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[Q] Where to start

Hi, let me start by apologizing for my ignorance but ive always been in love with phones for i dont know how long and i finally have a good one specifically the evo and even though i love phones i no little about the software but i want to learn. can anyone point to the start i want to learn rooting flashing ROMs and kernels the works im not so much interested in developing but that might change once im more knowledgeable in the whole process im just some high school kid so my tech knowledge right now is pretty much zero please help i no everyone here started somewhere so can u tell me where i just want to make my phone as good as possible

Let me ask you this: What software version is on your phone right now? 2.1 or 2.2?

im running 2.2 on my evo

Take a gander at the development forum. There is a guide that was posted just a couple of days ago about rooting 2.2. Great timing for you since this method was only just discovered.
A piece of advice...after you obtain root access to your phone, be cautious about taking anymore updates from the carrier as these updates often break your root access. Every update is usually followed by a rooted version here in the forums sometimes on the same day or before.
Welcome!
Oh..and be sure to do a search in the forums for any issues you may have before posting a question to the forums. Chances are it has already been addressed...unless you enjoy getting flamed.
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Be sure to check out the evo wiki too. It has many guides and tutorials to get you started in the right direction.
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sombdy said:
A piece of advice...after you obtain root access to your phone, be cautious about taking anymore updates from the carrier as these updates often break your root access. Every update is usually followed by a rooted version here in the forums sometimes on the same day or before.
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That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.

SilverZero said:
That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
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LOL! Except we're Android people, so in the spirit of openness, I demand that you make that quote 100% free and available. (kinda like how people bash the unrevoked team about not giving away their methods...)

SilverZero said:
That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
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True, but wouldn't be plausible for an OTA to be released that turned the security permissions back on and plugged the exploits for rooting? That's why I just say be cautious. UF probably will work "forever" but it's no reason to be careless. Sticking with the rooted ROMs is just a safer bet.
So if you don't want to loose root, give those Sprint OTAs the boot.
Yeah...I'm not copyrighting that. It sucks! lol!
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thanks for all ur help i love this site so full of smart helpful people

Help Guide to Root Brand New Evo

Ok. this is the second Evo i got. 2 days ago i got my first one. tried rooting it. got lost n eveyrthing. camera stopped working idk y, took it bak, swapped me to a new one. just got the new one today, running 2.2 obviously.
Now can someone post up exactly which ones i should do to root and can someone point me in the right direction to put the Cyanogenmod 6.1 experimental on?

As much as I can't stand the people who say, "Use the Search Tool!" and then brush you off, I've got to say that after reading your post I can somewhat sympathize with them.
Your question(s) have been answered ad nauseum across these boards and a very quick search could provide the resources you are looking for far quicker than it takes to write a post and wait for an answer. I'm sure you can imagine what these boards would look like if every one of the thousands of people with the same questions as you simply posted them as you did rather than searching and reading. As the single best source for all things android and possibly the largest, it would be 90% posts just like yours and 10% of everything else. It is simply impossible and unreasonable to expect anything different.
But, I digress...
In regards to rooting the EVO... Again, it would be redundant for me or anyone else for that matter to give you step by step instructions since the answers are freely and easily available in the "Android Development" section of the EVO subforum. That said, here are two great places to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
The above two links will take you directly to the two threads representing the two different root methods. In sum, the top one is the easiest and the second one is more involved but the end result as far as the phone is concerned is identical. Lots of folks recommend the harder method simply because of the value in what you learn in the process. That said, between those two threads I think you will find all the answers you are looking for and more.

honestly, in the past 5 minutes on the first 2 pages i have seen about 3 different threads titled [GUIDE] and something to do with rooting the evo... i dont think finding a guide should be too difficult for anybody

I'm wondering what the excuse is going to be on next exchange
Make sure you read it through this time.

I purchased my EVO last week and finally found the courage to follow the thread "[TOOL][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02 S-OFF" (created by zikronix). By carefully reading the thread's instructions and all of the Q&A's that followed, I successfully rooted my phone with little difficulty. I would caution, however, that flashing your WIMAX radio can result in your EVO not being able to pick up a 4G signal.
I could be doing something wrong or perhaps I simply haven't yet found an easy fix. All I know is that I'm enjoying my rooted EVO. As for the lost 4G capabilities, I'm not digging that so much. If I'd been aware of the risk of ruining my WIMAX radio, then I probably would have done a bit more research (after days and days of the research that I'd already done) in order to avoid the issue.
I'm not the only person who's encountered the broken WIMAX issue. A number of people have complained about it and there doesn't appear to be any reliable fix.
My intent is not to scare you away from rooting your EVO. I only wish to serve as a cautionary tale.

