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okay, so on throttling...

i want to use the tool on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888372. i was reading through the t-mobile guide on throttling, and i got to page 9 without finding my answer. there are 39 pages, and i'm sorry if it offends someone that i didnt read through them all. so, my question is, will this tool work on my g2? or will it break it? i have back ups of both the stock rooted g2 rom, and my cyangoen user customized rom on my phone and on my computer. but i'd really rather not wait the ten minutes without internet that is going to happen if this ****s up.
EDIT: Okay so just be clear, this a post, about a tool, for the htc EVO, linked up there, that i want to know, whether it would be safe to use, on my G2

Dude, at least *try* to do your own research before starting a new thread. No more than halfway down on the first page of this subforum is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
How to defeat data throttling, specifically built for the G2.

moved up to orig post.

jenlow said:
just to be clear, this is a question about a tool, for the htc evo, to remove throttling on sprint. if youd click through, you would see that. what i want to know, is if its safe to use on the g2.
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Why would you think something made specificly for another phone would work on the G2. There is a thread in development for this subject and give instructions on how to defeat the data throttling, if those instructions are to complicated for you to follow then I think you might have to wait for someone here in the G2 forum to come up with a one click solution.
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why does everyone on xda think im retarded? I just want to know, if it would be safe to use. as from what i can tell, it only edits the services.jar file. I did not say i could not follow the directions on how to defeat throttling. I did not say i couldnt handle it. what i did say, was IS IT SAFE TO USE.

joemm said:
Why would you think something made specificly for another phone would work on the G2. There is a thread in development for this subject and give instructions on how to defeat the data throttling, if those instructions are to complicated for you to follow then I think you might have to wait for someone here in the G2 forum to come up with a one click solution.
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and if reading, correct spelling, and the correct usage of too, to, and two are too complicated for you, you should probably get microsoft word.

jenlow said:
why does everyone on xda think im retarded? I just want to know, if it would be safe to use. as from what i can tell, it only edits the services.jar file. I did not say i could not follow the directions on how to defeat throttling. I did not say i couldnt handle it. what i did say, was IS IT SAFE TO USE.
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Heres an idea, back up YOUR system, nandriod, then download the evo tool and run it, then you will get your awnser, i dont think anyone here is gonna be your beta tester, if its eatting at you that bad to know, then test it and let the rest of us know the big question. Does it work?
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jenlow said:
and if reading, correct spelling, and the correct usage of too, to, and two are too complicated for you, you should probably get microsoft word.
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At least I can follow instructions, and I dont have threads closed. Trust me everyone here is getting tired of you. And the data throttling thread works great for me, learn how to edit the service.jar files and repackage them then you wont have to beg for awnsers.....lol....please help me someone blah,blah,blah...
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jenlow said:
why does everyone on xda think im retarded? I just want to know, if it would be safe to use. as from what i can tell, it only edits the services.jar file. I did not say i could not follow the directions on how to defeat throttling. I did not say i couldnt handle it. what i did say, was IS IT SAFE TO USE.
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I misunderstood your original post.
However, here's what I'm thinking (no I didn't try it, I don't care about data throttling, but I did read the OP on both links). Given that this is a services.jar edit, and the threads linked specifically say that each ROM's services.jar file is different (hence the lack of a single solution for all ROMs), I would say that this is *probably* not a good idea to use across devices.
As mentioned above though, simply do a nandroid and then try it yourself - as long as you can boot into recovery, you can restore the nandroid if it doesn't and then the only thing you've wasted is ~15-20 minutes of your own time.

the orange bandit said:
I misunderstood your original post.
However, here's what I'm thinking (no I didn't try it, I don't care about data throttling, but I did read the OP on both links). Given that this is a services.jar edit, and the threads linked specifically say that each ROM's services.jar file is different (hence the lack of a single solution for all ROMs), I would say that this is *probably* not a good idea to use across devices.
As mentioned above though, simply do a nandroid and then try it yourself - as long as you can boot into recovery, you can restore the nandroid if it doesn't and then the only thing you've wasted is ~15-20 minutes of your own time.
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what im going to try, as per a message from a user, is to use the t-mobile services.jar in the zip, an edited version, and use it that way.
the reason i did ask, is that as my phone is the only source of internet i have atm, i dont want to break it permanently, or to a point where i need to have the internet to fix it.

