is the rooting process as simple as clicking a button (Like KingRoot/Towelroot) or is it more complex? I want to be crystal clear before I buy the tablet.
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I have rooted every android device I have ever owned a bout a dozen going back 4-5 years now i guess.
not as difficult as my Oneplus 2 but not a cake walk either.
I wouldn't recommend this device for rooting if you have never done it before.
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I have rooted every android device I have ever owned a bout a dozen going back 4-5 years now i guess.
not as difficult as my Oneplus 2 but not a cake walk either.
I wouldn't recommend this device for rooting if you have never done it before.
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Bottomline is it doable by someone experienced in iOS jailbreaking?
What is the issue when we already have root? Follow the instructions in the post and you'll have no problems.
ir0r0 said:
Unfortunately, I'm no Android expert. In fact, I've never had an android device before; this will be my first.
I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-install-custom-t3307183
I wasn't able to make too much sense out of it, besides the fact that it's complicated. I just want a straightforward answer; is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
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We we're all beginners once but laziness is not an acceptable excuse. If you would have even glanced an inch down from General on the Pixel C section of the XDA website you would have clearly seen two out of the only three threads in Android Development talk about root, if you would have looked at the very first thread (Xceed kernel) you would have clearly seen that it IS rootable and how to go about doing it. Also if you even glanced at Original Android Development and took a look at MSkip's thread about his toolkit it is a simple utility that allows you to unlock and root (not sure if he added this in yet) your device with the press of a button. Hell you could have even googled "pixel c root" and been shown various pages that would say that it is rootable. How much more obvious do you want it to be?
Your last sentence is ridiculous, that's like saying "Can I transplant a person's heart without knowing a single thing about medicine?" The answer is yes, but you'll most likely screw something up then come crying to us to fix it for you when your $500 tablet is dead. You seem to know absolutely nothing about Android, yet you know what rooting is (do you actually know what it means, or is it just a term you learned?), if you want to mess around with Android and get your feet wet with rooting and modding, get a Nexus device, they're a lot harder (neigh impossible) to brick. There is very little development for ANY tablet, and this is an especially odd one since it was originally meant to be a ChromeOS device, but at the last second they decided to throw Android on it instead so the bootloader is completely different than your standard Android device, which means the rooting process is different than any other Android device. Rooting and modding Android devices is not a simple "one and done" thing like jailbreaking an iPhone is (I did it years ago to an ex's iPhone 4 and actually found it far more complicated than unlocking a Nexus device, other devices are a different story). You actually have to know what you're doing and how to fix it in the event that something doesn't work correctly. I have rooted friends phones before when they asked me to and had no idea what to do when I gave it back to them so every time something went goofy they would come running to me to fix it for them, then blame me when something doesn't work the way they expected it to.
Read up on how to unlock a Nexus device (It literally takes about 30 seconds and three words you have to type), then how to flash a recovery image (once again, only 4 words and another 30 seconds). Sorry for sounding like an asshole but a lot of us here don't tolerate helpless users and if you keep asking questions like this where there are obvious answers you continually get this type of response. It would be more understandable if this forum section was overloaded with tons of threads and the information buried deep within a 50 page thread in one of the sub sections (I've been guilty of that and I've been here for years), but once again, there are literally like 3 threads in the development sections and the info is in the first page of the first thread.
edit: I just looked at the link you posted and if you can't follow a simple step by step instruction manual which provides you with literally everything you need, don't even attempt it because you obviously have no clue what you're doing and I'm going to assume you're not a techy person because that's actually pretty simple. You should have been here a month ago when we had partially broken root access, you would have been scared to death! Try rooting the old HTC Rezound for Verizon which required a hardware mod, or try to root a Samsung Galaxy device without tripping Knox, or getting rid of it completely, then restoring it to a factory state and make it look like Knox was never removed. If you can't press a few buttons on your device to enable dev mode, then type a few commands to unlock the bootloader you're going to be completely lost later on when it comes to flashing partitions and flashing and learning about kernels. Get the Pixel C, it's a great device, root doesn't add that much functionality for now, but I wouldn't suggest even attempting to root it because you clearly lack the desire to learn anything about the rooting process and just want to do it so you can say "I rooted my Pixel C! Now what do I do with it?" I've seen tons of these types of posts, which makes the user look dumb because they don't even know why they did it in the first place, they just knew it was something "cool" to do.