yea id say a bigger issue is that there may be too many guides... 2 clicks to root, 1 click to root, etc... its a little redundant

djtoonjr said:
Ok. this is the second Evo i got. 2 days ago i got my first one. tried rooting it. got lost n eveyrthing. camera stopped working idk y, took it bak, swapped me to a new one. just got the new one today, running 2.2 obviously.
Now can someone post up exactly which ones i should do to root and can someone point me in the right direction to put the Cyanogenmod 6.1 experimental on?
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Also, you most likely have HW004. That is why your camera is NOT working after you flash any custom rom.
matthewdavisnelson said:
I purchased my EVO last week and finally found the courage to follow the thread "[TOOL][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02 S-OFF" (created by zikronix). By carefully reading the thread's instructions and all of the Q&A's that followed, I successfully rooted my phone with little difficulty. I would caution, however, that flashing your WIMAX radio can result in your EVO not being able to pick up a 4G signal.
I could be doing something wrong or perhaps I simply haven't yet found an easy fix. All I know is that I'm enjoying my rooted EVO. As for the lost 4G capabilities, I'm not digging that so much. If I'd been aware of the risk of ruining my WIMAX radio, then I probably would have done a bit more research (after days and days of the research that I'd already done) in order to avoid the issue.
I'm not the only person who's encountered the broken WIMAX issue. A number of people have complained about it and there doesn't appear to be any reliable fix.
My intent is not to scare you away from rooting your EVO. I only wish to serve as a cautionary tale.
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Rooting DOESN'T make your lose your RSA key.

DJ_Bizarro said:
yea id say a bigger issue is that there may be too many guides... 2 clicks to root, 1 click to root, etc... its a little redundant
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lol THANK YOU! one says intall HTC sync, other says uninstall it, one says use unrevoked 3.21, other says it doesnt work on 2.2. cmon yo. lol make a simple guide line like, (For New Evos(2.2))(Manually Root Process). if its automated, it either works on Win7 or Xp or Mac, or u just dont have Java Version or .net version. etc. i liked it when u just used CMD for eveyrthing. manually inputting the codes and stuff. dat seemd to never fail.
but on the other people who helped. thanks alot. i know too manyy guides get confusing, and if u recommened it, ill take it and give a wack at it. i have hardware version 003 btw to the other guy and never even got to root, neither the less flash a room lol.
thanks again!

okolowicz said:
As much as I can't stand the people who say, "Use the Search Tool!" and then brush you off, I've got to say that after reading your post I can somewhat sympathize with them.
Your question(s) have been answered ad nauseum across these boards and a very quick search could provide the resources you are looking for far quicker than it takes to write a post and wait for an answer. I'm sure you can imagine what these boards would look like if every one of the thousands of people with the same questions as you simply posted them as you did rather than searching and reading. As the single best source for all things android and possibly the largest, it would be 90% posts just like yours and 10% of everything else. It is simply impossible and unreasonable to expect anything different.
But, I digress...
In regards to rooting the EVO... Again, it would be redundant for me or anyone else for that matter to give you step by step instructions since the answers are freely and easily available in the "Android Development" section of the EVO subforum. That said, here are two great places to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496
The above two links will take you directly to the two threads representing the two different root methods. In sum, the top one is the easiest and the second one is more involved but the end result as far as the phone is concerned is identical. Lots of folks recommend the harder method simply because of the value in what you learn in the process. That said, between those two threads I think you will find all the answers you are looking for and more.
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This was the best possible response to this thread that anyone could have given.
i have hardware version 003 btw to the other guy and never even got to root, neither the less flash a room lol.
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The reason why there are multiple root guides is because they all came out at different times for different software versions. Sure there are a bunch for 2.2 but there have already been a couple updates since we got Froyo. You need to check your software version and use the root method that works for it. I'm not on a Sense ROM but I'm pretty sure the path to check is menu > settings > about phone > software information. Considering that you have a new 003 you are probably on 3.29.651.5 and if that's the case I recommend using the Unrevoked 3.21 method to root.

The reason why there are multiple root guides is because they all came out at different times for different software versions. Sure there are a bunch for 2.2 but there have already been a couple updates since we got Froyo. You need to check your software version and use the root method that works for it. I'm not on a Sense ROM but I'm pretty sure the path to check is menu > settings > about phone > software information. Considering that you have a new 003 you are probably on 3.29.651.5 and if that's the case I recommend using the Unrevoked 3.21 method to root.
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3.30.651.2 to be exact. anyone on this thread, if it dont work to root, or whatever, please lemme know.

should i root my phone?

i don't know whether i should root my phone because i am afraid of bricking it, but there are too much limitations with unrooted phone.

It's really up to you, it isn't that risky if you have enough knowledge to do everything exactly according to the guides.