joemm said:
At least I can follow instructions, and I dont have threads closed. Trust me everyone here is getting tired of you. And the data throttling thread works great for me, learn how to edit the service.jar files and repackage them then you wont have to beg for awnsers.....lol....please help me someone blah,blah,blah...
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you can follow instructions eh? well so can i. i rooted my device, installed cyanogen on it, ive edited several other things on my phone, as per the instructions of others. Notice how i asked before i actually went through with the update? i figured hey, there's a lot of guys more knowledgeable than me on here, why not see if someone knows the answer before i end up possibly having to come back here asking for help.
But then there are retards like you. My major, is computer science. my speciality is non unix-based programming. linux is a fun little project for me, not my life. that being said, when someone out there has much more experience in an area than me, i'm not afraid to ask for help. Someone who actually understands what i am asking, like the guy above me, and the nice guy who pm'ed me knows that i'm not asking a stupid question.
So here is a little quote to live by, "There are stupid questions. But if I(jenlow) am asking a question, you can guarantee it isnt because i didnt simply miss something.
now troll, crawl into your little hole, and keep extorting the patience of those that cross your bridge.

jenlow said:
you can follow instructions eh? well so can i. i rooted my device, installed cyanogen on it, ive edited several other things on my phone, as per the instructions of others. Notice how i asked before i actually went through with the update? i figured hey, there's a lot of guys more knowledgeable than me on here, why not see if someone knows the answer before i end up possibly having to come back here asking for help.
But then there are retards like you. My major, is computer science. my speciality is non unix-based programming. linux is a fun little project for me, not my life. that being said, when someone out there has much more experience in an area than me, i'm not afraid to ask for help. Someone who actually understands what i am asking, like the guy above me, and the nice guy who pm'ed me knows that i'm not asking a stupid question.
So here is a little quote to live by, "There are stupid questions. But if I(jenlow) am asking a question, you can guarantee it isnt because i didnt simply miss something.
now troll, crawl into your little hole, and keep extorting the patience of those that cross your bridge.
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And your phone is your only source of internet....LMAO
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joemm said:
And your phone is your only source of internet....LMAO
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yeah, because i'm going to school. and i just moved into my own apartment. And since mommy and daddy dont foot my bills, i'm waiting on internet until i get paid.

jenlow said:
yeah, because i'm going to school. and i just moved into my own apartment. And since mommy and daddy dont foot my bills, i'm waiting on internet until i get paid.
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I think I hear a violin playing......
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I think i hear a troll growing, oh ****, sorry, i forgot i was feeding one. Peace.

in case anyone competent wants to check this out, here is what i have done so far. i did not flash the original tool, but i did open the tool up and replace the services.jar with an edited version using the cyanogen cm6.1.1 stable releases copy of services.jar repacked it, and tried to flash. I got ~"trying to update>opening update>update failed (bad)" in the clockwork recovery language. i didnt edit anything about the tool other than the version of services.jar inside of it.
the version i used from cyanogen, i edited following the how to defeat data throttling instructions with the windows script.

and lol to the guy who rated this thread one star. ONE GUY. ha ha hahahahahahah.

Well here's my two cents on 2 topics...
On topic : I think making a zip file for instantaneous data cap removal would be great. I did the data throttle removal when it first came about to the G2 but the kicker is that I really dislike cyanogen roms and reverted back to stock shortly after. I forget just exactly how to repack a zip like this but messed with it in Flippys overclocking zip to make my own 1.9ghz update.zip a while back. Hopefully I can make one if Jenlow doesn't figure it out before me. I personally find it to be a good overall question that is sprouting some good ideas
I mean the possibility of a zip format throttle remover would benefit the entire community so why fight about it?
Off topic : Soooooo about this internet.... I have a friend who is paying $25/mo for a 1mbit connection in his apartment. I used my speedtest app in his living room. I got roughly 9.6mbits down. (Who the hell cares about up speeds though lol)
I pay exactly the same price he does for a lan as I do for my data and it is nearly 10x faster. In cases like that, it's more than worth it to use your phone as your source for internet.
/debate

The only troll I see in this thread is the OP; otherwise, said OP would have searched the "G2 and Desire Z Android Development" section and/or just click on the second-to-last link of my signature. Considering that I must've flashed a modified system.jar to my own phone at least two dozen times over various ROMs (including the current GingerVillain), I'd say it's safe.