Welcome to XDA
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brando56894 said:
We we're all beginners once but laziness is not an acceptable excuse. If you would have even glanced an inch down from General on the Pixel C section of the XDA website you would have clearly seen two out of the only three threads in Android Development talk about root, if you would have looked at the very first thread (Xceed kernel) you would have clearly seen that it IS rootable and how to go about doing it. Also if you even glanced at Original Android Development and took a look at MSkip's thread about his toolkit it is a simple utility that allows you to unlock and root (not sure if he added this in yet) your device with the press of a button. Hell you could have even googled "pixel c root" and been shown various pages that would say that it is rootable. How much more obvious do you want it to be?
Your last sentence is ridiculous, that's like saying "Can I transplant a person's heart without knowing a single thing about medicine?" The answer is yes, but you'll most likely screw something up then come crying to us to fix it for you when your $500 tablet is dead. You seem to know absolutely nothing about Android, yet you know what rooting is (do you actually know what it means, or is it just a term you learned?), if you want to mess around with Android and get your feet wet with rooting and modding, get a Nexus device, they're a lot harder (neigh impossible) to brick. There is very little development for ANY tablet, and this is an especially odd one since it was originally meant to be a ChromeOS device, but at the last second they decided to throw Android on it instead so the bootloader is completely different than your standard Android device, which means the rooting process is different than any other Android device. Rooting and modding Android devices is not a simple "one and done" thing like jailbreaking an iPhone is (I did it years ago to an ex's iPhone 4 and actually found it far more complicated than unlocking a Nexus device, other devices are a different story). You actually have to know what you're doing and how to fix it in the event that something doesn't work correctly. I have rooted friends phones before when they asked me to and had no idea what to do when I gave it back to them so every time something went goofy they would come running to me to fix it for them, then blame me when something doesn't work the way they expected it to.
Read up on how to unlock a Nexus device (It literally takes about 30 seconds and three words you have to type), then how to flash a recovery image (once again, only 4 words and another 30 seconds). Sorry for sounding like an asshole but a lot of us here don't tolerate helpless users and if you keep asking questions like this where there are obvious answers you continually get this type of response. It would be more understandable if this forum section was overloaded with tons of threads and the information buried deep within a 50 page thread in one of the sub sections (I've been guilty of that and I've been here for years), but once again, there are literally like 3 threads in the development sections and the info is in the first page of the first thread.
edit: I just looked at the link you posted and if you can't follow a simple step by step instruction manual which provides you with literally everything you need, don't even attempt it because you obviously have no clue what you're doing and I'm going to assume you're not a techy person because that's actually pretty simple. You should have been here a month ago when we had partially broken root access, you would have been scared to death! Try rooting the old HTC Rezound for Verizon which required a hardware mod, or try to root a Samsung Galaxy device without tripping Knox, or getting rid of it completely, then restoring it to a factory state and make it look like Knox was never removed. If you can't press a few buttons on your device to enable dev mode, then type a few commands to unlock the bootloader you're going to be completely lost later on when it comes to flashing partitions and flashing and learning about kernels. Get the Pixel C, it's a great device, root doesn't add that much functionality for now, but I wouldn't suggest even attempting to root it because you clearly lack the desire to learn anything about the rooting process and just want to do it so you can say "I rooted my Pixel C! Now what do I do with it?" I've seen tons of these types of posts, which makes the user look dumb because they don't even know why they did it in the first place, they just knew it was something "cool" to do.
Welcome to XDA
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No offense taken. Thanks for the time though, I'll give it a think over.
You're welcome, if you need help with something that you can't find an answer to easily, we'll gladly help you, just don't expect any hand holding hahaha