Hawks556 said:
It's really up to you, it isn't that risky if you have enough knowledge to do everything exactly according to the guides.
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im not sure coz i updated my software directly from htc and idk can it be rooted without any probs. which guide do you recommend?

Tell us your build number. It is in settings-about-software information. Then ppl can tell you what to do next.
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In case you're not sure, you can check your build number through...
Setting >> About Phone >> Software Information.
=)

Stock rom Android 2.2.1
Build no.
1.84.707.2 CL335251 release-keys
Software no.
1.84.707.2

Then start from the Downgrade guide
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Erm, how? Please teach me step by step pls. I really know nothing.
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I do not need to teach you, I have written a detailed guide. Check it out.
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No offense, but you need a little knowledge to root and flash a custom rom. This isn't meant for the average user. It feels like everyone who gets an android phone nowadays (as it's becoming a more popular OS) want's to root and flash a custom rom as soon as they have in their hands without even knowing what it really means. The information to do all this is available here on this forum in form of guides which in most of the cases are quite extensive. If you want to root and flash a custom rom etc, you will have to do some reading on your own.
AFAIK this forum isn't here to hold the hands of android virgins as they try modify their phones without even knowing what a command prompt is. Almost every day someone new wants step by step instructions for this and for that even though there are good instructions out there. This forum is meant for people with some experience and knowledge that want to get the most out of our phones. New members are ofcourse welcome, but please, do some studying on your own too.

I was so scared to root my first phone last week. I sat for three hours reading guides over and over again to make sure I new what I was doing and I havent regretted doing it.

Too often I come across threads like this, if your not sure then you probably don't need to root, yet! If you decide to root read the stickies in the development thread, and don't say you havent got time to read a 100 page thread it'll be a lot quicker than fixing your DHD when it's buggered up

Hi ghostofcain
I hope you do not take offence to my reply.
ghostofcain said:
Too often I come across threads like this, if your not sure then you probably don't need to root, yet! If you decide to root read the stickies in the development thread, and don't say you havent got time to read a 100 page thread it'll be a lot quicker than fixing your DHD when it's buggered up
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I think you will find naomispoon has managed to ROOT the device.
naomispoon said:
I was so scared to root my first phone last week. I sat for three hours reading guides over and over again to make sure I new what I was doing and I havent regretted doing it.
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They say:- I havent regretted doing it.
Take Care
TheQuest

I DIDN'T need to downgrade first and simply followed the video on the bottom of this page.
(Youtube version)
I then simply installed CM7 rom via Rom Manager.
(I am rarely sick but I had been quite ill and in a lot of pain for a few days which was a shock to the system, and when I did get better, I had the mindset that nothing matters at all.) It's not easy for most folk to feel that way. Life is a game. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Unless you are unhappy or bored with Sense or the performance of your phone - there isn't too much reason to root in my opinion.

Hi Grant Barker
Grant Barker said:
I DIDN'T need to downgrade first and simply followed the video on the bottom of this page.
(Youtube version)
I then simply installed CM7 rom via Rom Manager.
(I am rarely sick but I had been quite ill and in a lot of pain for a few days which was a shock to the system, and when I did get better, I had the mindset that nothing matters at all.) It's not easy for most folk to feel that way. Life is a game. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Unless you are unhappy or bored with Sense or the performance of your phone - there isn't too much reason to root in my opinion.
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Really nice site you have, had a quick click, another & another, had to force myself stop clicking as I need to go to bed soon [4:30 here].
Bookmarked it, and will be back to it, many thanks.
Take Care
TheQuest

Best thing i ever did. I had a jailbroken iphone before i got my Desire HD so rooting was the first thing i looked at when i got my HD, getting rid of the branding was the main reason but then i realized how many Roms were out there and now its hard to choose which one to use :

@I'm TheQuest
I think ghostofcain was talking about the OP...

I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Grant Barker
Really nice site you have, had a quick click, another & another, had to force myself stop clicking as I need to go to bed soon [4:30 here].
Bookmarked it, and will be back to it, many thanks.
Take Care
TheQuest
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Thanks very much.

There's a lot of changes and benefits if you root your phone and install a custom ROM... First, there are a lot of custom ROMs, for any taste. MIUI imitate the iOS system, with the liberty of Android OS, for example, and RevoHD leave the original SENSE ROM, with improvements of course.
Then, custom ROMs have some interesting tweaks, like zipalign, the ads removing and a better management of the RAM.
To finish, I did it myself (running the MIUI ROM by Rey) and I have no regrets. After reading a few tutorials it was easy as ABC !
Like it was said before It's up to you, I dont intend to convince anyone, but If you wanna do it, go doing some searches. This forum has some tutorials, and anyone, even a noob can understand them.

jkoljo said:
I do not need to teach you, I have written a detailed guide. Check it out.
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hey there, i followed your guide but i keep failing. help pls.