Preventative measures to avoid hard bricks

What are some preventative measure to prevent hard bricking my E4GT?
(Just got mine replaced after flashing CM9a4 and having my phone not start up after a supposedly successful flash - blue light)

The search button

People are reporting that using Odin to restore an EL29 ROM is the way to go. Search the forums and read through the brick thread to understand what you need to do.

He who no read get brick in hand.
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shiftr182 said:
The search button
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This made me laugh real hard lol. But yeah the search button is your best bet.
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antgly said:
What are some preventative measure to prevent hard bricking my E4GT?
(Just got mine replaced after flashing CM9a4 and having my phone not start up after a supposedly successful flash - blue light)
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This can go in "The Official How I Hard Bricked My E4GT" thread, being that it encompasses the same preventative measures.
Mi nuh tek intimidation...

Read, read, read. Read the whole post. It's really frustrating here to do that i will gladly admit, you have to dig through multiple reposts in each thread, and multiple posts totally unrelated to anything with the Rom, but you will many times come across learning something about the process, and a lot of the times learn what NOT to do from people who didn't follow directions and f'd things up.
Another thing to do is wait. Let other people test out the Rom and such and they will find problems and such that will help the developer tweak the install process.
These are just opinions of course but have always done well by me.
Oh also, Learn how to check MD5 Sums.

borkan said:
Read, read, read. Read the whole post. It's really frustrating here to do that i will gladly admit, you have to dig through multiple reposts in each thread, and multiple posts totally unrelated to anything with the Rom, but you will many times come across learning something about the process, and a lot of the times learn what NOT to do from people who didn't follow directions and f'd things up.
Another thing to do is wait. Let other people test out the Rom and such and they will find problems and such that will help the developer tweak the install process.
These are just opinions of course but have always done well by me.
Oh also, Learn how to check MD5 Sums.
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Readings tough here people post too much junk in development threads lol (seriously they do)
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antgly said:
What are some preventative measure to prevent hard bricking my E4GT?
(Just got mine replaced after flashing CM9a4 and having my phone not start up after a supposedly successful flash - blue light)
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Read and follow the OP/directions of whatever rom/kernel/mod you flash,adb push, etc. to a T
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Here's a thread that started a couple of days ago How not to Brick your E4GT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495

Stop the insanity

So many ROM threads exploding with people who flashed their way into a whole bunch of trouble, and don't know how to get out of it.
Hopefully these predicaments are the inspiration many need to learn basic ADB commands after installing the requisite programs/drivers on their cpu. The trouble could have been avoided in the first place by not blindly flashing without reading the well documented issues they may encounter.
1. Read the thread,
2. Read the stickies,
3. If you occasionally like getting into trouble, at least have the proper tools available to get out of it.
4. If not, use search button.

couldn't agree more. what the devs do has taken a lot of work to make stable(ish) for everyone but it can STILL screw your **** up. so people need to be careful.
http://www.galaxynexusforum.com/for...9-basic-commands-newcomers-adb.html#post28883
theres a link that was useful for me, hopefully useful for others. further reading material, is what i guess i can say about it.

^ Can't believe I posted one of "those" threads. Lame.
Edit: just tried to thank you, but I'm thanked out for the day apparently.

If they can't read the original thread, you expect them to read this one?

its a nice thought, but roots back to RTFM, those that should never do

CMNein said:
So many ROM threads exploding with people who flashed their way into a whole bunch of trouble, and don't know how to get out of it.
Hopefully these predicaments are the inspiration many need to learn basic ADB commands after installing the requisite programs/drivers on their cpu. The trouble could have been avoided in the first place by not blindly flashing without reading the well documented issues they may encounter.
1. Read the thread,
2. Read the stickies,
3. If you occasionally like getting into trouble, at least have the proper tools available to get out of it.
4. If not, use search button.
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I don't feel sorry for them. I'm a system admin at work and I have so many users who do similar things to their pcs and I usually make them suffer a bit
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akira02rex said:
I don't feel sorry for them. I'm a system admin at work and I have so many users who do similar things to their pcs and I usually make them suffer a bit
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Yeah, not even sure why I wasted time posting that. I'm the sucker. Was somewhat entertaining in a way to see the lemmings jump off the cliff though.
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Flashing has become so easy anyone can do it. That's a problem because once they run into a problem they don't know what to do.
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Well... From this, they will learn eventually, from to 0 to 1. So they know about the technology of their device rather than just using it. People need to learn...
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this is the reason why i always tell ppl not to spoon-feed noobs answers, cuz they wont learn anything and will only mess up their phones and then beg for help by creating useless threads or post in dev threads..on the other hand if ppl didnt answer their question they will be forced to read and learn thus no more useless threads/posts

After learning how to fix my own mistakes and not relying on a toolkit, I've begun to wonder, why they are even around for the Galaxy Nexus.
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Haha that's why I stopped helping people in Q+A. I used to help with the whole "Help I'm bricked" topics. Not anymore. My opinion is don't mess with root system files than CAN brick your phone if you don't know what you're doing or at least how to recover from it manually should a problem arise. Let em sweat it before they finally search and figure out ADB. Which they will. Their first instinct is to come and just ask for help. After an hour of 0 replies and the need to use their phone now, they will search and they will find what they need. Not that it matters because you have people here saying just use the toolkit to fix it. Almost every single thread in Q+A has at least one use a toolkit reply.
Idk to be honest I just stopped giving a damn about anyone but me lol. If I tried to help every single person boot looping I'll be on XDA 24/7. I got a nexus, I jumped the gun & used a toolkit. I boot looped. I searched and I figured out what I needed to do to get back up & running. As far as I'm concerned let them do the same. That's the way it is today. Everyone wants to be spoonfed. They only want the end result, but don't wanna work for it.
Apple - Innovating new ways to take your money

Well if they brick their own phone, because what they do to it. They will be learn their lesson,...
Once i brick my tab... Then i learn from that to understand the process... About ask for help in web? ... That's out of question.. The only one left is... You and you brick phone.. Since that,i always looking many source of knowledge before do something to my phone..
Anyway android is open source isn't it? If people want to learn.. Why not..? Or it's just change like corporate, monopoly only for certain people...
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Opens door to room filled with people who think they are much more intelligent than most, snickers and quietly closes door and walks away.

Uhm. I think this is just another proof of the tiny minded humanity. Doing stuff without knowing a single bit or without thinking about consequences. Just like war. Making it without having a single idea.
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woody296 said:
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I for one was thinking of instances where I knew what was in the OP :cyclops:
My Android knowledge is debatable and it goes without saying that my intelligence is highly debatable.

swimdude1120 said:
After learning how to fix my own mistakes and not relying on a toolkit, I've begun to wonder, why they are even around for the Galaxy Nexus.
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Hey, as the guy who started the linked thread in the second post here, I've used Wug's Toolkit to save me time before. Yes, I had the knowledge to get myself out of that jam if that didn't work, but I feel the toolkits aren't a bad thing by themselves.

fish1552 said:
Hey, as the guy who started the linked thread in the second post here, I've used Wug's Toolkit to save me time before. Yes, I had the knowledge to get myself out of that jam if that didn't work, but I feel the toolkits aren't a bad thing by themselves.
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I agree they're not bad at all. People just shouldn't be so fearful of, or think that learning, terminal commands is hard. Posts like the one that was linked are a great starting point, thanks for taking the time to author that post. They can pick up where the toolkits leave off when someone's in trouble.

It kinda frustrates me too. The only reason why I have a low post count is because I know how to search and I can get my self out of pretty much any sticky situation with experience/searching. I don't understand why people automatically blame the dev for something they didn't know what was going on in the first place. I have maybe a 1/10 of the issues everyone else posts because I do the proper steps before hand or I go into it knowing what is already broke. If it is an unstable ROM then why bother complaining, you should know that not everything is going to be perfect.

Same here on the posting count. I read about what I'm going to do, can't afford to brick and buy a new phone.
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Which ROM is best?

Hey all I am rather new to the rooting/ROM scene. I was big into jailbreaking iphones but finally saw the light and switched to android.
So I have a T-mobile Galaxy S3 with stock 4.1.1 android, I have it rooted and I used ROM manager to flash ClockworkMod Recovery 6.0.2.3.
I have not ventured into the ROM world yet but I would like to know which would be the most stable? Also do you lose all data everytime you flash a ROM? If that is the case that would probably dissuade me from doing it
Is there anything else that is recommended for a rooted phone with custom recovery?
Thanks guys!