[Q] general help

Ok, so I was one of the lucky few with a gen2 device that was not getting the ICS update. I tried to scan for the update probably 50 times yesterday with no luck. After seeing that others where having the same problem I got frustrated, I flashed the update Zeronull posted in the developers forums. Worked great.
My question is now what exactly is to be gained from the whole process of rooting/unlocking/loading CM9, and some custom roms. I am not new to hacking hardware/software, but I am fairly new to android so I don't really understand what I am gaining from the gamble.
My tab is mainly a family device so there is some added risk with my 4 year old, and wife having root access to my tab. Not sure that is a great idea or not. So once I decide if I want/need CM9 how secure is it from the rest of the family bricking it after the fact?
The only thing in the developers side that really catches my eye is cossix swap mod. I am surprised no one has rolled that into a rom yet. Anyways, if that is all I am really looking to gain is the CM9 path worth it for me?
Basically after re-reading this I am just fairly clueless about CM9. Can anyone with some experience clue a brother in? What is it exactly that I am missing?
Thanks,

I hate to bump my on post, but I was hoping to get a few opinions on this before I let it die.

EASY way to ROOT (JUST ROOT) Droid Incredible?

Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)

What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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tiny4579 said:
What is your HBOOT version? If it's 1.02 or higher that is the best way and only way I know of. Also in my opinion one click root methods teach you nothing and make troubleshooting difficult.
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No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.

Wallex said:
No interest in learning. HBOOT says 1.07.
Problem with guides like that: They aren't full guides, "i.e use adb devices to see if connected. If its not, install HTC Sync" guess what, HTC Sync didn't change a damn thing.
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Well, most people consider root a power, and with great power..... Anyways,this is a developer forum, aimed at developers. I don't have a problem teachinganyone anything (within the realm of my knowledge, of course), but I do have aproblem with those who want their hand held, and refuse to look on their own. Ican pretty much guarantee you, that if you don't learn anything, and wanteverything spelled out, that's all fine and dandy, till you have an issue. Orsomething else doesn't work right, and then you constantly ask questions on howto fix your phone when a little research and a little learning will preventmost of these issues in the first place.
kyphur said:
I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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/end rant.
Sorry about that. You're easiest bet is to use htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader, then flash a recovery through your now unlocked HBOOT, then flash aSuperuser.zip to gain root.

if you knew someone who could root it for you, that would be easiest. maybe you could pay someone to root your phone? you know what we say, only smart people now how to get stuff for free or cheap. and in the realm of 'hacking" what we are definitely doing is value adding to what we have.
but if you learn how to do it, you could be that person helping others!
btw, funny thing about that link-that is the one I used. i found it a little intimidating at first(and looked extensively for an easier way that I never found) but now that I;ve rooted 3 phones, its fairly accurate. unfortunately you do have to go through the steps. there aren;t any shortcuts but it works. and the good thing is that if anything actually goes wrong in the process, atleast you should know where and why and how to fix.

Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH
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You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....

insomniac_lemon said:
You could try Unrevoked (just search it). I have NO idea if it will work with your phone, as that can depend on a number of things. I guess just try some research on that. It's not like a 1-click root on your phone, but sort of like doing all of the ADB stuff from the manual way for you. I can't recall what actual version I used, but I know it installed CWMR and gave me S-Off, so I'm pretty sure I ran Unrevoked3 and/or Unrevoked Forever. You should be able to just use Unrevoked3 if you just want root.
Sorry I can't do more than point you in the right direction.... to give you any idea how long ago it was.... I decided to root because the Incredible was not getting FroYo..... hehe....
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FWIW, there was a version of Unrevoked that worked with certain versions of the Dinc's software (that's how I originally rooted my first Dinc), but recent OTA upgrades have made that method very unreliable. If you have HBOOT 1.07, there is no question that the best way to get root is using the guide, and yes, that guide the OP linked is a very good one. Follow it carefully and it will work, every time. You can even stop at step 3 and have a stock, rooted, s-on phone, without the complicated downgrade which is required to get s-off. Which is what the OP wanted, I believe.

Wallex said:
Hello all, I am looking for an EASY way to root the Incredible. There has to be a better way than this stupid "downgrade this, flash that" bull that I am seeing everywhere. Do any of the one click root methods work anymore? Or can someone give me a guide written in legible ENGLISH (I.E NOT THIS: http://androidforums.com/incredible...ot-unlock-downgrade-achieve-s-off-htcdev.html)
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LOL @ legible ENGLISH :good: Sometimes I feel the same way.
P.S. Broke out my old HTC INCRED 2. Think I may try rooting it. Got nothing to loose.
Keep the threads alive; -)