I forgot to add that I am wondering about custom modems.. I live in a very rural area and I normally only have Edge network. Would this even be worth doing?

Look, research, READ, READ, AND READ some more. Only you can decide which is the best rom.
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Please refrain from being lazy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2088179
T-Mobile SGS III

Ummmm..... YEH. A nandroid backup!!!!! Before u go ahead and tranform your phone into decepticon! Lol
Cmw, is good but I use the one from goo manager. I think their both capable of a backup!
Then afterwards have a go at it with 4.2 roms.. almost stable but still a few bugs
And touchwiz roms which are pretty much stable 4.0.4, 4.1.1 and. Soon to include 4.1.2 touchwiz roms <---- im waiting for that one
As long as u flash d2tmo roms u shouldn't come across any data problems even more so with touchwiz roms.
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elflip88 said:
Look, research, READ, READ, AND READ some more. Only you can decide which is the best rom.
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lol yea I think my brain is on overload from reading so much recently! :silly:

. You can try cyanogenmod they are usually pretty stable with all bloatware removed. Well you can always have an app like titanium backup or rom toolbox that can back up your data every time you want to flash a new rom then restore it. OK so read this carefully there's a thread that you need to find so you CAN BACK UP YOUR EMEI, if you don't know what that is its sort it like the brain of your phone you messed that up and it could become paperweight. Back up that nvfolder... also with CWR backup your current stock rom in case something goes bad you can always go back to something stable. Also don't flash other modems that's not from tmobile this will Brick your device. Since you seem pretty new don't go and flash att roms or kernels some say they have done it with no issue but again your fairly new.
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mt3g said:
Please refrain from being lazy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2088179
T-Mobile SGS III
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I do apologize but with a fiance, five kids, full time job, and something Always needing done at the house, I don't have the same amount of time as some people. I read as much and research as much as I possibly can. I trust what some of the senior members on this site have to say.
It is not a question of being lazy it is a request for information from those that know more than I do and can direct me in the right direction.
I have read about many different ROMs but I am not sure as to which one is the most stable and offer less risk of potential issues.
I like the look of the Jelly Bam ROM but it is not for the T-mobile S3.

daxecutioner24 said:
. You can try cyanogenmod they are usually pretty stable with all bloatware removed. Well you can always have an app like titanium backup or rom toolbox that can back up your data every time you want to flash a new rom then restore it. OK so read this carefully there's a thread that you need to find so you CAN BACK UP YOUR EMEI, if you don't know what that is its sort it like the brain of your phone you messed that up and it could become paperweight. Back up that nvfolder... also with CWR backup your current stock rom in case something goes bad you can always go back to something stable. Also don't flash other modems that's not from tmobile this will Brick your device. Since you seem pretty new don't go and flash att roms or kernels some say they have done it with no issue but again your fairly new.
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Thank you for your advice, I have read about the importance of using the correct carrier specific ROMS/Modems. I'll do some research on EMEI so I can fully understand it. Once again thank you for the help!

crossfx77 said:
Thank you for your advice, I have read about the importance of using the correct carrier specific ROMS/Modems. I'll do some research on EMEI so I can fully understand it. Once again thank you for the help!
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No problem here to help like others helped me. Your emei is a bunch of numbers that gives your phone identity, to your carrier. When flashing, modding themes your emei might mysteriously mess up hence why you need to back it up. Some say cwm is causing it so they prefer the touch recovery others still use cwm without issue. Also never give out those numbers they are personnel to your phone, someone who's tech savvy enough could get it.
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daxecutioner24 said:
No problem here to help like others helped me. Your emei is a bunch of numbers that gives your phone identity, to your carrier. When flashing, modding themes your emei might mysteriously mess up hence why you need to back it up. Some say cwm is causing it so they prefer the touch recovery others still use cwm without issue. Also never give out those numbers they are personnel to your phone, someone who's tech savvy enough could get it.
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yea I read some about it a few minutes ago and I get what it is. Seems like you are def SOL if you screw that up!
A friend of mine lost his phone in Baltimore one weekend and someone found it and posted all over his facebook, we called the service provided and they blacklisted the phone using his EMEI number but also told us that the phone would be a brick after they did it. My friend called his phone and the guy wanted him to pay hundreds to get it back...some people lol.

@OP here is the thread that will help you back up your IMEI. It was the very first thing I did when I got this phone, even before Rooting. If you do lose your IMEI, this will inject it back in.
I suggest that you go into the Dev section and read a few OPs (do you know the difference between AOSP and TWiz ROMs?). Find a few you like and then go in and read about the last 10 pages to get a feel for bugs. If you find one you like, then start reading.
2 things:
First, since you have 5 kids and budding family, you need something that is consistantly working. For this I do not suggest jumping into the "flashing custom ROMs pool" feet first into a 4.2.1 ROM. Those, while some are stable for crack flashers and tweakers, are still WIPs. Play with the ability you have now -> Root. Contrary to some, Rooting does not mean flashing. there are several things you can do with Root that don't rely on flashing a new ROM or Kernel or Modem. Btw, DocHoliday has a modem thread where you can flash different modems(basebands) to see what works for your tower. There is also a Google.maps attached too.
Second, "Best ROM" threads always turn into a pissing match. I think that you are getting some good info in this for now, but I am going to close it when I get back to my PC. For one, you will get moderately flamed for opening a "Best ROM" thread (I closed at least 3-5 of these a day across the site) but I am giving a reprieve for a bit (until 2:30PM est) because you are getting some good advice for now.

Woody said:
@OP here is the thread that will help you back up your IMEI. It was the very first thing I did when I got this phone, even before Rooting. If you do lose your IMEI, this will inject it back in.
I suggest that you go into the Dev section and read a few OPs (do you know the difference between AOSP and TWiz ROMs?). Find a few you like and then go in and read about the last 10 pages to get a feel for bugs. If you find one you like, then start reading.
2 things:
First, since you have 5 kids and budding family, you need something that is consistantly working. For this I do not suggest jumping into the "flashing custom ROMs pool" feet first into a 4.2.1 ROM. Those, while some are stable for crack flashers and tweakers, are still WIPs. Play with the ability you have now -> Root. Contrary to some, Rooting does not mean flashing. there are several things you can do with Root that don't rely on flashing a new ROM or Kernel or Modem. Btw, DocHoliday has a modem thread where you can flash different modems(basebands) to see what works for your tower. There is also a Google.maps attached too.
Second, "Best ROM" threads always turn into a pissing match. I think that you are getting some good info in this for now, but I am going to close it when I get back to my PC. For one, you will get moderately flamed for opening a "Best ROM" thread (I closed at least 3-5 of these a day across the site) but I am giving a reprieve for a bit (until 2:30PM est) because you are getting some good advice for now.
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Thank you sir I appreciate it, I didn't mean to start any headaches for you, I guess I should have worded it differently. I agree the information is extremely helpful and will allow me to make an educated decision into whether or not I want to flash ROMs. I am gonna lean more to not because you again brought up a valid point, I need a working phone lol.
Thanks again for the continued support and I'll be more mindful about what threads I create :angel:

crossfx77 said:
Thank you sir I appreciate it, I didn't mean to start any headaches for you, I guess I should have worded it differently. I agree the information is extremely helpful and will allow me to make an educated decision into whether or not I want to flash ROMs. I am gonna lean more to not because you again brought up a valid point, I need a working phone lol.
Thanks again for the continued support and I'll be more mindful about what threads I create :angel:
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You didn't start any headaches for me at all man. I love what I do. That is why I offered help and a link before the lock. You are all good. Take some time (with that much going on in your life, good luck finding it) and read a bit and before you know it, you'll be answering more questions than asking.
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[Q] Clarifying the rooting process for beginners?

First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?

Craiglivesey94 said:
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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I assume that you have the fastboot files for the htc one x .
If not then please search on xda
Make sure u backup all your important data,contacts,etc
Step 1. Register on htcdev.com
Step 2. Unlocking the bootloader
Enable usb debugging on your phone
Power off your hox
Hold power button and volume down to get into bootloader
Select fastboot
Connect hox to ur pc using usb cable
Open command prompt
Go to your fastboot folder ex. cd c:\fastboot
type "fastboot oem get_identifier_token" without quotes
Copy the token code.. check on htcdev site for copying that token code
Submit your token code
Wait for an email from htc
After you get, download the Unlock_code.bin file from the email u received
Copy it to ur fastboot folder
In command prompt type "fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin" without quotes
On your hox u will be prompted with "Unlock bootloader?"
Choose yes using volume buttons and then press power button
This unlocks your bootloader.
Sry gtg, will post on how to root, after sometime..
Till then unlock your bootloader.

Is the phone branded? Is the phone evita or endeavoru? Check the bootloader
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There are lots of youtube video of the process.
It's really easy, if you follow them there is nothing dangerous that might happen.
Check this tool, it may make your life easier.
Good luck

Check the post by Hasoon in the stickies. Truly foolproof
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Craiglivesey94 said:
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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One thing to make absolutely clear is that there is absolutely never, ever an exact foolproof method. The rooting process is as simple as it can be made and yet many fools somehow manage to screw their devices.
You are looking for a guarantee, a process that is "undeniably going to work". You are NOT going to get one.

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Craiglivesey94 said:
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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You better be sure don't just assumed. Listen for Stefan0vic check your bootloader(hboot).
Craiglivesey94 said:
I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
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Because I'm not gonna spams if I'd do it correctly without problems. You better don't want to go through any exact noob proof methods believe me, else you'll most likely ended up with some bogus mistake/error accompany by panic and shout help me xda-ers...
Craiglivesey94 said:
... should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
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Since we're using official bootloader unlocked process not s-off, we're actually immuned to hard bricking our phone. Unharmful soft bricking happening sometimes, however 99% of human mistake or boot image did't flash properly. Assumed that you're not going to flashes any custom ROM thus you will most unlikely to face bootloop btw.
Craiglivesey94 said:
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
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Trickier parts. First let me explained how official OTA updates apply, it checks and verifying on many aspects to ensure integrity of the ROM. If you removed system apps, themed on it, altered framework files, you will fail to complete OTA update. Even you don't do somethings like I said, you will still lost root access after successfully apply though simple re-rooting resolve the problem.
To play safe, make sure you find a RUU for your phone (according to your phone's CID; edeavoru/evita does matter) with greater or same version number as your current. Else you might wanna to make yourself one immediately you unlokced your phone or look in the [Stock Nandroid Backups for Different CIDs] thread on this sub-forum. The reason to do that is so you can always fallback to original ROM state for an official OTA.

If the guides on this forum are not clear enough for you then you should not be attempting to do anything with your phone. There are a multitude of threads on here and 99% of them are aimed at the beginner and are as simple as they can be. If you cannot follow them then you haven't read enough. Please remember this is a Forum for developers and everyone else, including myself, is a guest here. No one is under any obligation to explain anything or provide guides of any kind, they do it because they want to. You are basically making a post directed at the people who have provided guides out of the goodness of their hearts and telling them that those guides are useless. That's not a very nice thing to do. And yes, this is another unnecessary thread
You have been clued

I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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Thanks for response, I was worried I wouldn't be getting the 4.2.2 update whenever it arrives.
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Nice! I will refer my friends to this every time I get the "what is rooting" question.
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Craiglivesey94 said:
I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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It is clear and it is foolproof. I'm no expert and I used the guides to which you are referring. The problem, which you don't seem to be able to understand, is that the people who are having problems have not read and understood everything before they proceed. And you have implied that the guides are no good, again. It is not mis-information, it is impatience. Read, read and read again, use the search button and read once more. Everything you ask has been answered over and over again and everyone is fed up of seeing the same questions multiple times a day. Have a look in almost any rom thread and you will see that devs and team members are repeating themselves constantly simply because people can't or won't use the search button and fail to read previous posts.
Pause a little and think how the author of a help post must feel when they read that their guide is being reported as incomplete or incorrect after spending countless hours making sure the information is correct.
Rest assured that all guides are correct and accurate, if they weren't they would only be devs on here and no users.
Where are the cakes?

I'm not sure how use words like 'incomplete' or 'incorrect' when I have used neither to describe the developers guides.
For the third time, I said miss understanding and miss information on behalf of the users who are attempting the guides. Not at all did I say or imply that the developers guides are useless. Now, I fully understand the point you're making about this being annoying, I just failed to understand how annoying this actually is on a large scale. I'm new to forums like this and it's obvious now that repetitive posts become annoying after many people have already discuss them, to which I apologise for.
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